Linux-Misc Digest #908, Volume #23               Mon, 20 Mar 00 17:13:04 EST

Contents:
  Re: Hummingbird Exceed ("Andreas Meile")
  avoiding the mouse ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Win2000 trashed Lilo, of course. PROGRESS!! ("Joseph")
  Re: Older Dell Pentium 90 won't recognize 10G Hard Rive (Michael Powe)
  Re: learning to compile (Michael Powe)
  Which one to pick ("r")
  Re: displaying server uptime via html (Jan Schaumann)
  Re: avoiding the mouse (Jan Schaumann)
  Re: Corrupt file system ("Andreas Meile")
  Re: Do you hate vi?  vi or vim?  Deathmatch! ("Tim Haynes")
  Re: Do you hate vi? ("Tim Haynes")
  Re: Which one to pick (Andreas Kahari)
  Re: Corel Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Do you hate vi? (Koen Verbeke)
  Re: Power-off on shutdown? (Andrei Zmievski)
  Re: Which one to pick ("r")
  Re: Running script with telnet (Ryan Hatch)
  linux statistics. ("Shibu Basheer")
  Re: Installing&Uninstalling More Than One OS Help (Jonas Datum)
  Re: Do you hate vi? (Matt Chiglinsky)
  Pacbell DSL setup problems ("Matt O'Toole")
  Primary Partition Frustration
  Re: Do you hate vi? (Steve Ketcham)

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From: "Andreas Meile" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hummingbird Exceed
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 21:16:30 +0200


[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb in Nachricht <8b5g3i$f2g$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Anyone know where I can download a copy of Hummingbird Exceed from?


Exceed is unfortunately :-( a *commercial* product. We use it in my company.

If you are looking for a freeware X Server, go to
http://www.microimages.com/freestuf/mix/

You will find there a *freeware* X Server for Macintosh, for Windows, it's
Shareware. But I have the old version of it which was also *freeware* so
let's me know if you want it as e-mail attachement (about 2.6 megabyte .ZIP
file).

Andreas

>
>Thanx!
>
>--
>Steven Coutts
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: avoiding the mouse
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 20:08:29 GMT

Is there a X window manager in which each applications's top
level window is numbered so I can jump between them without
cycling through them all or clicking with the mouse?


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From: "Joseph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Win2000 trashed Lilo, of course. PROGRESS!!
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:20:02 -0500

If your win2k was any bit like mine, then the ext 2 file system's been given
the "Microsoft" make over, disabling it.
You won't be able to mount it.

I had to re-install the penguin ( stupidly  ).
Fortunately, i sent my important stuff to another linux computer and copied
them back after the install.



John Hasler wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Brad writes:
>> I have not given up. I would really like it however if someone could save
>> me from the misery of this situation..
>
>Sounds like you are booting the rescue disk.  It assumes that your Linux
>installation is hosed and needs repair and so sets you up with a ramdisk as
>a base of operations for your repair efforts.  If I understand you
>correctly there is nothing wrong with your installation: you just want to
>reinstall lilo.  Boot from the boot disk.  This should mount the partitions
>on your hard drive and put you in Linux just as if you had booted via lilo.
>Then run lilo.
>--
>John Hasler
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Dancing Horse Hill
>Elmwood, Wisconsin



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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Older Dell Pentium 90 won't recognize 10G Hard Rive
Date: 20 Mar 2000 11:29:16 -0800

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>>>>> "Vlar" == Vlar Schreidlocke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    Vlar> I have an older Dell Pentium 90 computer that I want to make
    Vlar> into a Linux firewall box. I got a 10G hard drive for it,
    Vlar> but the BIOS apparently won't recognize anything above 2G,
    Vlar> so Linux Mandrake can't create the file system because no
    Vlar> acceptable devices are recognized. I can't find any 2G
    Vlar> drives new. How can I make this box recognize the larger
    Vlar> drive so I can install Linux?

