Linux-Misc Digest #825, Volume #18 Sat, 30 Jan 99 15:13:12 EST
Contents:
Red Hat 5.2 FTP (Ian Dunross)
Re: Move linux to new motherboard ? (Phil Brutsche)
Re: Log Files (Jens Kristian S�gaard)
Free Recipes <Gourmet & Chili> ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
new HD installation question (Taylor Sutherland)
tin problem - loops when run from a cronjob (Tom Crane)
Re: 2 silly questions (Larry)
Re: linux help channel (Larry)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Larry)
Re: Window Maker (Paul Seelig)
Re: encrypted file system ("Michael Schmeing")
Re: encrypted file system ("Michael Schmeing")
Re: Linux and the K6-2, any problems? ("Michael Schmeing")
Re: gcc, math.h, and sqrt() function problem (Andrei A. Dergatchev)
Developing X Windows Apps for Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: swapon -s returning error (Juergen Heinzl)
DMA (Chris Leahy)
Re: Trouble with 2.2 kernel (Phil Brutsche)
Re: IntelliMouse problem with XFree86 ("John Borges")
Re: Log Files (Frank Arnold)
Re: New to Linux (Matt Kressel)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Jim Richardson)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Arthur)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Jim Richardson)
Re: Window Maker (Mykool)
Re: making backups with Zip dives (N. Richard Caldwell)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian Dunross)
Subject: Red Hat 5.2 FTP
Date: 29 Jan 1999 19:57:21 GMT
I've got the bandwidth and drive space to download the Red Hat 5.2
distribution. But which directories to d/l??
I don't need the sources. I am going to use
ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/linux/redhat/redhat-5.2/i386/.
As best I can tell I need to d/l:
ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/linux/redhat/redhat-5.2/i386/RedHat/*.*
ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/linux/redhat/redhat-5.2/i386/dosutils/*.*
ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/linux/redhat/redhat-5.2/i386/images/*.*
at the minimum, yes? That's according to the following phrase I came
accross, if I infer correctly:
"If you are mirroring to a partition or an NFS volume, you'll need to
get everything under RedHat, as well as the disk images from images
that you need for your system."
[Relevant FTP site description quote follows]
This directory is organized as follows:
/mnt/redhat
|----> RedHat
|----> RPMS -- binary packages
|----> base -- small filesystem setup archives
|----> instimage -- image used for graphical installs
|----> images -- boot and ramdisk images
[ ... ]
|----> dosutils -- installation utilities for DOS
[I'm d/l this ^ as well, to create the 2-disk boot set needed--for an
install from a hardisk partition--with rawrite.exe.]
|----> doc -- various FAQs and HOWTOs
|----> misc -- source files, install trees
|----> live -- live filesystem
|----> COPYING -- copyright information
|----> README -- this file
|----> RPM-PGP-KEY -- PGP signature for packages from Red
Hat
[As far as I can surmise, these ^ are optional, and listed in the
order of greater precedence??]
If you are mirroring to a partition or an NFS volume, you'll need to
get everything under RedHat, as well as the disk images from images
that you need for your system.
--
Much obliged
Ian Dunross
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From: Phil Brutsche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Move linux to new motherboard ?
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 13:53:56 -0600
On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, Rob wrote:
> Any issues moving an existing Linux install from one machine to another by
> simply moving the HD, Video Card, and NIC's ? Currently running RH 5.2 want
> to use a different board and processor than the one i originally installed
> it one. Actually I want to moved it from my P200 to a P100 system.
Linux could actually care less - all the important stuff (VidCard, NICs,
etc) is the same. Feel free to move at your leisure.
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Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Microsoft: "Where do you want to to today?"
Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jens Kristian S�gaard)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Log Files
Date: 30 Jan 1999 19:18:29 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeff Grossman) writes:
> files in a nice and easy format? Or maybe one that will e-mail the
> logs to me on a daily basis?
I use logwatch by Kirk Bauer. It has a homepage on:
http://www.kaybee.org/~kirk
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Jens Kristian S�gaard,
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.javascript,comp.lang.perl.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.publish.cdrom.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action
Subject: Free Recipes <Gourmet & Chili>
Date: Saturday, 30 Jan 1999 12:59:06 -0600
http://www.knownet.net/users/dietden/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Taylor Sutherland)
Subject: new HD installation question
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 18:26:01 GMT
I am quickly running out of space on my 1.5 G drive on my linux half
of my dual boot Win95/SuSE 5.3 machine. The problem comes in
installing a new HD. I have 2 IDE slots, one has the two hds (one win
and one linux) and the other has the CD and the zip drive.
