Linux-Misc Digest #745, Volume #21               Fri, 10 Sep 99 01:13:13 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Removing a package from linux? (Michel Catudal)
  Re: I broke my system! (again) ("Dale")
  Can't get FTP service to accept connections ("Tom Baldridge")
  Re: amount of modems in linux... (Michel Catudal)
  Re: Help!  I screwed up fstab kernel panics ("Tom Baldridge")
  Re: I WANT TO DITCH WINDOZE BUT I CANT!!! (Michel Catudal)
  Driver for ETHERNET cards ("John Silver")
  Re: URGENT - tar question (Robert Nichols)
  Re: Recommendation for Color Printer? (Rowin Warin Andruscavage)
  Re: Why dows Netscape say "no DNS for mail/news" ? (Andrew Purugganan)
  Re: Real Player won't work under 2.2.x kernels (Michel Catudal)
  Need some basic networking advise (Warren Bell)
  Re: xfs on Redhat 6.0 ("Roch Plamondon")
  zImage ("Stephan")
  Re: What's an *.elc file (Allin Cottrell)
  Re: I broke my system! (again) (Coy A Hile)
  Re: Apache ~ user directories? (Allin Cottrell)
  Re: CLOCK adjustment under Linux ("Ricardo Wagner")
  Re: RedHat ; Enlightenment Problem (Steve Weiss)
  Re: From woe to go... help (Byron Miller)
  Re: xfs on Redhat 6.0 ("R.K.Aa")
  Re: Windows on SECONDARY Master [hdc]? ("Deimos")
  Re: [Q] hp printer problem ("Colin R. Day")
  Re: build gnu ... (Byron Miller)
  Re: zImage ("Daniel P. Gelinske")
  Re: Sound help needed ("J. Escalante")
  Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie (Darren Winsper)
  Re: help w/mail... ("Daniel P. Gelinske")

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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Removing a package from linux?
Date: 9 Sep 1999 21:20:17 -0500

Brad Powell wrote:
> 
> This might be in the FAQ, but I can't find the FAQ :-(
> I know its supposed to be posted to comp.os.linux.misc, so don't
> bother pointing me there. :-)
> 
> How do I remove a software package (specifically applix) and all of
> the links/menu items?
> 
> Is there a utility or at least a listing of all associated files?
> 
> TIA,

Which version?

With SuSE just run yast.

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From: "Dale" <dlackie1*nospam*@maine.rr.com>
Subject: Re: I broke my system! (again)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 21:34:45 -0400

Dom,

Ever put any thought into buying a tape backup for your system?

No, I am not trying to be a wise-ass.

If you had the entire drive backed up, you would be able to mangle any file
you felt like, and (if the unmangling did not go well) EASILY restore the
whole thing in a few minutes.

Dale
RH 6.0/W98 Dual Boot



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From: "Tom Baldridge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Can't get FTP service to accept connections
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 21:03:02 -0400

When I try to ftp into my Linux  server from a win98 client, I get a
"connection failed" message. I am able to telnet to the server.  Can anybody
help?

Thanks,

Tom Baldridge



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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: amount of modems in linux...
Date: 9 Sep 1999 21:35:06 -0500

"Duy D." wrote:
> 
> I also have 2 modems, but no problem what so ever under RH6 and Mandrake 6.
> External 56K motorola + 56K LT winmodem.
> 

Correction! You have 1 modem and 1 winmodem

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From: "Tom Baldridge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Help!  I screwed up fstab kernel panics
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 22:37:23 -0400

Thanks to all who helped.  I got it working again.

Tom

Tom Baldridge wrote in message <7qskrh$bv5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Help!
>
>The message says it all.  I tried to reduce the size of an empty primary
DOS <snip>




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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: I WANT TO DITCH WINDOZE BUT I CANT!!!
Date: 9 Sep 1999 21:23:05 -0500

Leonard Evens wrote:
> 
> >  * A good Java IDE (Visual Cafe Pro or VisualAge for Java are among my
> > favs)
> >  * Visio Professional
> >  * Adobe Illustrator
> 
> I don't know about these but I would not be surprised if there were
> good Linux substitutes for some of them.
> 

No need for a substitute for Visual Age for Java, just use Visual Age for Java for 
Linux.

