Linux-Misc Digest #612, Volume #24 Fri, 26 May 00 22:13:04 EDT
Contents:
secure ftp? (Janet)
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (Victor Wagner)
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (Victor Wagner)
xvfilemgr - help needed! (fourje)
Re: post dual boot win98 problems (Garry Knight)
proftpd - guest users ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Fvwm2 and Gnome/KDE ?!? (Lev Babiev)
Re: Motif release to Open Source Community leads to Open Motif Everywhere (Mike
Stump)
Re: sprintf bug? (Juergen Heinzl)
Re: democracy? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (JEDIDIAH)
Re: democracy? (Lisa Le Fou)
Re: 6 certifications in 30 Days and 15+ College Credits!!!
Please Help a Linux newbie... ("Michael Brailsford")
Re: 6 certifications in 30 Days and 15+ College Credits!!!
Re: Bash vs. Korn shell Problem (Larry Loreman)
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (Jonathan Abbey)
Re: RedHat 6.2 and X 'start' menu programs (Colin Holywel)
Re: 6 certifications in 30 Days and 15+ College Credits!!! (JEDIDIAH)
Re: Printer reccomendations? (Marc D Bumble)
getting an up to date distribution ("Simon Huang")
REQ: Sample sysv startup scripts (Geoff Stanbury)
RH Linux 6.2 and FAT32. ("Michael Brailsford")
Re: Please Help a Linux newbie... (Dances With Crows)
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From: Janet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: secure ftp?
Date: 26 May 2000 16:04:19 -0700
Hi,
I'm wondering if there's a reasonable way to do secure FTP in a
cross-platform sort of way. I am perfectly happy to scp things all the
time, but I can't do that from the Macs that I work with sometime (or is
there an SSH client for a Mac that will do such a thing)? Are there any
other ways to do secure file transfers?
Janet
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Victor Wagner)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: 26 May 2000 09:23:10 +0400
In comp.os.linux.misc David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Someone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
: ' blah, blah, blah, more hobbies for Computer Science geeks. I have several
: ' hobbies two of them are Digitally recording my band and another one is playing
: ' with Linux. And for me the question is: Pay big bucks for a multitrack cd
: ' pressing software for a Win box, Pay Bigger bucks for a Mac and App, or spend
: ' the rest of my life figuring out how string together linuxs text apps, TCL, and
: ' various X apps. I happen to be a musician and computer literate, but I only
: ' have so much time. I guess the though of his thread is lost. I was just trying
: ' to suggest a killer app that would bring hords of Linux users, sorry if I rained
: ' on your power outlet.
: I'm sorry if I didn't get your point. I am rather literal minded and
: miss irony rather frequently. Perhaps I need a metal detector.
: A good mixing app for Linux would be great. I suspect there are
: already such beasts in the works. I might have seen a mention on
: www.kde.org. I don't recall.
: Unfortunately, I am not a musician or recording engineer, so I don't
: have the stuff to test such an application, or the domain knowlege for
: designing a good user interface to such an application.
: Do you have any idea of what such an application should look like?
: What it's functions should be? I mean specifics, not hand waving. I
: really hate it when I deliver what is asked for and the client
: complains that it is not what he wanted.
I'm neither musician nor recording engineer too, but I have some
thoughts
1. The thing should have no look at all, so it would be possible to run
it on specially assembled applicances without monitor and keyboard, not
mention mouse
2. It should have simple stdin-controlled interface, like ispell -a,
so it would be easy to write various user UIs for it.
Start with ncurses one.
3. It should use big mlock-ed buffer like cdrecord does, so it would
record relaible on slow processors (for appliances again)
4. It should have ability to stop writing to the file automatically
if everything is silent, but still keep few seconds of sound in the
mentioned buffer, so if there would be something to record it would
start file few (configurable) seconds earlier first sound heard.
--
I won't mention any names, because I don't want to get sun4's into
trouble... :-) -- Larry Wall in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Victor Wagner)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: 26 May 2000 21:55:49 +0400
In comp.os.linux.misc JEDIDIAH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>I like the ability of rpm to NOT install older or matching versions
:>on top of what is running and to later tell me which files have been
:>modified or are missing compared to the installed packages.
:>
:>Also, configure scripts don't know how to satisfy dependencies when
:>you install several related things at once that must be done in a
:>certain order. Rpm gets this right if you install them all in one
:>command.
