Linux-Misc Digest #810, Volume #24 Wed, 14 Jun 00 03:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Mandrake Linux (burk)
Re: Troubles reading Real Time Clock ("101011")
Re: democracy? ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
semi-loss of root - what's up?? (Spike)
Re: xmms ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
Re: Mystery Reboot - Have I been cracked? (blowfish)
Re: comp.os.linux.misc - to short time (John Thompson)
Re: How to patch kernel? (Jim McIntyre)
Re: memory (Dances With Crows)
Re: WINDOWS 98 PROGRAMS IN LINUX (Dances With Crows)
Re: httpd.conf error?? (Jeff)
Re: How to patch kernel? (Paul Kimoto)
Help Selecting Database (Kevin Sweeney)
Re: WINDOWS 98 PROGRAMS IN LINUX ("Ad Koster")
Re: Installing Linux past 1024 cylinder (M. Buchenrieder)
Re: Help Selecting Database (Christopher Browne)
Re: Java Problem with Netscape 4.51 (Lars Petterson)
Re: Java Problem with Netscape 4.51 (Lars Petterson)
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From: burk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mandrake Linux
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 03:10:38 GMT
On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, Koen Van Baelen wrote:
I have run FreeBSD, Slackware, 4 versions of RedHat and Mandrake7.
Mandrake is good. It's well appointed with applications and has some more
logical default applications than other distro's (Postfix vs. Sendmail for
instance). It is optimized for 586 and I probably wouldn't run it on
archaic hardware. It has a very slick installer, but no Linux is without
a learning curve. There are two very active mailing lists devoted to
it. However, it should be noted that under the hood, most GNU/Linux is
pretty much the same. Slack uses a different bootup sequence,
Redhat puts things in weird places, Mandrake has this somewhat difficult
to figure security system. If you're a newbie, the ability to learn, read,
and not get frustrated is more important than which distro you pick.
Good Luck,
-burk
> Hi guys,
>
> is Mandrake Linux any good? I've heard it's very easy to install and
> it's the perfect distribution for newbies.
>
> --
> Koen Van Baelen
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://users.pandora.be/koen.van.baelen
> --
>
>
>
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From: "101011" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Troubles reading Real Time Clock
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 13:10:28 +1000
Akira Yamanita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Edward Lee wrote:
> >
> > What is the standard notation for time server, similar to ns (name server).
ts
> > did not work for me. Are there public time servers available, if my isp
does not
> > have it?
Easier to cut-and-paste the following:
bigben.cac.washington.edu
bitsy.mit.edu
canon.inria.fr
chronos.univ-rennes1.fr
clock.cmc.ec.gc.ca
clock.isc.org
clock.llnl.gov
clock.nc.fukuoka-u.ac.jp
clock.osf.org
clock.tl.fukuoka-u.ac.jp
fuzzy.nta.no
jamtepat.singnet.com.sg
lerc-dns.lerc.nasa.gov
mizbeaver.udel.edu
navobs1.gatech.edu
navobs1.usnogps.navy.mil
navobs1.wustl.edu
navobs2.usnogps.navy.mil
ncar.ucar.edu
ncnoc.ncren.net
ntp.cc.utexas.edu
ntp.cs.mu.OZ.AU
ntp.dgf.uchile.cl
ntp.ml.csiro.au
ntp.nasa.gov
ntp.syd.dms.csiro.au
ntp0.ja.net
ntp0.nl.net
ntp0.sdd.hp.com
ntp1.delmarva.com
ntp1.nss.udel.edu
ntp1.sony.com
ntp2.usno.navy.mil
ntps1-0.cs.tu-berlin.de
ntps1-0.uni-erlangen.de
ntps1-1.cs.tu-berlin.de
ntps1-1.rz.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE
ntps1-1.uni-erlangen.de
ntps1-2.uni-erlangen.de
otc1.psu.edu
rackety.udel.edu
swisstime.ethz.ch
tempo.cstv.to.cnr.it
tick.mit.edu
tick.ucla.edu
tick.uh.edu
tick.usask.ca
tick.usno.navy.mil
time.ien.it
time.nist.gov
time.service.uit.no
Time1.Stupi.SE
time-a.nist.gov
time-a.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov
time-b.nist.gov
time-b.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov
tock.usask.ca
tock.usno.navy.mil
truechimer.cso.uiuc.edu
umd1.umd.edu
usno.pa-x.dec.com
utcnist.microsoft.com
utcnist1.reston.mci.net
wave.mbari.org
wwvb.erg.sri.com
wwvb.isi.edu
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: democracy?
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:28:37 -0500
On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
+ In article <1Xt05.50135$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
+ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert J Carter) wrote:
+ <snip>
+ >
+ > I think it it YOU who are being misinformed. Saying a republic is
+ > cannot be a democracy is like saying an orange can't be a fruit. They
+ > are not mutually exclusive.
