Linux-Misc Digest #724, Volume #25 Sun, 10 Sep 00 14:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: A Very Simple Question Concerning My Windows Disapearing Act (Akira Yamanita)
Re: ideal laptop for linux? (Steve)
Re: SMTP Authentication ("D. C. Sessions")
Re: Question: cron and tape backups ("D. C. Sessions")
Re: Linux Performance w/ DSL??? (Hal Burgiss)
problems with configuring ESS Maestro soundcard (Ray Fencey)
Re: End-User Alternative to Windows (sinister-catsup)
Re: End-User Alternative to Windows (sinister-catsup)
Re: End-User Alternative to Windows (sinister-catsup)
Re: Removing duplicate lines from a text file (John Thompson)
Re: End-User Alternative to Windows ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux Performance w/ DSL??? ("B. Joshua Rosen")
Re: Help Needed Configuring Remote Printer on SUSE 6.4 (Henrik Carlqvist)
Re: Linux Performance w/ DSL??? ("Ron Bookman")
Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Re: End-User Alternative to Windows ("Ingemar Lundin")
Re: End-User Alternative to Windows (Dave Martel)
Re: Have An Hour?(Maybe Two) Alright Proceed....... ("James D. McIninch")
Re: End-User Alternative to Windows (Grega Bremec)
Re: Removing duplicate lines from a text file ("Brad Hein")
Re: End-User Alternative to Windows (robert w hall)
Re: windows/linux hd (Fester)
Re: Networking (Ermanno Sartori)
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From: Akira Yamanita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A Very Simple Question Concerning My Windows Disapearing Act
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 15:12:18 GMT
Bud Rogers wrote:
>
> N/A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > hey,
> > what is the name of the file i can open in Linux to set Windows as a
> > possible bootable OS? i have windows98 installed but not able to run
> > because at the startup of Linux Mandrake 7.0 i am only given the options
> > Linux and Floppy to boot up. i would like to change this. so how can i do
> > that and if you know what is the name of that file so i can go into it. i
> > think it is something like /etc/X11/...... but i can not remember the
> > rest. thank you.
>
> troll
Asking about dual-booting is now a trolling activity? I think
you're overreacting.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Subject: Re: ideal laptop for linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 10 Sep 2000 16:52:26 +0100
<RANT>
There is no ideal laptop for anything apart from landfill.
They're all crap and just a ploy to get more money out of you
for something you've seen in a Jame Bond movie than you'd actually
pay for something that works.
You could probably get two reasonable desktops for the price
you'd pay for a laptop. Removable HDs in a rack, that'd do the
trick.
Don't buy a WAP phone either they're all crap aswell.
</RANT>
--
Cheers
Steve email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
%HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee 0 pps.
web http://www.zeropps.uklinux.net/
or http://start.at/zero-pps
4:32pm up 19 days, 20:45, 2 users, load average: 1.23, 1.13, 1.04
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From: "D. C. Sessions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 08:53:23 -0700
John Thompson wrote:
>
> Arash Sayadi wrote:
>
> > I have setup a Linux box with kernal 2.2.12-20, Red Hat 6.1, and Gnome on a
> > PII300 MMX system.
> >
> > I have subscribed to DialFree.net for free Linux dialup. On their systems,
> > they require SMTP authentication on all outgoing mail. I have yet to find a
> > Linux X11 mail client (preferably for Gnome) that has SMTP authentication
> > available.
> >
> > Does anyone know of a workaround for this or a mail client that does the
> > SMTP authentication?
>
> Have you tried configuring sendmail on your own machine to
> deliver the mail directly rather than relaying through
> DialFree.net's smtp service?
A lot of ISPs are blocking outgoing port 25 traffic except from
their own servers (thanks to spammers). Requiring authentication
is another step of this sort, so don't be surprised if Port 25
blocking is in effect.
