Linux-Misc Digest #714, Volume #23               Tue, 29 Feb 00 21:13:06 EST

Contents:
  Linux Counter: 137615 registered Linux users ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: compile new module (timman)
  Re: lyons book (Christopher Browne)
  copying from linux to win ("Max")
  Re: connecting to internet via command line (" Rinaldi J. Montessi")
  Re: what setup of Redhat 6.1 is most similar to WIN95/98? ("Matt O'Toole")
  Problem in installing staroffice ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux Counter: 137615 registered Linux users
Date: 1 Mar 2000 01:00:17 GMT

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This is the Linux Counter summary as of Tue Feb 29 17:09:23 2000

There are 137615 persons registerd.
3097 users have been registered by friends.
There are 73668 machines registered.

I guesstimate that between 0.2% and 5% of all Linux users have
registered with the Linux Counter.
So the total number of Linux users is probably between
2,752,300 and 68,807,500 people.

WHERE LINUX USERS LIVE
The table is sorted by number of Linux users divided by population

 No    Country                       Pers  Fri Mach P/Mpop   Mpop
======================================================================
  1 NO Norway                        2999   51 1331 684.1    4.4
  2 IS Iceland                        181    4   89 669.6    0.3
  3 FI Finland                       3097   57 1610 606.6    5.1
  4 DK Denmark                       2943   17 1082 560.6    5.2
  5 SE Sweden                        4764   62 2205 535.2    8.9
  6 AQ Antarctica                       2    0    0 486.0    0.0
  7 NF Norfolk Island                   1    0    0 452.7    0.0
  8 FO Faroe Islands                   16    0    2 364.8    0.0
  9 SI Slovenia                       626    8  165 320.8    2.0
 10 EE Estonia                        465   17  287 318.6    1.5
 11 GI Gibraltar                        8    1   11 278.1    0.0
 12 MS Montserrat                       3    0    1 234.9    0.0
 13 NL Netherlands                   3611   52 1796 231.9   15.6
 14 CA Canada                        5872   84 2995 203.7   28.8
 15 AT Austria                       1617   31  879 201.5    8.0
 16 LU Luxembourg                      73    0   31 175.5    0.4
 17 AU Australia                     3174   50 1807 173.8   18.3
 18 NZ New Zealand                    587    3  361 165.4    3.5
 19 US USA                          43147  857 21652 161.9  266.5
 20 CH Switzerland                   1117   17  664 155.0    7.2
 21 BE Belgium                       1457  526  736 143.3   10.2
 22 IE Ireland                        500    5  216 140.2    3.6
 23 HU Hungary                       1290   48  743 129.0   10.0
 24 DE Germany                       9986  190 5164 119.5   83.5
 25 CY Cyprus                          82    0    7 110.1    0.7
 26 SG Singapore                      361    7  140 106.3    3.4
 27 PT Portugal                      1018   10  319 103.2    9.9
 28 AD Andorra                          7    0    6  96.2    0.1
 29 GB Great Britain                 5533  111 2803  94.6   58.5
 30 MC Monaco                           3    1    3  94.6    0.0
 31 ES Spain                         3682   33 1016  94.0   39.2
 32 FR France                        5229  116 2095  89.7   58.3
 33 IL Israel                         485   14  237  89.5    5.4
 34 GL Greenland                        5    0    1  85.9    0.1
 35 KR Korea (South)                 3860   19  437  84.9   45.5
 36 VG Virgin Islands (British)         1    0    0  75.8    0.0
 37 PL Poland                        2849   55 1259  73.7   38.6
 38 CZ Czech Republic                 671   21  380  65.0   10.3
 39 LI Liechtenstein                    2    0    3  64.3    0.0
 40 PW Palau                            1    0    0  59.0    0.0
 41 BG Bulgaria                       498    6  190  57.8    8.6
 42 KY Cayman Islands                   2    0    3  57.7    0.0
 43 HR Croatia                        288    6   82  57.6    5.0
 44 LT Lithuania                      205    3   99  56.2    3.6
 45 CR Costa Rica                     182    0   79  52.6    3.5
 46 UY Uruguay                        165    0   38  50.9    3.2
 47 GR Greece                         522   16  205  49.5   10.5
 48 BM Bermuda                          3    0    4  48.3    0.1
 49 IT Italy                         2572   67 1038  44.8   57.5
 50 MT Malta                           16    0    7  42.6    0.4
 51 VE Venezuela                      873    3  119  39.7   22.0
 52 SC Seychelles                       3    0    0  38.7    0.1
 53 MV Maldives                        10    0    1  36.9    0.3
 54 BN Brunei                          11    0    7  36.7    0.3
 55 BR Brazil                        5622   59 1121  34.6  162.7
 56 SK Slovakia                       176    1  117  32.7    5.4
 57 GU Guam                             5    0    1  31.9    0.2
 58 BB Barbados                         8    0    2  31.1    0.3
 59 RO Romania                        673   36  331  31.1   21.7
 60 AR Argentina                      955    7  259  27.5   34.7
 61 BZ Belize                           6    0    6  27.4    0.2
 62 TW Taiwan                         530    5  186  24.7   21.5
 63 FM Micronesia, Federated States     3    0    0  23.9    0.1
 64 TT Trinidad and Tobago             30    1    5  23.6    1.3
 65 BS Bahamas                          6    0    2  23.1    0.3
 66 CL Chile                          331    6  127  23.1   14.3
 67 MY Malaysia                       453    7  103  22.7   20.0
 68 LV Latvia                          56    0   41  22.7    2.5
 69 SV El Salvador                    128    0   20  22.0    5.8
 70 PR Puerto Rico                     83    0   17  21.7    3.8
 71 VI Virgin Islands (U.S.)            2    0    1  20.6    0.1
 72 ZA South Africa                   829   12  358  19.9   41.7
 73 MX Mexico                        1866   19  368  19.5   95.8
 74 MP Northern Mariana Islands         1    0    1  19.1    0.1
 75 MH Marshall Islands                 1    0    0  17.1    0.1
