Linux-Misc Digest #828, Volume #21 Wed, 15 Sep 99 21:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: *nix vs. MS security (Johannes Nix)
can't load msdos module!? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: ADSL and DHCP Connectivity ("Cowles, Steve")
MAC-PC ethernet link help? [linux<->eXodus] (Roger Jacques)
Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: REQ: The fastest Window Manager for a slow Laptop? (Big Daddy)
Re: Favorite Editor? (Dustin Puryear)
Re: AutoPPP and assigning ip numbers based on port! (Dustin Puryear)
Re: raw CD copy : how ? (Brian Hall)
Re: "Freeware" vs. GPL (Spike!)
Thursday 16 September 1999: Linux Kernel Birthday Bash ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: winmodem driver to linux (Spike!)
Re: Converting MS-Word to other formats under Linux (Bill Unruh)
Re: What is RAMDAC? (Grant Edwards)
Re: Favorite Editor? (Allen Ashley)
REQ: The fastest Window Manager for a slow Laptop? (David Rabanus)
Re: Macromedia Director (shockwave)..urgent.. ("Anonymous")
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From: Johannes Nix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: *nix vs. MS security
Date: 16 Sep 1999 01:43:27 +0200
Anthony Valentine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > free and everyone has access to it, it's less secure. Random people can
> > > hack into a *nix system easier because they can figure out the interrupts
> > > and stuff, since it's a free OS.
> >
The fact that your know the interrupts does not give you access to the
system. In fact the only thing that has to be secret are the
passwords. And the should be "good" passwords which do not appear in
any dictionary in the world.
It is sure that one can inspect the OS code and find security
holes. Every software has bugs and the Linux kernel with 1.5 million
lines of code is not free from that. But new bugs are fixed very
rapidly.
At the other hand side, you can buy entire books which tell lots of
security-relevant bugs for MS-Windows or UNIX Systems, which have not
been fixed for years. One example is the "fragmented IP packet bug"
which affected all the last Windows versions.
There is running a contest with a Windows 2000 server which MS has
publicitly invited to attack. As answer to that, also a Linux system
was set up.
Guess which system was a number of hours down the first two days?
I think also that this depends much on the skill, experience and time
of the person which sets up Linux.
Johannes
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: can't load msdos module!?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 15 Sep 1999 19:34:52 -0400
Just installed Slackware 4.0 on a 486/33, 8M, 2.2.6 kernel (low-end
used machine for a small project).
I compiled a kernel with msdos support as modules: fat.o, msdos.o and
vfat.o (but not umsdos.o).
make modules, make modules_install, reboot, and depmod -a
looked good. then: modprobe msdos
and I got
/lib/modules/.../msdos.o: unresolved symbol is_binary
yet depmod didn't give me any warnings about this (it did give me a
warning about ipv6 but I think that's unrelated). I tried manually
loading fat.o, that went OK but msdos.o still won't load.
I tried:
nm fat.o | grep is_binary
and got
00003ff0 T is_binary
which I guess means the symbol is there in fat.o. So something's not
right here. Anyone have any ideas?
tia,
Judah [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Cowles, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: ADSL and DHCP Connectivity
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 17:43:53 -0500
Although I admire your attempt to post a solution, I don't believe you have thought
about
the long term impact of what you have done at your end by configuring your system for
static IP assignment, along with the impact of others adopting your solution.
Before long, your "lease" on that IP address will "expire" with the DHCP server that
your
ISP is running. (pump --status will print the "lease" information that you ethernet
card
has for that IP address). But once that lease expires, that IP address goes back into
the
pool of "available" IP addresses for the next ISP user attempting to connect over
ADSL. At
that time, there will be duplicate IP addresses attempting to access the internet with
different MAC addresses. Trust me, your ISP will eventually figure this out and knock
one
of you off their system because of complaints. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to
figure
out that the DHCP registered MAC/IP address is valid and the other is the culprit. In
short, your system will be knocked off by your ISP.
If I was you, I would be trying to work with your ISP in trying to resolve why your
system is unable to work when configured for DHCP assignment. Eventually, what you have
done (going static) is going to backfire on you.
You might want to take a look at "man dhcpd" and "man pump" There is some good
information
contained in the manuals, especially on "theory of operation" with regards to DHCP.
Steve Cowles
SWCowles at gte dot net
Jim McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> A few months ago, I had a problem with my adsl connection. The same
> thing occurred yesterday. My 'net access was fine, then for some
> reason, I lost everything. I assume this is caused by something done by
> my ISP (MTT Sympatico Mpowered). Anyway, today I configured my NIC using
> a static with the IP info obtained from pump (pump --status), any I got
> access right away.