You may be able to flash the BIOS to recognize larger drives but I'll
bet you won't get the full 10G.  At the time that system was made, 10
gig drives were not a serious option.  Dell has a list of "largest
drives tested" with each system it sells.  

http://support.dell.com/us/en/kb/document.asp?DN=FA1011995

In case this link doesn't work, the last item is the document number.
You can search for that.

mp

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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: learning to compile
Date: 20 Mar 2000 11:34:51 -0800

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>>>>> "Kevin" == Kevin Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    Kevin> I'm trying to move beyond RPM's and compile my own
    Kevin> programs.  Sometimes I succeed, but usually not.  When I
    Kevin> don't, I usually can't even begin to figure out why.  How
    Kevin> can I learn what I need to know to troubleshoot?  I have no
    Kevin> fear of editing files, reading FAQ's, man pages or anything
    Kevin> else necessary to solve problems.  Any guidance and
    Kevin> direction is greatly appreciated.

Nobody seems to have mentioned that README and INSTALL files almost
always come with source distributions and will tell you the specific
rules for each compilation procedure.  Always always always read the
README first!  Save yourself some grief!

mp

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From: "r" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Which one to pick
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 08:23:37 +1200

Hi there,
I know this will cause some debate - however I am a relatively compentent pc
engineer and I want to have a look see at linux, however just want to get
some info on what variant I should choose. I have thought about corel
however heard that is the worst variant there is.
What thoughts do people have? Just I do not want to down load a huge number
of files only to discover i picked a lemon.
Thanks
Rupe's




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From: Jan Schaumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: displaying server uptime via html
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:28:59 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> does anyone know how to display the server uptime on a web page, other
> than the "server-status" directory?
> is there a simple character command for it that can be placed in any
> html doc. on the server itself?

You could probably write a small shell-script, put it into your cgi-bin
directory and have the html-file have an include dierctive or something
like that.
No guarantee that it willwork, but I don't see why it wuldn't.

-Jan

-- 
Jan Schaumann
http://jschauma-0.dsl.speakeasy.net

Marge!  I'm two-thirty-nine, and I'm feeling fine!

                -- Homer Simpson
                   Brush With Greatness

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From: Jan Schaumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: avoiding the mouse
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:31:11 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Is there a X window manager in which each applications's top
> level window is numbered so I can jump between them without
> cycling through them all or clicking with the mouse?

In kwm when you alt-tab through them, you don't have to circle, but you
are (as in windows) shown which appsare open and then you can go to the
one you like.
Now I don't know in how far the kwm is operatable via keyboard only, but
windowmamger works pretty dammn well - even though just using the
keyboard makes the cute little dock and clip obsolete...

-Jan

-- 
Jan Schaumann
http://jschauma-0.dsl.speakeasy.net

Marge!  I'm two-thirty-nine, and I'm feeling fine!

                -- Homer Simpson
                   Brush With Greatness

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From: "Andreas Meile" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Corrupt file system
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 21:55:59 +0200


Idar Tollefsen schrieb in Nachricht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hello,
>
>When booting, fsck reports errors on the file system, check forced.
>After a while, it fails with signal 11, droping me to a root
>shell with orders to run fsck manually.
>
>When I do this, it still fails with signal 11 just when it's
>about to finish. This is the complete output from the run:


Lot of Signal 11 errors? Perhaps always on *different* situations? Perhaps
you have one of those typical cheap no name mainboards of lousy quality?!?
As the "computer doctor" in my region (the people ring to me when they have
a problem on their Windows box), I got enough bad :-( experiences with those
cheap discounter shop PCs...

I also installed Linux on such boxes. Preferrablely when I want compile a
customized kernel, the "make zImage" stops with such errors. My only
advices: Try changing your BIOS settings, also look at the Internet to get a
BIOS update. Swapping your PCI cards often causes also wonders... :-) Just
before I had a crashing server when I'm online and sending something over my
new ISDN card...

