Linux-Misc Digest #861, Volume #18                Mon, 1 Feb 99 23:13:07 EST

Contents:
  Re: flowcharting software (Jerry Lynn Kreps)
  Re: netstat -w 5 (Peter S. Frouman)
  Re: SORRY! (garv)
  Re: WP8 equations<->MSWord? (Kryz Caputa)
  Re: dial-up web server? (steve mcadams)
  Re: Best speech recognition software to control Linux? (jerryn)
  Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Advice:  NT Service in C vs. Linux Daemon in C??? ("David Sisk")
  Commercial:  $50 / month  LInux colocation service available (Allen Ahoffman)
  Re: please reply to this message! (James Dale)
  Re: Help...missing something from libstdc++.so.2.9 (Juergen Heinzl)
  Question about SNP
  Re: Space Station uses 95/NT, disaster imminent (no joke) (Michael C. Vergallen)
  2.2.1 Kernel & Modutils --HELP! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: URGENT:  Problems (Thomas Zajic)
  Hard disk timeout problems (Keith Keller)
  Re: Newbie Q: Exceed or Something else? (Andrew Portoraro)
  Re: Partition Magic ("William H. Pridgen")
  Re: Question about SNP (Luca Filipozzi)
  RMS: The tail waggeth the dog (Tim Hanson)
  Re: how do I turn numlock on when I boot? (Thomas Zajic)

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From: Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: flowcharting software
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 17:17:09 -0600

Eric Wyles wrote:
> 
> Anyone know of any good flowcharting software that runs on linux?  I
> have some for windows, but I'm trying to become windows independent.
> 
> Thanks,
> Eric Wyles

Try xfig.  Design your own templates.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter S. Frouman)
Subject: Re: netstat -w 5
Date: 2 Feb 1999 01:16:56 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sun, 31 Jan 1999 02:34:05 +0000, Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Anyone know how I can get netstat to do this in Linux?  Here's what the
>FreeBSD version does:
>
>See the attached file (showing the command: netstat -w 5).
>
>Bascially, I want a utility to give me a running total of the
>output/input bytes to my machine at certain time intervals, like in this
>case, every 5 seconds.  Is this behavior or netstat specific to FreeBSD,
>or do other UNIXen have it?

The Linux version of netstat has a -c option for continous output but it
is updated every second and and the man page does not mention a time
interval option. If you prefer the FreeBSD version it would probably be
trivial to get the source and compile it under Linux. There are also other
tools such as iptraf and trafshow which have more options for monitoring
traffic. 

-- 
-Peter Frouman | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Zippy says:
Our father who art in heaven ... I sincerely pray that SOMEBODY at this
table will PAY for my SHREDDED WHAT and ENGLISH MUFFIN ... and also
leave a GENEROUS TIP ....

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From: garv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SORRY!
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 23:31:39 GMT


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From: Kryz Caputa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WP8 equations<->MSWord?
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 15:15:09 -0800

Victor Wagner wrote:
> 
................... original message deleted ..............
> Actually, writing conversion filter is MUCH more complicated than
> unexperienced person may even imagine. Word format docs are more than
> 100 pages, and don't even cover equation, becouse from programmers point
> of view word doesn't support equiations. It just knows how to call
> separate program which draws them, and then hides its data somewhere in
> its file. So, even if Microsoft would publish source code for word, it
> would be very complicated task to write paper.
> 
> Better to ask people you cooperate with, use some more or open format like rtf
> for interchange of information. It will also help them (not you, you are
> safe even now) from macro viruses.

We have tried it. Unfortunately rtf format skips the equations
completely.

> 
> Really it is one of reasons, why experienced people prefer LaTeX - it
> exist for any platform in the world. Another reason - it produces much
> better quality. There is third, forth and fifth reason, which I don't
> like to type in now.

Agreed on ALL points. Wish there were more people who also agree. And
that there weren't people out there who so joyfully send around MSWord
messages, with fancy decorations and things which add nothing to the
message except increased internet traffic.
Maybe we should be looking forward to time when internet providers start
charging dollars and cents for the amount of data emailed. 