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From: "John Silver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.m68k,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Driver for ETHERNET cards
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 21:35:47 -0500

Hello,
Does somebody have:
"LINKSYS EtherFast 10/100 LAN Card" Ethernet card
or
"Realtek RTL8029(AS)" Ethernet card
with Red Hat Linux 6.0?

What drivers and what parameters should be installed for them?

You can find this information by running "netcfg" from an xterm window.
Then hit "Interfaces" button at the top of the window. You will see the list
of interfaces that installed on your computer.
If you select an interface and click the "Edit" button, the new window will
pop up with the information about this interface.
Push the "Quit" button on all windows, to be sure do not change anything.

Thank you for your help.






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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Nichols)
Subject: Re: URGENT - tar question
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 01:11:39 GMT

Note: E-mailed *and* posted.


In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Stephen Waite  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:
:There were many tar files on a scsi tape, however a small tar file was
:written over the beginning of the tape thus corrupting a large tar file
:that should have been the first tar file on the tape.  I do not need to
:recover this large tar  file but I would like to have access to the rest
:of the tar files on the tape.

The answer to that depends on the type of tape drive.  When a QIC-150 or
similar drive is writing on track 0 it activates the full width erase
head.  Any data on other tracks in that portion of the tape will be
unrecoverable except by very sophisticated techniques (used by 3-letter
government agencies and the like).  Many other drives will flat out
refuse to read beyond what is now the end of data on the tape, i.e. the
end of that short 'tar' file.  The only way around that is to further
corrupt the tape so that the EOD marker is destroyed.  The steps to
accomplish this are:

 1. Seek to the current end of data: "mt -f /dev/nst0 seek eod"

 2. Begin writing on the tape: "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/nst0"

 3. After the tape drive begins writing, KILL THE POWER.  If you've got
    a machine with no manual power switch you'll have to do this by
    yanking the plug, but you've got to stop the operation without
    giving the drive a chance to mark the end of data.

With a bit of luck (it almost always works) you'll now be able to read
the remainder of the tape.

The danger is obvious -- you're writing on the tape that contains your
precious data.  I wouldn't recommend trying this until you've posted
again with the details about your tape drive to find out whether the
technique is at all appropriate.

-- 
Bob Nichols         [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PGP public key 1024/9A9C7955
Key fingerprint = 2F E5 82 F8 5D 06 A2 59  20 65 44 68 87 EC A7 D7

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From: Rowin Warin Andruscavage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Recommendation for Color Printer?
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 21:12:26 -0400

        If you decide to go for an Epson Stylus Color 400, 600, 800, or the
like, check out the following sites, you'll find them indispensible.

http://eunuchs.org/epson/index.html
http://www.u.arizona.edu/~zdw/uniprint.html

        As far as quality goes, the Epson printers do great color, the HP's do
great B&W printing, so make your choice accordingly.  The Epson print
heads aren't easily replacible and seem to dry up really easily,
however, so make sure you use it at least a few times a month so it
doesn't become a paperweight like mine :(

-- 
<8X- Rowin Andruscavage  http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/rwa2
Scientists are people who build the Brooklyn Bridge and then buy it.
                -- William Buckley

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Re: Why dows Netscape say "no DNS for mail/news" ?
Date: 10 Sep 1999 02:33:11 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

: Netscape claims it can't find my news and mail servers.

: It was working for news until I added a new user.  Never worked for mail.

: It claims "invalid server" or "can't fine server news" (can't remember the exact
: wording).  It says there is no DNS entry for these but nothing has changed
: except the addition of a user and mail has always had this problem.