If nothing helps then I recommend to not longer waste your time with to
fiddle on the setups. Better buy a new high quality mainboard, for example
from Asus. On one system, I exchanged such cheap mainboard (was a NoName
board from FIC which caused one kernel crash to the other one) to an Asus
board. Now this system me fully satisfies :-)) I *never* had such a crash
since that. :-)

    Andreas
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
>Parallelizing fsck version 1.17 (26-Oct-1999)
>e2fsck 1.17, 26-Oct-1999 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09
>/dev/hda5 contains a file system with errors, check forced.
>Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks and sizes
>Pass 2: Checking directory structure
>Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity
>Pass 4: Checking reference counts
>Pass 5: Checking group summary information
>Free blocks count wrong for group #5 (4364, counted=4370).
>Fix<y>? yes
>
>Free blocks count wrong for group #10 (1284, counted=1300).
>Fix<y>? yes
>
>Free blocks count wrong for group #18 (4039, counted=4044).
>Fix<y>? yes
>
>Free blocks count wrong for group #25 (6305, counted=6319)
>Fix<y>? yes
>
>Free blocks count wrong for group #80 (2099, counted=2106)
>Fix<y>? yes
>
>Free blocks count wrong for group #256 (3651, counted=3658)
>Fix<y>? yes
>
>Free blocks count wrong for group #263 (0, counted=623)
>Fix<y>? yes
>
>Free blocks count wrong (487275, counted=487953).
>Fix<y>? yes
>
>Free blocks count wrong for group #10 (1849, counted=1850)
>Fix<y>? yes
>
>Free blocks count wrong for group #80 (1946, counted=1711)
>Fix<y>? yes
>
>Free blocks count wrong for group #258 (1852, counted=1853)
>Fix<y>? yes
>
>Free blocks count wrong (513623, counted=513390)
>Fix<y>? yes
>
>/dev/hda5: ***** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED *****
>/dev/hda5: 80530/593920 files (3.3% non-contiguous). 1882831/2370784 blocks
>Warning... fsck.ext2 for device /dev/hda5 exited with signal 11.
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
>
>It almost looks like it has problems writing the result back to disk.
>I have tried to check for bad blocks on the disk, but found none.
>
>If I run the e2fsck program instead of fsck, the output (the important
>parts anyway) is identical, execept that it seg faults instead of
>exiting with a signal 11 when it's about to finish.
>
>What can I do to remedy the situation?
>
>
>
>
>
>- Idar Tollefsen



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From: "Tim Haynes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.editors,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: Do you hate vi?  vi or vim?  Deathmatch!
Date: 20 Mar 2000 20:26:13 +0000
Reply-To: "Tim Haynes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Lamb) writes:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Haynes) wrote in 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >Cut the crap. Whatever a 'Chinese restaurant type' is I dunno, but maybe
> >they're suited to the pick-&-choose approach. Real hackers write their
> >*own* tools.
> 
> >In Emacs Lisp.
> 
>     In Perl. Lisp is a speech impediment, not a language.

Oooh no. In Perl in Emacs...   or on the shell commandline using emacs
keybindings. 

~Tim
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From: "Tim Haynes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.editors,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: Do you hate vi?
Date: 20 Mar 2000 20:24:38 +0000
Reply-To: "Tim Haynes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Heiner Steven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Matt Chiglinsky wrote:
> > I write my C and lisp code in "emacs".
> > I write my Unix config file in "vi".
> > I write my DOS config files in "edit".
> > I write my Windows config files in "notepad".
> > I write my large (heh) Windows config files in "wordpad".
> 
> You didn't say *why* you use "wordpad": because limitations of "notepad"
> force you to do so. Did you have the same problem with "emacs"? "vi"?

Presumably he's just not using a big enough windoze. notepad under NT can
cope with much larger stuff than 32K or whatever it is.

> Sorry, just *had* to tease ;-)

I suppose it depends which one hogs all the RAM up for you first ;8)

~Tim
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From: Andreas Kahari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which one to pick
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 21:00:50 GMT

In article <8b61cb$ml$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"r" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi there,
> I know this will cause some debate - however I am a relatively
compentent pc
> engineer and I want to have a look see at linux, however just want to
get
> some info on what variant I should choose. I have thought about corel
> however heard that is the worst variant there is.
> What thoughts do people have? Just I do not want to down load a huge
number
> of files only to discover i picked a lemon.
> Thanks
> Rupe's
>
>

There's nothing wrong with lemons! ;-)

I use the Debian GNU/Linux distribution of GNU/Linux, and I'm happy with
it.

You should read about the different distributions at
<URL:http://www.linux.com/> and at <URL:http://www.linux.org/>.