> I hope this is useful to someone else. It's nice to post a solution
> instead of a problem.
> regards
>
> Jim McIntyre
> Webmaster Program
> Dalhousie University
> Halifax, Nova Scotia
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roger Jacques)
Subject: MAC-PC ethernet link help? [linux<->eXodus]
Date: 15 Sep 1999 18:48:37 GMT
I need advice installing Ethernet between a PowerMac and a PC. The
Powermac has an Ethernet port and I have installed an ISA Ethernet
card (an E2000Tplus which is NE2000 compatible).
Since the cable will be going directly from machine to machine will
I need a "cross-over cable?" If so, are they readily available? Are
they the equivalent of a null modem in a serial connection?
The Ethernet card on the PC will be connecting Linux
(with X-windows installed) to eXodus on the Mac. On the Mac I was
able to get a hex address number for the card (xx xx xx xx xx xx - sorry
I don't have the specific number with me). The Red Hat Linux manual
says that in netcfg there is a place to insert the address of the
recipient machine. Should this be in standard dotted decimal or is
there a way to insert the hex number?
Which is easier to install and use -- REXEC or RSH, since there is
no password security problem here and there will be only one
connection/one user from the Mac eXodus?
Is there an NE2000 driver installed when I installed Red Hat Linux
or will I have to install and load a module? How do I find out?
How do I activate either REXEC or RSH?
How do I determine the card address of the NE2000 Ethernet card
and where
do I need to use it?
In th etc/hosts file can I use the hex number or will it have to be
converted to dotted decimal?
In other words, I really need help on about every step of the installation
process, since Ethernet is brand new to me. I have tried the Linux
HOWTO's but it's all Greek to me; it seems to understand any part of it
you have to already know all the rest.
Detailed, specific help would be a great assistance.
I would appreciate it if any reply came not only to this posting, but also
to my private mail address:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Roger Jacques
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 00:06:29 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Dominico, Jr.) wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in <7rmd63$4ag$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
-- snip --
> >Because there would be, for example, an Icon on the KDE desktop which
> >launched KRPM, for installing software.
> >
> >Point and click. Just as the MS-Cheerleaders proclaim it must be
> >done.
>
> For the millionth time, no one is insisting that it _MUST_ be done
> that way...
This is just plain wrong . . . you must be new here.
-- snip --
> I guess your plan is for every home user to hire a sysadmin so that
> they can install Quicken, or update their browser/office suite/etc...
No, my "plan" is for people to understand a directory tree, and other
***BASICS*** of computing, so they can install with intelligence.
A computer is a tool. In every other trade, a tool's user is expected to
understand the tool(s) of his/her trade. But not with computers. No
siree, that's "elitism."
-- snip --
> what happens at update time? And with the proliferation of sites
> like download.com, I have a hard time believing that most users
> will never need/want to install more than the system comes with.
How many *ordinary* end-users d/l files from the internet? How many
**completely computer-ignorant** end-users do? How many "I don't wanna
know NUTHIN about computers" end-users do?
And what kind of results do each class of end-users typically get?
-- snip --
> Your argument is against the whole concept of point-and-click.
No, my argument is against blatant, willful, actively-sought ignorance.
> What I am saying (if you would listen) is that there is a place for
> _BOTH_ point-and-click, CLI, etc.
And if *you* would listen, you would notice that I never claimed CLI to
be superior to GUI. Never even implied as much.
You misunderstand the phrase, "mindlessly click thru a wizard." You jump
to the erroneous conclusion that I prefer using a CLI to install. No. I
prefer "intelligently clicking thru a wizard."
That's it. In a proverbial nutshell.
-- [well-meaning, but misinformed rant snipped] --
Curtis
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: Big Daddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,de.comp.os.unix.linux.newusers,de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc
Subject: Re: REQ: The fastest Window Manager for a slow Laptop?
Date: 16 Sep 1999 00:20:09 GMT
Well, I did the same as you, and didn't enjoy Gnome's speed on my P200.
So, I used KDE whenever I started, and it seemed a little cooler; ran
faster, etc. Well, I eventually totally screwed my system (as every good
newbie should), and just decided to say to hell w/it, and re-format and
re-install. This time, a little more knowledgeable about it, didn't even
INSTALL Gnome/E/whatever. Just KDE.
I've also heard Blackbox is very small, quick, though obviously a few less
frills. (A buddy of mine uses that on his slackware system). Anyhow.
Hope that helps.
--
Big Daddy
The law will never make men free; it is men who have got to make the
law free.
-- Henry David Thoreau
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dustin Puryear)
Subject: Re: Favorite Editor?
