Linux-Misc Digest #845, Volume #21               Fri, 17 Sep 99 05:13:11 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Figure Out The MS Source Code Yourself (Peter Samuelson)
  How to split a linux partition? (Kenny Zhu)
  Re: Does Linux offer an alternative to ASP? (Peter Caffin)
  Re: Fax Server (Peter Caffin)
  Re: getright for linux (Peter Caffin)
  Re: StarOffice5.1 + FAX (efax) (Peter Caffin)
  Re: Win install after Linux?? (Peter Caffin)
  Re: zImage (Peter Caffin)
  Re: winmodem driver to linux (Peter Caffin)
  Re: Star Office and special caracters (Peter Caffin)
  Re: StarOffice Envelope Template (Peter Caffin)
  Re: How to query fs on mystery floppy? (Peter Caffin)
  Re: PostScript to Word? (Peter Caffin)
  Re: Man documents in HTML or PDF format ? (Peter Caffin)
  Re: fetchmail help... (Peter Caffin)
  Re: Figure Out The MS Source Code Yourself (Peter Samuelson)
  "Linux" & "Penguin" copyright ? (data-portal)
  Re: Absurd Linux mentality ! (Kim Carter)
  Re: "autoexec.bat"-type service in Linux? (Ray McLaughlin)
  Re: How do you shutdown X and get back to the command prompt. (Frederic L. W. 
Meunier)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Samuelson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Figure Out The MS Source Code Yourself
Date: 17 Sep 1999 01:41:25 -0500
Reply-To: Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[Joel Hanger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
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Please.  Don't.  Use.  MIME.  On.  Usenet.

  [bilge, on reverse engineering]
> > How many examples of such practicess in long existing areas of law
> > enforcement would be required to convince you how little their
> > actions to prosecute you can negatively affect their prosecution of
> > you?
> Why is it so that Bill Gates can get away with such an offense
> without punishment... such as did apple???

What offense?  Gates has done many things in his career but I seriously 
doubt he has reverse engineered anything.  Why reverse engineer when
you can buy?

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> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Multipart/* is of the devil.  Please exorcise.

-- 
Peter Samuelson
<sampo.creighton.edu!psamuels>

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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 15:05:45 +0800
From: Kenny Zhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to split a linux partition?

Hi, I need to know how to split a big linux partition into two without destroying the 
content on the partition. Is there any application for linux that resembles FIPS? 
Please email me a quick answer. Thanks.

Kenny


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From: Peter Caffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does Linux offer an alternative to ASP?
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 05:14:05 +0000

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm about to begin using M$ apps to write Active Server Pages.
> I was wondering if there was a purely Linux solution that could be 
> used in place of M$ ASP in function,

I'd recommend your looking into the CGI interface (which can be used
by just about any scripting or programming language; Perl, shell script,
awk, compiled C binaries, etc). If you want something that's specifically
server-side included, have a look at PHP3.

> as well as apps used in the creation of such pages.

Personally, I just use my favourite text editor to program with. However,
there are some larger editors that favour programmers; Emacs is one you
might want to look at (I personally don't like it, but, it might be
helpful to you).

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From: Peter Caffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fax Server
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 06:05:51 +0000

Steve DenBleyker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there a way to configure a Fax Server on RH Linux 6.0? I don't really
> want to buy a package.

Have a look at Sections 1, 2 and 3A of The Print-to-Fax Mini-HOWTO
at http://it.net.au/~pc/comp/linux/print-to-fax.html. That's probably
the easiest method.

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From: Peter Caffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: getright for linux
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 05:15:34 +0000

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I wonder whether there is a version (or similar software)
> of getright for linux.  I need to set up ftp jobs at an specific
> time.  Is there any way of doing that on linux?

There are two things I'd recommend for this task: wget and cron.

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From: Peter Caffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: StarOffice5.1 + FAX (efax)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 05:52:36 +0000

Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Joo-Yung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>I  would like to know how I can send a fax 
>>under StarOffice 5.1 by using efax.

Why using Efax in particular? 
StarOffice has its own faxing capabilities and there are other fax
solutions well worth a look.

> What I do is print the file using the generic PostScript driver, to a file. 
> Then I type
>       fax 12223334444 filename.ps
> and away it goes.

The Print-To-Fax Mini-HOWTO at 
http://it.net.au/~pc/comp/linux/print-to-fax.html might also be useful
to you.

