Linux-Misc Digest #724, Volume #23                Wed, 1 Mar 00 18:13:06 EST

Contents:
  Re: recursive grep? (Hal Burgiss)
  Linux compatible HP printer (Bernard Debreil)
  Re: staroffice (Matt Starnes)
  Compiling qt-1.44 under Linux-Mandrake 7.0 ("���¿�")
  ip config (Hal)
  Re: Setting ASCII screen colors in Linux? (Syed Imran Haider Rizvi)
  timed- running but not working (Bill Keeler)
  Re: Possible to delete files by group ID? ("rob")
  Compiling qt under Linux-Mandrake 7.0 ("���¿�")
  Permissions... (Alex Lam)
  Re: Opinions About VMWare Windows Emulator (Julio C. Gutierrez)
  Re: RedHat - Suse (Manuel Alducin)
  Re: Opinions About VMWare Windows Emulator (Steve Lamb)
  Re: Permissions... (Nathan Cuka)
  Re: SCSI over IDE/ATAPI (Bob Hauck)
  SoftOSS: Only some channels play (Rod Smith)
  Re: Which distribution is better (Newbie question) (Arman)
  Re: Permissions... (Alex Lam)
  Re: What is MAGIC COOKIE and why cant I run apps as su? (Rick)
  Re: Removing Lilo? (Leonard Evens)
  Re: SMB Passwords ("Terry Mulvany")

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: recursive grep?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 21:11:46 GMT

On 1 Mar 2000 20:42:06 GMT, Frank Miles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Vilmos Soti  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>"Andrew Arrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> Is there anyway to grep for a a specific strings recursively
>>> throughout an entire directory and all it's sub-directories?
>>> 
>>> $ grep "stringIwant" *.*
>>> 
>>> But I want more than just *.*, I want all the files in every
>>> sub-directory too.
>>
>>grep -r "StringIwant" *
>
>What grep are you using?  GNU's grep doesn't do that.


Sure it does. This was added at some point, and has been there for a
while.


   -r, --recursive
         Read all files under each directory, recursively; this is
         equivalent to the -d recurse option.

[...]

GNU Project             1998/11/22                          1

-- 
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bernard Debreil)
Crossposted-To: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Linux compatible HP printer
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 15:54:30 GMT

Hi there,

My printer, a HP Deskjet 600, is in the process of giving up. Chances
are that I could get it to last for some more time, but I have found too
many inconveniences with this model, especially since I have (partly)
switched to Linux :

 - The "econofast" mode is not available in Linux environment... or, if
it is, I have not found the way to get it implemented. As a result,
printing pages is about four times as slow under Linux, as it is under
Windows. 

 - Worse yet, under Linux, it uses up at least twice as much ink than
under Windows, despites the GS option '-dDepletion=2', which option
seems unoperative. 

 - Ink cartridges are quite expensive for the HP Deskjet 600 (200 FF a
bottle here, which would be about $35, I used up at least 4 cartridges a
year when on Windows...)

Therefore, I wish to replace this printer by another HP inkjet, with the
following features :

1. Price in the range of $150 - 350

2. Workable under Linux, with "econofast" mode, or with another fast
economic mode

3. Cheaper in ink consumption than HP Deskjet 600, if possible.

4. Flat top, overall shape as close as possible as that of HPdj 600 (I
have installed a scanner on the printer top, which is very convenient,
especially since the scanner cable is very short).

Thanks for any recommendation.
==============================================================

Bernard DEBREIL
===============
Le Chesnay (France)
Home Page: http://www.teaser.fr/~bdebreil/


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From: Matt Starnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: staroffice
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 15:32:41 -0600

So the learning curve would be much shorter.  You also cut down on
training expenses.

Matt

Ian Mortimer wrote:

> What the hell ?
>
> It's Windows - aaaaaaagh.
>
> What happened to the fresh and original interfaces that make linux such
> a pleasure to use ?
> Why does staroffice look and behave like windows ?
>
> Are there any other wordprocessors (apart from WP)/ spreadsheets out
> there that DON'T look like the windows counterparts ?
>
> Ian.


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From: "���¿�" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Compiling qt-1.44 under Linux-Mandrake 7.0
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 06:11:53 +0900

Hello,

I installed Linux-Mandrake 7.0 and tried to compile qt-1.44-15mdk.src.rpm to
apply some unofficial patches.
The spec file from the source rpm says it requires Mesa-devel & lesstif
packages.  The Mesa-devel was included and already installed and I got
lesstif-0.89.9-1mdk.src.rpm from a Mandrake contribution directory of some
ftp and installed it, too.
Now even without the patches I was going to apply, the original qt-1.44
source rpm fails to compile.
Does anyone know what I'm missing?
I'd appreciate any help.  Thank you.