-- 
Kryz Caputa
Dpt of Electrical and Computer Engineering
University of Victoria, British Columbia

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve mcadams)
Subject: Re: dial-up web server?
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 23:44:17 GMT

Sounds encouraging.  What I would -really- like to do is leave my
web-site where it is for now, but have a clickable link that would
transfer to my dial-up server if it's online.  (It won't be online
often since I have a number of hours-per-month service.)  Then people
could always get to the site and could get to the "smart" site if it's
up.  This is probably going to take some kind of dynamic routing or
something is my guess.  -steve

[Snipped for brevity, quoted material marked with ">"]
On 31 Jan 1999 16:27:03 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
wrote:

>So it would be easy for Steve to notify CSN to add a new machine name
>pointing to a static domain his ISP set up for him.  He could then
>redirect the browser where desired to his home machine from the main
>host server.
========================================================
so what?  -  http://www.codetools.com/showcase

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From: jerryn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Best speech recognition software to control Linux?
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 16:03:12 -0500

Raja Vallee-Rai wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Does anyone here have any experience with speech recognition software,
> and how it can be used to control a Linux workstation?
> 
> I heard of a product called DragonDictate which actually can do this,
> but you need to be logged in remotely from a Windows running PC, and the
> Unix machine needs to be running a2x.
> 
> Does any one have any experience with this?  Does it actually work
> well?  Is DragonDictate the only piece of software that can be used with
> this, or can the other Dragon products be used too?  (like the
> continuous speech recognition software?)
> 
> (I looked at some of the FAQs on this matter but couldn't find any
> satisfactory answers)
> 
> Thanks,
> Raja Vallee-Rai
I use KVOICECONTROL, it's free and it's pretty accurate!  PLUS you can
read the code and LEARN HOW TO WRITE YOUR OWN SPEECH RECOGNITION 
TOOLS.  So expand your mind, use kvoicecontrol

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 01:40:19 GMT

The Ringleader of the Psycho Circus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>You fail to realize the size difference between the two countries...that is
>like comparing Rhoad Island to California ..not a very fair comparison at all.

In other words, Japan is a highly urbanized society with lots of highly
skilled people, while, on average, the US is is less urbanized and hass
less highly skilled people?

I wonder how that supports the view that Japan is able to produce cheaper
high tech because of the low wages and the low union membership....

Bernie
-- 
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                                           ...let's go exploring"
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From: "David Sisk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Advice:  NT Service in C vs. Linux Daemon in C???
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 20:54:17 -0500

Hi:

Advice, opinions, etc., please!  I'm looking for feedback on which would be
easier to program.

I'm very interested in learning to develop server-side applications in C
and/or C++ (such as
a web-server, for instance.  I realize that the source for Apache is freely
available, but I think that's probably a little difficult for me to start
mucking around with.).   My C/C++ knowledge is limited, but I am
studying it and experimenting with it of knowledge.  Given what I'd like to
focus
on, what are opinions on the easiest platform to start with (specifically,
for socket-type daemons)?  In other
words, which is easier to write (with an http server as an example):  a
Linux
daemon or an NT service.  My current knowledge of the MS WinNT platform is
somewhat better than my unix/Linux knowledge.

Does anyone have any words of wisdom?  Doubly thankful if you would email as
well as posting.


Btw, does anyone write anything is just plain C anymore, or is everything
pretty much done with C++?


Thanks and regards,
--
David C. Sisk
The Unofficial ORACLE on NT site
http://www.ipass.net/~davesisk/oont.htm








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From: Allen Ahoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Commercial:  $50 / month  LInux colocation service available
Date: 1 Feb 1999 22:34:22 -0500

See http://announce.com
if you are interested in putting your LInux box on the net in order to
start a web business
run a game
run a mail server for friends
whatever is legal
we are cheap and good, not always fpound in combination.
 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Dale)
Subject: Re: please reply to this message!
Date: 2 Feb 1999 03:00:29 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>Hi,

>this is just a test, because i never get an reply on my questions here... 
>Please reply...

>-- 
Reply Mode On.

Hi Mo what sort of questions did you ask? 