What server is defined for Mail and news when you click on 
Netscape-Edit-Preferences-mailAndNews-servers? 
Your ISP should give you these names (you're not the ISP are you :-)
--
Andy Purugganan 
annandy AT dc DOT seflin DOT org
apurugganan AT amadeuslink DOT com



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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Real Player won't work under 2.2.x kernels
Date: 9 Sep 1999 21:30:23 -0500

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
==============BBF061757F3F7B47763B164A
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>  Hi,
>  I have found that the real media player won't work right under the sound
> driver included with the 2.2.x kernels.  Less than one second of sound
> will play and then a general error message will pop up.
> Has anyone else had this problem? If so, were you able to solve it?
> 

That problem has been solved long ago. Run this script in the same directory
as the binary is. Better yet download G2, you will find a link on my website.


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==============BBF061757F3F7B47763B164A
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii;
 name="fixRv"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline;
 filename="fixRv"

dd if=/dev/zero of=rvplayer bs=1 count=1 seek=657586 conv=notrunc
dd if=/dev/zero of=rvplayer bs=1 count=1 seek=665986 conv=notrunc

==============BBF061757F3F7B47763B164A==


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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 20:11:43 +0000
From: Warren Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Need some basic networking advise

I want to connect two linux boxes, network them together.  What I want
to do is have machine1 connected to the net 24/7 with a modem.  Then
machine2, with no modem, connected through machine1 to access the net. 
Machine1 will be running a web server also.

I asked part of this question before and someone suggested IP
masquerading.  Are there any step-by-step instructions on how to set
this up?

Also, I need to know what hardware.  This will be a home network so I
don't need anything too fancy or expensive.  Just somthing that will
work reliably.  I don't know anything about networking and have heard of
10baseT, ethernet.  What should I get.  And do I need to set up any
special service on the machines to be started up at boot time?

I'm using Mandrake 6.0 on both machines.

Any help is appreciated,
Warren Bell

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From: "Roch Plamondon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: xfs on Redhat 6.0
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 01:27:49 GMT

Made what you said on  your web site under alternative one no
Nothing changed same problems with Netscape

--
Roch Plamondon

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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From: "Stephan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: zImage
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 11:10:51 +0800

Hi All,
    Would appreciated if anyone can tell me how to make zImage and
first.hdimage.

Regards,.......
Stephan,.........



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From: Allin Cottrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What's an *.elc file
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 22:49:43 -0400

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I recently purchased Caldera's OpenLinux 2.2 (32 days before the
> release of 2.3...arg!), and after installation, I discovered about 500
> *.elc files -- some in the xemacs/lisp directory,

That's certainly where one would expect to find them.

>  but there were
> others scattered throughout the hard drive.

That's odd.

elc files are byte-compiled versions of regular emacs-lisp (.el)
files.  The compiled versions load faster.  If you don't plan
to do any lisp hacking you can save a bit of space by deleting
the .el files for which there are corresponding .elc ones.

-- 
Allin Cottrell
Department of Economics
Wake Forest University, NC

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Coy A Hile)
Subject: Re: I broke my system! (again)
Date: 9 Sep 1999 23:39:06 -0400

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Allin Cottrell  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Dominic Hargreaves wrote:
>
>
>Red Hat has used such extreme salami tactics on the whole
>"rc" apparatus that there's no way a human being could repair
>a damaged system.  If you want to be able to hand-hack the rc
>scripts then use Slackware.

or you could do like i did and get rid of redhat's rc scripts and replace
them with equivalently-functioning slackware scripts.  redhat's init scripts
are even more messed up than a genuine sysv init (on which it is based).

BSD-style init scripts are better any day of the week, though.

Coy

-- 
Coy Hile
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Theirs not to reason why; theirs but to do...."
Tennyson, "Charge of the Light Brigade"

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From: Allin Cottrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Apache ~ user directories?
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 22:59:14 -0400

Gina wrote:

> What's the term for having user directory web pages. I'd like to enable this
> on my httpd Apache server (under linux). Ie:
> http://www.binarycity.net/~tgreen/

"locate httpd.conf"
"grep public-html httpd.conf"

change "public-html" (if you wish) to some other name,
corresponding to the sub-directory of /home/tgreen that you
want to be made available over the web.

-- 
Allin Cottrell
Department of Economics
Wake Forest University, NC

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From: "Ricardo Wagner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CLOCK adjustment under Linux
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 22:10:13 -0500

Tks.. would you know why it does not work under RH 6.0?? no matter what
permissions are applied I get #no such file or directory"  even rdate is
there. The command is run from the command line for testing.

