Linux-Misc Digest #810, Volume #21 Tue, 14 Sep 99 16:13:14 EDT
Contents:
Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie (Tom Dominico, Jr.)
aumix -- how do I adjust the balance? (Eric Wyles)
Re: Windows 98 and Caldera Open Linux Help !!!!!
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Are tar tapes OS dependent? (Leslie Mikesell)
Deleting WinNT (Akasi)
Internet Explorer ("Jody Thigpen")
Re: Kernel won't change! Please please help ("Philipp Leser")
Re: Are tar tapes OS dependent? (Bernd Braun)
Re: Favorite Editor? (Raoul Markus)
Re: Are tar tapes OS dependent? (Robert Heller)
Re: Are tar tapes OS dependent? (Leslie Mikesell)
ATG's dynamo for linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie (Todd Knarr)
Samba: smbclient command to use printer on NT? (David Steuber)
Re: Favorite Editor? (tony summerfelt)
Re: How to change /dev/cdrom definition? (Brandon)
Pico (Lee Mcintyre)
Re: Fax software (Grant Edwards)
Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie (K. Bjarnason)
Re: linuxconf for suse 6.2 ("Christopher W. Aiken")
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Dominico, Jr.)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 17:27:31 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in <7rlv48$qfa$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>You misunderstand. If you go back and re-read my posts with open eyes
>and an open mind, you will see that I have no problem with
>computer-ignorant people ***USING*** computers. My problem is the notion
>that computer-ignorant people should be able to ***ADMINISTER***
>computers. Like it or lump it, installing software is an administrative
>task. It *should* be done by someone who has *some* knowledge of
>computers. No, when I say, "someone who has *some* knowledge of
>computers," I do **NOT** mean PhD in Software Engineering Science. I do
>NOT mean MS in Computer Science. I do NOT mean BSEE or MCSE or CNE. I
>mean *****SOME***** knowledge. Period.
You just don't get it. You think that 'using' a computer != installing
software. What we are saying here is that installing software is such a
basic necessity that it should be included in the basic definition of
'using' a computer. We have all said this about a million times... try
opeing your own eyes.
>Yes, I get pissed off by all those self-righteous Windows Advocate jerks
>who put such words in my mouth. Anyone would.
For God's sake, this is NOT about Windows!!! How many times do I have to
repeat myself? This is about the CONCEPT of ease-of-use, not about a
particular OS. I, nor anyone else here, is advocating Windows. So back
off a little. I have not attacked you personally, though you have attacked
anyone who disagrees with you as a jerk, idiot, bozo, etc.
>> And no, I don't make any assumptions about your intelligence, be them
>> good or bad.
>
>Nor do I. Nowhere in this thread do I make *assumptions* about peoples'
>intelligence.
>
>Nowhere.
Hmm... I'm not a linguistics major, but referring to the average user as
(I quote) a "bozo" and an "idiot" seems to imply an assumption about their
intelligence on your part.
>Curtis
Curtis, please try to *read* what we say and *think* about it before you
reply. While you continue to personally attack myself and others, notice
that we refrain from doing the same to you. Your posts only reinforce your
misunderstanding of the issues and your generally belligerant nature.
Tom Dominico, Jr.
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From: Eric Wyles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: aumix -- how do I adjust the balance?
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 10:19:12 -0700
Hi!
I would like to be able to adjust the balance of my volume
from the command line using aumix. I have not been able
to find the syntax to do this. I have read the man page and
the aumix --help text, and I have seen no option for setting
balance. All other options can be set from the command line.
Does anyone know how I can set the balance from the command
line?
Thanks,
Eric
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Windows 98 and Caldera Open Linux Help !!!!!
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 18:17:00 GMT
have seen this happen to others..
you ended up putting the lilo on your root partiiton instead of the
0th sector of your drive. You need to run the rescue disk,
change the line that says 'boot=/dev/hda2' or something similar
to boot=/dev/hda' and rerun lilo. '/dev/hda' is your 1st harddisk,
but add a number to it (hda1,hda2 etc.), ithose represent partitions on
that drive. This change should fix it, AFAIK
But then, you don't have a rescue boot disk, do you?
well, that happens to everyone too!
Jayan
Todd Lenderman wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Uwe Klingerlocalhost
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Todd Lenderman wrote:
> >
> >> I installed a new 13 gig hard drive on my computer and installed windows 98.
