Linux-Misc Digest #825, Volume #21 Wed, 15 Sep 99 18:13:10 EDT
Contents:
Re: winmodem driver to linux (Eric Headley)
Re: windows and linux on the same machine. ("G. Pollack")
raw CD copy : how ? (Xavier SERPAGGI)
Re: What conflict? ("David Wright")
Re: AutoPPP and assigning ip numbers based on port! ("Pat Crean")
Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie (Joseph Crowe)
Re: Root as raid1 - how ? (Rob Webster)
Re: winmodem driver to linux (Bill Unruh)
Re: Are tar tapes OS dependent? (joeh)
ADSL and DHCP Connectivity (Jim McIntyre)
Re: Fax Server (Paul Leon)
dosemu and win98? ("John Coonrod")
Re: Absurd Linux mentality ! (Robert Krawitz)
Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie (Sean Gilley,0B206,,2336)
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From: Eric Headley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: winmodem driver to linux
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 20:09:28 GMT
In article <7rotle$uql$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> who can it be that still there not a driver
> for winmodems for linux
> nobody going to write one???
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
>
Why ? Winmodems are inferior modems that require the CPU to do
excessive work. Just get a proper modem.
Eric Headley
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: "G. Pollack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: windows and linux on the same machine.
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 21:17:59 GMT
Dave Robbins wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I was wondering, how would I go about using windows and linux on my
> computer? My computer is a Compaq Presario 5724.
> Thanks for your time.
> Dave Robbins
>
> ------------------ Posted via CNET Linux Help ------------------
> http://www.searchlinux.com
(1) Install linux on a separate disk partition, and use LILO to choose
whether to boot into windows or linux, or
(2) Install linux, and then use vmware (http://www.vmware.com) to run
windows in a virtual computer running under linux; that way you can run
both windows and linux simultaneously.
--
Gerald Pollack
Dept. of Biology, McGill University
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From: Xavier SERPAGGI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: raw CD copy : how ?
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 18:21:54 +0200
Hi,
Does anyone of you know about a little software able to dump a CD image
in order to burn it back with something like cdrecord ?
I mean a software just like cdrwin or similar on windows (sorry ;). With
or without graphics interface.
Thanks.
--
Xavier SERPAGGI [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Labo. d'Images de Synth�se de St Etienne Tel: 04 77 42 66 40
Centre SIMADE / E.N.S.M-S.E. Fax: 04 77 42 66 66
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From: "David Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: What conflict?
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 10:26:48 -0600
Stone,
It appears you have a conflict with your network card and your sound card
(not sure because you did not include your error message specifics). I just
debugged a similar problem over the weekend; it's really not that hard.
First look at the Plug and Play HOW-TO, and do a 'man isapnp' to understand
what you're working with. Then:
1. Run 'pnpdump > isapnp.conf.test' to create a commented out version of
your isapnp.conf file.
2. Diff this file with your current isapnp.conf file to find out what IRQs,
DMA, I/O addresses, etc. are enabled.
3. Look at your error message and figure out which setting is causing the
error (line number).
4. Save a copy of your isapnp.conf file (safeguard)
5. Try different settings for the board that's causing the problem by
uncommenting/commenting sections in the isapnp file.
6. Run isapnp to see if this fixes your problem.
HTH,
Dave
Stone Y Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Machine: Compaq Desktop 2000
Network adapters: 3Com Etherlink III ISA 3c509b-combo PnP
Sound card: ES1868 Plug and Play AudioDrive
Display Adapter: Compaq S3V2/GX PCI V1.80
O.S : Redhat 6.0 (& Windows95)
Problem description:
step 1: use command "sndconfig". it told me it found my card, but
something
conflicting. I don't care about it yet.
step 2: turn on audio support in Gnome. Listen music ..., enjoyable!
