Linux-Misc Digest #828, Volume #25 Thu, 21 Sep 00 18:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: Cyrillic fonts in Netscape (Andrei Pushkarev)
Re: ip masq. trouble ("Axel Scheepers")
good mail/news client (Martijn Brouwer)
Re: Making XDM work like startx --bpp16 (Dances With Crows)
Re: Porting of sam editor to Linux ("John Bates")
Interested in learning more about Curses in Python ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: End-User Alternative to Windows ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: rar problems ("Axel Scheepers")
test2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
test3 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Generic Configure Problem ("Lonni J. Friedman")
anon-ftp RPM ("Bernd Oliver Christiansen")
Re: End-User Alternative to Windows (Roberto Alsina)
Re: linux screws up windoze filesystem ? ("Axel Scheepers")
Re: shutting down a process at shutdown (Ernst-Udo Wallenborn)
Re: Sound Card (Marc Wilson)
Re: Telnet login delayed (Sun Ju)
Re: End-User Alternative to Windows ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Help: Kernel hang/coredump analysis (WATM)
DVD instead of CD reader ? (Augusto Cardoso)
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From: Andrei Pushkarev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cyrillic fonts in Netscape
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 13:18:53 -0400
Kevin,
I think that cyrillic fonts are already hooked -
I can read russian pages in any encoding. Problem
is I need to type in cyrillic symbols in Netscape
forms and I cannot do that.
Command "rpm -qa | grep XFree86" gives the answer:
XFree86-cyrillic-fonts-3.3.5-3
So, cyrillic is presumably available.
I am using RedHat 6.1, Netscape 4.72 under Gnome.
I tried to set up international keyboard from
KDE tools and switch to alternative keyboard with
the help of "hot" key, but still cannot getting
cyrillic symbols.
Andrei
Kevin Croxen wrote:
>
> You probably need to start by getting a set of koi8 Russian fonts. These
> fonts, plus instructions as to how to install them in X (and probably
> everything else you ever wanted to know about koi8 fonts) are to be found
> at:
>
> http://koi8.pp.ru
>
> Once they have been installed in X, in Netscape's preferences and under
> "fonts" indicate the koi8 fonts for the encoding "cyrillic", and you
> should be in business. They seem to work quite well, though I find I
> frequently have to hit "reload" in Netscape on a Russian page before
> Netscape realizes that the page is cyrillic and that it should be loading
> the appropriate fonts. But this of course is a Netscape glitch and not a
> problem with the font set itself.
>
> Regards,
>
> --Kevin
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andrei Pushkarev wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >I am trying to fill the forms in Netscape with
> >cyrillic letters, it doesn't work. I am using RedHat 6.1
> >
> >Please give the pointer.
> >
> > Thanks, Andrei
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From: "Axel Scheepers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ip masq. trouble
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 22:26:53 +0200
Hello,
It works by now, I really should be more specific next time. The problem was
related to windows (as always ;-) , it didn't set the gateway right when I
used the GUI controls (Yak! --Is this a know problem??) but i had to use
route add 0.0.0.0 mask 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.5 -p to make it remember were it
must sent those requests!
But now .... I want to use diald to connect to the internet whenever needed.
I've set it all up and looked my current config over for a 1000x, browsed
every page about it (that i know of) and even posted a message about it:
Whenever diald starts 1) wvdial --chat or 2) chat it somehow goes wrong with
the acces right (i think).
when I use wvdial it can't open my /dev/modem or /dev/ttyS0 and when I use
chat I get a *very* strange error: Can't get terminal parameters: Invalid
argument
Nobody seems to know what goes wrong here. When I start all the scripts by
hand everything works fine. I also tried to fiddle with the acces rights of
both programs and devices but it didn't work.
Gr,
Axel Scheepers
"David Efflandt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in bericht
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Mon, 18 Sep 2000, Axel Scheepers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >recently I had to reconfigure my linux internet gateway. I use
> >squid as a proxy wich works fine. For masq. I use ipchains. I
> >defined a policy wich forwards any requests outside my private
> >net to the internet. But when i try to ping a host on the
> >internet it still complains that it can't find the network. At
> >the moment I can't send any logs since I am using a palm handheld
> >for news acces. I use the same setup as described in the masq.
> >howto, I just adapted it to my own net.
> >Can anybody give me some points to start searching on what is
> >wrong?