+
+ Lets see... when is an orange not a fruit? When it's a color.
Cute.
+ Your metaphors, Just like your political philosophy, seem shallow and
+ inadequate.
+
+ FYI, a republic is a republic, a democracy is a democracy. An orange is
+ an orange, and an apple is an apple.
+
+ You can blend aspects of the two, that's true, but, for the umpteenth
+ time, WORDS HAVE MEANINGS. And "meaning" .NE. "interpretation". Just
+ making an assertion doesn't change the definition of a word.
+
+ Why is this so hard for public-schooled kids to understand???
Good question, why dont you look up the meanings of the words democracy
and republic.. I already posted it as a matter of fact, they ARE NOT
mutually exclusive... You are telling people that words have meanings,
but yet you ignore them to share with use your own interpretation,
you are a hypocrite on this topic. By the way, Usenet is an
international medium.
Semper Fi,
Andrew N. McGuire
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From: Spike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: semi-loss of root - what's up??
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 03:29:38 GMT
For some unknown reason, root began to refuse to be logged on to my RH
5.2 system. I had two connection as root to each of two consoles.
When I attempted to log on to a third console as root, I was told
(after being certain that there were no typo's) that the password was
incorrect. It simply WAS NOT incorrect. After some jacking around, I
found that I am able to log in as myself and su to root, using the
correct password, and gain root priv's. However, I am still unable to
ACTUALLY log on AS root. What the Dickin's is going on? While su'd to
root, I was able to change the root password (ie: "passwd root , etc.
etc. - all tokens successfully updated") but that didn't help.
Whatever new password I assign can be used to su to root, but will not
allow root, proper, to log on. I could sure use some help.
TIA
--
Spike Parker
Eastex Crude Company
Newsome, Texas, USA
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: xmms
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:41:45 -0500
On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, Stephen E. Hargrove wrote:
+ i'm having a heck of a time getting xmms working. i've tried everything i
+ know, but still the problem persists. i'm sure i have my sound set up
+ correctly. i've tried both the commercial OSS (soundon) and compiling
+ sound into the kernel. either way when i play a CD, it works great.
+ however, when i try to play an MP3 with xmms, xmms moves /very/ slowly
+ (i.e., 5 seconds real time = 1 second xmms time) and (predictably) there's
+ no sound.
+
+ here's a breakdown of what i've tried:
+
+ 01 reinstall the rpm
+ 02 download, compile and install the tar.gz
+ 03 try xmms with the commercial OSS (soundon)
+ 04 try xmms with sound compiled into the kernel
+ 05 alternate the output plugin between esound and OSS
+ 06 delete ~/.xmms and restart xmms
+
+ still, no joy. i'm running gnome on redhat 6.1. any ideas would be
+ greatly appreciated. i'm completely lost and starting to get a little
+ pissed about the whole thing. thanks.
+ (btw, the MP3s stream fine on Win9x machines.)
Try it with your regular sound card drivers... I had this same problem
before, what I did to fix it was this.
1. Open xmms.
2. Place your cursor over xmms and press Cntrl+P.
3. Under the Audio I/O Plugins tab, select MPEG Layer, then click
'Configure' [ make sure the plugin is enabled as well ].
4. Try setting decoder resolution to '8 bit'.
5. Try playing another mp3.
If the above instructions do not work, you may email me at the address
in my signature. The slowness you speak of is the EXACT same problem
I had before, and the above is what I did to fix it.
Best Wishes,
anm
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: Mystery Reboot - Have I been cracked?
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 21:23:28 -0700
"L. Bailey" wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I got home tonight and found out that my server had rebooted.
> Has this ever happened to anyone else?
>
> Here is my configuration.
>
> SuSE 6.3
> Kernel 2.2.14 (Mine)
>
> Abit BP6
> 2 Celeron 366's overclocked to 550
>
> 384 Megs of RAM
> Tekram U2W SCSI card
> 1 each Fujitisu MAE3091LP and MAE3182LP Hard Drives
>
> Could it be something funky with the CPU's? This machine has been
> running for months, and aside from the SMP bug way back in October has
> been rock solid.
>
> I have cable modem and a strong firewall between me and the world at my
> ISP. Have I been cracked anyway?
Sounds like it's caused by over-clocking.
Over-clocking is not something that you want if you want a
stable machine.
blowfish.
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: comp.os.linux.misc - to short time
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 09:53:43 -0500
Rafael wrote:
> Unfortunately I don't like use news thruu deja.com. I prefer use new by
> normal news reader is much more convienent. I can download all news to my
> laptop and read them at home
Run your own server (eg, leafnode or whatever), feed it from the
university's nntp server and set your own expire time.
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Jim McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to patch kernel?