 76 RE Reunion                         11    0    4  16.2    0.7
 77 NC New Caledonia                    3    0    9  16.0    0.2
 78 AG Antigua and Barbuda              1    0    2  15.2    0.1
 79 PA Panama                          40    0   14  15.1    2.7
 80 AW Aruba                            1    0    0  14.8    0.1
 81 AM Armenia                         50    0    8  14.4    3.5
 82 AN Netherlands Antilles             3    0    1  14.4    0.2
 83 BH Bahrain                          8    0    3  13.6    0.6
 84 TR Turkey                         837    9  175  13.4   62.5
 85 PF French Polynesia                 3    0    4  13.3    0.2
 86 KW Kuwait                          26    0   11  13.3    2.0
 87 RU Russia                        1744   35  669  11.8  148.2
 88 YU Yugoslavia (Serbia and Monte   123    6   72  11.4   10.8
 89 NA Namibia                         19    0   11  11.3    1.7
 90 BA Bosnia and Herzegovina          30    0    3  11.3    2.7
 91 AE United Arab Emirates            32    1   15  10.5    3.1
 92 CO Colombia                       375    3  124  10.2   36.8
 93 MO Macau                            5    0    1  10.1    0.5
 94 MQ Martinique                       4    0    1  10.0    0.4
 95 TN Tunisia                         90    0   13  10.0    9.0
 96 QA Qatar                            5    1    3   9.1    0.5
 97 MU Mauritius                       10    0    3   8.8    1.1
 98 VC Saint Vincent and the Grenad     1    0    0   8.4    0.1
 99 UA Ukraine                        418   10  186   8.2   50.9
100 PY Paraguay                        43    0   10   7.8    5.5
101 GP Guadeloupe                       3    0    4   7.4    0.4
102 JP Japan                          913    7  274   7.3  125.4
103 MK Macedonia                       15    2    4   7.1    2.1
104 SR Suriname                         3    0    4   6.9    0.4
105 LC Saint Lucia                      1    0    0   6.3    0.2
106 BY Belarus                         65    5   24   6.2   10.4
107 VU Vanuatu                          1    0    3   5.6    0.2
108 BO Bolivia                         40    0   11   5.6    7.2
109 PH Philippines                    379    4   74   5.1   74.5
110 EC Ecuador                         57    0   13   5.0   11.5
111 MD Moldova                         21    0    8   4.7    4.5
112 JM Jamaica                         12    0    2   4.6    2.6
113 PE Peru                           113    0   23   4.6   24.5
114 CU Cuba                            48    6   19   4.4   11.0
115 LB Lebanon                         16    1    5   4.2    3.8
116 BW Botswana                         6    0    3   4.1    1.5
117 TH Thailand                       226    3   79   3.8   58.9
118 DO Dominican Republic              28    0    9   3.5    8.1
119 HN Honduras                        19    0    5   3.4    5.6
120 GT Guatemala                       34    0    7   3.0   11.3
121 MN Mongolia                         7    0    5   2.8    2.5
122 OM Oman                             6    0    1   2.7    2.2
123 GA Gabon                            3    0    2   2.6    1.2
124 KZ Kazakhstan                      34    0   16   2.0   16.9
125 NI Nicaragua                        8    0    2   1.9    4.3
126 ID Indonesia                      375   34  131   1.8  206.6
127 SA Saudi Arabia                    28    0   10   1.4   19.4
128 GY Guyana                           1    0    0   1.4    0.7
129 CM Cameroon                        20    0    8   1.4   14.3
130 AL Albania                          4    2    4   1.2    3.2
131 ZM Zambia                          11    0    4   1.2    9.2
132 JO Jordan                           5    0    3   1.2    4.2
133 ZW Zimbabwe                        13    0    8   1.2   11.3
134 GE Georgia                          6    0   24   1.1    5.2
135 PG Papua New Guinea                 5    0    1   1.1    4.4
136 LK Sri Lanka                       21    1    2   1.1   18.6
137 KG Kyrgyzstan                       5    0    2   1.1    4.5
138 IN India                          947   16  264   1.0  952.1
139 CN China                         1191    4  218   1.0 1210.0
140 EG Egypt                           60    1    9   0.9   63.6
141 UZ Uzbekistan                      19    0    7   0.8   23.4
142 MA Morocco                         24    0   10   0.8   29.8
143 MG Madagascar                       9    0    1   0.7   13.7
144 AZ Azerbaijan                       5    0    2   0.7    7.7
145 SL Sierra Leone                     3    0    0   0.6    4.8
146 CI Cote d'Ivoire                    8    0    4   0.5   14.8
147 PK Pakistan                        67    5   13   0.5  129.3
148 IR Iran                            32    0   21   0.5   66.1
149 SN Senegal                          4    0    0   0.4    9.1
150 VN Vietnam                         32    0    4   0.4   74.0
151 MR Mauritania                       1    0    0   0.4    2.3
152 NP Nepal                            9    0    0   0.4   22.1
153 DZ Algeria                         10    0    6   0.3   29.2
154 MZ Mozambique                       6    0    2   0.3   17.9
155 CF Central African Republic         1    0    0   0.3    3.3
156 KE Kenya                            8    0    2   0.3   28.2
157 KH Cambodia                         3    0    1   0.3   10.9
158 TM Turkmenistan                     1    0    1   0.2    4.1
159 BD Bangladesh                      29    0    8   0.2  123.1
160 NE Niger                            2    0    0   0.2    9.1
161 TG Togo                             1    0    0   0.2    4.6
162 LA Laos                             1    0    1   0.2    5.0
163 LY Libya                            1    0    1   0.2    5.4
164 TZ Tanzania                         5    0    0   0.2   29.1
165 RW Rwanda                           1    0    0   0.1    6.9
166 UG Uganda                           2    0    0   0.1   20.2
167 ET Ethiopia                         3    0    0   0.1   57.2
168 XW The World (Somewhere in it)    245  218    1   0.0 5771.9
169 NG Nigeria                          3    0    1   0.0  103.9
170 WF Wallis and Futuna Islands        1    0    1   0.0    0.0