>
> Assuming you read the IPCHAINS-HOWTO, you may have forgotten to enable IP
> forwarding by changine ip_forward from 0 to 1. This is included in the
> simple 3 line MASQ example:
>
> echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
>
> Also if using ftp you should: /sbin/insmod ip_masq_ftp
>
> --
> David Efflandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.de-srv.com/
> http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/ http://www.berniesfloral.net/
> http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/ http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martijn Brouwer)
Subject: good mail/news client
Date: 21 Sep 2000 20:33:50 GMT
I am still looking for a graphical mailclient that has the following
properties:
- IMAP support
- fast (has to run on a 100 Mhz 486)
- good looking
- complete and stable (no premature alfa release)
>From freshmeat I made the following preselection and I would like to hear
some comments:
- althea
- gtkmail
- mahagony
- postoffice
- spruce
Other suggestions are of course welcome. Does anybody have a good
suggestion for a news client with the properties mentioned above?
Thanks,
_____________________________________________________________
Martijn Brouwer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Making XDM work like startx --bpp16
Date: 21 Sep 2000 20:49:39 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:39:20 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Making XDM work like startx --bpp16
>My xdm starts in 8 bit mode. how can I get it to work like startx -
>bpp16??
Edit your XF86Config file (it's either in /etc or /etc/X11 ) and insert
the line
DefaultColorDepth 16
into the parts of that file that say 'Section "Screen" '.
SaX (the X-configuration program which comes with SuSE) lets you
determine the default color depth from a friendly GUI--no idea why
Xconfigurator doesn't do that....
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Those who do not understand Unix are
http://www.brainbench.com / condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
=============================/ ==Henry Spencer
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From: "John Bates" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Porting of sam editor to Linux
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 21:47:04 +0100
Smitty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Does anyone know if the sam editor from the Plan 9 operating system has
>been ported to Linux?
>If not, is it being ported?
The source for the Unix version of Rob Pike's Sam editor
can be found at:
ftp://ftp.cs.usyd.edu.au/matty/unicode/sam.msg.gz
Also, Rob Pike's Acme editor can be used on Linux via
Inferno. See http://www.vitanuova.com and the:
"Inferno virtual OS for Linux - Free download"
posting in comp.os.linux.announce.
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Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 20:40:40 GMT
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 20:37:36 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> For most early-era operating systems, there was not much of a
> difference between binary and source code.
Have you ever written anything in machine language. The difference
between machine language and even a primitive assembler is HUGE.
> Writing operating systems
> in high-level languages is a pretty recent development. :)
Only if you consider late '50s and early '60s to be recent.
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From: "Axel Scheepers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: rar problems
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 22:39:33 +0200
Hallo!
It should be ok the way you did it, probably the drive isn't correctly
mounted (How did you write it to zip? under linux using /dev/sdaX directly
or under windows?)
Is the archive readable by other systems (on which you created it?)
...
Gr,
Axel Scheepers
"Christian Verbeek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in bericht
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
dear newgroup,
i splitted a 200mb tar-file with rar on two zip-disks. now i want to
restore the file. but unrar on just produces an error message, when
finished with the first rar-file and does not ask for the second .r00
file. i put the swith -v , but this does not help.
whats the trick?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: test2
Date: 21 Sep 2000 19:39:30 GMT
test2
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: test3
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 19:42:54 +0000
test3 ib
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From: "Lonni J. Friedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Generic Configure Problem
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 16:09:27 -0400
jay wrote:
>
> My problem is sort of a generic "configure" problem. I have had this
> problem in the past trying to compile other software. Most recently,
> I had this problem with ImageMagick. This is not a specific problem to
> ImageMagick.
>
> I have libjpeg.a and libpng.a installed in /home/foo/usr/local/lib
> and their respective header files in /home/foo/usr/local/include
>
> ImageMagick will look for these libs.
> So I do a ./configure --prefix=/home/foo/usr/local
>
> Configure starts running and gets to something like this:
> ...
> checking for png.h... no
> checking for pngconf.h... no
> checking for png_info_init in -lpng... no
> ...
>
> png.h and pngconf.h are in /home/foo/usr/local/include and
> libpng.a (for -lpng) is in /home/foo/usr/local/lib.
>
> I have /home/foo/usr/local/lib in my $LD_LIBRARY_PATH.
>
> I have had this problem with other software as well where configure
> claims that the .h files are missing and the libraries are gone as well.
>
> I am not sure what the problem is. Does anyone have any suggestions?
I'm wondering why you would install any libraries in /home? THey are
usually found in /lib or possible somewhere in the /usr/lib structure.