Reply Mode Off.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: Help...missing something from libstdc++.so.2.9
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 21:24:18 GMT

In article <794lch$mh2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Groves wrote:
>Hello:
>
>I'm trying to run ddd version 3.0.27, which I downloaded from Rufus. I had to install
>libstdc++.so.2.9 for this version of ddd, which I also downloaded from Rufus. 
>However, when I
>try to run ddd, I get the following error message:
>
>/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.9: undefined symbol: __register_frame_info
>
>Can anyone tell me how to fix this? I'm using RedHat version 5.2

Let's see whether I can get it right ... the glibc against which ddd was
linked was compiled with egcs and egcs again exported __register_frame_info,
part of the execption handling code, to the glibc.

Now if your glibc was not compiled with egcs but gcc ... boing ... so
either you can compile your glibc or you can compile ddd yourself (3.0.x is
not that new anyway 8)) or you can wait, since newer versions of the glibc
will solve the problem (glibc-2.1) so it does not matter anymore.

Cheers,
Juergen

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Question about SNP
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 13:51:45 -0500

Hi,

I was asked to look for a package that could handle encrypting telnet and
ftp sessions.  After searching around, I found something called SNP,
Secure Network Protocol (V 0.91) at ftp.csie.nctu.edu.tw/pub/CSIE/snp

It looks like the ideal solution for what we want to use it for; however,
I don't have any networking analysis hardware (or software) to see if it
contains anything that shouldn't be there or if it works as it is being
advertised.

I was wondering if anyone else out there has ever used this software
package and if so, what they thought of it; if you've had problems with
it, if it seems to really encrypt everything as it says, does it encrypt
the initial login information, etc.

If it does what it says it looks like a great encryption software suite!

Thank you for any help you can give.  Please respond by email also;
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thank you!
-Bart


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael C. Vergallen)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Space Station uses 95/NT, disaster imminent (no joke)
Date: 2 Feb 1999 01:00:56 GMT

On Mon, 1 Feb 1999 19:56:23 GMT, Matt Kressel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>The International Space Station (ISS) is networking seven IBM PCs
>together using one NT box and three Win 95s.  They are using Windows
>based software to determine when the next communications pass will
>occur.  
>Thoughts/Flames/Replies?
^^^^^^^^^
<sadistic mode on>
Just one ... I suppose NASA wants to find out if the ISS will burn up on
reentry...and if it does not they will have done something to reduce this
overpopulated world I suppose..

Can you see the whole ISS having to be rebooted 3 times a day because of a 
BSOD...No thanks..
How many years do they expect to use the ISS for ?

<sadistic mode off>

--- 
Michael C. Vergallen A.k.A. Mad Mike, 
Sportstraat 28                  http://www.double-barrel.be/mvergall/
B 9000 Gent                     ftp://ftp.double-barrel.be/pub/linux/
Belgium                         tel : 32-9-2227764 Fax : 32-9-2224976
                        

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 2.2.1 Kernel & Modutils --HELP!
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 03:11:41 GMT

Getting the following errors trying to compile the new modutils for a 2.2.1
kernel, can someone help?


make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/modutils-2.1.23/depmod'
make -C kerneld install-bin
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/modutils-2.1.23/kerneld'
gcc -g -O -Wall -I../include -D_GNU_SOURCE -DDEBUG -DNO_GDBM -c -o kerneld.o
kerneld.c
kerneld.c:2: linux/kerneld.h: No such file or directory
make[1]: *** [kerneld.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/modutils-2.1.23/kerneld'
make: *** [install-bin] Error 2

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From: Thomas Zajic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: URGENT:  Problems
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 03:19:41 GMT

Jeff Grossman wrote:
> Hello,
> I am having some problems.
> [ ... ]
> I am running RedHat Linux 5.2 with the 2.0.36 kernel.  Does anybody
> have any ideas to the above problems.  Any help would be very
> appreciated.

Sounds like some of your directory permissions are screwed up - did
you install some new software package(s) recently? Ah, the joys of
RPM ...

