Linux-Misc Digest #861, Volume #21 Sat, 18 Sep 99 15:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: Machine won't utilize swap space (NF Stevens)
Re: two problems (Fireman71)
Re: speed pf PPP connection (Jeff Pierce)
Re: licq (Tim Haynes)
Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Screen resolution ("Alston Adams")
Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Resizing a partition - please, help ("Juan Riera")
Re: Need info --I have a one shot deal. (GAJ)
Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie (Anthony Ord)
Re: Linux und AMD, geht das? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
chmod setuid and permissions ("Severin B. Swensen")
Re: eth0 (Leonard Evens)
Re: I WANT TO DITCH WINDOZE BUT I CANT!!! ("John Wilcox")
Re: Mandrake6.1 - which kdebase should I upgrade? (Bill Unruh)
Re: Good network programming guide (John Forkosh)
Re: Figure Out The MS Source Code Yourself ("[EMAIL PROTECTED]")
Re: Good network programming guide (Coy A Hile)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os/linux.setup
Subject: Re: Machine won't utilize swap space
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 15:18:51 GMT
Wallace Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have PII 233Mhz system (multiple SCSI / IDE drives, 98MB RAM) running
>Slackware kernel 2.0.36. I've allocated a 120MB partition to as swap and
>have it automatically utilized a system bootup via the /etc/fstab entry.
>When my system gets tearing, it can really eat into the system memory.
>Sometimes it freeze or start running slowly because it never utilizes
>the swap space when it's used up the free memory. when I type the "free"
>command, it shows the though memory is used up and still the swap space
>( which regesters in the output of that same command ) nevers gets used.
>I utilized partitions on other drives, to ensure that the first was not
>bad, to no avail. Is there anything special I need to do get the swap to
>be utilized once physical memory is used up ? I've tried manually
>running the swapon/off commands also to no avail. Has anyone run into
>this ? If so, how did you fix it ? Thanks.
You did initialise the swap partition with mkswap?
Norman
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From: Fireman71 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: two problems
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 03:36:49 -0400
An Update:
Alrighty, many thinks for the help so far at least my dynamic IP problem is
now solved. WOOHOO! One down one to go. With the mounting floppy I have
gotten a few questions about it for more detail. The floppy is not mounted
automatically. I went through the dmsgs and it isnt listed there. Also
fstab has it as "/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy tpye: ext2". I can access the drive
with mtools to read and write to it but when i format it it goes to 9%
completed and then hangs up. I have gone through all my logs and cannot
find any reference to this or anything that could be even remotely related.
In fact the only error messages i can find are related to installing a scsi
card right after i installed RH6 and that is working now (they were dated
like 2 months ago). There are no core dumps on my machine except for one
which came up due to netscape getting killed by a java app. Well, I hope
this helps provide some more info on my problem and again, many thanks in
advance.
Fireman71 wrote:
> Ok, i'll start with what i hope is the simplest problem first. Everytime
> i try to mount my floppy drive the whole linux machine locks up and the
> only way to recover from it is to power down then back up. I have tried
> all the stuff listed in the howto's i can find at metalabs with no
> success. Have tried various filetypes (vfat, msdos, ext2, etc) and two
> different device drivers (the /dev/fd0 and /dev/fd0H1440). They all
> result with the same problem. The disks are good and can be read by
> Win9x on the same comp so i know there is nothing wrong with the drive
> itself or the 20 or so disks i have tried to access. This one has me
> totally lost but i am guessing that there is something that i am missing
> somewhere.
>
> The second problem. I leave my linux box online almost all the time but
> occasionally it loses connect with my ISP for one reason or another. I
> have it set up to automatically reconnect already but i have to endure
> dynamic IPs so when i am out on the road i cant telnet into my machine
> at home since it has a different IP. Is there a way to write a script or
> something that will get the IP address from somewhere and email it to me
> whenever it has to reconnect?
>
> I am currently running RH6.0.
>
> Many thanks in advance
> Keith
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Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 12:06:37 -0400
From: Jeff Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: speed pf PPP connection
Ricardo Wagner wrote:
>
> Agree....somebody should write a speedometer for this matter. for the time
> being, file transfer times is a good idea of how fast you are doing.
>
> Johnny McMenamin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > Hello
> > > I am using Linux connecting to the internet but I want to figure out
> > > my connection speed.
There is a way to see the actual connact speed as reported by the modem,
it is in /var/adm/messages.
Also the pppstats command will display ppp stats which is gotten from
/proc/net/dev.
There is also a tcl/tk program in Tcl/Tk Toolkit from O'Reilly. That
graphs ppp statistics.