Thanks
Stuart Summerville <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Thu, 9 Sep 1999 07:57:44 -0500, "Ricardo Wagner"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Does anyone use,or knows about an accurate time sync using NTP in an easy
> >way such as the tinny socket watch in the M$ world?
>
>
> add a cron job on the command:
>
> rdate -s <ntp server address>
>
> if you want it to update your hardware clock, also issue the command:
>
> hwclock --systohc
>
> Works for Redhat V5.2.
>
> Stu.
> ----------------------------------------------
> Stuart Summerville
> Home: stus@<nospam>netspace.net.au
> Work: stuart.summerville@<nospam>icpdd.neca.nec.com.au
> ----------------------------------------------



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From: Steve Weiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RedHat ; Enlightenment Problem
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 23:37:29 -0400

I've had this happen to me once or twice after crashes, the easiest way
to get it back (although you will lose any custom settings you made) is
to remove all the .gnome<something> directories that are in your home
directory. When you log back in, you'll get the standard
Gnome/Enlightenment desktop again.

-Steve

"Robert J. Schweikert" wrote:
> 
> Andy are you sure that you are starting in the correct run level, should be
> 5?
> 
> When you boot Linux it tells you something like entering run level 5. Don't
> ask me where to set this, I don't know of hand and I lend my
> book to someone and haven't seen it in 4 weeks.
> 
> Good luck.
> Robert
> 
> Andy Somerville wrote:
> 
> > Help - I must have been fiddling because all my desktop settings have
> > disappeared. I can login but there are no icons or stuff.
> > My KDE and console are fine.
> > Can anyone offer any clues as to how I can restore Gnome/Enlightenment ?
> > Thanks for any help.
> > Andy
> 
> --
> Robert Schweikert
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-- 
"If you watch TV news, you know less about the world than if you just
drank
gin straight from the bottle."  - Garrison Keillor

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From: Byron Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: From woe to go... help
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 23:40:38 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.setup

On Thu, 9 Sep 1999 10:11:23 +1000, "Matt Anderson" <fuckoff> wrote:

>Ok,  I'm not entirely new to Linux, but I would like someone who has done
>this before to maybe just outline some steps for me.  I haven't had to
>actually set up the config that is needed in this situation before and want
>to make sure I don't overlook anything.
>
>Don't really need specifics, just an outline on how to go from a clean Linux
>install, including Apache, Bind and Ipchains.  I have an ISDN line going
>into a Router going into a Linux PC with two NIC's.  What various daemons
>and services do I need to configure so that a Win95/NT LAN can talk to the
>Internet thru the Linux box, and so that we can host our own e-mail, FTP and
>website.  Also want the box to act as a primary DNS and firewall.
>
>Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>Matt
>


Not to be rude or anything, but there are masquariding readme files
available on many websites.  

And this really ins't the place for such a general hand walking
question.  A consultant would be wise, so your linux solution would
work if your depending on it for service or business.

http://www.linuxlinks.com has alot of the faqs,
http://www.linuxstart.com is also a good site to find the information.
Otherwise, all programs usually have man pages and websites with
documentation.


-byron

Byron Miller Consulting | http://www.reliabilityfactor.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Voice: (717) 397-7020
Unix, Linux, Network and System Consulting

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From: "R.K.Aa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: xfs on Redhat 6.0
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 03:41:17 GMT

Yes, that is possible. Add the fontpath to the tt fonts as the LAST
fontpath entry there.
xfs will search fontpaths successivly and the vital "fixed" font should
be found first.
If you keep the tt fonts on another partition than the other fonts (for
instance a mountable volume) you - at least theoreticaly - risk that it
isn't mounted readable before xfs is initiated.
In which case you'll of course get a problem (not only in Netscape
though).

Do report back if changing the order helps - I'll stress that point on
the webpage if so.

K.