Thomas (Slackware user :-)
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From: Keith Keller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Hard disk timeout problems
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 18:34:47 -0800

Hi there,

So I've searched as many places that I could
think of, and had no success finding anything
that addresses my question.

It so happens that I've added an additional drive
into my system. Every so often, I get a message in
my /var/adm/syslog like so:

=========
Jan 22 21:43:02 lonestar kernel: hdc: irq timeout: status=0x58
{ DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
=========

I've noticed this most often when I use tar to copy
partition contents from one partition to another, but
I know that it has happened at other times (at startup,
for example). My question: What the heck is going on?
What does the status mean? Is there a reference that
documents these messages? More importantly, should I
be worrying about data loss?

Some specifics: The drive is a Western Digital Caviar
3.2GB EIDE hard disk. It started as the master device
on the secondary IDE controller, but is now the master
on the primary controller, and is still generating
these messages. I have the original WD Caviar 1.2 (?) GB
hard disk, which has never had this problem. At first I
thought it might be the drive (when I originally had
a Maxtor 2.5GB drive), so I replaced it, but now that
I continue to get these messages, I worry. 

I'm currently running kernel 2.0.36 with the Slackware 3.1
distribution and the ext2fs tools version 1.12.

Any suggestions would be helpful. TIA,

-- Keith Keller
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Andrew Portoraro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Newbie Q: Exceed or Something else?
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 03:51:33 GMT

I have tested VNC on linux, Win98 and iMac. I can see any platform from every other
platform. I find performance is not that great except between NT and Win98. It is not 
an
X server since it sends pixel info across the network.

I have also tested MI/X. It is a true X server and it is free. The Windows version is
X11R5 based whereas the Mac version is X11R6. I found the Mac version to be more 
stable.
I get drawing problems when using it in Windows, particularly if I use WindowMaker.

The one I am looking at now is X-Server Pro. The demo version can be used for periods 
of
30 minutes at which point you need to restart the server. It's $99 and from the little
work I have done with it it seems to be the best I have tried so far.

Andrew

Cyrus Mehta wrote:

> Suppose I have a Linux Box, running Samba to a number of Windows NT/9X PCs,
> is there any way to run X applications off the Linux Box, but viewed on my
> Windows boxes.
>
> At work, we use Exceed to login ot a server and run GUI applications on the remote
> server.
>
> Since I heard Exceed is expenseive, is there a cheaper (hopefully free) alternative.
>
> Cyrus


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From: "William H. Pridgen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partition Magic
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 19:14:26 +0000

Aaron wrote:
> 
> I know that the company says it should work, I'm just wondering if you
> have run into any problems using Partition Magic 4 to resize (in my
> case, make bigger) Linux ext2 partitions...
> --
> Aaron B. Hockley, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Developer of Markup Master for HTML compatibility
> http://www.netresource.org

I wouldn't trust it.  When I tried that, I found that I was no longer
able to boot Linux.  The review of the product in a recent Linux Journal
said that PM had to many bugs to trust right now with Linux partitions. 
It's fine for creating partitions on which to install Linux, but I
wouldn't try to resize one that Linux is already on.  (There may be a
way to correct the problem I ran into, but I don't know what it is.)

--
Bill Pridgen  **  Linux:  OS for the next millennium
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Luca Filipozzi)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Question about SNP
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 19:54:35 -0800

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> Hi,
> 
> I was asked to look for a package that could handle encrypting telnet and
> ftp sessions.  After searching around, I found something called SNP,
> Secure Network Protocol (V 0.91) at ftp.csie.nctu.edu.tw/pub/CSIE/snp
> 
> It looks like the ideal solution for what we want to use it for; however,
> I don't have any networking analysis hardware (or software) to see if it
> contains anything that shouldn't be there or if it works as it is being
> advertised.
> 
> I was wondering if anyone else out there has ever used this software
> package and if so, what they thought of it; if you've had problems with
> it, if it seems to really encrypt everything as it says, does it encrypt
> the initial login information, etc.
> 
> If it does what it says it looks like a great encryption software suite!
> 
> Thank you for any help you can give.  Please respond by email also;
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Thank you!
> -Bart
> 
> 
I haven't used SNP.