: No it doesn't. Infact that's one of the most annoying things
: about RPM. Given a collection of packages, it's unable to sort
: things out for itself.
Then why you all out there use RedHat deviatives?
When I've problems installing Linux on my notebook (due to flacky PCMCIA
net card) I've just thrown bunch of debs into would-be-/home partition
and type dpkg -i *
And this was in bare-bones base system where there was no contemporary
version of apt.
Not that Debian doesn't have some problems. Recently I've upgraded old
Debian 2.0 server to 2.1. And next day users have complained that
telnet and talk have disappeared - they was split out from netbase to
separate packages and I forget to install them. (and there was a reason
not to just run apt-get upgrade, but rather upgrade package by package).
Interesting that there was no such problem with X despite "Great X
reorganization" - it was well thought of.
--
Linux! Guerrilla UNIX Development Venimus, Vidimus, Dolavimus.
-- Mark A. Horton KA4YBR, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 00:37:26 +0100
From: fourje <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: xvfilemgr - help needed!
Is there anyone out there using this file manager. I'm having problems
with it.
Basically, when I try to change the properties, the properties panel
comes up, but I cannot execute any mouse-clicks against it. I tried
putting an empty .xvfmgrrc file out ther, but that caused a segmentation
fault.
I remember that an earlier version (back in '97) worked fine, but the
latest one I picked up has this problem.
THanks in advance
Dave E.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Garry Knight)
Subject: Re: post dual boot win98 problems
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 00:44:44 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>I`ve got win 98 and linux running on a maxtor 15 g hard drive.
>But windows is trying to read the linux boot partition as another drive and
>searches for minutes every time I open a program.
I had this, too. I used Ranish Partition Manager to go in and have a
look at my partitions (2 FAT32 on drive 1, 3 Linux + 1 Linux swap on
drive 2) and found that Mandrake's setup had created overlapping
partitions. I set the partitions up manually and haven't had any
problems since.
--
Garry Knight
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: proftpd - guest users
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 23:40:47 GMT
In proftpd 1.2.0
How can I limit certain users (not anonymous) from chdir to
higher level of their home directories?
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Lev Babiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fvwm2 and Gnome/KDE ?!?
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 20:16:36 -0400
"Fabio S." wrote:
>
> Does anybody know if fvwm2 (my favourite wm...;-) is Gnome and/or KDE
> compliant?
>
> If not, will it?
fvwm2 devel version is currently GNOME compliant, I'm not
sure about KDE.
grab fvwm 2.3.16 from ftp.fvwm.org (no, there's no link on
website to it)
and try it out. I've been running 2.3.x for about year now,
and it worked
like a charm. However, if you read mailing list archives
you'll see that
in authoer opinion it's not ready for prime time.
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Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Stump)
Subject: Re: Motif release to Open Source Community leads to Open Motif Everywhere
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 00:08:51 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Daniel S. Riley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>OS/390 UNIX system services are XPG4 UNIX 95 branded, so, from a
>particularly annoying legalistic trademark perspective, OS/390 is
>UNIX and Linux is not.
And this explains why certification and such is bad.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.alpha
Subject: Re: sprintf bug?
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 00:25:30 GMT
In article <8gmhrd$jqj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, U.V. Ravindra wrote:
>
>
>I'm using SuSE 6.3 (Kernel 2.2.13 glibc 2.1.2) on an Alpha EV67.
>Here's what I'm trying to do
>
> char buffr[4096+1]
>
> ...
> ...
> printf("before %s\n", buffr);
> sprintf(buffr, "0, 0, 0, ");
> printf("after %s\n", buffr);
>
>And I see the output:
>
>before dwki_nr_ibind(100, fname_var, 0,
>after 0, 0, 0,i
[...]
You call printf() passing some junk and then expect
reasonable behaviour afterwards ? Good luck.
[...]
Ta',
Juergen
--
\ Real name : J�rgen Heinzl \ no flames /
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: democracy?
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 01:34:41 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mark Wilden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Salvador Peralta wrote:
>>
>> let's remember that the United States is not now, nor has it ever been a
>> democracy.
>
> Yes it is. It's a representative democracy. The people do rule, through
> their elected officials (in theory, at least).
Isn't ignorance bliss? The only thing that counts in America is money.