--
| Engineers solve problems -- it's what we do. |
| Do you want to be a problem? |
| D. C. Sessions === [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
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From: "D. C. Sessions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Question: cron and tape backups
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 09:03:32 -0700
Robert Jones wrote:
>
> "Andrew N. McGuire" wrote:
>
> > [ please set your word wrap to something kinder ]
>
> Oops. Done. I'm afraid an admonition me from would not have been as gentle.
I can live with the line length, but the MIME Multipart/HTML
formatting is generally considered worse.
--
| Engineers solve problems -- it's what we do. |
| Do you want to be a problem? |
| D. C. Sessions === [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Linux Performance w/ DSL???
Reply-To: Hal Burgiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 16:06:14 GMT
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000 08:50:39 -0500, Jerry L Kreps
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm running ADSL through a Cicso 675 dhcp server supplied by my ISP.
>The service is Tier I (384Kb I think) and I peak at about 38K
>bytes/sec, which I figure is about 80% max. Does this seem normal or
>are there tweeks
>I can do on my SuSE 6.3 to improve performance? I'm not using pppoe.
You lose a certain amount to networking overhead. How much? Probably
varies from ISP to ISP, and also how/where you are testing this. I would
think you'd lose at least 10% right off the top, no matter how you test.
Check this out:
http://feenix.eyep.net/ldp/adsl/tuning.html
Look at the tuning, and throughput sections.
--
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Ray Fencey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: problems with configuring ESS Maestro soundcard
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 16:14:26 GMT
hi everyone
got a little problem with a ESS Maestro soundcard and wondered if anyone
has come across the same card and its soln.
the card in question is actually a Videologic 5D Sonic which is a (pci)
graphix card and soundcard on the same board - the graphix card works
fine, but its the sound card (well, the sound bit :) taht i cant figure
out.
with a no-sound-modules-included-2.2-kernel, doing a `lspci -v` reports:
...
00:12.1 Multimedia audio controller: Platform Technologies, Inc.:
Unknown device 0100 (rev 10)
Subsystem: Unknown device 1285:1010
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 10
I/O ports at e800
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Tseng Labs Inc ET6000 (rev 70)
Flags: slow devsel, IRQ 11
Memory at fd000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
I/O ports at c800
...
the maestro doc in the kernel src tree tells me that the sound chip is
indeed an ESS Maestro AGOGO (looking at the 0100 device id and a 1285
pci id).
so after reading the sound docs from the 2.2.17 kernel i built the
required sound modules into the kernel (CONFIG_SOUND=y and
CONFIG_SOUND_MAESTRO=y were the only options selected in the 'sound'
section of make config)
after rebooting, the kernel reports back on bootup:
...
maestro: version 0.14 time 16:36:06 Sep 10 2000
maestro: Configuring ESS Maestro found at IO 0xE800 IRQ 10
maestro: subvendor id: 0x10101285
maestro: not attempting power management.
maestro: my goodness! you seem to have a pt101 codec, which is
quite rare.
you should tell someone about this.
maestro: 1 channels configured.
...
and indeed the /dev/dsp device is available (i can do `echo "" >
/dev/dsp` and it doesnt complain about no such device). however, when i
try to use the device, by playing a cd, catting au/wavs to /dev/dsp
there is nothing coming out of the speakers (and yes, i have plugged the
speakers into the card :)
the /proc fs seems to think that its there also
/proc/devices
Characeter devices:
...
14 sound
...
/proc/ioports
...
e800-e8ff
...
/proc/interrupts
...
10: 1 XT-PIC ESS Maestro
...
i would be very grateful if someone could help me out with this one and
point out anything that is obviously wrong - i've been trying to sort
this out for a little while now without much success :(
thanks in advance
ray
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Before you buy.