;-)
step 3: find that I can't ping my server and ftp doesn't work any more.
step 4: reboot to Windows95 and find that ping and ftp work well.
step 5: reboot to Linux again. When rebooting, it told me there are
some conflicts
in isapnp.conf.
step 6: screen went dark. And I can't login to Gnome or command line at
all.
step 7: shut down the power and restart to Linux. This time there are
still conflicts
in isapnp.conf but I can login to Gnome.
step 8: turn off audio support in Gnome, try to use command "sndconfig"
again. After
it told me it found my card, it stopped working. Also my
keyboard and mouse
don't work any more. My machine is down. I have to shut
down the power.
Can you tell me how to solve this problem? (Of course, I still want to
listen to the music. )
Thanks in advance!
--
Stone Y Li
Tel: 86-532-8702000 ext.5240
Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Lucent Technologies
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From: "Pat Crean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: AutoPPP and assigning ip numbers based on port!
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 17:18:43 -0400
AutoPPP is just a way for mgetty to automagically call pppd. pppd, in turn
will use all of the option files it normally does --- man pppd will tell you
which files it uses, and in what order it reads them.
Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 14:51:37 -0400, "Pat Crean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Anything wrong with options.ttyS0, options.ttyS1, etc???
>
> Okay, the million dollar question is.. how do I have AutoPPP use the
> appropriate options file? (This is the same question posted in the
> original message.)
>
> >
> >
> >Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> It's simple enough to enable AutoPPP and allow Windows DUN users to
> >> dial-in with PAP. However, to make the process simple for the remote
> >> user the system needs to autoassign an ip address to each PPP client.
> >> I realize this can be done within the options file like so:
> >>
> >> aa.bb.cc.dd:ww.xx.yy.zz
> >>
> >> where aa.bb.cc.dd is the server and ww.xx.yy.zz is the client. But how
> >> does this work with AutoPPP? I can only specify one options file for
> >> AutoPPP to call when bringing up pppd, so how can I assign an ip
> >> address to each port?
> >>
> >> Better yet, is there a better way? Any help or advise would be greatly
> >> appreciated!
> >> ---
> >> Dustin Puryear
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
>
> ---
> Dustin Puryear
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Joseph Crowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 15:27:39 -0500
Hi Tom, Jeff, et. al.,
On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Tom Dominico, Jr. wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeff Gentry) wrote in <7rmk1l$u74$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> >Tom Dominico, Jr. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >: Choose the one that suits you. No one here is insisting that you use
> >: Windows, "wizards", etc. So don't insist that others do things the
> >: way you think they should. Just as you deplore being "told" by
> >: Microsoft what to
> >
> >The problem arises, however, when things get so user-friendly that
> >it is no longer possible to "do things the way you think they
> >should". Take, for instance, Windows. There are many things that are
> >totally and completely shielded from any user, much less the advanced
> >one.
> >
> >User Friendliness comes at a price.
>
> I whole-heartedly agree, and that is why I personally am moving away from
> Windows and to Linux, etc. HOWEVER, Linux is still way too complicated
> for the average user to grasp.
That depends. In my situation, I have a Windows 98 box that is used by
me and my SO. She uses it for light WP, ICQ, email and browsing the web.
Her interface to Windows98 is a login and password(much less secure than
Linux...in fact a joke and a bad one indeed). Her interface to Linux is a
login and a password. She uses Netscape on Linux for email and web
browsing. She uses Corel Wordperfect for WP and LICQ for ICQ. This is
Jane user you are talking about. A properly setup Linux system is no more
difficult to use than a Windows box and one hell of a lot more stable.
> I program for Windows, have done systems
> administration, etc., so I think I will be able to handle the transition.
> But Joe User probably couldn't, at least not yet. I agree with you,
> there is a _very_ fine line between ease-of-use, and giving up control
> and power. Personally, I think the ultimate OS will be able to bridge
> that gap. It will offer excellent ease-of-use and intelligence, but only
> if you want it to. You will be able to "get your hands dirty" if you
> want to, as well. At least, that's what I hope. The simple fact is that
> the average user needs/wants most of this stuff to be shielded from them.