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 04:30:04 GMT
Hi Steve:
Try either of these commands
gzip -cd pathcXX.gz | patch -p0
or store the patch in /usr/src directory, and from the /usr/src
directory run
./linux/scripts/patch-kernel
Jim
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: memory
Date: 14 Jun 2000 00:46:07 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:55:52 -0400, Bigoffthewall
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>im trying to get my red hat box to recognize the 64 meg dimms chip i put
>in.. i am adding that to the already existing16 meg dimms. i added to
>etc/lilo.conf append="mem= 80M".. once i try and boot i get a kernel
>panic...could anyone please help
Check your motherboard manual. For many boards, you have to put the
largest DIMM in slot 0, and progressively smaller ones in slots
1,2,.... Also, you may have a bad DIMM, expecially if you bought it
cheaply from a fly-by-nighter. There's a program called memtest86
(do a search on http://freshmeat.net/ ) that will do extensive memory
checking; try that out.
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows /\ "Man could not stare too long at the face
\----[this space for rent]-----/ \ of the Computer or her children and still
\There is no Darkness in Eternity \ remain as Man." --David Zindell "Online
But only Light too dim for us to see\ gender bending going too far?" --/me
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: WINDOWS 98 PROGRAMS IN LINUX
Date: 14 Jun 2000 00:52:32 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 02:30:05 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>I really don't want to have to dual boot. I would rather have Linux as my
>os and be able to run some of my windows programs from within Linux. Is
>this feasible and/or the best approach? I like to work on this machine as
>well as play the usual games. System is a NEC Pentium II 233 MMX, 96 megs
>Ram, 16mg Voodoo 3 PCI video card, ethernet card for cable modem, 56k modem
>and Sound blaster sound card. I have plenty of Hard disk space.
Buy more RAM and spend $100 on VMWare. This *will* work, and it will take
the least time and effort on your part. It will cost you money,
naturally.
Alternatively, check out http://winehq.com/ although this requires a lot
more tweaking and may not play "the usual games" without much fiddling.
Try to find Linux equivalents for the "usual Lose9x games"; a lot of them
are free and those that aren't (Quake 3, Railroad Tycoon, Myth 2) support
the Linux game-porting effort and give companies reason to port their
games to Linux when you buy them.
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows /\ "Man could not stare too long at the face
\----[this space for rent]-----/ \ of the Computer or her children and still
\There is no Darkness in Eternity \ remain as Man." --David Zindell "Online
But only Light too dim for us to see\ gender bending going too far?" --/me
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From: Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: httpd.conf error??
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 05:30:06 GMT
Akira Yamanita wrote:
>
> Jeff wrote:
> >
> > I have been setting up a server on RH 6.2. When I try and access a
page
> > like http://localhost/~blaise I get an error that the page is
forbidden.
> > And recently I get the error when I access http://localhost, which
used to
> > work. Any help?
>
> Read the thread "Apache problem?" in this newsgroup.
Can you copy and paste it for me because I cannot access the newsgroup
because my ISP is having problems with its news server. If you can thanks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: How to patch kernel?
Date: 14 Jun 2000 01:56:33 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve Browne wrote:
> I see that www.kernel.org provides kernel update patches as well as
> the kernels ("patch-2.3.21.gz" for example). After "patch" is
> unzipped, how is it applied? Is there a command, "patch", to do this?
Yes. See its man page.
The command
$ cd /usr/src/linux; zcat patch-2.3.21.gz | patch -p1
will turn the 2.3.20 source code into the 2.3.21 source code,
provided that the former is installed in /usr/src/linux.
--
Paul Kimoto
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From: Kevin Sweeney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help Selecting Database
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 01:03:25 -0400
Hi all,
I'm an engineer trying to set up a small database for my personal
observations in a testing environment. I don't want, or need, a SQL
style client/server database but need more power and flexibility than a
small personal contact manager. Something similar to Filemaker or
(shudder) Access would be ideal. Open source is of course preferable but
commercial is acceptable if need be. Thanks
Kevin Sweeney
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From: "Ad Koster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WINDOWS 98 PROGRAMS IN LINUX
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 08:04:23 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows) wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 02:30:05 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>>I really don't want to have to dual boot. I would rather have Linux as
>>my os and be able to run some of my windows programs from within Linux.
>>Is this feasible and/or the best approach? I like to work on this
>>machine as well as play the usual games. System is a NEC Pentium II 233
>>MMX, 96 megs Ram, 16mg Voodoo 3 PCI video card, ethernet card for cable
>>modem, 56k modem and Sound blaster sound card. I have plenty of Hard
>>disk space.
>
> Buy more RAM and spend $100 on VMWare. This *will* work, and it will
> take the least time and effort on your part. It will cost you money,
> naturally.