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From: Peter Caffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Win install after Linux??
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 06:13:12 +0000

Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Windows is usually put in the first partition on the disk.
> I'm not sure this is necessary, but if you don't put it there,
> you may have to do some fiddling with lilo at the very least
> to boot Windows.

I can't say for Windows 98, but, with Windows 95, all I needed to do
after reinstalling Windows on the first partition was to find a boot
disk (and boot using `root=/dev/hda3` to drop me back to my usual
Linux partition). Then just ran `lilo` and that's it. Couldn't be
easier.

The caveat would probably be: back up all the DOS/Windows files 
you want to keep and delete all files on your DOS partition before 
reinstalling. Just seems like a safer idea to me.

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From: Peter Caffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: zImage
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 06:53:44 +0000

"Daniel P. Gelinske" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> that is done, you can 'make zImage' and the zImage file will appear in
> the /usr/src/linux*/arch/i386/boot directory.  Then you can set it into
> the /boot directory (if your old kernel is also called zImage, you will
> want to move it to a new filename, ie zImage-2.2.2 for kernel version
> 2.2.2)

You will be *much* happier if you just `make bzlilo` which automates
these steps for you. Trust me.

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From: Peter Caffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: winmodem driver to linux
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 06:02:39 +0000

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Could an adapter be built and sold real cheap,  "Use Your Soundcard as
> a Modem!" the ads could say.

I seem to remember hearing of C64's being converted into 1200 baud 
modems using much the same principle.

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From: Peter Caffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Star Office and special caracters
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 05:41:23 +0000

Hans Marcus Kruger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In (nearly) all other programs I can write special caracters without
> problems, but in Star Office I am having problems with ~ (tilde). I
> can nor compine it with for example ~+a nor can I use ALT+] + a.

> The second problem is with cedilia (tyhat snake under the [...]). I
> can't compose it using "'" + c.

It's hardly ideal, but, there's always alt-I S.

I'd be very surprised if there wasn't a much better way though.
You might find more answers at de.comp.office-pakete.staroffice
which does have some English language content.

(PS: Please don't post messages containing binary to text newsgroups.
My newsreader nearly barfed my reply to you because it quoted the bit
I've had to snip from your message).
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From: Peter Caffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: StarOffice Envelope Template
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 06:43:34 +0000

Stan Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Has anyone managed to edit the template for envelopes to use a USA address
> format?  By this, I mean first and last name on one line, street address on
> a second, and city, state, and ZIP on a third?

To be honest, I'd recommend you skip this idea entirely and just
carefully position the address on your cover letter and use envelopes
with those lovely little windows :). Saves so much time it's scary.

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From: Peter Caffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to query fs on mystery floppy?
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 06:25:32 +0000

W. Tucker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have an unlabeled floppy disk on my desk and would like to see 
>what files it contains. The simple answer is to mount it and run 
>the ls command.  But the mount command takes the file system type 
>as an argument and I don't know which to specify since the floppy 
>could be in either msdos or ext2 format.  While I could mount 
>it each way and see which one works, I was hoping for a more 
>elegant solution.

If you're in luck, `mount -t auto /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy` will work
for you. Do you have a vague idea of what the floppy was written
with?

`cat /proc/filesystems` and see if the entries ring a bell. If
there's anything missing, get your kernel source and `make menuconfig`
in /usr/src/linux and check out the file systems section there and
make sure you have it enabled.

If it's something even more obscure (CP/M or something else), then
you'll have some work on your hands. You'll have to get to know fdutils.
http://www.tux.org/pub/tux/knaff/fdutils/disk-id.html is the URL which
best describes how to identify an unknown disk using fdutils. Use it
as a very last resort.

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From: Peter Caffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: PostScript to Word?
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 05:58:22 +0000

T.P Harte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone know if it is possible to convert .ps documents
> created by, say LaTeX and dvips, into MS Word 6.0 .doc files?

Your best bet will be to use ps2ascii to convert your postscript
to (surprise!) ASCII to incorporate into a new MS-Word document.

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From: Peter Caffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Man documents in HTML or PDF format ?
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 05:49:29 +0000

Vitaly Lipovetsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Where can I find Man documents in HTML or PDF format ?

There's a good chance it'll be at http://localhost/cgi-bin/man2html
If not, I'm reasonably sure there's a Debian package that you can
convert with alien.

