Linux-Misc Digest #810, Volume #18 Fri, 29 Jan 99 13:13:17 EST
Contents:
New to Linux ("Gaea")
Firewall? (Dan Star)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Joseph L. Wood, III)
Re: linux on thinkpad? (Ted Staberow)
Re: Netscape and RPM ("Munther M. Hindi")
Re: Booting Linux from a Zip Drive!?!!?!! (Scott Alfter)
Re: Lost: One Cute Penguin (Stephen Richard FREELAND)
Re: Netscape and RPM (Bill Unruh)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Chris)
changing the server prompt (Daddy Rabbit)
linux won't install ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Shutdown (Cory Phillips)
Re: Switching from Red Hat 5.1 to Debian (Phillip Deackes)
Re: Lost: One Cute Penguin ("Derek Lakin")
Re: Setting up RH 5.1 as its own mail server (Stefan Davids)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Larry)
Re: New to Linux (papy)
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From: "Gaea" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.redhat,at.linux,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: New to Linux
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 10:55:55 -0500
Hi everyone,
I'm about to install RedHat 5.2 on my p2 450 computer. Is there anything I
need to know before I install it? I have a 14.4GB HD and I'm going to put
Linux on a seprate partion. I would also like to know how do I boot between
2 Operating Systems. Can Windows 98 and Linux coexist?
BTW, Is this OS easy to learn?
Thanks
-Linda
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From: Dan Star <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Firewall?
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:29:44 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
I am looking into firewall technology being a newbie and am wondering if
firewall software exists for linux, and if it does can it:
- secure In/Out FTP
- securs Telnet In/Out
- provids Virtual Private Networking supporting Microsoft's clientside
PPTP
If you can please REPLY ALL.
-Dan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joseph L. Wood, III)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: 29 Jan 1999 16:11:41 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mike Werner wrote:
>
> > Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus wrote:
> > > The US military must recruit from US nationals. The reason for this
> > > should be
> > > fairly obvious.
> >
> > Care to lay odds on that? If so, I'll see if I still have the addreses
> > of some of the folks I served with while in the US Navy. I do remember
> > that at least one was from the Subic Bay area of the Philippines. I
> > believe the others were from down around Manila. But they each were
> > still citizens of the Philippines, not the US.
>
> And for the purposes and context of this discussion? =)
>
> You think any nation would have foreigners running and working for their
> intelligence and defense organisations? (In your case DoD, etc.)
>
Any resident alien can enlist in the US armed forces and after a six? year
tour can immediately become US citizens. In addition I believe that the US
Navy has a special deal with the Phillipines wherein Phillipinos can enlist
in the US Navy where they serve mainly as stewards (cooks and mess hall
attendants) and then return to the Phillipines after serving their 20
years with a nice, for the Phillipines, retirement pension.
Joe Wood
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 10:19:46 -0600
From: Ted Staberow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: tstaber@no!spam.ibm.net
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: linux on thinkpad?
Hi MasterD,
Some older ThinkPads (from the 75x series) had strange drive
controllers that made booting a bit difficult but with a little
perceverance the problems could be worked out. I have Linux on a 770E and
it runs perfectly.
Ted Staberow
Prairie Networking, Inc.
MasterD wrote:
> StLSD2000 wrote:
> >
> > Is anyone out there running slackware on a thinkpad 1450 i? I'm having
> > some problems and am having a hell of a time getting them solved...
> >
> > StLSD2000
> >
> > "Don't be such a dick in the M.U.D."
>
> A friend of mine ran Lynix on a thinkpad, but he had to boot from a
> floppy all the time. Something wierd with the IBM bios in it, as I
> recall. Other than that it ran pretty well.
>
> -MasterD
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 21:54:54 +0000
From: "Munther M. Hindi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Netscape and RPM
Len Cuff wrote:
>
> I've just tried to download an RPM file which I need from www.suse.com
> for Linux. Problem is that Netscape thinks it's a RealPlayer file and
> insists on opening Realplayer every time. I just want to save the file
> to disk but how ??
> Cheers,
> Len
You hold the shift key while pressing button 1 and netscape will ask you
where you want to save the file to.