Roch Plamondon wrote:
> 
> Is it possible that the only problem is the order in which directories
> appear in xfsconf file ?
> 

--
Step by step guide to TrueType fonts under RedHat6:
http://home.powertech.no/rkaa/Linux_and_tv.html#ttf

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From: "Deimos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows on SECONDARY Master [hdc]?
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 22:18:25 -0500

I currently have 98 loaded on hdb (primary slave) and RedHat 6.0 on hda.  I
installed 98 by itself, then physically moved the drive (first to hdc and
then later to hdb).  I then told Linux (LILO) to load RedHat first unless
instructed otherwise.  98 boots with no problem in either location.



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From: "Colin R. Day" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Q] hp printer problem
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 03:31:37 +0000

Suhng ByuhngMunn wrote:

> I have connect hp 710c printer to the /dev/lp0.
>
> And, I have executed a command like below:
>
>   # cp test.txt /dev/lp0

try cat test.txt > /dev/lp0 or just lpr test.txt


>
>
> But, the printer does not print anything.
>
> In the kernel, the lp0 is detected.
>
> How can I solve this problem?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> sbmoon.

--
Colin R. Day    [EMAIL PROTECTED]     alt.atheist #1500




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From: Byron Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: build gnu ...
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 23:49:01 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup

On Thu, 09 Sep 1999 15:22:45 +0200, Sven Huster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>hi there,
>
>i want to build all gnu tools, utils, apps, libs from the scratch.
>
>does anybody knows about dependencies of the packages?
>
>which one to build first, because its needed by others.
>
>i the a doc about this?

You will need some kind of unix system to build the libraries in the
first place,  so that should answer you.  Once you have a working
system, you simply untar the sources, and usually run ./configure or
something similar which automagically finds the dependencies and
alerts you of anything.




-byron

Byron Miller Consulting | http://www.reliabilityfactor.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Voice: (717) 397-7020
Unix, Linux, Network and System Consulting

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From: "Daniel P. Gelinske" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: zImage
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 21:25:54 -0700

Stephan wrote:

> Hi All,
>     Would appreciated if anyone can tell me how to make zImage and
> first.hdimage.
>
> Regards,.......
> Stephan,.........

Installing a new kernel in a nutshell:

When you get a new kernel, and you untar the tar archive, you go into
the linux directory it made (/usr/src/linux or something like
/usr/src/linux-2.2.xx) and you type 'make menuconfig'  You go through
the menu, see what you want your kernel to support, and make heavy use
of the "help" option, and when you got what you want you are done with
that step.  You exit menuconfig, and then you do a 'make dep'  after
that is done, you can 'make zImage' and the zImage file will appear in
the /usr/src/linux*/arch/i386/boot directory.  Then you can set it into
the /boot directory (if your old kernel is also called zImage, you will
want to move it to a new filename, ie zImage-2.2.2 for kernel version
2.2.2)  If your kernel is too big, you will want to "make bzImage"
instead.  If the "make zImage" dont work because the kernel is too big,
you can type "make bzImage" and it will compile fine.

And remember... if your kernel has a different name than the old kernel,
you will want
to edit lilo.conf to make it point to the new kernel.  After doing that
run /sbin/lilo as root.

I dont know anything about first.hdimage, but I hope that I was of some
help to you.

Dan


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From: "J. Escalante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware,alt.linux.slakware,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Sound help needed
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 23:22:11 -0400

I am coming form the DOS/WIN world as such I found myself lost with all the new
terminology that comes in the real world; which is what Linux/UNIX is all about.
How do use lsmod to tell me whether the module is been used?
As to whether I set up the pnpdump & the isapnp, well... all I've done is recompile the
kernel and select the choice for the  card that that emulates SB /16.

I know we newbies can be a bit annoying due to our ignorance regarding Linux, but 
please
bear with me and try to give me an extra hand, I really need it.