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Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
From: sinister-catsup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 12:26:26 -0400
>=20
> Had Commodore packaged and marketed the Amiga as an office system
> rather than a kid's toy, they could have blown the IBM/Microsoft team
> right out of the water.
not to be a negative nelly (Sorry, I hate flanders to) but,
coulda-shoulda-woulda: You can argue the same thing towards Mac, if jobs =
had
aggressively pushed the mac when he had his window of oppurtunity, we'd a=
ll be
using macs now, but Mac never did get pushed, OS/2, same thing, technical=
ly the
superior product of it's time, but IBM is a hardware company and lacked =
the
ability to push it's poduct. Amiga is before my time.
But in the present, I see the Be people and even the BSD people doing the=
same
thing wrong, QNX to for that matter. I personally think BSD is not leavin=
g the
geek level any time soon, but both BeOS and QNX have easy to use interfac=
es and
the potential ability to port a shitload of linux apps to their system as=
well
and build their own, but I dont see them pushing their poducts hard enoug=
h and
I do think there is a market for disgruntled Mickeysoft users looking for=
an
alternative.=20
I like seeing bigger companies embracing linux, and the biggest obstacle =
to
folks like QNX and Be are things like driver support, lack of apps and ha=
rdware
compatability, they need to work on these things.
Rambling aside my point is simple, there are potentially good operating s=
ystem
alternatives out there, but what got Mr Gates where he is today is not hi=
s
technology, it was his sales force. Think about it.
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Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
From: sinister-catsup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 12:35:49 -0400
jabali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >jabali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> >> Linux is currently the only end-user system alternative to windows o=
n a PC=20
> >> (IBM compatible in older terminology). Of course you also have Mac-O=
S.
> >
> >And what about BeOS? Or Net/open/FreeBSD? Or Hurd?
> >(OK, Hurd's not ready yet, but I here it sorta works ish).
>=20
> BeOS & FreeBSD are around for years. As OS they are certainly good. But=
as an
> alternative desktop to Windows - well, does anybody really take them th=
at
> seriously ?
>=20
> --=20
>=20
> jabali
Imho, no, for the following reasons.
BeOS is a good system with alot of potential, but it lacks some fundament=
al
hardware compatiblity and driver support and lacks the range of apps with
windozians have come to expect, likewise there are too many little hardwa=
re
gizmos they have come to be accustomed to that are not yet supported, And=
again
I feel the Be salesforce needs to be a shitload more aggressive, same rea=
sons
apply to QNX, a similar system with similar potential and similar limitat=
ions.
BSD is on the other hand, just too damn advanced for the typical user, I =
cant
see the typical nonpower user being willing to compile c code everything =
they
install something new. (I know some hate rpm, but that is Linux's alterna=
tive
to winzip, and does help newbies shy away from the tedium of compiling c =
code.)
Just a thought for the BSDers out there
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Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
From: sinister-catsup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 12:40:31 -0400
Dave Martel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 9 Sep 2000 19:27:57 +0100, jabali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>=20
> >IBM has stopped its development and no further versions will be issued=
=2E It may
> >remain around for years to come, just like Atari-TOS is still around. =
But you
> >would not advise anybody to take it as a viable alternative, would you=
?
>=20
> From watching the news it kinda looks like IBM wants linux to take the
> place of OS2?
I've thought that once or twice. Sad thing is that if you gave OS/2 a min=
or
facelift and a working TCP/Ip stack, you would likley have a contender wi=
th the
right sales effort.
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Removing duplicate lines from a text file
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 09:18:42 -0500
Fester wrote:
> I could've sworn grep or cat had a way to do this, but I'm not seeing it
> on their man pages.
>
> What's the way to do this?
How 'bout "sort" with the -m and -u switches?
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 11:52:14 -0500
On Sat, 09 Sep 2000 14:44:06 -0500, Dave Martel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>The Amiga was WAY ahead of its time.
Yep. IMO, that still doesn't mean it's up to date with
current times, but it was way ahead.
>Commodore designed the most wonderful machines despite the limited
>technology of the day but kept throwing it all away with some of the
>worst marketing mistakes I've seen in the history of technology.