WHERE PEOPLE USE LINUX
Place      Users Percent
==============================
school     27471  20.25%
home       120335  88.68%
not used      19   0.01%
work       56492  41.63%
somewhere   2884   2.13%
==============================
TOTAL      135691 100.00%

NOTE: The total is the 135691 users who answered this question.
Some gave more than one answer, so the number of answers is 207201


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From: timman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: compile new module
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 01:10:52 GMT

In article <OdDs4.321$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  "Kendal Montgomery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Correct, but after running make modules, you can run a make
modules_install
> to put that directory in place. If you are compling the same kernel
version
> as what you are running you may want to rename or make a tar backup
of  the
> current /lib/modules/X.Y.Z directory before you run the make
modules_install
> or else it will over write it.
>
> --
>
> Kendal L. Montgomery
>
> ".the comPuter Wizard."
>
> Findlay Industries, Inc.
> -- Corporate IT
>
> D. Butler <nospam*[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
in
> message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I think, as long as it's the same kernel version and the 'make
config' (or
> > configuration file) is set up to compile that module, you can just
type
> > 'make modules' from the kernel source directory.  After that,
install it
> > into the proper /lib/modules/* directory.  I may be entirely wrong,
to
> tell
> > the truth.  I'm quite new at this, but I believe that's possible.
> >
> > -Dave B.
> >
> > timman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:88rjqk$5f7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Is it possible to just compile a module without recompiling the
entire
> > > kernel?  If so, what would the syntax be?  I just want to add
support
> > > for an NE2000 network card but don't want to have to recompile the
> > > whole works.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Tim Fischer
> > > MCSE,MCP+Internet
> > > COMPAQ/DEC ASE
> > >
> > >
> > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > > Before you buy.
> >
> >
>
>
Ok, how bout if I make it harder.  I don't have room on my machine to
even extract the source tree.  Everything was compiled on another
machine that I don't have access to.  If I get just the ne.c file can I
compile just that?
--
Tim Fischer
MCSE,MCP+Internet
COMPAQ/DEC ASE