> > > Furthermore, I want to buy a 56K modem( mine is 33.6k now). Can Linux
> > > support a 56k Modem? Which brand is more compatible to Linux?
> > >
> > > ps. I am using RedHat 5.2
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Te-Cheng Shen
> >
> > I am using a USR 57.6k modem and although I don't know what speed I am
> > connecting with exactly, I know it must be the same as it was when I was
> > using "that other OS": 50,666 bps. I estimate it to be this because the
> > ftp transfer speed reflects this. :)
> >
> > Johnny
> >
> > The Bobby Fischer Home Page
> > http://www.rio.com/~johnnymc
> >
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Haynes)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: licq
Date: 18 Sep 1999 16:22:49 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Raj Rijhwani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> doodled in uk.comp.os.linux:
> I installed (from a binary distribution), and had working, licq (0.61) the
> weekend before last. When I came to use it this week, it fails to logon
> to the server with "Bad UDP version no".
Is this repeatable?
> I know there's a new version been released this week (0.70) but I can't
> compile it (threads library not installed). , and there doesn't seem to be a
> binsry distribution (yet?).
Ha, is now.. ;8)
> I can't think that I've changed anything in the intervening 10 days, nor can
> I find any reference to the error in the licq docs or pages around the
> place.
I'm inclined to suggest a temporary glitch, unless it ain't temporary.
> Suggestions?
I just knocked up a binary (latest Debian potato, but I made it a static one
so should run anyplace) - check out
http://www.glutinous.custard.org/temp/licq.gz - unproven (very limited
testing), but who knows? :)
FWIW:
zsh, spodzone 5:20PM temp % md5sum licq.gz
27d6041203fb84c7734fa00eb53e87b5 licq.gz
zsh, spodzone 5:20PM temp %
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 16:16:11 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
K. Bjarnason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
-- snip --
> > > > see what I emphasized with THREE ASTERISKS????
> > >
> > > Yes. "Dare" "fuck". No thanks, you're not my type.
> >
> > Another jerk who doesn't understand English . . .
>
> I understand English just fine. In the text you quoted to me, there
> were exactly two words surrounded by or containing asterisks, which
> you asked I direct my attention to. Those words were "dare" and
> "fuck".
>
> That you a) can't count, and b) can't keep track of your own
> statements, is not a problem of my comprehension.
===== begin post =====
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> K. Bjarnason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > [snips]
> >
> > > A desktop PC also qualifies, provided that the user is not
> > > expected to (nay, is *forbidden* from) installing software on
> > > it. Part of the Great MS-Illusion is the idea that any random
> > > jerk should be able to install software on his or her machine,
> > > ***without knowing jack sh*t about computers.***
> >
> > Nice little attitude there. "It's your machine. It's your
> > software. But don't you *dare* attempt to do it yourself.
> > I haven't deemed you worthy."
>
> "It's your car. It's your fuel injection system. But don't you
> *dare* attempt to [install] it yourself, UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT THE
> F*CK YOU'RE DOING."
===== end post =====
The part that's emphasized with three asterisks is "***without knowing
jack sh*t about computers.***" above.
F*CK is emphasized via capitalization, and "censored" via one
asterisk.
"Dare" is emphasized by one asterisk. "**dare**" would've been two
asterisks.
Apology accepted.
Moron.
Curtis
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From: "Alston Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Screen resolution
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 12:25:42 -0400
I have a ridiculous screen resolution when I start Linux. I can barely see
any part of the screen. How do I set the screen resolution to something more
reasonable?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 17:18:14 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Dominico, Jr.) wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in <7rpc9v$9r7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
-- snip --
> >This is just plain wrong . . . you must be new here.
>
> Okay, fine. I am not insisting this, nor are most of the other
> posts I have read that seem to agree with me. What this could
> possibly have to do with the length of time I have spent here, I
> don't know. My guess is, others in this group have over time.
Precisely. I have been here for half a decade, and have seen countless
posts telling non-Windows users that they are doomed to extinction
because "Windows Rulz" and anyone who disagrees is, essentially, a
loser who's gonna end up in an unemployment line.
> Sorry about that, but you can't fault me for it.
Apology accepted. I can fault you for making unsubstantiable sweeping
statements, just as you fault me (over my flippant use of the word
"bozo" for example).
> >-- snip --
> >
> >> I guess your plan is for every home user to hire a sysadmin so
> >> that they can install Quicken, or update their browser/office
> >> suite/etc...
> >
> > No, my "plan" is for people to understand a directory tree, and
> > other ***BASICS*** of computing, so they can install with
> > intelligence.
And to interject, another point is that with KRPM or some other
point-and-click GUI install tool, Linux application installs wouldn't
need to be any more difficult than the Windows counterpart.