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From: Hal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ip config
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 21:29:51 +0000

Please help. I need to bring up the windows equivalent of a "post dial
terminal screen" so i can use my internet account.
I am using RH6.0 the Gnome GUI. I have found the Kppp panel but need to
know
if i can make it dial out first, then bring up a screen to log on.
Thanks in advance,
Hal




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From: Syed Imran Haider Rizvi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Setting ASCII screen colors in Linux?
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 21:30:50 GMT


william henry hsu wrote:
> 
> 
> [Sorry for the redundant cross-post, but either my news reader is burping
>  or one of the NGs in my cross-post list is moderated and causing the 
others
>  not to go through.  --- WHH]
> 
>         Is there a way to remap the default screen colors (just the Linux
> terminal screen colors --- not X colors) in Linux?  I'm running RHL 6.1
> on a Linux box in my office, and have TERM set to "linux".  I connect
> to it via dialup from my Windows 2000 system at home, using PenguiNet
> for Windows 95/NT/2000.  PenguiNet has ssh but (AFAIK) none of the
> screen color customizability features that Windows Telnet or Teraterm
> has, and I'd like to be able to get my good old-fashioned lime-on-black
> green screen.
> 
>         Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> Bill
> 
> =======================================================
>  William H. Hsu, Ph.D.
>  Assistant Professor of CIS, Kansas State University
>  Research Scientist, Automated Learning Group, NCSA
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  http://www.cis.ksu.edu/~bhsu           ICQ: 28651394
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From: Bill Keeler <"bkeeler"@[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ""bkeeler\"@[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Subject: timed- running but not working
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 14:37:00 -0700

I'm trying to do two things:  (1) Make my Linux box respond to UDP
packets on port 13 with the time, (2) have my Linux box contact a
timeserver on the Internet each day to update its system time (and the
RTC in CMOS if possible).

I have a program I wrote for Windows that can connect to time servers
like time-a.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov, and retrieve the current time.  I have
run "timed -M" on my Linux box from the command line.  I can put it into
one of the startup scripts later, after it's working.  (Which script is
the best place?)

Now when I try to query my server (with timed running) from one of my
Windows boxes, just using the server's IP address, the connection times
out.  It looks as though my server is ignoring these requests.  Again,
requests from Windows to one of the time servers on the Internet work
fine.

What do I need to do?

Thanks,

Bill




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From: "rob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Possible to delete files by group ID?
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 14:35:50 -0700

rm `find /spool -group lp -mtime +2`

<snip>
>Is it possible to delete a set of files in a given directory based on
>their group ownership?
<snip>



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From: "���¿�" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Compiling qt under Linux-Mandrake 7.0
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 02:44:16 +0900

Hello,

I installed Linux-Mandrake 7.0 and tried to compile qt-1.44-15mdk.src.rpm to
apply some unofficial patches.
The spec file from the source rpm says it requires Mesa-devel & lesstif
packages.  The Mesa-devel was included and already installed and I got
lesstif-0.89.9-1mdk.src.rpm from a Mandrake contribution directory of some
ftp and installed it, too.
Now even without the patches I was going to apply, the original qt-1.44
source rpm fails to compile.
Does anyone know what I'm missing?
I'd appreciate any help.  Thank you.



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From: Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Permissions...
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 15:02:47 -0800

Hi,

Why I have given the whole world the permissions to access both CD-R/RW,
DVD-ROM and Floppy as root, but when others login as non root, into one
of the permitted group, and still got permission denied?


Alex Lam.

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From: Julio C. Gutierrez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Opinions About VMWare Windows Emulator
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 21:56:05 GMT


I am currently running VMWare 1.1 in my linux box as a test. Here
is my opinion about it.

I will start saying that it is completely incredible. I mean, the
concept is not new, as I have read that creating virtual machines
is something that VMS (?) has been doing for some time. The 
incredible thing is that it creates a PC within a PC. A complete 
PC with its own BIOS, its own IDE disks, floppy, amount of memory,
ports, etc, etc.
You can tailor-make your virtual PC to meet your needs. You can
even attach a network card (virtual of course) to the Virtual PC
so that you can have communication with the linux host via standard 
TCP/IP networking protocols.


Stability:
As far as I have seen, it's stable. There is no problem with 
applications, as it is not a kind of API translator, but a hardware
emulator, which is very different. Applications talk to windows, and
windows talk to the "hardware", so the reliability of an application
will be exactly the same inside VMware than it would be on top of 
real hardware.