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: lyons book
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 01:25:01 GMT

Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Alex Vrenios would say:
>I believe this is long out of print. I was given a (bad) copy
>for a Unix OS Internals course a while back. (Was it SysV R6?)
>
>If you are looking for something LIKE that, don't miss the book
>titled "Linux Core Kernel Commentary" by Scott Maxwell. It comes
>with a CD and is about $32 on amazon.com. 

_Lions' Commentary on UNIX 6th Edition, with Source Code_ is available
from Peer to Peer Publishing:
<http://www.peer-to-peer.com/catalog/opsrc/lions.html>

It describes UNIX Revision 6, which vastly predates SVR6, and is an
interesting book.

I once used it to validate that the "stat" structure hasn't
substantially changed in 20 years, and was able to usefully disagree
with someone that found what they thought was a bug in Solaris
behaviour, thinking that there was a recent behaviour change.  I went
back to Lion's, and validated that "UNIX has *ALWAYS* worked that
way."
-- 
"Besides a mathematical inclination,  an exceptionally good mastery of
one's  native  tongue   is  the  most  vital  asset   of  a  competent
programmer."  -- Edsger W.Dijkstra
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>

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From: "Max" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.install,comp.os.linux.setup,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: copying from linux to win
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 01:33:49 -0000

this program saved my life (and 2 months worth of php scripts)
it is called explore2fs and allowed me to see my linux partition from
windows and copy files to windows.
http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/Explore2fs.htm

thanks to John Newbigin for this beauty.
max



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From: " Rinaldi J. Montessi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: 
linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.install,comp.os.linux.setup,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: connecting to internet via command line
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 20:39:54 -0500

Max posed:
> 
> can anyone please tell me how to connect to the internet from command line.
> i used to do it fine using kppp in kde on linx red hat 6.
> my x windows has crashed bad, my floppy drive does not work and i need some
> files urgently.
> 
> many thanks
> max

Assuming you have properly set up to run without kde/kppp you can
try ~/sbin ifup ppp0.  ftp and lynx will work without X, assuming,
of course, you've set them up.  One should not depend on anything
"windows", X included.  In linux, the command line is always there.

-- 
Rinaldi]$
I think we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too
many parasites living on the labor of the industrious. - Thomas
Jefferson

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Reply-To: "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: what setup of Redhat 6.1 is most similar to WIN95/98?
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 17:38:27 -0800


"Donald Parsons MD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...

> Some Windows users want to be convinced that they can dispense with
> Windows98 and use a setup of linux that will do all of the same things.
> If anyone knows if this is possible, please list all the installation
> steps.

Well, it depends on what you do in Windows, and whether or not there are
corresponding Linux apps.  For the "average" user, who mostly uses his
computer to surf the web, use email, and write and print letters and other
documents, all of these things can be accomodated well by Linux, and for
free.  Nescape Communicator is just like it is in Windows, and there are
several excellent word processors available, including Wordperfect and
Framemaker.  GIMP is an excellent Photoshop clone, with 90% of the
functionality, and 0% of the cost.  There are some simpler financial
programs, but as yet there's nothing quite like Quicken.  What do you need?

If you're using Redhat, install using the "workstation" option.  A Windows
user should feel most at home with KDE, so select that as your desktop.  If
you don't have a boxed Redhat set with the documentation, most of it is
available online at www.redhat.com.  Read up a bit, follow the directions,
and away you go.

Matt O.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,sg.linux
Subject: Problem in installing staroffice
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 09:58:51 +0800

Hi, could anyone help? i keep getting a "Segmentation fault" followed by
a core dump during installation of my staroffice. I downloaded the
application in separately in 7 modules and untar in a home/user
directory. After running ./setup at command, the above error appeared.
Is there a way to decipher the core for some clues?

I'm using RH6.1 on a Pentium 90 (overclocked to 100mhz) with 48M ram.
Any help appreciated and thanks in advance.

Regards
Damon


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