I'm not so sanguine about that Tom. It depends on the individual, of
course, but in my experience, outside of very casual users, almost
everybody wants to learn more about the computing experience. Even if it
only means learning all the ins and outs of an application, this seems
true. In the case of systemic failures, we find the real weakness of the
Windows experience. In such cases, Joe or Jane user as you call them, will
be told most often, just reboot, let Scandisk run and try again. But what
about the case where that solves nothing? Then you have a case where a
naive user wipes the disk and does a reinstall? Sadly, that's the case
with Windows98 over time.
> How else do you explain the success of Windows, or the iMac?
Savvy marketting and gullibility on the part of users. FWIW, MacOS has
proven far more stable than Windows.....anyway, these platforms are
successful because naive users do not know enough to expect better from the
OS vendors. It becomes a religious issue.....people do not like being told
they made a bad choice....and the circumstances are self-perpetuating
because developers write software for markets where it sells...
> Esp. in
> the case of Windows; people admit that it has problems, but it lets them
> do what they want to without a lot of work. If rebooting once or twice a
> day is the price for that ease-of-use, they are apparently willing to pay
> it.
This is definitely true...but it's an ignorance factor. But, I think
that Linux is about six months from coming of age.....lots of heavy hitters
are lining up behind Linux and right now, I see this as a momentum event.
> But anyway, like I said, I agree with you, and that is why it is so
> nice to have a choice. Want power and stability? use Linux. Want ease
> of use? Use MacOS, Windows, etc. Personally, I use several operating
> systems, because each one serves a different purpose. I encourage
> everyone to make the right choice for themselves, not because someone
> else says it is right for them, as Curtis tries to do.
Don't know about Curtis. But, trying out OSs really amounts to
something most users don't have the time or resources to do. I am trying
like crazy to get some friends to give Linux a try. They have two hard
drives and an older 166Mhz Pentium processor. If I can just convince them
to use Linux for the subset of tasks that it does well, it will be a step
in the right direction. Linux will definitely give them better performance
than Windows98 as well as decent security and stability.....
>
> Tom Dominico, Jr.
>
>
Joseph Crowe
http://www.io.com/~jcrowe
email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Rob Webster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Root as raid1 - how ?
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 20:31:18 GMT
try a german howto ... http://www.pro-linux.de/ti_netzwerk/raid1.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: winmodem driver to linux
Date: 15 Sep 1999 20:40:15 GMT
In <7rotle$uql$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>who can it be that still there not a driver
>for winmodems for linux
>nobody going to write one???
All winmodems are different, so it would not be one driver but a whole
lot. Plus, the manufacturers refuse to tell anyone how to access their
winmodems-- ie what commands to send to the modem to tell it to do what
little it does. In light of that would you be willing to write one?
Would you be willing to put up say $1000 for someone to write one?
Get after your modem manufacturer and ask them why they do not write a
driver for Linux.
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From: joeh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.admin,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.misc,alt.solaris.x86
Subject: Re: Are tar tapes OS dependent?
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 16:49:06 -0400
Defdef wrote:
>
> GNU tar has the same behavior in any architecture/OS because it is the
> same program ! so you can use GNU tar tape everywhere you have GNU
> tar...
>
> frederic.
Does 'star' have the same advantage?
Up to now what i see is that GNU tar has 2 advantages:
[1] compatibility with 'tar' options, and
[2] ability to read device nodes
Joerg is saying 'star' can do both and also read 2-bit and 24-bit nodes which
(someone) said GNU cannot?
What is the foremost advantage of star over GNU tar? Can i use GNU tar on a
tape made with 'star'? Or the reverse?
--
If possible please cc: response posts to [EMAIL PROTECTED] as I do not always have
access to a news server; thanks!