--
Munther Hindi
Department of Physics
Tennessee Technological University
Cookeville, TN 38505
Tel: 931-372-3629 Fax: 931-372-6351
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hindi.physics.tntech.edu/~hindi
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Alfter)
Subject: Re: Booting Linux from a Zip Drive!?!!?!!
Date: 28 Jan 1999 11:58:57 -0800
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Neil Zanella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Is it possible to install Linux on a Zip Drive and somehow run Linux off
>the Zip drive?
If it's an IDE or SCSI Zip drive with a BIOS that supports booting from such
a device (and the appropriate SCSI card is installed, if you're using a SCSI
Zip drive), yes. If it's a parallel-port (evil) Zip drive, no.
>Will there be a significant loss in speed if I run a program from a Zip
>drive, compared to running it on a hard drive?
If it's IDE or SCSI, there will be some speed penalty, but it'll still move
along at a reasonable speed (I used to run MS Office off of a Zip disk). If
it's parallel, it'll be s...l...o...w. A parallel Zip drive will also slow
your system down to a crawl while it works. (I used to move MP3s between
home and work. I could fill up a disk in about four minutes with a SCSI Zip
drive hooked to an AVA-1502. At work, it took 20-25 minutes to read the
MP3s back off the disk with a parallel Zip drive (and no, it's not an
ancient computer at work: IBM Aptiva E6U, PII-400, 128MB, 13.7GB, etc.).)
Parallel ports are for printers, and only printers.
_/_
/ v \
(IIGS( Scott Alfter (salfter at (yo no quiero spam) delphi dot com)
\_^_/ http://people.delphi.com/salfter
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From: Stephen Richard FREELAND <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Lost: One Cute Penguin
Date: 28 Jan 1999 20:44:09 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Derek Lakin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I had a graphics problem whereby I seemed to be running at a really low
: screen resolution and couldn;t see most of the screen. I could, however, see
: a really cute penguin on a Start button very similar to the Windows 95/98/NT
: that I'm used to.
:^>
: I upgraded XFree86 from version 3.3.2 to 3.3.3 and gained the necessary X
: Server in the process. However, now when I type 'xstart' I have lost my cute
: penguin and have some rather drab looking pale blue windows, one says
: 'login' and the other two say 'xterm'.
What happened is that the initialization files which start the
program responsible for the penguin button (the window manager) were
replaced. Look at /var/X11R6/lib/xinit/xinitrc. (If that's not where it
is, find it with "locate /xinitrc") Towards the end there should be a line
with the command "twm" on it.
You have two choices. You can get your old window manager back by
replacing the twm line with "fvwm95" (removing the three xterm lines as
well, if you like). Or you can try to find your old xinitrc file, which
will potentially restore more than just the window manager. How you do that
will depend on how you got your original Linux distribution.
Ciao... . SNF .
--
Steve 'Nephtes' Freeland | Okay, so maybe I'm a tiny itty little
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | bit of a minimalist.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: Netscape and RPM
Date: 28 Jan 1999 22:00:42 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Len Cuff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
>I've just tried to download an RPM file which I need from www.suse.com
>for Linux. Problem is that Netscape thinks it's a RealPlayer file and
>insists on opening Realplayer every time. I just want to save the file
>to disk but how ??
Hold the shift key down while you left click. That will save a link
rather than trying to show it.
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From: Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 10:15:42 -0600
Michael Powe wrote:
[SNIP]
> >>>>> "Chris" == Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Chris> I'm sorry but the only reason asia has the technology is
> Chris> because we sent it over there because labor was
> Chris> cheaper. And yes it did help modern computing leap
>
> Hmm, well, improvements in manufacturing technology were made over
> there as well as over here.
>
> The whole argument is stupid, anyway. A lot of Americans are so
> weak-minded that they can't stand the thought of being "just folks."
> Everywhere I go, some chest-thumping moron is bound to be declaring
> "America is the greatest country in the world."
>
> Cock-a-doodle-do.
>
> mp
[SNIP]
I'm not a "chest-thumping moron" as you state in your generalization.
And you stated it correctly. "Improvements" Yes that's correct.
But without the US sending the technology in the first place I don't
think they would be as far ahead in manufacturing as they are.
