Linux-Misc Digest #752, Volume #23 Sun, 5 Mar 00 12:13:04 EST
Contents:
(Cable modem) networking problem (Peter Lee)
X terminal ("Nera")
Re: multiple users using X on same computer at same time? (Tom Stiller)
LILO und Win200 ? (Benjamin Henne)
Re: multiple users using X on same computer at same time? ("Steve Cowles")
Re: (Cable modem) networking problem (Jim Kipp)
Re: Microsoft reinvents the wheel!!! (Jan Schaumann)
Re: (Cable modem) networking problem (TheSimon)
Re: Salary? (Jan Schaumann)
Re: Do you hate vi? (Michael P. Soulier)
Re: multiple users using X on same computer at same time? (Rick)
kmalloc: Size (xxxxxxx) too large ??? (Miikka Laakko)
Problems with pppd ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: (Cable modem) networking problem (Bob Tennent)
Help: Ksniffer Won't Install ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: X terminal ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
home network - also using dial-up service (Bonn)
Re: multiple users using X on same computer at same time? (Hugo Villeneuve)
any good books for config a network? (Bonn)
sendmail+pppd ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: multiple users using X on same computer at same time? (Tom Stiller)
Re: Salary? (Peter Morris)
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From: Peter Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: (Cable modem) networking problem
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 08:47:18 -0500
Hi,
I am using Adelphia powerlink (cable modem) as my internet provider. I
setup network in redhat 6.1 as dhcp. When I use ifconfig to check my
network, I got the message like:
[root@oh-wreserve3a-211 /mnt]# ifconfig
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:C0:F0:4A:07:D9
inet addr:24.48.168.211 Bcast:24.48.168.255
Mask:255.255.255.0
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:80 errors:11 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:3 errors:178 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:534
collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
Interrupt:9 Base address:0xdc00
lo Link encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3924 Metric:1
RX packets:62 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:62 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
According to some documents I read, if "inet addr:" show an IP address,
then I am in business. However, I still can't connect to internet. When
I lauched ftp, telnet or www, the programs just stuck, like caught in an
infinite do-loop..... Can anyone help me what I missed???
thanks!!
Pete
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From: "Nera" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: X terminal
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 22:24:31 +0800
Dear all,
Where can I find a X teriminal for window?
Thx
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From: Tom Stiller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: multiple users using X on same computer at same time?
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 14:37:47 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>I would like to have 2-3 accounts active on the same computer, running X
>at the same time. I tried cntrl-alr-f2, but when I log in and start X, I
>get an error saying display 0 is using X. I tried startx --:1, and xinit
>--:1, but get the same error. Is it possble to do this.
>
X is a client/server configuration. Client applications execute on the
remote machine and X window servers execute on the local machine. To
accomplish what (I think) you want, the 2 - 3 account users will start X
on their machines first then rlogin to the machine with the shared
application(s).
If you just want windows open for several accounts on the same machine,
start X and open several windows, then 'su' to each of the desired
account in a separate window.
Hope this helps
--
Tom Stiller
PGP fingerprint = 5108 DDB2 9761 EDE5 E7E3 7BDA 71ED 6496 99C0 C7CF
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From: Benjamin Henne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: LILO und Win200 ?
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 15:42:07 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hallo
habe soeben versucht auf Meinem PC (Win2000 und Linux) neu zu
konfiguriere.
Doch wenn ich ich Lilo installieren lasse auf Diskette und er zum
Boot-Eintrag von Win2000 kommt, serviert Lilo als Ausgabe:
Partitionseintrag nciht gefunden.
Kann LiLo Win2000 nicht booten ?!?
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From: "Steve Cowles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: multiple users using X on same computer at same time?
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 14:49:45 GMT
"Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I would like to have 2-3 accounts active on the same computer, running X
> at the same time. I tried cntrl-alr-f2, but when I log in and start X, I
> get an error saying display 0 is using X. I tried startx --:1, and xinit
> --:1, but get the same error. Is it possble to do this.
>
> any and all help appreciated.
> --
>
> Rick
> To reply by email remove NOSPAM from my address.