Apart from those sites, there is actually a FAQ for this forum at
<URL:http://www.mainmatter.com/> and there is also a distribution HOWTO
at the Linux Documentation Project site at
<URL:http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Distribution-HOWTO.html>.


Good luck!

/A

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Corel Linux
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 22:15:24 +0100

On Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:30:05 GMT, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>i have installed in MS-DOS. when i start the program, it runs up until the 
>login screen. then the screen flashes on and off and i can't login.
>
>are additional system settings needed?

 I think not,I had the very same problem.I installed it
on a celeron 466Mhz system with the Intel 810
Graphic Chipset. I suspect that many distributions
don't have the necessary drivers yet for this chipset ,
because I also tried SuSe 6.3,Mandrake 7.0 and they 
also failed when trying to startup the Xserver.
 
R.M.

rmylle(at)village(dot)uunet(dot)be
http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Sands/3655/index.html
ICQ:15580692 (momentarily not in use)

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From: Koen Verbeke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.editors,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: Do you hate vi?
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 22:16:09 +0100

On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, Paul Black wrote:

> I use vim to clean my toilet.

ROFL!!!

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|  Koen Verbeke           [EMAIL PROTECTED]  |
|      http://home.freegates.be/koen-yalp     |
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From: Andrei Zmievski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Power-off on shutdown?
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 21:06:15 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Chris MacKenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you use RedHat with the default kernel from the CD then APM should
> already be compiled in.
> Note: SMP machines cannot use APM with Linux.

Umm, thanks, but if you read the original message, I said that I
compiled the new kernel. Hence, the power-off on shutdown stopped
working.

-Andrei


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From: "r" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which one to pick
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:35:23 +1200

True - there is nothing wrong with lemons esp that delightful absolut citron
that your country makes i believe

"Andreas Kahari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8b63hn$ufu$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <8b61cb$ml$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "r" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi there,
> > I know this will cause some debate - however I am a relatively
> compentent pc
> > engineer and I want to have a look see at linux, however just want to
> get
> > some info on what variant I should choose. I have thought about corel
> > however heard that is the worst variant there is.
> > What thoughts do people have? Just I do not want to down load a huge
> number
> > of files only to discover i picked a lemon.
> > Thanks
> > Rupe's
> >
> >
>
> There's nothing wrong with lemons! ;-)
>
> I use the Debian GNU/Linux distribution of GNU/Linux, and I'm happy with
> it.
>
> You should read about the different distributions at
> <URL:http://www.linux.com/> and at <URL:http://www.linux.org/>.
>
> Apart from those sites, there is actually a FAQ for this forum at
> <URL:http://www.mainmatter.com/> and there is also a distribution HOWTO
> at the Linux Documentation Project site at
> <URL:http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Distribution-HOWTO.html>.
>
>
> Good luck!
>
> /A
>
> --
> # Andreas K�h�ri
> # Brought to you from Uppsala, Sweden
> # http://hello.to/andkaha
> # Remember, an e-mail is as secure as a postcard
>
>
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From: Ryan Hatch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Running script with telnet
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:19:33 -0600

Yes, use remsh.  Man pages should give you the details.

Matheus Cunha Torres wrote:
> 
> Is it possible to telnet another box and run a script from your machine
> in the foreign host. As an example, suppose I want to telnet a pop
> server
> (telnet foreign.domain.com 110) and automatically delete the messages
> there and log out. It's just an example, I know there are pop reader
> that
> can do that...
> 
> Is ther any option in telnet that allows me executing the comands after
> conecting?

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From: "Shibu Basheer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: linux statistics.
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 21:41:03 GMT

Hello!

I am looking for some web site which can provide some statistics about linux
usage throughout the world, and compared to other operating systems.  Also
about number of linux web servers out there..

I need this for a college report.  I would appreciate any help!  Thanks.
Also, could you Cc your reply to my email address : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?

Thanks,

Shibu



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Subject: Re: Installing&Uninstalling More Than One OS Help
From: Jonas Datum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 13:01:00 -0800

After the win2000/nt part I got confused.... Please Clarify
Uninstalling Win2000 and restoration?!?! I understand little
about the bootsector stuff. Please clarify!?!?!? Especailly
Bootsetors and stuff!?!?  I hope I am not proving to be a
burden.