I guess you blinded yourself when all the flak about US
companys using sweathouses in asian countrys to manufacture there
products hit the news.
And what is wrong with me saying I live in the best country in the
world? Should I say the US sucks but I'll stay here and make money.
Are you enjoying posting messages on an American server?
Or do you think you should stop because we are just a bunch of morons.
And why would you want to post a message on a server that is run by
morons?
Chris
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daddy Rabbit)
Subject: changing the server prompt
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 16:22:21 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I want to change the server prompt so the pwd is displayed. I have
search the HowTo's, FAQ, etc but haven't found anything on the
subject. I have played around with /etc/bashrc and changed the PS1=
string to various combinations but, of course, not knowing the
variables required my efforts were useless. If you know how to make
the changes I would appreciate an example.
PS1=
Thanks
Jim
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: linux won't install
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 17:22:09 GMT
Hi, I'm a newbie at Linux. I obtained a copy of redhat 5.2 deluxe (the one
put out by MacMillan publishing). I advise non-experts to avoid this product
since no support is provided by redhat. By directly from Redhat and get
access to their tech support. In any case, I'm having a major problem with
the installation. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. The
gory details:
After booting from the boot floppy, I get the menu asking for my boot
choices.
I press entrer for the default and after loading the install program,
the system will hang, requiring a hard reset or power off. At the point of the
hang, the last few lines of the screen are:
Real Time Clock Driver v1.09
Ramdisk driver initialized : 16 ramdisks pf 4096k size
ide i82371 PIIX (Triton) on PCI bus 0 function 57
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007
ide1: BM DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f
At this point, the system hangs up completely.
I've tried disabling the cache, both the on-board L1 cache and the L2
cache and same thing happens.
I have Windows NT workstation 4.0 on there now and it boots fine.
My system configuration:
233mhz Pentium II 233mhz
512k L2 Cache
128mb dram
Iwill Mother board p55xub/xubwb w/intel 430TX chipset
Award modular bios v4.51pg and Award Plug and Play Bios extension
v1.0A
Adaptec aha-2920 scsi adapter card
Adaptec aha-2940au pci scsi adapter on the system board (no devices
connected)
Western digital 8.4 gb eide hard drive on pirmary ide interface
conner 1gb scsi drive connected to 2920 card
fujitsu 1gb scsi drive connected to 2920 card
Toshiba 3401TA scsi cd rom connected to 2920 card
Diamond viper pc 2mb video card weitek p9100 chip
Serial mouse
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From: Cory Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Shutdown
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 11:40:22 -0600
My linux box at home is not being used in a multi-user environment.
I have created accounts for the members of my household and am reserving
root for special sys admin work (as instructed to by documentation).
The problem is, I log into the system with my user account, but when I'm
done
I have to login as root to execute the shutdown command. When I try the
shutdown
command from my user account, I get a message stating that the command
is only
available to root. I checked the execute permissions of the
/sbin/shutdown file
and it indicates that execute privilages are granted to all three types
of users
(shutdown -rwxr-xr-x).
How can I shutdown my system without logging into root each time?
Thanks,
Cory
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phillip Deackes)
Subject: Re: Switching from Red Hat 5.1 to Debian
Date: 28 Jan 1999 20:39:21 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michel Catudal wrote:
>Rod Person wrote:
>>
>> How can I upgrade a Red Hat system to Debian without deleting the
>> working binary apps? I think if I follow the installation procedures and
>> not initalize a previous linux partition, it will just write over the
>> red hat stuff. Any one know.
>
>It seems more like a downgrade, not to say a major headeache. Stay with
>RedHat, and considering that it is where the industry is going you have
>better chance of having a good working system. Debian requires much more
>work than you might have the patience to do.
I made the move from RedHat to Debian and have never looked back.
Everything I install on my Debian system just *works*. The deb packaging
system is more thorough than the rpm system used by RedHat in that there
is more in the post-installation area. Frequently when you install a
package you are asked a few questions so that the package is set up
correctly for you.