>
> Alternatively, check out http://winehq.com/ although this requires a lot
> more tweaking and may not play "the usual games" without much fiddling.
> Try to find Linux equivalents for the "usual Lose9x games"; a lot of
> them are free and those that aren't (Quake 3, Railroad Tycoon, Myth 2)
> support the Linux game-porting effort and give companies reason to port
> their games to Linux when you buy them.
>
Another alternative is Win4Lin.
Http://www.trelos.com
I just installed it and it works really great !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Greetings
Ad Koster
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: Installing Linux past 1024 cylinder
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 05:43:52 GMT
[Note: Non-existant group col.redhat removed from Newsgroups:
line. If your newsserver does indeed carry such a group, please
contact your newsadmin and tell him to setup pgpverify for his
newssoftware.]
Vikram V Asrani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>In comp.os.linux.misc Kevin Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>=> I am trying to install RedHat Linux 6.2 on a 20 gig drive. I put it on
>=> the end of the drive past the 1024th out of 2500 cylinders. LILO
>=> doesn't seem to like booting from here, it locks up halfway through the
>=> printing of the LILO prompt. I have heard that lilo doesn't work past
>=> the 1024th cylinder of the drive.
>As far as I know, it is your BIOS which provides this restriction and not
>lilo.
Not with a BIOS version that is younger than 1 - 2 years. See similar
postings at Deja.com for explanation.
Usually, you simply need a newer LILO version to be able to boot off of
> cyl. 1023.
>There is some information about the same in the documentation
>file in /usr/doc/lilo.
>====> From /usr/doc/lilo/Manual
[...]
Obsolete.
Michael
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: Help Selecting Database
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 06:11:27 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Kevin Sweeney would say:
> I'm an engineer trying to set up a small database for my personal
>observations in a testing environment. I don't want, or need, a SQL
>style client/server database but need more power and flexibility than a
>small personal contact manager. Something similar to Filemaker or
>(shudder) Access would be ideal. Open source is of course preferable but
>commercial is acceptable if need be. Thanks
There are efforts ongoing on SQL front ends on both GNOME and KDE
fronts, but they're probably not quite what you're looking for.
The nearest thing to what you want is very likely Borland Paradox,
which is part of the "Corel Office Deluxe" package. I'm interested in
trying it out, but haven't done so yet, so I can't guarantee
suitability.
I'm presuming what you want is:
- GUIed front end
- Some form of QBE (Query By Example) reporting
- Some form of reporting tool
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is one such. Live by the Bill, suffer by the Bill, die by the Bill."
-- Tom Christiansen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lars Petterson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Java Problem with Netscape 4.51
Date: 14 Jun 2000 06:46:20 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
David .. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Larry wrote:
>>
>> I'm trying to use a Java applet in Netscape 4.51 under RH 6 and everytime
>> I run the applet, the browser closes immediately. The same thing happens
>> when I try to go to Communicator->Tools->Java Console.
>
>
>There is a problem in one of the installation RPMS that is causing many
>systems to not have a complete list of fontpath for X to use.
>
>To see if this is the problem you are facing, please use the command
>
>chkfontpath --list
I get
Current directories in font path:
1: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled
2: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled
3: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled
4: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc
5: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1
6: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo
7: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi
8: /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1
9: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
And Netscape (4.73) still krasches on java-pages (perhaps not at once,
but after a while.) Netscape seem to end up in som sort of loop "eating"
CPU-time... (RH6.2)
>You should then add the 75dpi scaled font to your path list using the
>command:
>
>chkfontpath --add /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
>
>This should fix the problem you are seeing.
If it doesn't, any ideas on that?
--
Lars E Pettersson | Chalmers University of Technology
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Gothenburg, SWEDEN
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lars Petterson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Java Problem with Netscape 4.51
Date: 14 Jun 2000 06:46:20 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
David .. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Larry wrote:
>>
>> I'm trying to use a Java applet in Netscape 4.51 under RH 6 and everytime
>> I run the applet, the browser closes immediately. The same thing happens
>> when I try to go to Communicator->Tools->Java Console.
>
>
>There is a problem in one of the installation RPMS that is causing many
>systems to not have a complete list of fontpath for X to use.
>
>To see if this is the problem you are facing, please use the command
>
>chkfontpath --list
I get
Current directories in font path:
1: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled
2: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled
3: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled
4: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc
5: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1
6: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo
7: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi
8: /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1
9: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
And Netscape (4.73) still krasches on java-pages (perhaps not at once,
but after a while.) Netscape seem to end up in som sort of loop "eating"
CPU-time... (RH6.2)
>You should then add the 75dpi scaled font to your path list using the
>command:
>
>chkfontpath --add /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
>
>This should fix the problem you are seeing.
If it doesn't, any ideas on that?
--
Lars E Pettersson | Chalmers University of Technology
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Gothenburg, SWEDEN
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