Commodore didn't design the Amiga. Someone else (I forget who)
developed it, and Commodore bought it from them. That's why it
has so little resemblance to their earlier machines. Myself, the
computer I first learned to use and program was a Commodore 8032,
which was out well before the Vic-20 and C-64.
--
Stephen Whitis
Email replies should go to...
scw120198 (at) whitis.com
The address in the header is not valid.
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From: "B. Joshua Rosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Linux Performance w/ DSL???
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 13:07:56 -0400
80% is about right, the best I get is 84% (i.e. 1350K/bits on a 1600K
line) and it typically delivers around 81% (i.e. 1300). The absolute
limit is a combination of TCP/IP overhead and ATM overhead. ATM alone as
a 10% overhead. TCP/IP is best case 2.6% for large packets (1500 bytes)
and obviously much more for small packets.
Jerry L Kreps wrote:
>
> I'm running ADSL through a Cicso 675 dhcp server supplied by my ISP.
> The service is Tier I (384Kb I think) and I peak at about 38K bytes/sec,
> which I figure is about 80% max. Does this seem normal or are there
> tweeks
> I can do on my SuSE 6.3 to improve performance? I'm not using pppoe.
> JLK
>
> Hal Burgiss wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 09 Sep 2000 23:53:13 -0500, Jem Berkes
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >Wow! I used used the WinNT registry fix (RWIN change) and performance
> > >really did increase in Windows web browsers and FTP programs.
> > >
> > >About MTU though... I had already tweaked that on my linux box (i.e.
> > >lowering the clamp MSS value in rp-pppoe until web pages no longer
> > >stalled). Should I also change the MTU on my Windows machines?
> >
> > Somewhere rp-pppoe covers this in one of the docs nicely. If not
> > included in the package, it is definitely on the roaringpenguin website.
> > IIRC, you can either do it the way you have, or set it at each
> > individual interface.
> >
> > --
> > Hal B
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > --
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From: Henrik Carlqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Help Needed Configuring Remote Printer on SUSE 6.4
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 20:24:54 +0200
Tom Millington wrote:
> I am a newbie trying to put Linux on another server, namely an old
> P133 (Altos) that has 3 x 4.5Gb SCSI hard drives and a SCSI CDROM.
> I have tried to use the Linux boot floppy but neither the hard drives
> nor the CD are seen - in other words it says I have no hard drives or
> CD player.
You will have to use a boot floppy which supports your scsi card. Which
distribution are you trying to install? Slackware has different floppies
for different SCSI controllers.
regards Henrik
--
spammer strikeback:
root@localhost
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Ron Bookman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Linux Performance w/ DSL???
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 12:12:08 -0500
I agree 80% is about tops. Just remember that in addition to the various
protocol overheads, your DSL link is only the last of many hops it takes to
get somewhere useful. If you're still a bit sluggish on downloading large
files in general, try a large download from one of your ISP's servers to cut
down on the number of hops between endpoints and see what kind of
performance you get then. It will give you a more accurate picture of how
your end of the path is performing.
"Jerry L Kreps" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm running ADSL through a Cicso 675 dhcp server supplied by my ISP.
> The service is Tier I (384Kb I think) and I peak at about 38K bytes/sec,
> which I figure is about 80% max. Does this seem normal or are there
> tweeks
> I can do on my SuSE 6.3 to improve performance? I'm not using pppoe.
> JLK
>
>
> Hal Burgiss wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 09 Sep 2000 23:53:13 -0500, Jem Berkes
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >Wow! I used used the WinNT registry fix (RWIN change) and performance
> > >really did increase in Windows web browsers and FTP programs.
> > >
> > >About MTU though... I had already tweaked that on my linux box (i.e.
> > >lowering the clamp MSS value in rp-pppoe until web pages no longer
> > >stalled). Should I also change the MTU on my Windows machines?