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From: "Bernd Oliver Christiansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: anon-ftp RPM
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:02:25 -0700
Hello:
I installed the anon-ftp RPM on RedHat 6.2 and rebooted, but ftp localhost
still rejects my connection attempt. Any ideas why?
Did I have to reboot after installing the above RPM?
How can I simply restart all network-related daemons on RedHat 6.2?
There is no inetd.conf in my /etc directory? Which file specifies which
network services should be started?
Thanks,
-Bernd
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From: Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 18:19:51 -0300
El jue, 21 sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribi�:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> For most early-era operating systems, there was not much of a
>> difference between binary and source code.
>
>Have you ever written anything in machine language. The difference
>between machine language and even a primitive assembler is HUGE.
Z80 machine language inserted in a REM statement in a Sinclair 1000
(ZX81 clone) counts?
Usually we just did the asm in paper, then converted to opcodes (by memory
after a few months of practice ;-) on paper, then injected the opcodes through
diverse misterious mechanisms, usually involving a self modifying BASIC
program :-)
Even the most rudimentary asm would, indeed have cut development time
by 10 or so.
>> Writing operating systems
>> in high-level languages is a pretty recent development. :)
>
>Only if you consider late '50s and early '60s to be recent.
In the early 50s there was a huge difference between hardware and software:
hardware was made out of glass and metal, software usually had plastic or
rubber coatings :-)
--
Roberto Alsina
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From: "Axel Scheepers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux screws up windoze filesystem ?
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 23:13:26 +0200
I use windows ME right now and it creates files at my linux server. Formarly
i used a combination of windows linux. I loaded the vfat and msdos support
and everything worked fine. I could use whatever filename i wanted (within
reason) and it created it whitout hassle.
So if you really loaded everything that is needed then i really couldn't
tell you what goes wrong.
But i experience an odd thing. When windows creates a file on a fat32
partition it usually is converted to semthing like blabla~1.doc but on linux
the ~1 looks like a random number. It should have nothing to do with it.
Gr,
Axel Scheepers
"The Darkener" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in bericht
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I know that windows doesn't like filenames (Fat or vfat) with more than 1
> (one) period in it. The file you mentioned before (kernel v2.4.0-test8)
would
> get garbled. I've figured this out with trying to dl linux specific files
on
> windows systems, it tries to replace the extra periods with underscores,
and
> never seems to like it later on for some reason.
>
> Dunno, just a thought..
>
> "Florian E.J. Fruth" wrote:
>
> > Andreas K�h�ri wrote:
> >
> > > In article <8qdb87$ld2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > > Florian E.J. Fruth <fejf@gmx*/dev/null*.de> wrote:
> > > >Andreas K�h�ri wrote:
> > > >
> > > >[cut]
> > > >
> > > >> One thing you do wrong is that you give the file a name that does
not
> > > >> fit into what the specification of the file system on the Windows
> > > >> partition thinks is legal. Don't do that.
> > > >
> > > >don't think so - it's nearly with every filename (e.g. "kernel
> > > >v2.4.0-test8" or isn't this a correct filename?
> > >
> > >
> > > No, it's an illegal FAT32 file name. When using FAT32 you may only
> > > have 8+3 letters in the file name (see below though).
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >> You might also have mounted it as having the wrong file system
type.
> > > >> What does Windows say about the file system type of the partition?
> > > >
> > > >what do u mean exacly with this ?
> > > >it's fat32 on a 45gb harddisk...
> > > >fejf
> > >
> > >
> > > From the Filesystem HOWTO:
> > >
> > > Windows 95/98 and Windows NT/2000 store long filenames on FAT
> > > in special directory entries with set attributes ReadOnly,
> > > Hidden, System and Volume, so if you access FAT volume from
> > > DOS you don't see these "files". These special entries have
> > > this mad structure:
> > >
> > > byte sequence number for slot
> > > string(10) first 5 characters in name
> > > byte attribute byte
> > > byte always 0
> > > byte checksum for 8.3 alias
> > > string(12) 6 more characters in name
> > > word starting cluster number, 0 in long slots
> > > string(4) last 2 characters in name
> > >
> > > Problem occur when you delete or modify file with long name
> > > from system without VFAT support, because only DOS 8+3 entry
> > > will be deleted or modified. Scandisk from Windows 95/98 can
> > > repair this problem.
> > >
> > >
> > > /A
> >
> > but with vfat linux should support long filenames, or ?
> > so it shouldn't be a problem on (re-)naming a file to more than 8.3 ?
> > fejf
> >
> > --
> > Words u don't want to hear from your sysadmin:
> > Ooops. Save your work - FAST !