Your politics are incredibly corrupt. Of course so is the politics of most
1st world countries. The third world is worse for sure. But the USA should
set an example and it fails woefully. It appears that in the USA you can
fool most of the people most of the time. Very sad.
With regard to the earlier comment, in a previous post, about the average person
being stupid, this is unfortunately true. They aren't born stupid but develop the
trait through crap educational systems and a life where thinking does them no
good at all. Who benefits from this. Institutional religion and big business.
Hmm, that desribes the USA perfectly.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 00:34:11 GMT
On 26 May 2000 21:55:49 +0400, Victor Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In comp.os.linux.misc JEDIDIAH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>:>I like the ability of rpm to NOT install older or matching versions
>:>on top of what is running and to later tell me which files have been
>:>modified or are missing compared to the installed packages.
>:>
>:>Also, configure scripts don't know how to satisfy dependencies when
>:>you install several related things at once that must be done in a
>:>certain order. Rpm gets this right if you install them all in one
>:>command.
>
>: No it doesn't. Infact that's one of the most annoying things
>: about RPM. Given a collection of packages, it's unable to sort
>: things out for itself.
>
>
>Then why you all out there use RedHat deviatives?
I never took to Debian or any of it's derivatives.
[deletia]
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Need sane PPP docs? Try penguin.lvcm.com.
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Subject: Re: democracy?
From: Lisa Le Fou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 17:52:09 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
Who benefits from this. Institutional religion and
big business.
>Hmm, that desribes the USA perfectly.
>
I seldom agree with the rightist pundit Arianna Huffington, but
she observes correctly that in the U.S. one's only real political
choices are the pro-choice corporate party and the prolife
corporate party. An observation that the country is run by
business and by religion is pretty well redundant. Churches own
huge commercial interests <see the Catholic or Mormon holdings)
to the point that donations are almost unnecessary. The churches
are themselves corporate giants, with the difference that they
are free of taxes.....
Lisa
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.certification.cisco,alt.certification.mcse,alt.certification.network-plus,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: 6 certifications in 30 Days and 15+ College Credits!!!
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 01:02:10 GMT
In article <wTuX4.129$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> Hello...
>
> I'd like to introduce a new concept in Certification Boot Camps. CMAdmin, Inc. is
>proud
> to announce the Certified Master Administrator program.
first, this is not a new concept.
this is called "an immersion program"
anyone who is successful at this type of learning will come away
with all of these certificates-- but in fluent German.
And any good German Engineer will tell you to ping the remote host
first and then the Router and *then* the loopback.
Academics and theory to the uninitiated is just that....theory.
The only people who would benifit from such a boot camp are those
that have already been in the field without certs.
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From: "Michael Brailsford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Please Help a Linux newbie...
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 06:55:58 -0600
My filesystem is currently FAT32. Can I install RH Linux 6.2? If I do will
it cause any problems with the existing FAT32 files? Also what is the best
way to set up a dual boot with Win98? I have heard of Lilo and a few
methods that involving changing the Autoexec.bat and Config.sys files.
Which approach is best? Which is easiest?
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.certification.cisco,alt.certification.mcse,alt.certification.network-plus,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: 6 certifications in 30 Days and 15+ College Credits!!!
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 01:04:55 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
> On Fri, 26 May 2000 15:23:26 GMT, "Tone"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >and how much do you still expect people to remember after the 31st day?
> >
> >
> I'd probably remember how much it cost me...:-))
>
> Tom
>
I'd remember the welts.
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From: Larry Loreman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.shell
Subject: Re: Bash vs. Korn shell Problem
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 21:20:24 -0400
> Under the Korn shell (AIX 4.3.2), the following does properly initialize the
> stated Wkdy Mon Day Time Zone Year variables from the date command:
> (from within a ksh script):
> date | read Wkdy Mon Day Time Zone Year
I ended up using a work around for this problem. Maybe not the best, but
it works.
#!/bin/bash -noprofile
TODAY=`date`
read Wkdy Mon Day Time Zone Year <<EOF
$TODAY
EOF
Larry Loreman
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan Abbey)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: 26 May 2000 20:26:26 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|
| consider a simple program. call it widget.
|
| it's got a man page and config. its executable is
|
| /usr/bin/widget
|
| /usr/man/man1/widget
|
| /etc/widget.cf
|
| notice how the files are scattered all over the filesystem. if the
| names are strange or it installs more files, it can get messy fast. i
I would consider a software package that depended on such scattering
to be broken.
| don't mind them being all over the place, i just want a record of
| this. the make install should create a log of what got installed
| where. then i could copy this file somewhere and keep track of the
| whole widget package. i wish this were a standard feature of people's
| makefiles.