How does one go about hooking up a new HD when it will surely not be
where it will eventually reside? In other words, if I hook the new
drive up where the CD is now, it will become, I suspect /dev/hdc1,
etc. So I do the magic hand waving to partition and setup the new
drive (whatever that is) and the new HD is happy to be where it is.
THEN, I disconnect it and plug it back to where the /dev/hdb drive
(the original linux drive) was and reconnect the CD. Now, assuming I
haven't changed lilo so it will still look to boot off of /dev/hdb1,
will the new drive still be convinced it is /dev/hdc (or whatever that
other slot is) and thus fail to boot or will it just automatically
figure out that it's not where it was and work smoothly... Or, for
that matter, does the drive ever know where it is, and the bios is
doing all the remembering where drives and such are?
I'm so confused...
Taylor Sutherland
Whatever it was, it wasn't my fault!
Since I hate junk mail,
replace the "booney" with "boone" to respond.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Crane)
Subject: tin problem - loops when run from a cronjob
Date: 30 Jan 99 17:57:02 GMT
Can anybody offer any suggestions on this one?
I want to run tin from a cronjob, specifically I want to to a 'rtin -c' to
give me a snapshot of new messages in subscribed newsgroups in my .newsrc
file. The problem is, any attempt to do this away from a terminal results
in a hung rtin job. It remains in tight loop (ie. consumes all available
cpu cycles) forever. If tin cannot be made to run without some sort of
terminal to read/write, are there any hacks that could be used from a
cronjob to fool it into thinking it is connected to a terminal?
I'm using version 'rtin pre-1.4 release 980226'
Thanks
Tom Crane
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Egham, Surrey, TW20 0EX, England.
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Fax: 01784 472794
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry)
Subject: Re: 2 silly questions
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 29 Jan 1999 20:47:02 GMT
>jdn wrote:
>
>> Technically, I think I am no longer a Linux newbie, given the amount of time
>> that I've been running it and the things I have learned to do with it, but I
>> keep coming to these rather basic questions, that I know I should know the
>> answers to, but don't....
>>
>> 1) In RedHat 5.1, I always used the X tool fstool to find the amount of
>> available space on my partitions. RedHat 5.2 seems to have gotten rid of
>> this tool. Bummer. Anyway, what's the CLI command to do the same thing?
>> Is it a certain switch for 'ls'?
you need to learn how to use apropos. I did:
apropos space
and the first example that came up was:
df (1) - summarize free disk space
>>
>> 2) How do you 'toggle' a file to be 'viewed' by Linux as an executable or
>> not? I have various files on my Windows partitions that I have which most
>> certainly are not executables (like configuration files), but they show up
>> in mc all nice and lime green. What's the command to remove this
>> 'attribute' so that they aren't seen as executable?
apropos permission
chmod (1) -change the access permissions of files
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry)
Subject: Re: linux help channel
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 29 Jan 1999 20:47:06 GMT
On Sat, 30 Jan 1999 00:03:51 +0000, lattin96 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have made a new linux help channel on dal net the channel is
>#linuxhelpers it is for people wanting to help or people in need of
>help.with redhat,suse,slackware or other dist.and hardware answers
>Thomas W
>
My experience with most irc channels is that most people
get on there and sit and bullshit most of the time and
DAMNED FEW questions ever get answered. Either that or you
get treated like a complete embicile, or you get ignored,
or you get insulted.
I've seen damned few help channels on irc used the way
they are supposed to be used.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 29 Jan 1999 20:47:03 GMT
On 29 Jan 1999 15:41:03 GMT, Michael C. Vergallen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 29 Jan 1999 15:10:40 GMT, Larry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>On Thu, 28 Jan 1999 09:13:18 -0600, pdohert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>We can out BOMB any other country in the world. Any arguments?
>No ... you janks seem to love that...O.T.O.H. most off the recent
>attempts to use your favorite toys where justified.
Yes siree we love 'dem bombs. Here a bomb der a bomb everywhere a bomb bomb.
Drop 'em on your head,
aim 'em under yer bed,
Got yerself a concrete bunker?
we'll aim 'em through the chimney where you hunker.
We'll find you with our sattelites
and rain 'm on yer head at night.
Fire yer flack into the air,
our high flyin' stealth don't care.
got plans to shoot our aircraft down?
we'll just send the cruise into your town.
Think you got some technology?
bring it to the battle field,
we'll see!