> >> I partitioned the hard drive into 3 partitions and installed Linux on the
> >> other partition. Linux works great after I installed it but when I reboot my
> >> computer I'm back in Windows 98. I tried installing the Boot Manager
> >> that came on the disk "PartitionMagic" but had no luck. I have been reading
> >> about LILO but I'm a little bit lost : ) I'm thinking of buying System
> >> Comander to see if this will help. Right now I am stuck in Window98
> >> until I get this thing to boot to Linux.
> >>
> >> Thanks for any help anyone can send...
> >>
> >> Todd Lenderman
> >>
> >> *[EMAIL PROTECTED]*
> >
> >Hi,
> >
> >What distribution do you use? I think the best think is to use LILO.
> >Are you able to boot into linux? You can use loadlin from the dos prompt,
> >it should be shiped with your distribution in the dosutils dir or so.
> >When your in Linux, you should setup a lilo setup. Look into your linux book,
> >there should be a example or have a look at the LILO Howto at www.linuxberg.com
> >
> >Uwe
> >
>
> I re-installed "Caldera Open Linux" and tried to install LILO but it said
> something about my kernel exceeding 1024 cylinders.
> I am thinking about Re-Partitioning my harddrive to smaller partitions.
> Now on C:\ drive I have a 8 gig partition for Windows 98 and a 2.5 gig for
> Linux.
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> Todd
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Are tar tapes OS dependent?
Date: 14 Sep 1999 09:42:38 -0500
In article <7rlgmr$fro$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <7rlf14$ej2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> -ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Given a tape of unknown heritage can the physical record blocking be
>> determined, and how?
>>
>Not sure about linux, but in AIX you can set your tape to have
>'variable block size' - this would make reading the tape slower,
>but will read any tape.
I think you will still get an error if your read() size isn't
an even multiple of the tape block size, but the read should
complete up to the last boundary.
mt setblk 0
dd if=/dev/tape ibs=20k of=test.file count=1
should give you a hint.
Tar defaults to 10k read/write blocks, and tape drives are often
set to use either 512 byte or variable size tape blocks but
you may run into something else.
Les Mikesell
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From: Akasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Deleting WinNT
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 00:29:46 +1000
Hi,
I'm here today with a matter that's close to the hearts of many here -
deleting Windows from my hard drive at last. First off - my problem. I
have an Adaptec 2940 SCSI card, installed on this machine way back when
OS/2 Warp 3 was new. I'm stumped as to where the program resides, as it
executes after the option to edit BIOS settings is given but before the
BIOS config screen and bootloader runs. The problem is that I'm
tentative about simply obliterating the NT partition due to fear of
screwing up SCSI. Is there any risk at all?
Also, I know there are many people running *nix systems who are rabid
Star Wars fans. What program do you use to watch the trailers under *nix
seeing as Apple holds all the codecs and hasn't released QT for Unix?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Eric
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From: "Jody Thigpen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Internet Explorer
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 12:15:52 +0100
Will the IE for Unix run on any of the Linux distributions?
Jody
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From: "Philipp Leser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel won't change! Please please help
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 20:05:28 +0200
Hi,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag: =
7rlbag$c4d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Procedure:
> a) cd /usr/src/linux
> b) make xconfig
> c) make dep; make clean; make zlilo; make modules; make =
modules_install
> d) reboot
Do it by hand:
make menuconfig
make dep; make bzImage; make modules; make modules_install
Then copy arch/i386/boot/bzImage to your favourite kernelfile place, =
edit /etc/lilo.conf and run lilo.
Bye,
Philipp Leser
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From: Bernd Braun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Are tar tapes OS dependent?
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 14:18:20 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Can tar files made on tapes under one architecture/OS be transported to
> another architecture/OS?
>
> Specifically, if I create some far files to tape on a SunSPARC running
> Solaris, can I read them on an Intel box running Linux?
>
> Both machines have a DDS3 DAT drive.