> >
> > Somewhere rp-pppoe covers this in one of the docs nicely. If not
> > included in the package, it is definitely on the roaringpenguin website.
> > IIRC, you can either do it the way you have, or set it at each
> > individual interface.
> >
> > --
> > Hal B
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > --
>
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 08:51:48 -0700
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Kenny A. Chaffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> There are no alternatives,
>
> Bill is a jealous god.
True! But a teams of warriors from the Ta'Re with help from a independent
Ja'Fa can defeat him.
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From: "Ingemar Lundin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 17:31:25 GMT
rpm is not Linux alternative to winzip thats gzip/gunzip, rpm is the
alternative for .msi -files or rather .msi was invented by MS after rpm had
been around for awhile....strange he?
/IL
" (I know some hate rpm, but that is Linux's alterna=ive
to winzip, and does help newbies shy away from the tedium of compiling c
=ode.)"
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From: Dave Martel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 11:24:06 -0500
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000 12:26:26 -0400, sinister-catsup
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>not to be a negative nelly (Sorry, I hate flanders to) but,
>coulda-shoulda-woulda: You can argue the same thing towards Mac, if jobs had
>aggressively pushed the mac when he had his window of oppurtunity, we'd all be
>using macs now, but Mac never did get pushed, OS/2, same thing, technically the
>superior product of it's time, but IBM is a hardware company and lacked the
>ability to push it's poduct. Amiga is before my time.
Yep, Apple's another sad case. They were in the market before IBM/MS
and with a much better OS. Apple could very easily have been where MS
is right now if they'd just learned to stay focused on the
here-and-now instead of trying to be so far-future visionary and
artsy-fartsy.
They're still doing it, too. The art crowd may like the new
translucent Mac look, but to me it makes an otherwise nice machine
look like a cheap toy. They're probably also losing a lot of business
sales because the appearance clashes with standard corporate office
decor.
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From: "James D. McIninch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Have An Hour?(Maybe Two) Alright Proceed.......
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 17:29:49 GMT
QNA wrote:
>
> Linux Mandrake 7.0 Complete although obviously exactly what im looking for
> in an OS has been a road of hassle for me, why? Well Here are some
> reasons.....
> 1) Not Compatible with my sound card
> 2) Cant Detect My Video Card making me have to use a 'Generic VGA
> Compatible which needless to say isnt all too attractive
> 3) My Modem wont work with it, either is locked, or now detected, or so on
> and so on
> 4) Other reasons...
>
> Anyway maybe my computer being fairly new is the reason for all of this
> but either way it is discouraging me so i am asking a few questions to
> save myself from giving up entirely before i just give up on linux
> Mandrake completely until i get a new computer or buy a new graphics card.
> Here are some things you'll wanna know first:
>
> 1)I Have an Intel(R) 810 Graphics Chip Driver (you may know this issue
> concerning these graphics cards)
Yeah, they work fine (other than not being a great graphics
chipset). Check out the i810 driver documentation at
www.xfree86.org.
> 2) I have Linux Mandrake Complete 7.0
>
> 3) My computer is an HP Pavilion with a 15" Monitor 34-50, 50-100
>
> 4) My modem is listed as compatible with linux but not my sound card
Which modem?
Most sound cards work fine. Chance are, however, that you'd
need to install one of the alternative Linux sound drivers.
>
> OK Here is the core of my questions, please everyone who has the time
> answere any of them no matter how many replys i get
>
> QUESTIONS:
>
> 1) How can i get linux to detect my graphics card so i can get what it is
> capable of visually? The problem is when i go into the /etc/X11/XF86Setup
> file to change things the next time i wanna startx it locks up and i can
> no longer get into my desktop, i get an error. this causes me to re-
> install linux again. i am nervous to make any changes to my graphics files
> because of this, but if you know.......what can i do?
Switch to XFree86 4.0 and read the instructions.
> 2) When i get a Modem Locked Message what do i do?