You people have no idea what technology is. Wait till you see the
next offering the military comes out with in smart weapons, not
to mention the next "black aircraft" project.
The latest is the f-22. The most advanced aircraft in the world.
This stuff you're talking about is ancient compaired to the technologies the
government and NASA have been developing over the past decade.
Anyone who thinks the U.S. isn't the most technologically advanced
country in the world is living in a vacuum.
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From: Paul Seelig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Window Maker
Date: 29 Jan 1999 22:41:48 +0100
"Sean Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I would be ever so grateful if you could help me out with these questions:
> (and yes I am new to Linux!!!)
>
[...]
> I'm so used to
> running setup from DOS/Windows that I feel quite lost in Linux!
>
Do yourself a favor and buy a book about Linux and read it. You'll
need it anyway. Alternatively check out the documentation under
"/usr/doc/".
Sorry for not answering your question right away but i think it's
better to teach fishing to the hungry instead of just giving them to
eat.
Cheers, P. *8^)
--
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African Music Archive - Institute for Ethnology and Africa Studies
Johannes Gutenberg-University - Forum 6 - 55099 Mainz/Germany
------------------- http://ntama.uni-mainz.de --------------------
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From: "Michael Schmeing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: encrypted file system
Date: 30 Jan 1999 14:12:10 +0100
"Norm Dresner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> You need a password to get onto the machine (if it's set up properly), why
> do you need to password-protect the files too?
> [...]
My answer to this question is simple: I have some files on ZIP-disks,
that I want to *really* protect from others. Just using the ext2-fs is
no real protection because anyone with a system able to read ext2 just
looks at the disks as root and can do anything. So if they were
encrypted they would not be able to make any sense of it.
By the way: Just read-protect the disk with the ZIP-tools would be a
sollution for ZIP-disks only, there are other removable medias out
there that one could want to protect (ever heard of these good old
floppy disks still in every PC? :).
Michael
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e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
www: http://www.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE/~michae2
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From: "Michael Schmeing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: encrypted file system
Date: 30 Jan 1999 14:16:38 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Dickopp) writes:
> Hi,
>
> Tim wants an encrypted file system, so I really don't understand why
> everyone here seems to try to convince him NOT to use an encrypted
> file system.
>
> There ARE good reasons why one would want to encrypt files, and Unix
> access permissions are no replacement for encryption. Everyone with
> physical access to the machine can become `root', steal the hard disc,
> etc., but it takes FAR more effort to break the encryption.
Good point. Anyway the Unix access permissions (and any other sort of
permissions like ACL (Access Controll Lists) that work without
encryption) only work on non-removable media (and that only, as you
point out as long as the media is not forcefully removed and the
system is at the maximum security).
Michael
--
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e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
www: http://www.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE/~michae2
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From: "Michael Schmeing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux and the K6-2, any problems?
Date: 30 Jan 1999 14:21:55 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeremy Smith) writes:
> I just bought a new motherboard and a K6-2 300. I've seen some posts in
> this newsgroup about random problems with K6 CPUs and Linux, but the
> Linux HOWTO index does not have any definitive information.
>
> Are there any problems running Linux on the AMD K6-2 processors? Is
> there anything special I must do to the kernel to get proper CPU support?
>
I have been running an AMD K6-2 350 with 100MHz front-side bus without
problems for some month now. So even if I saw the headers of these
posts about problems, I never read them.
When I compile a kernel I just choose a Pentium-style CPU and thats
it.
Michael
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e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
www: http://www.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE/~michae2
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrei A. Dergatchev)
Subject: Re: gcc, math.h, and sqrt() function problem
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 19:14:44 GMT
Hi,
You need to link math library.
You compile (and link) using gcc sqrt4.c, right ?
Add "-lm"":
gcc -lm sqrt4.c
Andrei
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development
Subject: Developing X Windows Apps for Linux
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 19:57:09 GMT
Dear Linux Users:
I am interested in writing applications for Linux operating system. I would
like your expert opinions on where to start. I will install Linux shortly and
would like to know the following:
1) Is XFree86 same thing as Motif Window Manager? If not, what is the
difference?
2) Would it be necessary to buy MWM ($100) to display X Windows Applications?
3) Which C++ GUI toolkit do I use: Amulet, Qt, Cde, OSF/Motif, Powerbuilder,
or V toolkit?
Thank you in advance for all suggestions.