>
Yes, but not hardware independent. When you transfer from big-endian
(SPARC)
to little-endian (INTEL) you have to use the blocking factor 1:
tar cbf 1 /dev/rmt/0cn (Solaris tar)
tar xbf 1 /dev/nrst (ASPI-tar for DOS)
--
Bernd Braun
Siemens AG Braunschweig
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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 19:36:49 +0200
From: Raoul Markus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Favorite Editor?
of course the only editor is ed, ok, yoy _may_ also use vi. Both run pretty
stable in any text console, and of course, if you get used to them, your
brain is capable of multi document handling as well... ;-)
sincerely, Raoul
Steve Gage wrote:
> Richard Aleksandr wrote:
> >
> > Hi :
> >
> > I am looking for a full screen editor for Linux that doesn't suck.
> > gnotepad+ is getting there but has bugs and sucks - for example, select
> > another edited file tab and when you go back to the previous file your
> > cursor has been reset to the beginning. Hey thanks!
> >
> > I like theTextEdit shareware editor on Windows A LOT but unfortunately
> > as we all know Windows sucks, and now I am back doing Unix development.
> > God, do I miss Borland C++ though. Fortunately Inprise is porting C++
> > Builder to Linux as we speak. What an excellent development environment
> > that is, now I'm spoiled.
> >
> > Please do not suggest I use xemacs, xemacs SUCKS. But, I would welcome
> > any other tips on a decent editor.
>
> I think you would be quite pleased with Nedit.
>
> - Steve
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Are tar tapes OS dependent?
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 15:19:38 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
In a message on Tue, 14 Sep 1999 05:38:50 GMT, wrote :
m> Can tar files made on tapes under one architecture/OS be transported to
m> another architecture/OS?
YES!
m>
m> Specifically, if I create some far files to tape on a SunSPARC running
m> Solaris, can I read them on an Intel box running Linux?
m>
YES!
m> Both machines have a DDS3 DAT drive.
m>
m> Thanks,
m> Matt
m>
m>
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m> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
m>
Note: There are versions of tar for MacOS, WinZip understands tar, tar
is available under OS-9 and VMS. Tar *is* the cross-platform archiver
(tape or otherwise). I wrote a version of tar for Lisp Machines (in
lisp of course). I wrote a version of it for my CP/M-68K box.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.admin,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.misc,alt.solaris.x86
Subject: Re: Are tar tapes OS dependent?
Date: 14 Sep 1999 10:19:38 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, joeh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> You can use the GNU tar.
>
>What does GNU tar do that other tar's won't please?
It has extensions to make it a good system backup tool. The
original tar program did not handle device nodes or other
special files. Many other versions have been extended as
well, and if you are using Linux, your standard tar program
will be GNUtar.
Les Mikesell
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: ATG's dynamo for linux?
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 18:03:38 GMT
has anyone heard anything about dynamo being ported for linux?
am I the only one whose life would be made easier by this?
mark
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From: Todd Knarr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
Date: 14 Sep 1999 17:44:56 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> K. Bjarnason
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes, I'm aware you can do this. So presumably, neighbour John walks
> around with a set of floppies containing the files for his preferred
> GUI, and every time he wants to use a different machine, he installs it?
> I don't think so.
No, if a machine is going to be used by multiple people ( that includes
work machines, which may be used by both the person it's assigned to and
the admins ) it gets a suitable selection of window managers and desktop
environments installed on it. Then whoever is using it merely selects
the one they like and off they go. Disk space is cheap enough to do this.
> Sit down Granddad with one for a couple days. Then switch it on him.
> Get back to me with the results. :)
BT,DT,GTTS. Windows user with no Unix background looking at an OpenLook
desktop. They asked where the Start button was, I told them "See the
desktop background? Right-click on it." "Oh, gee, I see now." and off
they went. Same user then ran into Gnome. Asked how to use the task
bar. "You know how you use the taskbar in Windows? Well the only difference
is those icons on the left launch programs directly instead of you having
to run through the menu. Same for the ones on the desktop itself." "OK, I
see that. But what about that neat floating menu?" "What'd you do in
OpenLook?" "Oh, it works! Neat.".
Wouldn't trust the guy with a live xterm, but all he needed was Netscape
and StarOffice so no problem there.
--
If I employed software developers and they gave me something like this,
I'd shoot them.
-- Abby Franquemont
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From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Samba: smbclient command to use printer on NT?
Date: 14 Sep 1999 09:52:14 -0700
I have smbmount working to mount NT shares, but I have not figured out how to
get smbclient to connect me to a NT shared printer device so that I can print
directly from my Linux laptop.