I have not tried what you are attempting to do, but I would think you would
have to tell Xfree86 to start additional servers on those displays... Take a
look at /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers, specifically... add the :1 definition
(server) to the file. Again, I have not tried this. My system is headless. I
display X sessions to my PC using Xwin32 (XDMCP) on my NT Workstation.
Steve Cowles
# This file should contain an entry to start the server on the
# local display; if you have more than one display (not screen),
# you can add entries to the list (one per line). If you also
# have some X terminals connected which do not support XDMCP,
# you can add them here as well. Each X terminal line should
# look like:
# XTerminalName:0 foreign
#
:0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X
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From: Jim Kipp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: (Cable modem) networking problem
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 10:11:40 -0500
Go into netcfg and setup , everythinng manually (id, DNS,
Gatewat...) mine would not work with DHCP either, but when I
did it manually it worked
Peter Lee wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I am using Adelphia powerlink (cable modem) as my internet provider. I
> setup network in redhat 6.1 as dhcp. When I use ifconfig to check my
> network, I got the message like:
>
> [root@oh-wreserve3a-211 /mnt]# ifconfig
> eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:C0:F0:4A:07:D9
> inet addr:24.48.168.211 Bcast:24.48.168.255
> Mask:255.255.255.0
> UP BROADCAST RUNNING MTU:1500 Metric:1
> RX packets:80 errors:11 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> TX packets:3 errors:178 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:534
> collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
> Interrupt:9 Base address:0xdc00
>
> lo Link encap:Local Loopback
> inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
> UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3924 Metric:1
> RX packets:62 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> TX packets:62 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
>
> According to some documents I read, if "inet addr:" show an IP address,
> then I am in business. However, I still can't connect to internet. When
> I lauched ftp, telnet or www, the programs just stuck, like caught in an
> infinite do-loop..... Can anyone help me what I missed???
>
> thanks!!
> Pete
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From: Jan Schaumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft reinvents the wheel!!!
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 10:15:59 -0500
Steve Lamb wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Hockin) wrote in
> <89sl0a$jl$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >: foo.conf and I copy it to foo.conf.bak - I assume the M$'s linking
> >: system would delete my backup file, right?
>
> >hardly ridiculous. It has the same semantics as a hardlink in UNIX, just
>
> Uhm, yes, it is. Look again.
>
> Who makes a backup by hardlinking?
>
> Would you make a backup by hardlinking? You are aware of why that would
> be a bad thing(tm) and why it would then be a ridiculous thing for M$ to do
> automatically? :P
My point exactly!
-Jan
--
Jan Schaumann
http://jschauma-0.dsl.speakeasy.net/
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From: TheSimon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: (Cable modem) networking problem
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 15:19:16 GMT
First of all, is your network internal or did you set up the DHCP client?
The linux DHCP client does not work properly with @home service. It needs
to be configured manually as static. Next, you need to turn of "DNS is
required for normal operation" in netconf. Also make sure you entered a
default domain as well as your gateway and nameservers.
Email me with any questions.
Peter Lee wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am using Adelphia powerlink (cable modem) as my internet provider. I
> setup network in redhat 6.1 as dhcp. When I use ifconfig to check my
> network, I got the message like:
>
> [root@oh-wreserve3a-211 /mnt]# ifconfig
> eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:C0:F0:4A:07:D9
> inet addr:24.48.168.211 Bcast:24.48.168.255
> Mask:255.255.255.0
> UP BROADCAST RUNNING MTU:1500 Metric:1
> RX packets:80 errors:11 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> TX packets:3 errors:178 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:534
> collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
> Interrupt:9 Base address:0xdc00
>
> lo Link encap:Local Loopback
> inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
> UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3924 Metric:1
> RX packets:62 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> TX packets:62 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
>
> According to some documents I read, if "inet addr:" show an IP address,
> then I am in business. However, I still can't connect to internet. When
> I lauched ftp, telnet or www, the programs just stuck, like caught in an
> infinite do-loop..... Can anyone help me what I missed???
>
> thanks!!
> Pete
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Jan Schaumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Salary?
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 10:20:01 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Sorry if this is OT for these forums, but I really don't know where
> to post a question like this... I find myself in the somewhat
> embarassing position of stepping into a job as a Linux administrator
> and having no idea of how much I should be asking for, in terms of
> salary. Vital stats:
>
> Experience: 4.5 years running production Linux and UnixWare servers for
> my college, while a student. Paid positions, but still student work. A
> about a year working for a pre-launch Internet start-up as an admin, and
> working as a PC Tech for a retail chain. I make about $10/hr at all of
> my jobs.