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 19:37:43 GMT
On 14 Sep 1999 22:08:31 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter
Schaffter) wrote:
>>> I am looking for a full screen editor for Linux that doesn't suck.
>
>Here's the weird thing. I went through the search for the
>perfect editor when I migrated from DOS to Linux. I'd been
>using something called VisionEdit (vedit), and it was a joy.
>Nothing in Linux seemed quite right, although Fedit came close,
>both in look and feel. Problem was, it had a few bugs at the
>time, and I couldn't get 'em fixed without a lot of effort.
I remember using Aurora for DOS. Now that was a nice editor.
---
Dustin Puryear
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dustin Puryear)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: AutoPPP and assigning ip numbers based on port!
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 19:39:37 GMT
On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 14:51:37 -0400, "Pat Crean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Anything wrong with options.ttyS0, options.ttyS1, etc???
Okay, the million dollar question is.. how do I have AutoPPP use the
appropriate options file? (This is the same question posted in the
original message.)
>
>
>Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> It's simple enough to enable AutoPPP and allow Windows DUN users to
>> dial-in with PAP. However, to make the process simple for the remote
>> user the system needs to autoassign an ip address to each PPP client.
>> I realize this can be done within the options file like so:
>>
>> aa.bb.cc.dd:ww.xx.yy.zz
>>
>> where aa.bb.cc.dd is the server and ww.xx.yy.zz is the client. But how
>> does this work with AutoPPP? I can only specify one options file for
>> AutoPPP to call when bringing up pppd, so how can I assign an ip
>> address to each port?
>>
>> Better yet, is there a better way? Any help or advise would be greatly
>> appreciated!
>> ---
>> Dustin Puryear
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
---
Dustin Puryear
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Hall)
Subject: Re: raw CD copy : how ?
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 23:53:36 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hmmm, yes. But what about a mixed mode (data & music, etc) CD? Is there some
combination of dd and a CD writing utility that will do a *bit-by-bit* copy
of the CD, regardless of the format or contents of the original CD, all at
once? Sorta like a "copy disk" command. (BTW, I use xcdroast for data and
custom music CDs).
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Adrian Hands wrote:
>Xavier SERPAGGI wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Does anyone of you know about a little software able to dump a CD image
>> in order to burn it back with something like cdrecord ?
>> I mean a software just like cdrwin or similar on windows (sorry ;). With
>> or without graphics interface.
>
>For a data CD: mkisofs
>For a audio CD: cdparanoia
--
Brian Hall
Linux Consultant
Never call a man a fool. Instead, borrow from him.
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From: Spike! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "Freeware" vs. GPL
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 20:04:03 +0100
And verily, didst Matthew Bafford <*@dragons.duesouth.net> eloquently scribe:
> On 15 Sep 1999 01:56:07 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Tennent) enriched us
> with:
> : Unless you use the code of GPLed development tools in your
> : software, you are not required to GPL your software. For example,
> : you can use gcc to compile proprietary software.
> Be careful, though. Until recently Bison required you to distribute your
> software under the GPL.
What about YACC? (There's always an alternative... )
--
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| in |good to you so far... |
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: nyc.seminars,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Thursday 16 September 1999: Linux Kernel Birthday Bash
Date: 16 Sep 1999 00:25:26 GMT
We will celebrate the 8th birthday of the Linux kernel, the most popular
free kernel in the world, on Thursday 16 September 1999 at AboveNet,
second floor of 111 Eighth Avenue, near 16th Street on the Island of
Manhattan. Full details below in the NYLUG announcement.
The weather will be cool with intense showers of schwag every half hour.
This party begins at 3:00 pm and all are invited.
Teachers and students and librarians and businessfolk and those who still
run, or are required to run, source secret OSes are particularly welcome.
We should be delighted to have any serious sceptics come and explain why
what they see before them does not exist.
The Linux kernel, the GNU environment and tools, the X Window system,
several window managers, compilers and interpreters, games, web servers
and browsers, email programs, and more will be demonstrated.
Jim Gleason, Ari Jort, and Barry Hughes are lead workers on this event.
AboveNet and VA Linux have pitched in and generously provided space and
bandwidth and machines,
For some history of the early days of Linux see
http://www.sslug.dk/artikler/linux_history_1.html
Here is the 5 October 1991 announcement that the Linux kernel is available
on the net.