>
> --
> - The Darkener
> It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
>
>
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From: Ernst-Udo Wallenborn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: shutting down a process at shutdown
Date: 21 Sep 2000 23:30:14 +0200
Ralph Churchill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > You added e.g. an S90oracle script? Then you should have a K90oracle
> > script in the same run-level directories too... Both should be
> > symlinks to the script in /etc/rc.d/init.d. I think that's the way it
> > works in Red Hat too (I use Debian).
> >
>
> Heres' what I've got:
>
> ./rc0.d/K00oracle
> ./rc1.d/K00oracle
> ./rc2.d/K00oracle
> ./rc3.d/S99oracle
> ./rc4.d/S99oracle
> ./rc5.d/S99oracle
> ./rc6.d/K00oracle
>
> All symlinks to ./init.d/oracle. Do I need a K00oracle AND an S99oracle
> at each run level?
No. First of all find out what runlevel you are normally in, by
inspecting /etc/inittab. There should be a line like
# default runlevel
id:2:initdefault:
In this case, the default runlevel is 2. Now you need symlinks in
rc2.d
$cd rc2.d
$ln -s ../init.d/oracle ./S90oracle
$ln -s ../init.d/oracle ./K90oracle
$ls -la
... S90oracle -> ../init.d/oracle
... K90oracle -> ../init.d/oracle
You see, linux' idea is not to enter runlevel 6 on shutdown,
but to leave runlevel 2 first.
Of course you have to replace '2' with your actual runlevel.
--
Ernst-Udo Wallenborn
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Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 22:32:14 +0100
From: Marc Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera
Subject: Re: Sound Card
For my sound blaster 16 i compiled it using:
modprobe sb io=0x220 irq=7 dma=0 dma16=6 mpu_io=0x300
insmod opl3 io=0x388
and then to see if everything is fine and dandy i check it by typing:
cat /dev/sndstat
Daniel B�chard wrote:
>
> After I installed Open Linux I realised that my sound card was not
> detected
> I tried with the konsole/lisa but there is no sound card configuration
> with lisa.
>
> Can I install the sound card manually
>
> Thank you
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From: Sun Ju <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Telnet login delayed
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 19:44:18 +0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Disable the Reverse Name resolution would be a better choice.
You may telnet from different locations.
But if you just telnet from one place, just put the follow that instruction.
Josh
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> > I installed Redhat Linux 6.2 and i enable telnet also
> > when i try to telnet to this server from my windows client (95 and 98)
> > it takes long time (almost 55 second) to show the login prompt. all PcS
>
> dns. Either configure a dns for your local network, or put
> the ip addresses/names in /etc/hosts file.
>
> Vilmos
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 21:50:13 GMT
In article <00092118232402.01744@pc03>,
Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Z80 machine language inserted in a REM statement in a Sinclair 1000
> (ZX81 clone) counts?
Well, at least it was more sophisticated than a PDP-5 ;-)
> Even the most rudimentary asm would, indeed have cut development time
> by 10 or so.
Exactly my point.
> In the early 50s there was a huge difference between hardware and
software:
> hardware was made out of glass and metal, software usually had plastic
or
> rubber coatings :-)
Well, first, I said late 50s, not early 50s. Second, there were magnetic
tape drives and key-to-tape machines in the early 50s.
I can't guaranty that there isn't an older example, but the earliest
commercial operating system that I know to have been written in a high
level language was the MCP for the Burroughs B 5000. I believe that
there were earlier noncommercial systems written in NELLIAC and in
JOVIAL.
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From: WATM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Help: Kernel hang/coredump analysis
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 23:04:03 +0100
Liaw Yong Shyang wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have midified and recompiled the Linux kernel for my project. I can
> reboot from my new kernel image successfully, and it works happily.
> However, the system will hang from time to time. How can I debug, as I
> could not repeat the bug at my will?? Is it any tool that I can use to
> analyse coredump? Any book or article I can read more about coredump
> analysis?
>
> I really appreciate if you can help. Thank in advance.
If it is an Oops, it can be analyzed with ksymoops.
The oops data is sent to the kernel ring buffer (read with dmesg).
--Bruno
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Augusto Cardoso)
Subject: DVD instead of CD reader ?
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 22:05:35 GMT
my old CD reader id having trouble and needs replacement.
Is it wise to buy a new SCSI CD reader or is it preferable to
buy a DVD reader ?
I usually use SuSE Linux and they are now delivering Linux
on DVD.
Are there any caveats ?
Thanks for your comments.
Augusto
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