Linux-Misc Digest #847, Volume #23 Tue, 14 Mar 00 15:13:03 EST
Contents:
What happened to gramofile? (David A. Rogers)
Re: Do you hate vi? vi or vim? Deathmatch! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
mount ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
SHELLS (Dav)
Re: If Linux is free, where can I get it? (Rod Smith)
X Windows and Hummingbird Exceed
mysql ("L_newbies")
Re: Question one -- a friendly editor (Bill Unruh)
Re: what is the ideal video resolution ("David ..")
export display to windows? (Duy Duong)
Central config+linux+netscape? (Hemant Shah)
bash question ("Jerry F. Davis")
Re: Cobol and iBCS (Matheus Cunha Torres)
Re: export display to windows? (Bob Hauck)
Rescue disk failure with SuSe 6.3 (Rick Wessman)
Re: Excessive hard drive paging (Stefan Seyfried)
Re: Motherboard Configuration (Vivek Gupta)
Re: SHELLS (Bastian)
slackware installation (CAK)
Matrox Meteor drivers (Stefano Cagnoni)
Re: lilo failed? (Neil Koozer)
Re: using gcc to compile (Arne Oistein Olsen)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David A. Rogers)
Subject: What happened to gramofile?
Date: 14 Mar 2000 16:10:05 GMT
Gramofile is/was an excellent tool for recording off of vinyl to disk. The
homepage has gone AWOL. Does anyone have the scoop on what's up with the
author?
Good thing I had a backup.
cheers,
dar
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.editors,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: Do you hate vi? vi or vim? Deathmatch!
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 17:06:52 GMT
Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i am not trying to be an ass, but on a boot disk you will want to save
> memory. ed's not hard to use, it just kind of primitive. if you know
Have you actually _tried_ tomsrtbt?
Please use it and then see if you still feel the same way.
It is available at:
http://www.toms.net/rb/
-Tom
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: mount
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 17:11:27 GMT
How can I set my machine up so that any user can sit down in front of
it and log on and get a different personal directory mounted off a
server
it seems that I either have to let them use root to do it themselves or
build a massive fstab to include every user... The has to be a easier
way ! I can't see how to substitute user names in autofs either
Ideas ????
mal
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From: Dav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SHELLS
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 17:32:27 GMT
How do I change my shell from say bash to korn shell...
without having to type ksh
I mean can i do it somewhere to default to this with every login?
Thanks...
Jav
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: If Linux is free, where can I get it?
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 17:41:48 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I know this is a really dumb question, but I have asked everyone, and
> nobody can tell me. Where can I get it? I tried download.com and
> linux.org etc. I find links to FTP, but I get confused in FTP and I don't
> know where to look. The folders are barely labled, and when they are,
> they don't have anything useful in them.
>
> Ok, the second part is if I do decide to break down and buy it, what have
> you heard about Corel's Linux? Better than Redhat?
Check my Linux distributions web page:
http://www.rodsbooks.com/distribs/
It includes my reviews of several Linux distributions, links to FTP and
web sites from which you can download it, and links to retailers that sell
both cut-rate and packaged Linux CDs. Unless you have a fast Internet
connection, I recommend you buy a distribution, since it takes the better
part of a day, if not more, to download an entire distribution by v.90
modem. You can get two or three Linux CDs from a cut-rate outfit for under
$10 if you're in the continental US. (There are similar retailers in other
countries, but I don't happen to have any URLs offhand.)
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Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Author of books on Linux networking & WordPerfect for Linux
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: X Windows and Hummingbird Exceed
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 17:34:10 GMT
I am having difficulties trying to get the XDMCP Boradcast portion of
Exceed to work with Linux. I can get an xterm to pop up but I would like
to get the whole desktop environment. My Exceed works fine with AIX
machines, I assume I am missing something on the Linux box.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
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From: "L_newbies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: mysql
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 12:55:34 -0500
hi,
Can anyone tell me where I can download mysql for linux and related
documentation?
Thanks
Wing
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: Question one -- a friendly editor
Date: 14 Mar 2000 18:02:08 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> jygjyg
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Question 1: Is there a good/friendly editor whick is like edit
>in DOS? I tried VI and XEmacs, but they have absolutely style.
Depends on what you meand by "friendly". Many people consider both of
those friendly, especially as they are about the only ones that work on
a simple command line interface. (I do not know if there is any single
person however who finds both friendly).
However, a few others:
pico ( comes with the pine email facility)
nedit
Or more full featured:
WordPerfect
StarOffice
All the above are free. The last three require X to work.
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: what is the ideal video resolution
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 12:00:58 -0600
No doubt The manufacturer of my monitor set 1280x1024 as the recommended
default. Though it will do several other settings without any problems.
Some of it depends on personal preference
Kevin Straight wrote:
>
> Sounds like you are over simplifying the question. I don't think that a
> concept of an "ideal" resolution is relevant unless you consider several
> other factors: size of the CRT, number of colors, amount of video
> memory, etc. If there was one "ideal" setting for every application,
> then graphics cards would only come with one mode.