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From: Peter Caffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: fetchmail help...
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 06:47:39 +0000

Ted Wager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I wonder if someone could send me the stanza for fetchmail..I have read
> the manpages and
> cribbed ideas from various books but my isp will not accept it...

Have a look at http://it.net.au/~pc/comp/linux/fetch-for-domain.html
The bit you're interested in is the second part which mentions the
example domain goth.net.

Good luck.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Samuelson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Figure Out The MS Source Code Yourself
Date: 17 Sep 1999 01:50:48 -0500
Reply-To: Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[bilge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
>     (2) No person shall manufacture, import, offer to the public, provide,
>         or otherwise traffic in any technology, product, service, device, 
>       component, or part thereof, that--
[...]
>         (B) has only limited commercially significant purpose or use other
>           than to circumvent a technological measure that effectively 
>           controls access to a work protected under this title; or

Literally, that means I cannot manufacture a device that has only
limited commercially significant purpose.  Bummer.

-- 
Peter Samuelson
<sampo.creighton.edu!psamuels>

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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:01:12 +0800
From: data-portal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,alt.os.linux
Subject: "Linux" & "Penguin" copyright ?

Is the word "Linux" and the Linux "Penguin" copyright ?
Do I need permission to use both the word Linux and
Penguin ?  Would like to print some T-shirts of it.

Regards
reply to : [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kim Carter)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: Absurd Linux mentality !
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 00:37:04 +0100

In article <7rpdvq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        Johannes Nix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne) writes:
> 
> 
>> 
>> We could change the command to:
>> 
>> pickdirectory /home ; archiver --create --filter * | 
>>     ( pickdirectory /home ; archiver --extract --filter )
>> 
>> The cryptic names would go away, and the command line happens to get
>> longer.  The syntax hasn't changed one iota, and the logic behind that
>> syntax is quite valid, regardless of the names of the commands.  
>> 
>> 
>> - In the case of UNIX, it "suffers" from having some commands that
>>   have cryptic names, like cp, mv, tar, ls, mkdir, and cat.
>> 
>>   (Not unlike the crypticness of copy, rename, zip, dir, mkdir, and
>>   type.)
>> 
> 
> 
> Now, the most used commands are the shortest so that your don't loose
> time to type "list" fifty times a day or "remove". It is clear that
> this is fine for people which use the commands a lot and not so fine
> for people which don't.
> 
> The least mnemonic is "cat" but guess what does "tac" ?
> 
> Johannes

Works from the end of the file backwards - useful for looking at logs 
cat backwards ... ?

At least the crypticity of unix commands is reasonably understandable 
'once you know' - pip anyone (CPM)

KC

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From: Ray McLaughlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "autoexec.bat"-type service in Linux?
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 04:15:23 -0500

Lothar Dickhoff wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> the best equivalents to Autoexec.bat in Unix are
> 
> "/etc/profile"  (will be executed at login time for every user)
>                        This file is owned by root. Be careful when changing

Executed at login? It seems to also execute every time I open a new
Xterminal. I found this out when I added a line calling a script to set
up my modem. During boot up the system identified my modem, /dev/ttyS1,
as UART=16550A, but for some reason didn't set it so. The command, from
a root shell, setserial /dev/ttyS1 gave out put that lacked the UART
info. I couldn't use my modem until, as root, I had issued the command:
setserial /dev/ttyS1 uart 16550A. To make life easier I created
incorporated this line in a script, /bin/modem, and got in the habit of
typing "modem" after booting up. This only works as root. as the
setserial command is off limits to nonroot users. Reading this thread
lead me to insert the line "modem" at the end of my /etc/profile. This
works as long as I login as root first when I boot up, but now I get a
harmless error message at the top of every Xterminal I open.

Can anyone suggest a better place to put the modem command, or better
yet, a setserial command so my modem is available from the get go?

Thanks- Ray

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From: Frederic L. W. Meunier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do you shutdown X and get back to the command prompt.
Date: 17 Sep 1999 08:41:31 GMT

???
You go back to the console with ctrl+atl+Fx, go back to X with alt+F7
(this is the default on RedHat), and shutdown X with ctrl+alt+backspace.
I don't recommend doing that. Use the close button of your Window
Manager. If you want to reboot, just make an option in the preferences
files of your WM. If you use IceWM, put halt halt shutdown -h now
in your "preferences" file. I don't know the others, sorry.

-- 
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