<blockquote>
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linus Benedict Torvalds)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: Free minix-like kernel sources for 386-AT
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 5 Oct 91 05:41:06 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki
Do you pine for the nice days of minix-1.1, when men were men and wrote
their own device drivers? Are you without a nice project and just dying
to cut your teeth on a OS you can try to modify for your needs? Are you
finding it frustrating when everything works on minix? No more all-
nighters to get a nifty program working? Then this post might be just
for you :-)
As I mentioned a month(?) ago, I'm working on a free version of a
minix-lookalike for AT-386 computers. It has finally reached the stage
where it's even usable (though may not be depending on what you want),
and I am willing to put out the sources for wider distribution. It is
just version 0.02 (+1 (very small) patch already), but I've successfully
run bash/gcc/gnu-make/gnu-sed/compress etc under it.
Sources for this pet project of mine can be found at nic.funet.fi
(128.214.6.100) in the directory /pub/OS/Linux. The directory also
contains some README-file and a couple of binaries to work under linux
(bash, update and gcc, what more can you ask for :-). Full kernel
source is provided, as no minix code has been used. Library sources are
only partially free, so that cannot be distributed currently. The
system is able to compile "as-is" and has been known to work. Heh.
Sources to the binaries (bash and gcc) can be found at the same place in
/pub/gnu.
ALERT! WARNING! NOTE! These sources still need minix-386 to be compiled
(and gcc-1.40, possibly 1.37.1, haven't tested), and you need minix to
set it up if you want to run it, so it is not yet a standalone system
for those of you without minix. I'm working on it. You also need to be
something of a hacker to set it up (?), so for those hoping for an
alternative to minix-386, please ignore me. It is currently meant for
hackers interested in operating systems and 386's with access to minix.
The system needs an AT-compatible harddisk (IDE is fine) and EGA/VGA. If
you are still interested, please ftp the README/RELNOTES, and/or mail me
for additional info.
I can (well, almost) hear you asking yourselves "why?". Hurd will be
out in a year (or two, or next month, who knows), and I've already got
minix. This is a program for hackers by a hacker. I've enjouyed doing
it, and somebody might enjoy looking at it and even modifying it for
their own needs. It is still small enough to understand, use and
modify, and I'm looking forward to any comments you might have.
I'm also interested in hearing from anybody who has written any of the
utilities/library functions for minix. If your efforts are freely
distributable (under copyright or even public domain), I'd like to hear
from you, so I can add them to the system. I'm using Earl Chews estdio
right now (thanks for a nice and working system Earl), and similar works
will be very wellcome. Your (C)'s will of course be left intact. Drop me
a line if you are willing to let me use your code.
Linus ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
PS. to PHIL NELSON! I'm unable to get through to you, and keep getting
"forward error - strawberry unknown domain" or something.
</blockquote>
Project GNU continues work on the Hurd, which today actually boots. The
three free BSD kernels are another line of development of free kernels.
There are several free real time kernels, and recently, at least one free
Scheme which boots on the metal.
http://www.tunes.org/Review/OSes.html
Jay Sulzberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Corresponding Secretary LXNY
LXNY is New York's Free Computing Organization.
http://www.lxny.org
From: Jim Gleason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: New York's Linux Demo Days - Sept. 16th
*** New York's Linux Demo Days Event ***
Date: 9/16/99
Time: 3pm-8pm
Location: AboveNet Datacenter, 111 8th Ave. @ 16th St., 2nd floor,
tel 212-744-8717
The Linux Demo Day project (www.linuxdemo.org) is a joint international
effort amongst Linux User Groups to demonstrate the Linux Operating System
at locations around the world during the week of September 13th-17th.
Here in New York City, NYLUG (The New York Linux Users Group), LXNY
(NY's Free Software Users Group), and LUNY (Linux Users of New York) are
holding the event in conjunction with VA Linux Systems and AboveNet this
Thursday, Sept. 16th from 3pm-8pm.
AboveNet is providing space at their brand new datacenter in Chelsea and
VA Linux Systems (www.valinux.com) is providing Linux workstations.
WHAT ARE THE LINUX DEMOS?
* an all-day game of networked Quake
* streaming a full-length feature film
* surfing the Web on killer OC-48 lines.
Hope to see you there!
- Jim
========================================================================
Jim Gleason VA Linux Systems
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.valinux.com
phone: 718-858-4349 Pres. New York Linux Users Group
fax: 718-858-4242 http://www.nylug.org
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From: Spike! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: winmodem driver to linux
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 23:45:52 +0100
And verily, didst [EMAIL PROTECTED] eloquently scribe:
> who can it be that still there not a driver
> for winmodems for linux
Nope. There isn't. And as there are 5000 different types of winmodem that
would probably require 5000 seperate drivers, there's really no point in
trying. Especially when the hardware manufacturers choose to be so
uncooperative...