Ash
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: swapon -s returning error
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 21:32:01 GMT
In article <78t1gm$1km$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Mike,
>
>Yes, swapon has been run. I've flagged the partition as swap, I've added the
>proper entry to fstab, i've run mkswap, I've run swapon. I've done this
>before several times with no trouble. Here is fstab:
>
>/dev/hda3 / ext2 defaults 1 1
>/dev/hda1 swap swap 0 0
>#/dev/hda2 swap swap
>none /proc proc defaults 1 1
(*) swapon -s does complain about no /proc/swaps if there is none
and with kernel 2.0.36 and below this is the case. From the docs ...
not before 2.1.25 probably.
[...]
>This tells me that everything should work, but the swap space is being added
>with a -1 priority. I'm curious, does it matter if the partition which holds
>my / filesystem isn't in the first part of my disk? Here's my partition
>table:
(*) see man 2 swapon for more; if your man pages are up to date, that is. If
not, your next LDP mirror will be of help and the latest version is
man-pages-1.22. You can specify swapflags in the fstab, although with
just one partition it does not make much sense.
With more than one a./o. swapfiles you can tell the system which area
to prefer to speed things up. In short, no reason to worry about the -1
priority, it has nothing to do with your disk layout and is not an error
or sign for "trouble ahead".
Cheers,
Juergen
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From: Chris Leahy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: DMA
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 19:16:01 +0000
Hi all,
I have recently compiled and installed the 2.2.1 kernel.
I get several messages from the kernel at boot that I cant find an
answer for.
( excerpt )
PCI_IDE: unknown IDE controller on PCI bus 00 device 78, VID=10b9,
DID=5229
PCI_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
PCI_IDE: simplex device: DMA disabled
ide0: PCI_IDE Bus-Master DMA disabled (BIOS)
PCI_IDE: simplex device: DMA disabled
ide1: PCI_IDE Bus-Master DMA disabled (BIOS)
I have an ASUS P5A-B motherboard with the Ali 1541 AGP chip and Ali 1543
super I/O controller chip.
I see that the kernel obviously does not support this chipset.
The closest it comes in the configuration is under "other ide chipsets"
with
Ali 14xx
I tried this but the kernel says
Ali14xx not found.
Not surprising since its the wrong chipset but I thought I'd try it
anyway.
The question is....
Has anyone else found this problem and is there a soloution
and does anyone know if support for this chipset will be in kernel
releases in the near future?
Thanks for any help
Chris
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From: Phil Brutsche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Trouble with 2.2 kernel
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 15:29:11 -0600
On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, theoddone33 wrote:
> Hi,
[snip]
> as I had left out support for my hard drive. Will a "make bzImage" likely
> fix my problems?
It certainly wouldn't hurt...
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Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Microsoft: "Where do you want to to today?"
Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?"
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From: "John Borges" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: IntelliMouse problem with XFree86
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 16:18:26 -0500
Also, dont forget to disable the "Emulate 3rd Button" option in XF86Config
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Arnold)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Log Files
Date: 30 Jan 1999 19:15:56 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Try: logwatch-1.6.3-1.noarch.rpm
Don't remember exactly where I got it, maybe Red Hat contrib.
Frank Arnold
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On Sat, 30 Jan 1999 17:44:12 GMT, Jeff Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello,
>
>Is there a program out there that will allow me to read all of my log
>files in a nice and easy format?
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.redhat,at.linux,comp.os.linux.help
From: Matt Kressel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New to Linux
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 21:25:13 GMT
Gaea wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm about to install RedHat 5.2 on my p2 450 computer. Is there anything I
> need to know before I install it? I have a 14.4GB HD and I'm going to put
> Linux on a seprate partion. I would also like to know how do I boot between
> 2 Operating Systems. Can Windows 98 and Linux coexist?
>
Linux has trouble booting if it is beyond the 1024th cylinder. It can
be done, but read the docs first. They suggest creating a 5MB boot
partition for a boot loader and the Linux kernel (if you have a big
drive). They both can coexist, and do so nicely from the Linux side.
You can read the windows files under Linux and do as you please with
them (Note windows can't see the linux partions without special
software). LILO, the Linux boot loader will let you boot both systems.
> BTW, Is this OS easy to learn?
Easy, probably not. Worthwhile, definitely. Once you realize that you
have FULL control over your OS, the alternatives seem less than
appealing. %)
A good starting point is the Linux Doc Project at:
http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP
-Matt
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: 30 Jan 1999 19:24:08 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 29 Jan 1999 19:48:25 GMT,
[EMAIL PROTECTED], in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>In the sacred domain of comp.os.linux.misc didst Arthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> eloquently
>scribe:
>: We Americans may be stupid, but you Brits would be
>: singing "God Save the Queen" auf Deutsch without us. :)
>
>They always come up with that old chestnut, even though it's blatantly
>untrue.