Performance:
Of course a thing like this eats up as many cpu cycles as it can. They
reccomend as a _minimum_ a PII-266 and 96 Mb of RAM. I am running it 
on a AMD K6-450 with 128 Mb. I run win98 inside a virtual machine 
configured to eat 64 Mb of my RAM, and for you to make an idea, win98
takes 1 minute 50 seconds from the moment I turn on the virtual machine
until it is 100% loaded and can be used. Of course you will never get
the same performance on virtual hardware than you would get on the real
one, but with the configuration I have now I am sattisfied. I only run 
"productivity" software, such as M$ Office, my Palm sync software, etc.
and I can work perfectly comfortable. Plus, I have a real linux system
running behind, which in the one hand saves me from having to be all the
time resetting the PC changing from linux to windows and back to linux,
and on the other hand I have a rock-solid and stable OS behind in which
I can rely.

It has several more advantages. For instance, if you want to make a backup
of your virtual windows 98, you just copy the huge file representing the
HD, and that's it. Something happens, you just replace the file and you
have there it all: windows, applications, data, everything.


About the linux inside a linux, of course it is possible. As you say,
this is a hardware emulator, so it accepts a variety of OSs on top 
of it. They include MSDOS, windows95/98/2000/NT, all linuxes, and I
don't know if some more. I know for a fact that some OSs for x86 
machines do not run in vmware, as OS/2, BeOS, and some others, but
personally, I don't care. :-)
As you say, it is a perfect testing environment, both for developing
and also just for the fun of it. Say, I use suse and never tried debian
or red hat. Ok, instead of having to repartition my HD and get the fear
of God in me just in case I do something wrong, I would just set up a
virtual machine and load debian inside it. :)  You don't like it? That's
what the rm command was designed for. :)

I have seen a lot of good implementation ideas for this wondeful piece
of softare at their web site http://www.vmware.com. You could have a 
look there and I'm sure that more ideas will come up your mind.


Fraser Orr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I read recently about VMWare's virtual machine
> system that enables Windows etc to run under
> Linux. I wonder if anyone has an opinion about
> this product, particularly if there are any
> problems with running applications, if it is
> stable (or at least as stable as Windows 98
> is anyway :-), and how much of a performance
> hit it takes.

> It seems to me that, assuming there are positive
> answers to these questions, that this could
> be a serious killer app. I notice that version
> two has complete suspend and restore to file
> (i.e., no need wait five minutes for a windows
> reboot) and this feature alone would sell me
> on it. In fact, for many people who work exclusively
> with windows, it might be worth running windows
> under Linux just to get this latter feature.

> (For business use my customers use MS-Windows
> and MS-Office, so I need to work primarily with
> Windows. But I am a Unix person at heart.)

> Since it is not beer or speech free, I presume
> the source is not available, or am I wrong?

> (One other question, given that this provides
> a virtual machine, would this be a good tool for
> kernel developers. I.e., run a stable Linux
> release natively, but run a development version
> in the vm?)




-- 
Julio C. Gutierrez -- Please remove both X to send email
Penguins live only in cool environments... ;)

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From: Manuel Alducin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RedHat - Suse
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 22:03:53 GMT

Well RH has a Secure Web server edition but last time I checked it was
still only for exclusive US sale. Maybe next version now that crypto
laws are changing. So Suse might be your only choice in this case.

Norbert Zawodsky wrote:
> 
> Hello everybody!
> 
> Can someone help me to decide which distribution to buy? I'm specifically
> interested, if there is a difference with the apache server between RH & Suse.
> Does one of them support encrypted ('secure') connections?
> 
> Thanks,
> Norbert
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Subject: Re: Opinions About VMWare Windows Emulator
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Lamb)
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 22:13:42 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Julio C. Gutierrez) wrote in 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>As far as I have seen, it's stable. There is no problem with 
>applications, as it is not a kind of API translator, but a hardware
>emulator, which is very different.

    Actually, it isn't that, either.  IIRC VMWare is more or less a filter of 
sorts.  Any call that is allowed is made directly.  Any call which can cause 
problems is virtualized.

>It has several more advantages. For instance, if you want to make a backup
>of your virtual windows 98, you just copy the huge file representing the
>HD, and that's it. Something happens, you just replace the file and you
>have there it all: windows, applications, data, everything.

    Also, a slight clarification here.  You /can/ put the image in a file on 
the linux file system, however, it isn't a requirement.  VMWare is able to 
boot from a drive just as easily as it can from a file.  