Thank You..
PS: May I email you in the future for any assitance!!??!?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matt Chiglinsky)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.editors,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: Do you hate vi?
Date: 20 Mar 2000 21:49:19 GMT

On Mon, 20 Mar 2000 20:54:31 +0100,
Heiner Steven  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Matt Chiglinsky wrote:
>> I write my C and lisp code in "emacs".
>> I write my Unix config file in "vi".
>> I write my DOS config files in "edit".
>> I write my Windows config files in "notepad".
>> I write my large (heh) Windows config files in "wordpad".
>
>You didn't say *why* you use "wordpad": because limitations
>of "notepad" force you to do so. Did you have the same
>problem with "emacs"? "vi"?
>
>Sorry, just *had* to tease ;-)

Yeah, I know.  Hey, well they fixed that size limitation in NT
fortunately, but often I use a Windows port of vim.  

Oh hey, what the heck to Mac users use?  It must feel mightly strange
going from a one-button mouse to vi.  heh  ;)   Mac users?


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Reply-To: "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Pacbell DSL setup problems
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 13:30:20 -0800

I'm trying to get my Pacbell DSL (PPPoE) set up with Linux, but I'm having
some problems.  I went through the installation routine at
http://dialup.pacbell.net/dsl/linux.html, which gives seemingly idtiot-proof
instructions for setting up the Enternet 100 PPPoE software.  The trouble is
that when I try to execute start-pppoe, I get a "bash: command not found"
error.  I made the correct files executable with "chmod +x," as per
instructions.  Also, when booting, my machine hangs for a minute while
trying to bring up "eth0", giving a "failed" message before proceeding with
the boot process.  What do I do now?

Matt O.



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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Primary Partition Frustration
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 21:30:12 GMT

Hello,

I am trying to reinstall RH 6.1 in a dual OS mode.  My current 
configuration is as follows according to Disk Druid:

hda1 Win95 Fat32 equates to C:\ in Win 98 (Primary)
hda5 Win95 Fat32 equates to D:\ in Win 98 (Logical)
hda6 Win95 Fat32 equates to E:\ in Win 98 (Logical)

What Disk Druid doesn�t show is my hda2 Extended Partition (Primary).

When I start using Disk Druid to add partitions such as (Swap/Boot/Root 
etc�) it wants to make everything a Primary partition.  I already have two 
primary partitions used hda1 & hda2, leaving 2 primaries left.

Can I create (I don�t think through Disk Druid) two primaries one for 
solely Swap, and the other I am not sure if that should be specified for 
Root or not with several logical partitions underneath.  If I can create 
these partitions, and it will work, how should I go about this?

I have tried in Expert using Fdisk to create the two primaries 
partitions.  But I cannot continue the �Next� button is shaded out.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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From: Steve Ketcham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.editors,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: Do you hate vi?
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 16:48:29 -0500

Matt Chiglinsky wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 20 Mar 2000 20:54:31 +0100,
> Heiner Steven  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Matt Chiglinsky wrote:
> >> I write my C and lisp code in "emacs".
> >> I write my Unix config file in "vi".
> >> I write my DOS config files in "edit".
> >> I write my Windows config files in "notepad".
> >> I write my large (heh) Windows config files in "wordpad".
> >
> >You didn't say *why* you use "wordpad": because limitations
> >of "notepad" force you to do so. Did you have the same
> >problem with "emacs"? "vi"?
> >
> >Sorry, just *had* to tease ;-)
> 
> Yeah, I know.  Hey, well they fixed that size limitation in NT
> fortunately, but often I use a Windows port of vim.
> 
> Oh hey, what the heck to Mac users use?  It must feel mightly strange
> going from a one-button mouse to vi.  heh  ;)   Mac users?

Well, since we don't have large config files, it isn't much of an issue.
;)

I'm probably not a typical Mac user, because I used Unix for 10 years
before I saw a Mac, but I use BBEdit for most of the text work I do on
my G4.  Simpletext (=Notepad) is pretty useless.  I've tried Stevie, but
I wasn't excited about it -- I think most of my problem was that vi has
about the most anti-Mac interface imaginable.

S

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