Disclaimer: opinions expressed my own and not representative of my employers
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From: Jim McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: ADSL and DHCP Connectivity
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 20:55:18 GMT
A few months ago, I had a problem with my adsl connection. The same
thing occurred yesterday. My 'net access was fine, then for some
reason, I lost everything. I assume this is caused by something done by
my ISP (MTT Sympatico Mpowered). Anyway, today I configured my NIC using
a static with the IP info obtained from pump (pump --status), any I got
access right away.
I hope this is useful to someone else. It's nice to post a solution
instead of a problem.
regards
Jim McIntyre
Webmaster Program
Dalhousie University
Halifax, Nova Scotia
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From: Paul Leon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fax Server
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 13:49:25 -0700
http://www.hylafax.org/
Steve DenBleyker wrote:
> Is there a way to configure a Fax Server on RH Linux 6.0? I don't really
> want to buy a package.
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From: "John Coonrod" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: dosemu and win98?
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 16:55:21 -0400
Does anyone know if dosemu works with the "dos" within win98? Thanks.
Also - if I want to give dosemu free rein over all my whole disk, what do I
put into dosemu.conf?
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From: Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Absurd Linux mentality !
Date: 15 Sep 1999 17:57:32 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > 'visual method' would not be possible without the work of people who are
> > proficient with the command line.
> Yes, and they built 'on top of' asemblers, who built on top of hardware
> switches ....... semiconductor physics.
>
> When we only had TTY IO, cmd line was the only posibility.
> But Now ! ? NB. I'm not talking about GUI (M$ cartoon-talk), but
> SELECTION BY RECOGNITION, rather than remembering exact 'arbitrary'
> syntax.
Except that once you know the syntax, it's easier to type it in than
to try to select from a menu. Anyway, selection from menus doesn't
work too well when you're trying to express more complicated
functionality. And you still have to know (in order to recognize)
what it is you're trying to select. For example, if the exit command
is "quit", but you look for "exit", you may have to scroll a long way
down the menu to find the command.
> To the writer who wrote that the systax is NOT arbitrary:-
> whether you have: Quit, quit, Q, exit, Exit, X, Z ...... IS arbitrary.
> Menu drive, like the spread-sheets, Turbo-Pascal, Norton Comndr, and
> many Linusx applications. MC for Linux is great, but apparently little
> used because of the juvenile attitude - explained below.
But the necessary syntax is already wired into my brain from years of
use. So why should I use mc, when it simply can't do the kinds of
complex operations I perform routinely?
> >As for the 'schoolboy Linux
> > mentality', I submit that computer gurus are proud of their proficiency
> > as you would be proud of your skills if you were a concert pianist -
> Exactly. They've learned to tie their shoe laces wearing boxing-gloves
> & blind-folded. And understandably they don't want this 'proficiency'
> to be 'devalued'.
Bad analogy. When you tie your shoes, do you think of the various
individual steps you go through, or do you simply do it in one motion?
> And when I wrote 'you won't be using cmnd line, learned from the man,
> and practiced to proficiency, like scales on the piano; I don't mean
> cmnd line will not exist, but that YOU will either be dead, or have woken
> up and asked your self "should I waste my human creativity" on remembering
> whether it's Exit, quit or shit !!
What do you mean, waste my creativity? As opposed to the intricate
hand motions needed to deal with a mouse and the fine motor control
needed to scroll through menus and pick the right command?
--
Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/
Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2
Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works."
--Eric Crampton
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sean Gilley,0B206,,2336)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
Date: 15 Sep 1999 17:10:06 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Tom Dominico, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>And with the proliferation of
>sites like download.com, I have a hard time believing that most users will
>never need/want to install more than the system comes with.
>
>Tom Dominico, Jr.
An interesting point is that several of the people I know who are least
expert in computers wait for me to help them install new software.
So not everyone trusts the Win9X installer completely, nor do they believe
that it's that simple to load new software.
Would they have installed it themselves if I weren't available? Perhaps.
Maybe even probably, but the idea that everyone is comfortable with MS's
point and click installation wizards is false.
Sean.
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