    Let me explain with the setup of VMWare that I had (1.1, trial).  I ran 
it under Debian Linux (Slink) and had 9 partitions on the two drives I had.  
Windows boot, Linux boot, 3 data on drive 1; 4 data on drive 2.  I would use 
lilo to multiboot and boot into Linux.  Start X, start up VMWare and then 
told VMWare that /dev/hda was IDE0 and /dev/hdb was IDE2.  I would then boot 
the virtual machine.  It would look on the boot record of /dev/hda and boot 
with lilo right into the same menu.  If I didn't tell it to it would have 
booted Debian again since that was the default.  Tell it to boot Windows.  On 
the Windows side I had two configurations.  I'd chose the "real" 
configuration for when I was under real hardware and the "virtual" 
configuration for when running under the VM.  As a result video display 
drivers, network settings and so on would switch automatically.  

    Now, here is the important part.  This means that I was booting the exact 
same Windows I would boot from the machine level.  All drives were mapped 
identically, all applicatins were in the same location, the registry is 
identical.  This means I didn't have to reinstall anything for the "VMWare 
Windows" because it /was/ my windows box.  I did this so I could play with my 
productivity applications under VM but when I wanted to play games which 
required full access to the machine I could reboot to Windows and play my 
games.

>virtual machine and load debian inside it. :)  You don't like it? That's
>what the rm command was designed for. :)

    Or have it boot back into itself to see if that kernel you just compiled 
really works.  If so, then boot the main machine.  :)

    Personally my next Linux box is designed with VMWare in mind.  Dual CPUs, 
SMP kernel and VMWare.  1 CPU for the host OS, 1 CPU for the guest OS.  :)

-- 
         Steve C. Lamb         | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your
         ICQ: 5107343          | main connection to the switchboard of souls.
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From: Nathan Cuka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Permissions...
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 16:22:07 -0600



Alex Lam wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Why I have given the whole world the permissions to access both CD-R/RW,
> DVD-ROM and Floppy as root, but when others login as non root, into one
> of the permitted group, and still got permission denied?

Did you set the user option in /etc/fstab for the particular device?
Unless you do this, then they can not mount, and hence, access, the
drives.

--
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| Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| ZEFER Corporation.......http://www.zefer.com
|
| import com.standard.Disclaimer;
==============================================



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: SCSI over IDE/ATAPI
Date: 1 Mar 2000 22:25:15 GMT
Reply-To: bobh{at}slc{dot}codem{dot}com

On Wed, 01 Mar 2000 20:10:07 GMT, Stuart R. Fuller
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>One of the things I've noticed is that when the IDE disks on my system
>get busy doing something, I lose a LOT of serial port data.

man hdparm
hdparm -u 1 /dev/hda

-- 
 -| Bob Hauck
 -| Loose Cannon
 -| http://www.bobh.org/

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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: SoftOSS: Only some channels play
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 22:27:11 GMT

Hi,

I've been toying with the SoftOSS support in the standard Linux kernel
(version 2.2.13 for the moment) and I'm having problems with it.
Specifically, only about half the channels appear to play. For instance, a
given MIDI file might use an acoustic piano, a flute, and a french horn,
but only the french horn part plays (this example is made up; I've not
tried to ascertain just what instruments do and do not play, or if it's
even consistent). I've tried using both the freeware MIDIA sample set an
an old Pro Patch sample set I had from the days when I used a GUS PnP on
one system, but I get similar results with both. FWIW, I'm using a generic
board based on an OPTi MAD16 sound chipset. Does anybody have any ideas on
this? Do I need to create some sort of configuration file to tell the
driver which patches to use? Thanks for any help.

-- 
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux networking & WordPerfect for Linux

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arman)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Which distribution is better (Newbie question)
Date: 1 Mar 2000 22:29:07 GMT
Reply-To: soyayya(at)xs(four)all(dot)nl

In article <89h33o$14l$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        "Bal�zs J�vor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm not new to computers though, so I'm don't necessarily look for the
> distribution which is
> the easiest to install or maintain.

Sounds like Slackware/Debian

>but I've also read that because of the different
> distributions use different
> directory structures it may still be problematic.
There is a Filesystem Hierarchy Standard (forgive the spelling, I have a French
version). If you want to move your files around easily, you'd prefer a
down-to-earth distro like one of the above

> And of course there are dozens of other distributions left.