-- snip --
> calling them bozos if they don't take any interest in this is
> elitism, as you have in previous posts.
I've explained this elsewhere; I don't call the whole user-base
"bozos." Just ***HYPOTHETICAL*** certain ones, or types.
-- snip --
> >How many *ordinary* end-users d/l files from the internet? How many
> >**completely computer-ignorant** end-users do? How many "I don't
> >wanna know NUTHIN about computers" end-users do?
> >
> >And what kind of results do each class of end-users typically get?
>
> Well, depending on the programmers who wrote the program and/or its
> install procedure, they might be pretty good.
My experience has typically been, "I downloaded it, but nothing
happened." Users don't understand the difference between
"downloading" and "installing." If they understood this difference,
they could be using the software, but no, expecting them to understand
this is "elitism."
So I try to explain, they don't wanna know, just want me to fix it. So
I hunt for the file ("Where did you download it?" "Whaddya mean? It's
on the hard drive.") and install the thing.
A "bozo" is someone who doesn't even *want* to understand this, but
will d/l anyway, and expect me to make it work.
-- snip --
Curtis
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From: "Juan Riera" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Resizing a partition - please, help
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 19:39:01 +0200
Hello,
I am not very expert with Linux...
I have a home partition that I want to make bigger, taking space from /usr
partition. Can I do it without reformatting partitions?? How?
Thanks in advance,
Juan
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From: GAJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need info --I have a one shot deal.
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 12:01:31 -0500
> I will be leaving the country--US-- for several months. While
> gone I would like to learn Linux. I need ONE book I can take that will
> include a CD with the operating system and teach how not only to setup
> but to use linux. Dosen't have to make me a pro, just get me started.
I highly recommend "Special Edition: Using Caldera OpenLinux." Although
it is not a beginner-level book, I believe it (and the CD it contains)
will fulfill your needs.
Grace
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony Ord)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 18:01:30 GMT
On 16 Sep 1999 17:02:01 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Darren Winsper)
wrote:
>On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 15:27:39 -0500, Joseph Crowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> FWIW, MacOS has
>> proven far more stable than Windows
>
>Hmm...I'm not so sure about that. Do you have any actual evidence of
>this? As anyone in COLA will tell you, I despise Win9x, but it at
>least has some form of memory protection, and I have a hard time
>believing MacOS is more stable.
I don't know how far you go back, but DOS is more stable than Win95. I guess
vendors in those days didn't expect to be able to shift the blame when the
system died.
Regards
Anthony
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
de.comp.os.linux.hardware,de.comp.os.unix.linux.hardware,de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Linux und AMD, geht das?
Date: 18 Sep 1999 08:27:30 +0200
"Wolfgang Morgenthaler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi,
>
> ich m�chte mir einen Rechner mit AMD-Prozessor zulegen und darauf Linux
> installieren.Nun habe ich das Ger�cht (?) geh�rt, da� Linux mit AMD �fters
> Schwierigkeiten bereitet?
>
> Stimmte das? Gibt es jemanden der damit keine Schwierigkeiten hat bzw.
> best�tigen kann, da� er Schwierigkeiten hat?
>
> Viele Gr��e
> Wolfgang Morgenthaler
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
die Ger�chte stammen noch aus 486-Zeiten, dort soll es mal das ein oder
andere Problem gegeben haben(unter sehr ungl�cklichen Umst�nden).
Ich f�r mein Teil hatte damals ein AMD486-100 und heute ein AMD mit 350Mhz
und von Schwierigkeiten keine Spur (habe bis heute auch nichts mehr dar�ber
geh�rt).
Gru�
Ray
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they stop working properly if you open WINDOWS.
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From: "Severin B. Swensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: chmod setuid and permissions
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 17:02:40 GMT
When setting an executible file to rwsrwsr-x with an owner and group of uucp why
is it that when I run this under a normal user acct the files created by the
program have my id instead of uucp?
----
Severin B. Swensen
Lazarus Software
Linux Master
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: eth0
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 11:14:15 -0500
SASKATOON wrote:
>
> Suddenly my 'puter is hanging during boot at eth0. It's always clicked
> before.
It shouldn't hang entirely, but it might take a while to time
out loading a module.
> Could my ISP's mail server being slow cause this?
That doesn't sound too likely. Starting eth0 shouldn't
depend on mail.
> The internet
> is working fine, just the mail has been a bit spotty all day.
While you are connected try
ping Some_remote_location
See if you get long return times interspersed among what should
be very short times.
You don't say how you are connected, but if you are using
an ethernet card, you are either directly connected to a network
or using a cable modem or something similar.