>
> Herry wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Years ago I have read somewhere that 1024x748 may not be the ideal
> > resolution to use. The suggested one was around 900x800. It was calculated
> > by a formula I can't remember.
> >
> > Anyone any ideas - please cc email to
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> > Herry
>
> --------------------------
> Kevin Straight
> University of Idaho
> www.uidaho.edu/~stra9456
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From: Duy Duong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: export display to windows?
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 12:36:07 -0600
Is it possible to export my linux display to a pc running windows?
What software(s) do I need? (anything < $100?)
Thanks.
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From: Hemant Shah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
netscape.public.admin,netscape.public.general,netscape.public.mozilla.prefs
Subject: Central config+linux+netscape?
Date: 14 Mar 2000 18:42:29 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Folks,
I downloaded Netscape Communicator 4.7 Professional from netscape site
and installed it on RH6.1 Linux system for use on intranet.
We also intend to use netscape as IMAP4 client to read e-mail.
How and I centrally configure the preferences for users? I have
looked/searched the netscape site and keep finding references to
netscape.cfg, config.jsc files but there is no mention of how to setup
them up.
I would like to override (some of the) users preferences with global
settings.
Where can I find information on on it?
Thanks in advance.
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Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 12:38:40 -0600
From: "Jerry F. Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: bash question
i hope this is the correct newsgroup, here goes...
i am learning bash, and i want to know how to do something.
i have a series of commands piped together that ultimately on stdout
gives me 4 lines of output.
what i want to be able to do is read the stdin for those lines and act
on them.
how do i open and read and close a stdin file in bash?
for that matter how do i open and read any file in bash?
thanks in advance for your help.
jerry
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From: Matheus Cunha Torres <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Cobol and iBCS
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 15:58:12 -0300
Lew Pitcher wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:06:58 -0300, Matheus Cunha Torres
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Hi all,
> >
> >After installing Slackware 7, I noticed that my MicroFocus Cobol v3.2
> >stopped to work properly w/ messages of "Segmentation Fault". It used
> >to work fine in Slackware 4.
> >
> >Does anyone have an idea of what changed ?
>
> The kernel release changed... Slack4 was 2.2.6 (according to your
> iBCS) and Slack7 is 2.2.13.
>
> >I tried to use the iBCS.o from Slackware 4, but when I insmod it, it
> >says that the module was compiled to kernel 2.2.6 (i am using 2.2.13).
>
> So...
>
> 0) If you haven't already done so, install the iBCS source from the
> Slackware 7 CDROMs
> 1) log on as root
> 2) cd to the ibcs source tree directory (i.e. cd /usr/src/ibcs)
> 3) make clean
> 4) make
> 5) make install
>
> That's it
>
> Lew Pitcher
> System Consultant
> Toronto Dominion Financial Group
>
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
> (Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)
I tried to compile iBCS from both 4.0 and 7.0 under kernel 2.2.13, and
the problem is still happening... Note that I just suppose the problem is
with iBCS. Any other ideas are welcome...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: export display to windows?
Date: 14 Mar 2000 19:04:02 GMT
Reply-To: bobh{at}slc{dot}codem{dot}com
On Tue, 14 Mar 2000 12:36:07 -0600, Duy Duong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Is it possible to export my linux display to a pc running windows?
Yes.
>What software(s) do I need? (anything < $100?)
An X server. Some names are XWin32, Hummingbird, XCeed, PC-XWare.
Another alternative that might work for you is VNC. It is free but you
can only export a complete display, not individual windows like with X.
Check at <http://www.uk.research.att.com/software.html>.
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From: Rick Wessman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Rescue disk failure with SuSe 6.3
Date: 14 Mar 2000 14:17:21 -0500
I accidentally removed a couple of libraries (crack among them) so I can't
login because the password cannot be validated.
I followed SuSe's instructions (or at I thought that I had) to make a rescue
disk off the CD ROM. However, when I try to boot off it, the system sees the
disk and then seems to stop dead. The screen is blank with just a blinking
cursor.
Has anyone ever seen this? If so, does anyone know of a fix or some way that I
can login so I can fix this mess?
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From: Stefan Seyfried <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Excessive hard drive paging
Date: 14 Mar 2000 10:48:18 +0100
Doug Bible <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Seagate drive (model ST39102LW). About every 5-10 seconds I heard the
> drive accessing. To see if I have some process running that is trying
> to access the drive I went through and shutdown/killed every process
> viewable using 'ps'. Having nothing left but those processes necessary
> for the system to even run, the drive access persisted. I get the
> feeling that it is something on the kernel level that is causing this to
it is the update daemon (/sbin/update, older kernels:
bdflushd/updated, newer kernels: kflushd/kupdate, normalli PID 2 and 3
> occur. I even recompiled to a newer kernel with no avail.