I don't know one thing about the going salaries for sys-admins, but
$10/hr is a rip-off in *any* job, I think.
go and by the Sunday's edition of the New York Times. Look into the
jobs-section and compare the salaries that are offered to sys-admins to
get an idea.
HTH,
-Jan
--
Jan Schaumann
http://jschauma-0.dsl.speakeasy.net/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael P. Soulier)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.editors,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: Do you hate vi?
Date: 5 Mar 2000 15:51:34 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 04 Mar 2000 05:51:18 GMT, Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:8817fe$9j7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Lots of discussion here.
>> It supports what I said in another thread:
>> if you learned on vi, you love it.
>> else, you hate it.
>
>Just as with all other blanket statements, this one is wrong. And stupid.
I agree. My first editor was DOS' edit. *shudder* My first _real_ editor was
Emacs, but while I still consider it an excellent piece of work, I have many
complaints about it. Then I learned Vi, but I wanted a few more features to
support coding, such as syntax shading. I found Vim, and never went back. It's
now installed on every platform I work on, including windoze.
Mike
--
Michael P. Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
======================================
"To listen to the words of the learned, and to instill into others the
lessons of science, is better than religious exercises."
-- Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)
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From: Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: multiple users using X on same computer at same time?
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 10:55:40 -0500
Tom Stiller wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >I would like to have 2-3 accounts active on the same computer, running X
> >at the same time. I tried cntrl-alr-f2, but when I log in and start X, I
> >get an error saying display 0 is using X. I tried startx --:1, and xinit
> >--:1, but get the same error. Is it possble to do this.
> >
>
> X is a client/server configuration. Client applications execute on the
> remote machine and X window servers execute on the local machine. To
> accomplish what (I think) you want, the 2 - 3 account users will start X
> on their machines first then rlogin to the machine with the shared
> application(s).
>
> If you just want windows open for several accounts on the same machine,
> start X and open several windows, then 'su' to each of the desired
> account in a separate window.
>
> Hope this helps
>
> --
> Tom Stiller
>
> PGP fingerprint = 5108 DDB2 9761 EDE5 E7E3 7BDA 71ED 6496 99C0 C7CF
What I want to do is to do the cntrl-altF2 thing, login another account,
and then startx X, so I go betwen both accounts.
Possible?
--
Rick
To reply by email remove NOSPAM from my address.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Miikka Laakko)
Subject: kmalloc: Size (xxxxxxx) too large ???
Date: 5 Mar 2000 15:51:26 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have a TV-tuner card which uses the zoran drivers. The problem and how
I got there is as follows:
1. Kernel (2.2.14) compiles OK with video4linux and bttv as modules.
2. bigphysarea-2.2.13 -patch works fine. After booting I've got
[root@sulo bin]# cat /proc/bigphysarea
Big physical area, size 4096 kB
free list: used list:
number of blocks: 1 0
size of largest block: 4096 kB 0 kB
total: 4096 kB 0
kB
which is fine.
3. zoran-0.6.3 driver package compiles OK.
4. all the modules needed are probed OK, as you can see:
[root@sulo bin]# lsmod
Module Size Used by
ppp_deflate 40800 0 (autoclean)
bsd_comp 3824 0 (autoclean)
vfat 9372 0 (autoclean)
fat 30656 0 (autoclean) [vfat]
zoran 25000 0 (unused)
videodev 2656 2 [zoran]
tuner 2188 0 (unused)
saa7110 2516 1
i2c 3456 3 [zoran tuner saa7110]
5. The grabber card driver has even an IRQ:
[root@sulo bin]# cat /proc/interrupts
CPU0
0: 168982 XT-PIC timer
1: 1799 XT-PIC keyboard
2: 0 XT-PIC cascade
4: 29112 XT-PIC serial
5: 1 XT-PIC soundblaster
8: 2 XT-PIC rtc
11: 0 XT-PIC zoran
13: 1 XT-PIC fpu
14: 509 XT-PIC ide0
15: 119596 XT-PIC ide1
NMI: 0
So, what's the problem, you might be tempted to ask. Well, when I try to
run e.g. xawtv, I get
[root@sulo bin]# ./xawtv
This is xawtv-3.09, running on Linux/i686 (2.2.14-bigphys)
visual: id=0x22 class=4 (TrueColor), depth=24
x11: 1280x1024, 32 bit/pixel, 5120 byte/scanline, DGA
sh: v4l-conf: command not found
waitpid: No child processes
v4l-conf had some trouble, trying to continue anyway
open /dev/video: No buffer space available
sh: v4l-conf: command not found
waitpid: No child processes
v4l-conf had some trouble, trying to continue anyway
open /dev/video: No buffer space available
no video grabber device available
and tail -f /var/log/messages says something about kmalloc: Size (xxxxxxx)
too large
(Sorry, no actual output available right now, but I trust you get the
idea)
whatta hell am I supposed to do now? I'm so close... but...