I would guess your problem is more likely to be caused by
a hardware problem either in the eithernet card or what it
is connected to. Try checking all your cables to start.
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From: "John Wilcox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: I WANT TO DITCH WINDOZE BUT I CANT!!!
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 12:09:01 -0500
Same here, I have a UMAX Astra 610P that they have not released anything on
so that anyone can Develop the Drivers to other OSes, and they have only
windoze drivers for that Scanner.
Rick Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> My problem is not a lack of software... it's more on the
> hardware end... I have a parallel port midi interface
> that I can't seem to find a driver for. Every other piece
> of harware (mostly SCSI) that I have is recognized
> by Linux with this one exception.
> As for software, there's plenty available for Linux (Jazz is
> what I would probably use for midi composition).
>
> Rick
> =============================================================
> On 15 Sep 1999, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > (Nicolas De Rico) writes:
> >
> > >Windows is like heroine. You have to flush it out of your system. You
> > >do that by formating your hard drive and installing Linux. Keep your
> > >system Windows-free for 2 months and then you'll feel much better. If
> > >you think that you can't live without win-application A or B, then it's
> > >just the addiction talking. The Win-Purge may hurt you at first, but
> > >not for long.
> >
> > I like this analogy. Let's run with it. Picture Bill Gates standing
> > in a dark alley, whispering to passersby: "Psst! Hey, kid! Want to
> > taste something really good?" And he holds out some shiny, hypnotic
> > GUI that reels them in. Once hooked, they have to keep coming back
> > to him for more, because he controls the territory and crushes or
> > freezes out any would-be competitors, and forms cartels with suppliers.
> >
> > Going cold turkey, as you've described above, would indeed be hard.
> > But there's always methadone therapy (Wine, tapering off to fvwm95).
> >
> > --
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Gibbs)
> > Remove the first period after the "at" sign to reply.
> >
> >
> >
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.kde
Subject: Re: Mandrake6.1 - which kdebase should I upgrade?
Date: 18 Sep 1999 16:31:01 GMT
>"dkmallick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I am currently running Linux Mandrake 6.0. Looks like LM 6.1 is out and I
>>want to upgrade by installing the new RPMs. When I went to download the new
>>kde rpms, I see several different versions of kdebase, kdelibs etc. For
>>example, there is kdebase 1.1.2-7mdk, kdebase 1.1.2pre1-2mdk and
>>kdebase1.1.2pre1-5 mdk.
It looks to me like the mirror site which you got them from did not do
its housekeeping properly. KDEbase has been changing regulary over the
past week, just before the release. In fact the release version is
kdebase-1.1.2-9mdk.i586.rpm
Go to a different mirror.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Forkosh)
Subject: Re: Good network programming guide
Date: 18 Sep 1999 14:46:48 -0400
Coy A Hile ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
: Michael Ransburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: >>Do you know of any downloadable guides or good books about that topic? I
: >> am not looking for a general c programming introduction, a guide which
: >> leads through the network stuff would be sufficient.
: >
: >I'd suggest "Unix Network Programming" by Richard W. Stevens.
: sorry to be pedantic, but that's W. Richard Stevens.
Great book(s). Second edition comes in two volumes, with
a third supposedly following. But Stevens passed away recently.
Anybody know if third volume will be published?
And, to original poster's point, a good online guide is
http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~beej/guide/
Beej's guides cover several topics; the first at that page
is network programming.
John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Figure Out The MS Source Code Yourself
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 18:29:06 GMT
On 17 Sep 1999 01:41:25 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Peter Samuelson) wrote:
>What offense? Gates has done many things in his career but I seriously
>doubt he has reverse engineered anything.
He pays other people to do it. Find out how he screwed Wang
out of OLE. It's now the very foundation of MicroScrew.
>Why reverse engineer when you can buy?
Or steal it. Like he did with his first paper tape basic
interpreter. Whole thing started with a theft.
>Multipart/* is of the devil. Please exorcise.
Sadly, that's why it will win, just like Gates. Because
good is dumb. /:-!
Luke, come over to the Dark Side....
Behind every great fortune there is a crime.
- Honore de Balzac (1799-1850)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Coy A Hile)
Subject: Re: Good network programming guide
Date: 18 Sep 1999 13:18:22 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Michael Ransburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Do you know of any downloadable guides or good books about that topic? I
>> am not looking for a general c programming introduction, a guide which
>> leads through the network stuff would be sufficient.
>
>I'd suggest "Unix Network Programming" by Richard W. Stevens.
>
sorry to be pedantic, but that's W. Richard Stevens.
Coy
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