>
> My main question is this: Is there an application that would allow me
> to monitor the processes (even at the kernel level) that are accessing
> the hard drive? Any assistance would be appreciated, for this is
> driving me nuts having to sit and listen to this machine. If there is
> no help for me, my last course of action would be to get extra long
> keyboard/mouse/video cables and put the thing in the closet :)
AFAIK it is also a drive/controller issue, some drives/controllers
don't spin down because of this behaviour, even if the update daemon
has nothing to do, they still access the disk and keep running, others
do not access the disk when there's nothing to do and spin down / keep
quiet.
You can change the flush / sync timings of updated, "man 8 update"
HTH, Stefan
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From: Vivek Gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Motherboard Configuration
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 11:15:31 -0800
Hi mregan,
Lets assume I am going to host 6-7 websites. I will have 5 computer
connected on one side and using
this computer as their proxy server.
With Pentium PIII 500Mhz, will 256 MB RAM be OK ?
Vivek
mregan wrote:
>
> > I want to built my own PC. I am not sure what are the features we
> > should look in motherboard for Server. In market motherboard ranges from
> > $80 to $500 which support Pentium III 500 Mhz/133Mhz.
> >
> > I will be hosting a Website/Nameserver/MailServer.
> >
>
> It really depends on the load on your website. The Nameserver and Mailserver
> are relatively light loads.
>
> We use AMD processors for our servers, but they only handle small intranets.
> I built one Pentium II server using the Aopen AX6B+ MB, and was quite
> pleased with the results. It will also support the Pentium III. The board
> costs about $300.00 Cdn - about $200US
>
> Look for memory slots. We have found that memory is as important and in some
> cases, more important than processor speed.
>
> --
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> FAX 250.428.7863
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bastian)
Subject: Re: SHELLS
Date: 14 Mar 2000 19:25:18 GMT
On Tue, 14 Mar 2000 17:32:27 GMT, Dav wrote:
>How do I change my shell from say bash to korn shell...
>without having to type ksh
>I mean can i do it somewhere to default to this with every login?
>
>Thanks...
>
>Jav
Edit your /etc/passwd file, or add the shell to be started on your login
to your .profile, .bashrc or /etc/profile, /etc/bashrc files.
Bastian
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From: CAK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: slackware installation
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 19:30:02 GMT
i want to ask sth about
slackware 7.0 installation
i booted my comp fromcd but i cannot
tell machine about my cdrom and hardware
there is nothing about
the cdrom and hdd
in the help and how can i
make a swap
area
and partition area
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From: Stefano Cagnoni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: sci.image.processing,comp.multimedia
Subject: Matrox Meteor drivers
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 20:40:55 +0100
Does anybody know if the Linux drivers for Matrox Meteor and MeteorII
frame grabbers support multi-input acquisition as the MIL Lite library
does ?
Thanks for any help.
Stefano Cagnoni
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From: Neil Koozer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: lilo failed?
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 11:37:26 -0800
"Cameron L. Spitzer" wrote:
[...]
> >Has anthing significant about the 1024 cylinder limit of boot loaders
> >using PC BIOS changed in the last few years?
>
> Maybe. See ftp://sd.dynhost.com/pub/linux/lilo/
> or ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/boot/lilo/.
> Is 21.3 the current production Lilo source, or an experimental
> side branch?
It's an experimental side branch by another author. The author of the
patch believes that Werner will include this feature in the next
release.
> The LSM file says "Updated for disks > 1024 cylinders."
> Does that mean it needs the recent Int13 BIOS extension?
Yes, it requires the bios extensions in order to boot above 1023. It
senses the presence of the bios extensions, and uses them if they are
present.
> Or can it make do without, as Microsoft has figured out how to do?
Microsoft can not boot above 1023. The MS boot-related code is
hard-wired at the beginning of the file system, so the end of the
partition can be well above 1023.
> I think that would require kernel changes, but 21.3 says it only
> requires "Linux 0.99pl12 or newer."
Yah. The code in question is only used at boot time and is not part of
the kernel. The kernel doesn't use the bios after it is running.
I've also written a boot loader, called nuni, which does not use the
bios and does not use the concept of cylinders. It can boot from
anywhere up to 137gb from any IDE drive (hda-hdk). It can be found by
searching on freshmeat.net.
Neil.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arne Oistein Olsen)
Subject: Re: using gcc to compile
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 19:33:51 +0000 (GMT)
I have struggled with a similar problem with my gcc compiler for RedHat
6.1
The compiler had problems to find header files, stdio.h and math.h etc..
For a unknown reason( for me) is some of the header files installed
under /usr/i386-glibc20-linux/include.
I created a link for each header file in the /usr/include directory, and
a link for each file in the
/usr/i386/glibc20-linux/lib in /usr/lib. That sorted out my problem with
the gcc compiler.
Does anyone know why the headerfiles are installed under
/glibc20-linux/include instead of /usr/include ?
Arne
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