I do use SSH (secure shell) though and find it quite good.

Luca
-- 
Luca Filipozzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Hanson)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,alt.microsoft.sucks,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.linux,alt.conspiracy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.x,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: RMS: The tail waggeth the dog
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 04:12:35 GMT

I'm assuming RMS won't mind quoting verbatim.  What does everyone think of this
manifesto?
=======================================

Why you shouldn't use the Library GPL for your next library
Feb 1st, 21:26:39 

      When the General Public License should be preferred to the Library General
      Public License. 

 by Richard Stallman 

"The GNU Project has two principal licenses to use for libraries. One is the GNU
Library GPL;  the other is the ordinary GNU GPL. The choice of license makes a
big difference: using the  Library GPL permits use of the library in proprietary
programs; using the ordinary GPL for a  library makes it available only for free
programs. 

" Which license is best for a given library is a matter of strategy, and it
depends on the details  of the situation. At present, most GNU libraries are
covered by the Library GPL, and that  means we are using only one of these two
strategies, neglecting the other. So we are now  seeking more libraries to
release *under the ordinary GPL*. 

"Proprietary software developers have the advantage of money; free software
developers  need to make advantages for each other. Using the ordinary GPL for a
library gives free  software developers an advantage over proprietary
developers: a library that they can use,  while proprietary developers cannot
use it. 

" Using the ordinary GPL is not advantageous for every library. There are
reasons that can  make it better to use the Library GPL in certain cases. The
most common case is when a free  library's features are readily available for
proprietary software through other alternative  libraries. In that case, the
library cannot give free software any particular advantage, so it is
 better to use the Library GPL for that library. 

" This is why we used the Library GPL for the GNU C library. After all, there
are plenty of other  C libraries; using the GPL for ours would have driven
proprietary software developers to use  another--no problem for them, only for
us. 

" However, when a library provides a significant unique capability, like GNU
Readline, that's a  horse of a different color. The Readline library implements
input editing and history for  interactive programs, and that's a facility not
generally available elsewhere. Releasing it under  the GPL and limiting its use
to free programs gives our community a real boost. At least one  application
program is free software today specifically because that was necessary for using
 Readline. 

" If we amass a collection of powerful GPL-covered libraries that have no
parallel available to  proprietary software, they will provide a range of useful
modules to serve as building blocks in  new free programs. This will be a
significant advantage for further free software development,  and some projects
will decide to make software free in order to use these libraries. University
 projects can easily be influenced; nowadays, as companies begin to consider
making  software free, even some commercial projects can be influenced in this
way. 

" Proprietary software developers, seeking to deny the free competition an
important  advantage, will try to convince authors not to contribute libraries
to the GPL-covered  collection. For example, they may appeal to the ego,
promising "more users for this library" if  we let them use the code in
proprietary software products. Popularity is tempting, and it is  easy for a
library developer to rationalize the idea that boosting the popularity of that
one library is what the community needs above all. 

" But we should not listen to these temptations, because we can achieve much
more if we  stand together. We free software developers should support one
another. By releasing  libraries that are limited to free software only, we can
help each other's free software  packages outdo the proprietary alternatives.
The whole free software movement will have  more popularity, because free
software as a whole will stack up better against the  competition. 

" Since the name "Library GPL" conveys the wrong idea about this question, we
are planning to  change the name to "Lesser GPL." Actually implementing the name
change may take some  time, but you don't have to wait--you can release
GPL-covered libraries now.  


Tim Hanson

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From: Thomas Zajic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how do I turn numlock on when I boot?
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 03:29:05 GMT

Eric Wyles wrote:
> I have my computer set to boot with numlock on and caps lock off, but
> when I boot to linux, my numlock is off every time.  I am also running
> windows 95 and AP/PRO and both of them boot with the num lock on,
> running on the exact same machine.  How can I tell linux to boot with
> num lock on?
> Thanks,
> Eric Wyles

Add these two lines to your /etc/profile:

# Set keyboard leds
/usr/bin/setleds -D +num -caps -scroll

This doesn�t exactly boot with NumLock on, but it gets activated
on login.

Thomas
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