thanks in advance
--
Miikka L��kk�
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Problems with pppd
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 15:49:11 GMT
I am unable to connect to the internet thru Linux. Whenever it connects the
ppp daemon "dies out unexpectedly". I tried debugging but that didn't help
much. Pl. help me if u have a sol. to this problem. THANKS Rahul
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Tennent)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: (Cable modem) networking problem
Date: 5 Mar 2000 15:52:54 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 05 Mar 2000 08:47:18 -0500, Peter Lee wrote:
>
>I am using Adelphia powerlink (cable modem) as my internet provider. I
>setup network in redhat 6.1 as dhcp. When I use ifconfig to check my
>network, I got the message like:
>
>[root@oh-wreserve3a-211 /mnt]# ifconfig
>eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:C0:F0:4A:07:D9
> inet addr:**.**.**.** Bcast:24.48.168.255
>
>According to some documents I read, if "inet addr:" show an IP address,
>then I am in business. However, I still can't connect to internet. When
>I lauched ftp, telnet or www, the programs just stuck, like caught in an
>infinite do-loop..... Can anyone help me what I missed???
>
Fire up netcfg (as root) and click on Routing.
You should there enter the Default Gateway (as specified by your
cable company) and device (eth0). Also click on Names and enter
your name servers as well as a hostname and domain.
BTW, it's not a good idea to broadcast your IP address on the net,
though the script kiddies will find you pretty soon anyway. I
suggest installing portsentry and turning off as many inetd services
as possible.
Bob T.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Help: Ksniffer Won't Install
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 10:18:49 -0600
Hi I'm new to Linux. Trying to install Knsiffer but it would't pass the
first step -- configure. When I ran ./configure unde a console, I got a
message like this:
...... (other checkings passed)
checking for kde headers installed... yes
checking for kde libraries installed... configure: error: your system
fails at l
inking a small KDE application!
Check, if your compiler is installed correctly and if you have used
the
same compiler to compile Qt and kdelibs as you did use now
The system is a Pentium II w/128M ram, Red Hat Linux 6.1 download
(standard) version, everything installed including GNOME, KDE,
workstaion and all the servers.
Please help!!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: X terminal
Date: 5 Mar 2000 16:19:39 GMT
Nera wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> Where can I find a X teriminal for window?
You may be able to do what you want to with telnet. It's
a cheaper solution than xterminal when working with Win9x.
Anzio has a product. The telnet which comes with Win9x is
as lame as Win9x itself...
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From: Bonn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.protocols.tcp-ip
Subject: home network - also using dial-up service
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 00:08:44 +0800
I am a MS windows user, and I just bought another computer.
As I want to know more about linux and network, I install Redhat 6.0 to
my old computer.
Installing linux is very easy, but connecting the two computers is a big
problem for me.
I have bought 2 network cards, but I don't know how to setup the two
computers. I don't know what has to be config.
My question is: Can I use my window computer to use dial-up service to
surf the internet, just like how I used to do, and access the linux
server through local network?
please also mail to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thank you very much.
regards
Bonn
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From: Hugo Villeneuve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: multiple users using X on same computer at same time?
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 11:23:57 -0500
Rick wrote:
>
> I would like to have 2-3 accounts active on the same computer, running X
> at the same time. I tried cntrl-alr-f2, but when I log in and start X, I
> get an error saying display 0 is using X. I tried startx --:1, and xinit
> --:1, but get the same error. Is it possble to do this.