Besides, winmodems are a total waste of space and processor time.
(Why not make your sound card produce the modem sounds? It's the same
principle)
> nobody going to write one???
I doubt it...
--
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| Andrew Halliwell BSc | "ARSE! GERLS!! DRINK! DRINK! DRINK!!!" |
| in | "THAT WOULD BE AN ECUMENICAL MATTER!...FECK!!!!|
| Computer Science | - Father Jack in "Father Ted" |
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|PS+++ PE- Y t+ 5++ X+/X++ R+ tv+ b+ DI+ D+ G e++ h/h+ !r!| Space for hire |
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: Converting MS-Word to other formats under Linux
Date: 16 Sep 1999 00:35:54 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Spike! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>And verily, didst Neil Zanella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> eloquently scribe:
>> Is it possible to convert MS-Word to other formats like Corel Word
>> Perfect, LaTeX, etc... under Linux (or other OSs but preferably Linux)
>> with commercial or free software?
>> Does Corel WP for Linux do this?
Word Perfect does Word 2 2a 2b 6 7
Mind you I have a number of Word 2b files which the translator just
gives up on. Not sure why, since they seem no different from others
which work.
Staroffice claims to do Word 6/95
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From: grant@nowhere. (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: What is RAMDAC?
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 19:25:53 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Grant Edwards wrote:
>In article <MPG.1249716175d53856989ac0@news>, Jon Skeet wrote:
>>grant@nowhere. wrote:
>
>>> If you're doing 4,8,16 bit video, the RAMDAC takes the value
>>> and uses it as an index into a color table that yields three
>>> digital values (one each for Red Green and Blue).
>>
>>Are you sure about 16 bit? I thought it was usually done in 5/5/6
>>"truecolour"... but I could well be wrong :)
>
>Hmm, now that you mention it -- no, I'm not sure about 16 bits.
After putzing around a bit, it appears you are correct. 16 bit
mode uses 5/6/5. The only machine I use 16 bit mode on runs NT
most of the time (with a VNC server). The VNC viewer tells you
all sorts of interesting things when you start it:
Connected to VNC server, using protocol version 3.3
VNC server default format:
16 bits per pixel.
Least significant byte first in each pixel.
True colour: max red 31 green 63 blue 31, shift red 11 green 5 blue 0
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! MERYL STREEP is my
at obstetrician!
visi.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Allen Ashley)
Subject: Re: Favorite Editor?
Date: 15 Sep 1999 20:16:21 GMT
There is no programming project more rewarding than writing your
own editor. I have ported mine through several languages and
several different operating systems for over 25 years. Good fun,
and very handy: you need never bitch about to anyone.
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From: David Rabanus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,de.comp.os.unix.linux.newusers,de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc
Subject: REQ: The fastest Window Manager for a slow Laptop?
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 17:12:04 -0700
Hi folks,
I wonder which window manager might be the fastest on a Compaq Laptop
(Presario 1215, 24MB RAM, 180 MHz). I have installed RedHat 6.0 (Kernel
2.2.5-15smp) and it automatically installed the window manager
"enlightenment" and "gnome" (although I don't understand what tasks each of
those exactly fulfill). Anyway: I turns out that this system is VERY slow.
Even slower than Windows 95. But that - of course - wasn't the reason to
switch over to linux. When I try to change the window manager in the "GNOME
Control Center" it doesn't seem to remember that when I "startx" the next
time. But it doesn't offer me the option to save that new configuration.
Now: Probably that also depends on the distribution I have.
What is the recommendation for the slimmest/fastest linux
version/distribution/window manager that should be used?
Which window manager does NOT use a thousand bitmaps to display its window
corners and radio buttons and so on?
In my experience the trend goes to still fancier desktops with a thousand
different gimmicks and gizmos constantly sucking memory and cpu time and
that sucks (literally :-). I just want to know how to SWITCH them off. I
hope that this doesn't impair the good reputation of linux being an
efficient system.
Thanks in advance - Dave.
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From: "Anonymous" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Macromedia Director (shockwave)..urgent..
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 00:18:52 GMT
Check this out then. :)
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Labyrinth/5084/flash.html
denfung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I wonder does it possible to run shockwave in Linux OS. If possible, it
run
> on Nestcape or Internet Explorer? Please give some guides on how to
> implement it. And how the shockwave Plug-in works in Linux browser?
>
> Please mail me (or cc) instead of post the reply to the newsgroup. I have
> post this news to so many newsgroup so it is really trouble for me to
check
> from one newsgroup to another. Hope can receive your reply soon.
>
> Thanks...
>
>
> Mohan Namasivayam
>
>
>
>
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