>
>There was actually a program on TV last night about Turing and decoding the
>enigma.
>
>We intercepted a coded message about a german fleet of submarines heading
>for the east coast of the USA, *WARNED* the USA about "operation drumbeat",
>and gave them all the info they needed to avoid or defeat the threat...
>
>And guess what happened....
>The US navy chose to totally ignore it, and ALLOW 500 ships to be sunk.
>(Lying to the people about "Oh, we destroyed another U-Boat today... when
>none were actually destroyed.)
>
Probably for the same reason that the bombing of Coventry? Colechester?
can't remember, was not interfered with. The govt knew that the Luftwaffe
were coming, they knew the target, and they knew that if the whole
RAF was there to meet the German bombers, the Germans would know that the
British had cracked enigma. So Churchill ordered that no special actions
be taken.
Ah, It was Coventry...
Course, it could simply have been the USN being dain bramaged. Wasn't
unkown.
>
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From: Arthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 14:53:18 -0800
Arthur wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Your point?
>
> This is a fairly silly game.
Just as an after thought, you should take a look
at some of the TV shows or books by James Burke
(The Day the Universe Changed, Connections).
Eventually you can trace this all back to the
first ape who cut himself on a sharp rock.
Just to forestall any accusations of bias,
Burke is British, or at least he talks funny.
Arthur
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: 30 Jan 1999 19:24:10 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 29 Jan 1999 01:10:44 -0500,
Mike Werner, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus wrote:
>> The US military must recruit from US nationals. The reason for this
>> should be
>> fairly obvious.
>
>Care to lay odds on that? If so, I'll see if I still have the addreses
>of some of the folks I served with while in the US Navy. I do remember
>that at least one was from the Subic Bay area of the Philippines. I
>believe the others were from down around Manila. But they each were
>still citizens of the Philippines, not the US.
Actually. as part of the treaty the US had with the Philipines prior to
WWII, the philipinos were American Nationals, not citizens, but not
considered foreigners for the purposes of NOFORN etc.
--
Jim Richardson
Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.
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From: Mykool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Window Maker
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 21:40:54 +0000
Sean Wilson wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone!
>
> I downloaded Window Maker last night, my question is this:
Good choice. After a few days of trying out as many window managers
that I could find I decided to stay with Window Maker.
> 1)How does the tar file format work?
>
> 2)How do I uncompress it?
If it is a *.tgz or *.tar.gz file use "tar -zxf <packagename>". If it
is just a tar use "tar -xf <packagename>. Or you could use "gunzip
<packagename>" and "tar -xf <packagename>.
> 3)How do I actually go about installing programs in Linux? I'm so used to
> running setup from DOS/Windows that I feel quite lost in Linux!
>
> I'm running Redhat Linux 5.
Since you are using Red Hat try to look for RPM's. Then just use "rpm
-ivh <packagename>" to install and "rpm -Uvh <packagename>" to upgrade.
If it's in a tar ball read the "readme" or "install" file.
Try http://rufus.w3.org/linux/RPM/ to find different rpm's.
>
> Thanks a zillion!
>
> Sean
Michael Barnhill
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gte294f
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (N. Richard Caldwell)
Subject: Re: making backups with Zip dives
Date: 29 Jan 1999 21:46:48 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Neil Zanella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Hello,
>
>I am wondering whether it is OK to simply do a mk2efs /dev/sda on
>
>a parallel port Zip drive, and back up studd with cp after mounting
>
>with mount -t ext2 /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip ?
It depends on how much stuff you need to backup. I don't even
bother with that, I mount it as a vfat drive and store the
files into a gzipped tar file.
>What's the best way to make backups? Are there any advantages to using
>bru to do this? Is what I am doing safe?
I do a "find" on a list of directories that I want to backup and create a
list of files for backup. Then pass that list to tar to create a backup
file. The first time I do this it makes about a 30 Meg tarball.
Each time after that I limit the "find" to files that have been changed
since that last tarball. Usually that only amounts to a few meg so a
single ZIP disk is good for quite a few backups. The only downside to
this I can think of is that you may have to go through a few tar files
to find the file you're looking for if you need to restore an individual
file.
This works great for me, your mileage may vary.
--
N. Richard Caldwell
Lucent Technologies
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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