Just one small example. With RedHat I gave up trying to get TkDesk to
take on the TkStep (NeXT) look. I installed TkStep but TkDesk stubbornly
refused to use it. When I installed the deb pacakge of TkStep, and fired
up TkStep, there it was - using the TkStep libs without any effort on my
part. I have a great many other examples like this which mean I have
more time to do what I want to do rather than trying to get things
configured and working.
BTW, I am by no means an expert. I started with RedHat 4.1 and upgraded
up to 5.0. I then moved to Debian 2.0. Best thing I ever did!!
--
Phillip Deackes
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian Linux v.2.0
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From: "Derek Lakin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Lost: One Cute Penguin
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 22:07:20 -0000
Thanks for your help.
Stephen Richard FREELAND wrote in message <78qi6p$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>In comp.os.linux.misc Derek Lakin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: I had a graphics problem whereby I seemed to be running at a really low
>: screen resolution and couldn;t see most of the screen. I could, however,
see
>: a really cute penguin on a Start button very similar to the Windows
95/98/NT
>: that I'm used to.
> :^>
>
>: I upgraded XFree86 from version 3.3.2 to 3.3.3 and gained the necessary X
>: Server in the process. However, now when I type 'xstart' I have lost my
cute
>: penguin and have some rather drab looking pale blue windows, one says
>: 'login' and the other two say 'xterm'.
> What happened is that the initialization files which start the
>program responsible for the penguin button (the window manager) were
>replaced. Look at /var/X11R6/lib/xinit/xinitrc. (If that's not where it
>is, find it with "locate /xinitrc") Towards the end there should be a line
>with the command "twm" on it.
> You have two choices. You can get your old window manager back by
>replacing the twm line with "fvwm95" (removing the three xterm lines as
>well, if you like). Or you can try to find your old xinitrc file, which
>will potentially restore more than just the window manager. How you do
that
>will depend on how you got your original Linux distribution.
> Ciao... . SNF .
>--
>Steve 'Nephtes' Freeland | Okay, so maybe I'm a tiny itty little
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] | bit of a minimalist.
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From: Stefan Davids <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Setting up RH 5.1 as its own mail server
Date: 28 Jan 1999 21:59:47 +0000
>>>>> "Chris" == Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Chris> Thanks for the help! One more question...where in
Chris> sendmail.cw do I put these qualified domains? It's a
Chris> complex looking file...
I think you're probably looking at sendmail.cf. If you're using the
stock sendmail rpm that comes with RH 5.1 the file you want is
sendmail.cw - note the last letter! This should be practically empty
except for maybe localhost and some comments at the top (possibly).
Just add any hostname (fully qualified) for which you should accept
mail to the bottom of this, one per line.
This file should be referenced at the top of sendmail.cf, if you have
trouble finding it for some reason, as `Fw/path/to/sendmail.cw'
Stefan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 29 Jan 1999 15:10:40 GMT
On Thu, 28 Jan 1999 09:13:18 -0600, pdohert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Gary wrote:
>> Does anyone post Linux questions anymore or is this an International
>> pissing contest ?? "My countries bigger than yours" ??
>
>This all started when several people on here made disparaging remarks
>regarding the citizenry of the USA. I merely responded with a defense
>against this attack. If you don't like the direction of the thread move
>on...
We can out BOMB any other country in the world. Any arguments?
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From: papy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.redhat,at.linux,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: New to Linux
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 19:43:27 +0100
Gaea wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm about to install RedHat 5.2 on my p2 450 computer. Is there anything I
> need to know before I install it? I have a 14.4GB HD and I'm going to put
> Linux on a seprate partion. I would also like to know how do I boot between
> 2 Operating Systems. Can Windows 98 and Linux coexist?
>
> BTW, Is this OS easy to learn?
>
> Thanks
>
> -Linda
i currently have win98 and linux Red Hat 5.1 with LILO and it works very
well .
if you want to access your windows98 files ,you must be sure that linux
understand FAT32 (there is a news about it); if you have FAT16 there should be
no problem to see them under linux.
if you install LILO it will very simple to boot either on linux or on win98,
you will only have to type dos or linux at the LILO boot: after the computer
have started.
This OS is exactly the same to use as Unix .it will be very simple if you
already know Unix .
If no, you should install KDE which seems to windows, and learn basic Unix
commands.
-papy
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