That would be nice, obviously, but the previous poster was correct
when he said that the real answer here is for UNIX software to be
packaged with support for a '--prefix=' type option. That lets you
use stuff like opt_depot/STOW/depot/STORE/encap/LUDE/etc.
| i'm not looking for any magic bullets to rescue a broken filesystem, i
| just want a little help keeping tracking of what went where.
Unfortunately, creation of an installation list has never been a
common thing to do in UNIX software packaging. You're probably going
to be better off using the mechanism that is there (--prefix), or just
biting the bullet and going with something like RPM or the Debian
Package format which will track everything for you in said database.
| --
| J o h a n K u l l s t a m
| [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| Don't Fear the Penguin!
--
===============================================================================
Jonathan Abbey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Applied Research Laboratories The University of Texas at Austin
Ganymede, a GPL'ed metadirectory for UNIX http://www.arlut.utexas.edu/gash2
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From: Colin Holywel <holywellcolin*REMOVE-TO-REPLY*@graffiti.net>
Subject: Re: RedHat 6.2 and X 'start' menu programs
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 01:42:07 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chris
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have recently installed Red Hat 6.2 and the Gnome desktop on a
> computer. I was wondering how to not allow new users to use certain
> apps that are available. Specifically, I want to not allow the use of
> games to certain users. I could track them down and change
> permissions, but I don't even want them to see the game are there. Is
> there a way to change the 'start' mene programs? Thanks Chris
>
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com http://www.help.com/
You could hide the menus from users by taking them all off, then just putting the
certain apps into the "Personal Menu" of certain users. This would let them only see
the apps you want to.
To prevent them from being run would be done by setting permissions and groups.
i.e. To allow only certain users to run games just make all the games part of
the group "Games". Then make the user part of the supplemental group "Games".
The user editor in Linuxconf is easiest to use to do this.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
Crossposted-To:
alt.certification.cisco,alt.certification.mcse,alt.certification.network-plus,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: 6 certifications in 30 Days and 15+ College Credits!!!
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 01:53:08 GMT
On Fri, 26 May 2000 22:58:23 GMT, Tom MacIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Fri, 26 May 2000 20:28:03 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bernie) wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 26 May 2000 18:59:11 GMT, "Harold S. Frydman"
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>Don't let people fool you. THIS is NOT brain surgery. There are lots of
>>>people out there that will tell you all that counts is Real-World
>>>experience...and they wouldn't be wrong...but they wouldn't be 100% right
>>>either.
>>
>>True. Lets talk on the same terms though. Forget the certification
>>aspect for a moment, because it is really the knowledge we are talking
>>about here, right. IOW, a cert without experince, distills down into
>>knowledge at *best*. How much knowledge can be learned in a month?
>>Well, studies show that a 30-35% retention rate of classroom learning
>>is about average. So how much is learned in 30-35% of a 30 day
>>bootcamp? I think anybody that has been through intense training
>>knows that their mind can only handle so much at a time before going
>>into overload.
>>
>>Sure experience without any knowledge is not very good either.
>
>Just a quibble, and really reaching, but I don't think it's very easy
>for this to happen...experience without knowledge. I'd hope it would
>be an oddity.
I'm aware of examples where experience has managed to
overcome both lack of interest, lack of talent and
lack of a grasp of the basic mindset one would expect
to be necessary for the profession.
[deletia]
--
In what language does 'open' mean 'execute the evil contents of' |||
a document? --Les Mikesell / | \
Need sane PPP docs? Try penguin.lvcm.com.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Printer reccomendations?
From: Marc D Bumble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 26 May 2000 21:57:21 -0400
If black + white is okay, I really like my HP LaserJet 6L. Its a
Laser Printer and its very cute and prints very nicely for personal
use. Under RH 6.2, if you are not familiar with it, use "printtool"
to help set up the printer.