Locate the process that has opened it and kill it. If no process,
remove the lock file for the modem (in /var/lock).
> 3) Is there anything at all i can buy that would help me with these
> problems.........books, software, etc, or anywhere i can go on the web?
Running Linux by O'Reilly and Associates.
>
> Alright thank you please respond i would really like to have my Linux OS
> using my graphics card instead of the 'Generic VGA Compatible' so i can it
> better visually.
>
> --Thanks.
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grega Bremec)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 17:30:49 GMT
...and Dave Martel used the keyboard:
>
>Commodore designed the most wonderful machines despite the limited
>technology of the day but kept throwing it all away with some of the
>worst marketing mistakes I've seen in the history of technology.
Same as with ARM and the Acorn/RiscOS thing. An excellent machine in
all points - performance, software & resource optimization, OS
interface, all flawless. Yet the marketing killed the cat once again...
--
Grega Bremec
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.gbsoft.org/
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From: "Brad Hein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Removing duplicate lines from a text file
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 13:29:08 -0400
I would use the traditional:
cat file | uniq > file.nomorerepeatinglines
or if the order of things in the file was irrelevant then i would use a
cat file|sort|uniq>file.nodoublelines
> I could've sworn grep or cat had a way to do this, but I'm not seeing it
> on their man pages.
>
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From: robert w hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 18:16:54 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, The Ghost
In The Machine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>All in all, a nice little system, doing things which OS/2 had
>problems in < 4 meg of memory at the time (and DOS couldn't do
>at all).
>
>But Commodore dies, and Windows wins out over all. Go fig.
>
>[snip for brevity]
>
But, long before, there was OS9 level 2 on the 6809 - a system not to be
surpassed by Intel until the '386 (and Linux) ...
and coming up to date (well fairly) - what's wrong with keeping the
horrible M$ stuff but running it under win4lin under linux - thus
keeping windows 9x in its right place as an ordinary task in linux
user-mode - see enthusiastic thread on alt.os.linux
--
robert w hall
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fester)
Subject: Re: windows/linux hd
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 17:41:19 GMT
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000 13:31:19 +0100, Karim Saleh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>however, going into windows 'my computer' there is no mention of the second
>hard drive any more (D:)
>now if i want windows to recognize this hard drive again, what do I do?
Windows recognises it, but can't read it. As another poster mentioned,
runnng fdisk will show you that the drive is indeed there.
It seems that you are unfamiliar with the concept of filesystems. When you
format a drive, it creates a filesystem for it. There are lots of
filesystems, but the three that you're concerned about are:
- FAT16
- FAT32
- ext2
FAT16 is used by all versions of DOS and windows. Linux can read and write
to FAT16, but it's not a good idea to install Linux on a FAT16 partition,
because you loose all of its security features.
FAT32 is a more effecient version of FAT16. It's used by recent versions
of Windows. (95b and better) AFAIK, recent linux versions can read FAT32,
but older versions cannot. (Correct me if I'm wrong, someone) This has the
same problem about losing security. Don't install Linux on this.
ext2 is Linux's filesystem. It has file permissions and modes, thus
granting the abovementioned security. However, Windows cannot read ext2 AT
ALL.
Your problem is that your D: drive (the linux one) is formatted with ext2.
It's perfect for Linux, but to windows, your drive is speaking a foreign
language. Therefore, it sees it, but it does not display it.
The solution to move files back and forth between Linux and Windows (which
is what I assume your goal is) is to make Linux read your FAT16/32 Windows
drive, and do all of your copying in Linux.
Someone else needs to fill you in on the specifics of how to do this, as I
have limited knowledge of mounting drives under Linux.
--
-- Fester
We like Roy.
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From: Ermanno Sartori <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.help
Subject: Re: Networking
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 21:32:46 +0200
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You should install samba server on your linux machine,
You'll be able to create a workgroup and winzozz 3.11
will see the directory wich you publish....
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