Thanks Glenn
Glenn Meuth wrote:

> Well, lsmod will tell you if the module is in use . . . but I can't be much help from
> there.  I assume you have already set up the card with pnpdump & isapnp . . .
> Glenn
>
> "J. Escalante" wrote:
>
> > Cooper wrote:
> >
> > > JERE WAMBLE wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  I have a pnp ess 1869  card and I  have had no seccess in getting it to
> > > > work. However, I do seem to have made one small  step on the road. I
> > > > don't know  exactly how I did it, but I recompiled and when I boot up i
> > > > see something to the effect
> > > > ESS003  ess1869 card at Blah-blah location is ok.
> > > > also, some other line that says the card is ok.
> > > >
> > > > However, I don't have any luck past there. When I check /dev/audio, I
> > > > see the file there, but when I try to cat a file to it , I get the
> > > > message
> > > > "/dev/audio-no such device"
> > > > I suppose this might be the problem, but not sure if it is the one, or
> > > > the only one. I don't know what to do from here. I am not familiar wit
> > > > the MAKDEV, or whatever, or even if I need to use it since the file is
> > > > there, but not initialized.
> > > > If someone could help, I would really appreciate it. It would sure help
> > > > get further away from Windows. I have Slackware 4.0, with KDE. I have
> > > > had sound working on another computer with Slackware 3.6, but no luck
> > > > here. I do NOT really understand isapnp, but my tinkering around with it
> > > > might be okay since I see the messages above on bootup.
> > >
> > > The line about card blah blah ok looks like it indeed came from isapnp
> > > meaning that your PnP card got initialised.
> > > The thing about PnP devices is that support for them *MUST* be compiled
> > > as a module. If you don't do it the kernel gets started first, along
> > > with the support for the card which will fail because the card wasn't
> > > initialised yet (which is what isapnp does). Isapnp can't start until
> > > the kernel starts the rc.* files.
> > > What you need to do is add lines to your /etc/conf.modules that
> > > specifies the settings of your sound device.
> > > Look in the Documentation subdir of the Linux sources for hints on that.
> > > I don't have your card so I can't help you much further with this, but
> > > this should at least point you in the right direction.
> > >
> > > Oh, one more thing. The 'files' in /dev (they're devices!) aren't there
> > > for what's in your system, but for what Linux would allow in your
> > > system. And with that I mean Linux in general. Your kernel compilation
> > > will typically exclude certain devices. That the device node is there
> > > doesn't mean that there's actually a device behind it or that support
> > > for it has been compiled into the kernel.
> > >
> > > Test if your soundcard had been found by the system with 'cat
> > > /dev/sndstat'.
> > >
> > > Cooper
> > > ---
> > > Quake 3 made me do it!
> >
> > I have a similar problem, only that I have a Audio Excel that emulates SB16.
> > At the time I compiled the kernel, I specified that the card I had was one
> > that emulates SoundBlaster 16/32/etc. My question is, how can determine
> > whether the sound card module has been installed and if it is the wrong
> > module trouble shoot it?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Darren Winsper)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
Date: 9 Sep 1999 19:08:53 GMT

On Thu, 9 Sep 1999 08:08:08 -0700, K. Bjarnason
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You say this as though it is hard to selectively install the pieces
> > of a Linux program.  
> 
> Nope; just giving an example of the MS approach.  Linux *may* do this as 
> easily, I'm not sure.  What I wonder, though, is if *LINUX* does ti this 
> easily, or if *Debian* does it this easily - note the difference.

Linux is just a kernel.  Generally, when one talks about Linux, they
mean distros in general.  In terms of package management, each on
handles things differently.  SuSE, for one thing, is capable of
handling dependancies itself if you're installing things from CD.

-- 
Darren Winsper - http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/darren.winsper

Stellar Legacy project member - http://www.stellarlegacy.tsx.org

Java leads to Javascript.  Javascript leads to Shockwave.  Shockwave leads
to . . . suffering.

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From: "Daniel P. Gelinske" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: help w/mail...
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 21:08:30 -0700

Big Daddy wrote:

> Hi, all; I wanna set up a lil' e-mail on my machine.  I can send fine, but
> I can only receive mail locally on that machine... anyone provide any
> help?  thx...
>
> --
> Big Daddy
>
> The law will never make men free; it is men who have got to make the
> law free.
>
>                 -- Henry David Thoreau

I could use a little help with the same thing, however my problem is
reversed... I can receive email fine, but I cant send it...

Dan


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