Which are all rather alike, once installed. I think that if you like to fool
around in the system, you're helped with plain and easy to find configuration
files. The more sophisticated installation/configuration uitilities (though I
have experience with Suse only) are just one extra layer in the system.

cheers

Arman






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From: Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Permissions...
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 15:44:04 -0800

Nathan Cuka wrote:
> 
> Alex Lam wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > Why I have given the whole world the permissions to access both CD-R/RW,
> > DVD-ROM and Floppy as root, but when others login as non root, into one
> > of the permitted group, and still got permission denied?
> 
> Did you set the user option in /etc/fstab for the particular device?
> Unless you do this, then they can not mount, and hence, access, the
> drives.
> 
Yes I did. I set the permission as root, but non-root users cannot even
mount the devices. The problem is only with the Linux box -2.2.13 SMP
kernel, but not the identical FreeBSD box.

Strange?

Alex Lam.

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From: Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: What is MAGIC COOKIE and why cant I run apps as su?
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 17:43:10 -0500

S Bond wrote:
> 
> Rick wrote:
> >
> > Bill Unruh wrote:
> > >
> > > In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > > >Thanks for all the help... I have used the xhost +localhost...
> > >
> > > >Now.. can anyone tellme what bad things can happen using this command?
> > >
> > > It allows anyone, local or remote, running on localhost to both listen
> > > in on anything you type or display in your X session, or to hijack your
> > > X session.
> >
> > Thanks for the info and the previous file. Could you answer another
> > question? Is there a way to undo the permissions that were granted by
> > the file you suggested in the erlier message?
> >
> > --
> > To reply by email remove NOSPAM from my address.
> 
> xhost -localhost

Thanks--so simple... I really should have thought of it.

-- 
Rick
* To email me remove NOSPAM from my address *

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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Removing Lilo?
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 16:26:20 -0600

jdn wrote:
> 
> Okay, one obvious thing is to run fdisk /mbr from DOS.  Which is fine, it
> boots back into DOS, but then, of course, I can't delete the Linux
> partitions since it sees it as an extended DOS partition with logical drives
> existing, but doesn't show the logical drives to allow you to delete them.

I'm not sure I understand that.  But have you tried just removing
the extended partition with the DOS fdisk?   These are just
entries in the partition table which is a few bytes in the
master boot record.   It's hard to believe that DOS/Windows
doesn't have tools to repartition, but I suppose it is possible.

> 
> So, do I need to:
> 
> 1) Reinstall Linux
> 2) Create Linux boot floppy so it runs off that.
> 3) Fdisk from the Linux boot floppy to get rid of Linux partitions
> 4) *Then* fdisk from DOS?

If you have to do it this way, probably the best way to proceed
is to use a Linux rescue floppy.   Get tom's root/boot disk
from
www.toms.net/rb/home.html
You can make a root/boot disk using Windows if I remember
correctly.   Then you can boot using it, run fdisk and use
it to delete the partitions.


> 
> jdn
> "jdn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:Gpbv4.1016$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I have a box which I want to triple-boot with DOS, Linux, and Solaris.
> >
> > Originally, it had DOS.  Linux was then installed using all remaining
> > available disk space on the first disk (two 4 GB hard drives installed).
> > Solaris 8, for reasons unknown to man, requires space on first disk to
> > install.  So, Linux was removed.  However, Lilo was not removed properly,
> so
> > it always starts on boot.  Typing DOS at boot prompt does properly boot
> into
> > DOS, but I'd like to remove Lilo completely, so that it will boot straight
> > into DOS.  Then, I'll install Solaris.  Then, I'll install Linux and
> > configure it so it will  boot into any of the three (I know how to do this
> > with NT's boot loader, never tried it with Lilo, but I'll cross that
> bridge
> > when I get there).
> >
> > Question is, how do I remove Lilo?  I read a HowTo page off of Linux.com,
> > but the options described there don't seem to work.  Running fdisk /mbr
> when
> > booted into RedHat Linux 6.1 (Gnome Workstation install) doesn't work.
> > Since Linux was uninstalled improperly (e.g. "operator error"), I don't
> have
> > a file in the requisite subdirectory of /boot to dd back.  Format /s from
> > DOS doesn't work.
> >
> > Sorry if this is obvious, but I'm clueless on what to do here.  Any
> > suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  Since this newsgroup is busy,
> any
> > replies to my e-mail (kingcrim at earthlink dot net) are fine as well.
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > jdn
> >
> >
> >

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Leonard Evens      [EMAIL PROTECTED]      847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208

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From: "Terry Mulvany" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SMB Passwords
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 23:09:15 GMT

As an ordinary user you use smbpasswd to change your own password. As root,
use smbpasswd <userid> to change a specific users samba password.  The
passwords are kept in /etc/smbpasswd file, this is not related to the
/etc/passwd file (normal user password file).

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>How do I change SMB passwords?  Thanks
>
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