In the old days the Ink Jet ink used to run if hit by water. Is that
still the case?
marc
>>>>> "Nick" == Nick Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Nick> I'm looking to buy a printer to use with my linux box
Nick> running Red Hat 6.2. I really don't have any experience with
Nick> Linux printing. All I really want is a decent color printer
Nick> that will be easy to setup and use with Linux. Cost is a
Nick> major concern. I can't spend much more than $200, and if I
Nick> can spend less that's even better. Which brands and/or
Nick> models should I be looking at?
Nick> thanks in advance
Nick> Nick
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From: "Simon Huang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: getting an up to date distribution
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 18:58:31 -0700
hi, can anyone suggest me how to get an up to date linux distribution
(redhat, debian, or slackware), that is, one has XFree86 4.0, etc. i have
access to a cd burner and would like to have an iso. thank you very much
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Geoff Stanbury)
Subject: REQ: Sample sysv startup scripts
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 02:04:14 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi. I'm running Slackware 7, which uses BSD-style startup scripts,
but I've been messing around with http://www.linuxfromscratch.org
which uses sysv scripts. I'm having some problems, so I was wondering
if anybody could post or email some of their startup scripts as
samples to help me get a better idea of what's supposed to be going on
during system startup.
Although I'd appreciate anything that anybody could offer, I'm most
insterested in mountfs and sysklogd. Any related information that you
think would be helpful would be fabulous, too.
Thanks in advance.
--Geoff
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From: "Michael Brailsford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RH Linux 6.2 and FAT32.
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 07:44:05 -0600
Are there any problems installing RH 6.2 on a FAT32 system? I've read the
kernal 2.2 and higher can read understand FAT32, but RedHat.com said the
make sure that you are not using FAT32. Is RedHat.com just behind the
times, or can RH 6.2 just not support FAT32?
Thanks,
Michael
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Please Help a Linux newbie...
Date: 26 May 2000 22:04:51 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 26 May 2000 06:55:58 -0600, Michael Brailsford
<<8gn6e2$e3v$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>My filesystem is currently FAT32. Can I install RH Linux 6.2?
Sure.
0. Make a bootable DOS disk containing the FIPS20.EXE program you'll find
on the RedHat CD.
1. defrag the FAT32 filesystem using DEFRAG.EXE
2. Boot from DOS disk, run FIPS20 and pay attention to what it says!
3. Shrink FAT32 partition. RedHat's installer is somewhat braindead, so
the first FAT32 partition must be < 8G so there's room below cylinder 1024
for /boot.
4. Boot from RedHat CD. Install. Make sure you create a /boot partition
that's under the 1024-cylinder limit. Don't delete or mess with the first
FAT32 partition on the disk.
If you were looking for a distribution like PhatLinux or WinLinux 2000 or
ZipSlack that does not require partitioning the hard drive, RedHat is not
it. Besides, those UMSDOS/loopback things have sub-par disk performance
and you'll be unhappy with that.
>Also what is the best
>way to set up a dual boot with Win98? I have heard of Lilo and a few
>methods that involving changing the Autoexec.bat and Config.sys files.
>Which approach is best? Which is easiest?
That depends. Generally, you partition the drive kind of like so,
assuming you have a large drive:
/dev/hda1 7.5G FAT32 C:
/dev/hda2 10M ext2 /boot
/dev/hda3 <extended partition>
/dev/hda5 ?? FAT32 D: (if you want more FAT32 space)
/dev/hda6 ?? ext2 /
/dev/hda7 128M swap swap
Then you put LILO in the bootsector of /dev/hda2 and use fdisk to set
/dev/hda2 as the active partition. LILO can boot Lose9x no problem, and
since you didn't mess with the MBR, it's a bit easier to recover if you
decide you don't like Linux.
LOADLIN is generally used if you can't have a /boot partition within the
first 8G of the disk. It is somewhat dangerous in that your kernel image
gets kept on a FAT partition, where it might get stomped on unless you set
its attributes to "hidden", "system", and "read-only".
RH 6.2's installer doesn't really give you the option of using LOADLIN, or
at least I didn't see that option when I tried 6.2. Now that the latest
version of LILO can boot a kernel that's anywhere on the disk, it will be
possible to install a Linux system on, say, the last 5G of a 40G drive and
not have any hassles... as soon as the distro manufacturers release their
latest versions.
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| You have me mixed up with more
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| creative ways of being stupid?
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Beer is a vegetable. WinNT
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| is the study of cool. --MegaHAL
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