>
> any and all help appreciated.
> --
>
> Rick
> To reply by email remove NOSPAM from my address.
There a space between -- and :1.
startx -- :1
The -- is a delimeter between options that startx send to the session
script and options send to the X server if I remember well.
Now ctrl-alt-F7 and ctrl-alt-F8 should be 2 different X server.
Hugo
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From: Bonn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.protocols.tcp-ip,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: any good books for config a network?
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 00:21:03 +0800
I want to setup a linux server and connect to a few PC (using MS
windows). Is there any good book that help?
I am looking for something 'real'. Some linux books just talk about how
to config TCP/IP, and is very brief.
I am new to network. Anyone want to share the experience?
Thank you very much.
Pleas also send to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
regards
Bonn
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: sendmail+pppd
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 16:31:10 GMT
hello,i have this problem:
i installed my linux box as intranet server with ppp access to internet
& i want it to deliver local mail immediately & outgoing mail put into
queue & send it every hour.i installed pppd to dial on demand. But my
system 1. if i set linux to use mail server(gateway) or DNS it dials
out even if the mail is just local. 2.If I dont set these, i do not
have access to internet.
Help me with correct setting.Thnx.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Tom Stiller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: multiple users using X on same computer at same time?
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 16:47:30 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>What I want to do is to do the cntrl-altF2 thing, login another account,
>and then startx X, so I go betwen both accounts.
>
I think you're making it too complicated. Login and start X. Open two
or three windows. Select one of the windows ans 'su - xxx' (switch to
user xxx). You now have a window serving each of two accounts, the
original and xxx. If desired, select the third window and 'su - yyy' to
switch to user yyy. You now have three windows servicing each of three
accounts, the original, xxx, and yyy. Continue as desired.
--
Tom Stiller
PGP fingerprint = 5108 DDB2 9761 EDE5 E7E3 7BDA 71ED 6496 99C0 C7CF
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Morris)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Salary?
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 16:44:20 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I suggest 2 things:
1. Charge what you think you're worth in that job. US$20/hr? US$40/hr?
What? If you feel quite happy getting US$15/hr and then find that
you're being undervalued in this position as everyone is earning more
than you, I expect you'd be a little miffed. Am I right? And yet you
were quite happy to accept the US$15/hr in the first place. People are
so greedy.
2. Don't they tell you what they're prepared to give you and then you
negotiate from there?
Having said that I'd guess that as you've left school and it's an
admin job I'd go for about GB�20K which would be about US$30K which
works out at about ....oh dear, US$10.27/hr. Perhaps I have my sums
wrong.
PAM.
__________ [EMAIL PROTECTED] __________
>Sorry if this is OT for these forums, but I really don't know where
>to post a question like this... I find myself in the somewhat
>embarassing position of stepping into a job as a Linux administrator
>and having no idea of how much I should be asking for, in terms of
>salary. Vital stats:
>
>Experience: 4.5 years running production Linux and UnixWare servers for
>my college, while a student. Paid positions, but still student work. A
>about a year working for a pre-launch Internet start-up as an admin, and
>working as a PC Tech for a retail chain. I make about $10/hr at all of
>my jobs.
>
>The job: Southern California; running ~20 production and development
>servers for a high-profile operation; Linux x86 and Solaris SPARC
>platforms. It's a well-established multinational corporation operating
>well in the black.
>
>I'll be going into this job straight out of school, and if it works out
>(fingers crossed!) I'll likely be staying for a while; what they do is
>what I'm all about, and it looks like a perfect match for me. BUT...
>
>I don't want to short-change myself going in. In my (limited!)
>experience, you stand a much better chance of getting what's fair if you
>demand it at the onset; if you realize a year into the job that you're
>not making the market's wage, it's typically a lot more difficult to get
>a substantial raise, no?
>
>So... Any suggestions as to salary? I would greatly appreciate hearing
>from those who might have some insight into this. Now that Linux has
>finally started to pay off (been using it since SLS was "it" and never
>thought I'd see this level of penetration!) I find I don't know how much
>my Linux abilities should be compensated.
>
>Thanks!
>
>- Robert Nichols
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
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