Does someone have an example command that works? The one in the smbclient man
page isn't helping me.
BTW, my smbumount doesn't seem to work. I get device busy. ???
David Steuber
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (tony summerfelt)
Subject: Re: Favorite Editor?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 18:39:13 GMT
On Tue, 14 Sep 1999 08:36:03 +0100, Jon Skeet wrote:
> My personal choice is jed, but as that's a lightweight emacs clone,
it's only a lightweight emacs clone if that's the way you've configured it...
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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 11:33:25 -0400
From: Brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: How to change /dev/cdrom definition?
donoli wrote:
>
> Edmond wrote in message <7qkD3.36614$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >When I installed my Linux Mandrake 6.0, I only had an IDE CDROM. And the
> >system configured the /dev/cdrom to my /dev/hdc. Now, I purchased an CD
> >Writer and put it in /dev/hdc and moved the old CD ROM drive to /dev/hdd.
> >After the ide-scsi module is loaded, the device /dev/hdc becomes /dev/rsd0
> >and /dev/hdc is no longer accessible. The definition of /dev/cdrom is not
> >correct in my system. How do I change it to /dev/rsd0 or /dev/hdd?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Edmond
> >
> Wasn't it /dev/hdc to /mnt/cdrom? Then the new one would be /dev/hdc1
> donoli.
> >
no, he doesnt want the mount point, he wants the device so he can make
the link. Therefore he needs /dev/cdrom linked to /dev/hdc
Brandon
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every conceivable
feature into an OPERATING SYSTEM, whether you want it or not, is
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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 16:19:41 +0100
From: Lee Mcintyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Pico
As a student, using Suns and SGI's, I remember being particularly
attached to a text editor called Pico.
It was either that, Vi or (X)Emacs. Pico won, heavily.
I have Caldera OL 2.2 Distro, and would like to know if anyone knows
where I could receive a Pico rpm, or as part of something else.
I even tied it into to elm, to send mail. Fond memories :)
Ta, Lee.
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From: grant@nowhere. (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: Fax software
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 18:59:27 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Anatoliy wrote:
>I have Caldera Open Linux 2.2,and I want use my computer for faxing.Where I
>can get fax software for my OS?
Try sendfax or hylafax.
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at shelter termite proof?
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From: K. Bjarnason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 09:20:55 -0700
[snips]
In article <7rkua4$gg9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-19990805 ("Pyanfar") (UNIX) (Linux/2.2.5-15 (i586))
>
> In comp.os.linux.misc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> K. Bjarnason
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I still say the UI needs to become standardized. Envision for the
> > moment your next-door-neighbour John running Linux at home and at work.
> > At home he's bought distro X and a month later, the office decides to go
> > with distro Y - with a completely (or at least significantly) different
> > UI. Now he has to either learn both, or throw his out and buy distro Y.
>
> I think you miss a fairly major point: you _don't_ install a GUI on
> a Unix system. You install the programs for one or more on the system
> and set each account to use at least one.
Yes, I'm aware you can do this. So presumably, neighbour John walks
around with a set of floppies containing the files for his preferred
GUI, and every time he wants to use a different machine, he installs it?
I don't think so.
> Now, Gnome is radically different from, say, the old OpenLook window
> manager. Or is it? The root menus work the same in both. Oh, there's
> differences in the items and some control functions, but for just
> starting programs from the menu they're interchangeable. OpenLook
> didn't have Gnome's task bar, but it's just a task bar. I've seen
> the same in OS/2 and in fvwm95 and in Windows95/98/NT4. Minor differences,
> but nothing that took more than a few seconds to figure out the first
> time I started working with the software. Cut/copy/paste work about
> the same ( except on Windows where I need to use a few extra keystrokes
> instead of the mouse buttons ). Ditto drag-n-drop, the little I use
> it ( mostly in file managers ).
>
> So what precisely are we trying to standardize here?
Sit down Granddad with one for a couple days. Then switch it on him.
Get back to me with the results. :)
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From: "Christopher W. Aiken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linuxconf for suse 6.2
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 14:44:23 -0400
What is wrong with YAST ???
....cwa
Norbert Wegener wrote:
> I am looking for linuxconf for suse 6.2, but I cannot find it.
> Could anyone point me to an url?
> Thanks
> Norbert Wegener
>
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