Linux-Misc Digest #908, Volume #18 Fri, 5 Feb 99 04:13:11 EST
Contents:
Re: Linux-installation (walt)
Re: Newbie ? re: MAN Pages (Luca Filipozzi)
problems with starting X ("PaulErguido")
Re: Windowmaker upgrade blew away my root background (Brad Corsello)
Re: C++ with Emacs (Jim Richardson)
Re: USB PC Cameras and Linux (Ken)
[Q] Spellchecker from within Vi editor (Mohd-Hanafiah Abdullah)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Paul Doherty)
Re: Boot managers (walt)
Turtle Beach PCI Audio ("Michael Tweedie")
Re: Linux-installation (Sean Tompkins)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Jay O'Connor)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Hawaiian Style)
pthreads/linux/setstacksize (Robert Canright)
3Com ImpactIQ ISDN External Modem (Gus Hartmann)
sound setup ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: walt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux-installation
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 00:29:35 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gary
Sean is right, just do it. If you can scrounge a copy of partition
magic, that may be the way to go. I have had very good luck with it.
just tell it you want to shrink the primary partition from the back end,
grab about 800mb of space, and start your install. DON'T format your new
free space with partition magic, it only seems to want to make dos-style
formatted file systems. RedHat comes with a partition manager called
Disk Druid; use that for setting up the swap partition and file system
partition during the Linux install.
Sean Tompkins wrote:
>
> Nah, just go for it!
>
> Repartition and maybe you lose your data, maybe you don't!
> It's like roulette, except the odds are better....
> Plus you get all the fun of reinstalling both OSs if you mess it up:)
>
> Sean
>
> Gary Momarison wrote:
>
> > "Leif K�ldahl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > Hello.
> > > I have a problem.
> > > I wanna install linux on my computer. I have the RedHat-CD's.
> > > So what's the problem ?
> > > On my computer i have Windows98 installed, and i wanna keep it that way. Do
> > > i have to make separat partitions for w98 and linux ? Can i do it some other
> > > way ? I have so much stuff on my computer it would take days to copy all my
> > > files to floppy. Is there some OS-manager i can use?
> > > Can someone give me advice?
> >
> > My advice is to not do things for which you are not reasonably prepared.
> > If you can't back up your harddisk, then you are not reasonably prepared
> > to shrink partitions, mess with the partition table, etc. If you MUST
> > install Linux before buying decent backup, then at least buy another disk
> > for Linux and and boot Linux off a floppy that the Linux installation
> > software will offer to make for you.
> >
> > --
> > Look for Linux info at http://www.dejanews.com/home_ps.shtml and in
> > Gary's Encyclopedia at http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/index.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Luca Filipozzi)
Subject: Re: Newbie ? re: MAN Pages
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 23:01:17 -0800
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
> I feel like a doofus asking such a simple question, but I can't figure
> out how to get out of a MAN page. I'm using RedHat 5.0 on a P200, and
> I'm just starting out. Obviously, the MAN pages would be a big help for
> a FNG, but when I call one up, I can't get out! I get to the end and I'm
> stuck. Help!
>
Press q for quit.
--
Luca Filipozzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: "PaulErguido" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: problems with starting X
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 00:26:08 -0200
Please, Could someone give me a good tutorial about Xwindow (KDE)
instalation , setting and running?
Thanks, from Brazil!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brad Corsello)
Subject: Re: Windowmaker upgrade blew away my root background
Reply-To: bcorsello@usa.#NOSPAM.net
Date: 5 Feb 1999 03:39:47 GMT
On 2 Feb 1999 17:12:38 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Thats because you probably ran the wmaker configure program again. No
>need to run the config again since you already configured windowmaker
>before. This has happened to me before but then I started to read the
>README files that came with the tarball.
Nope, didn't run the config prog again. Good guess, though.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Subject: Re: C++ with Emacs
Date: 5 Feb 1999 02:54:21 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 3 Feb 1999 05:58:57 GMT,
Scallica, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>Yo,
>
>How do I enable color coding in emacs (in X windows) when I am writing C/C++
>code? Thanx.
>
>
under the help/options menu, toggle global font lock. Then make sure you are
in c or c++ mode (automatic if you load a .c or .C suffixed file.)
--
Jim Richardson
Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.
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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 22:28:11 -0800
From: Ken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: USB PC Cameras and Linux
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.periphs.dcameras,comp.dcom.videoconf,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Hue Jass wrote:
>
> I know there is a project to bring USB support to LINUX, but I don't know
> how close to supporting PC cameras that project is (I tried to get to
> http://www.nv.org/linux/USB/, but it was so slow, it timed out).
Try this, instead: http://peloncho.fis.ucm.es/~inaky/USB.html
> Are there any drivers and applications out there now that will work with USB
> cameras such as the ViCAM and Logitech QuickCAM Pro?
The problem is that there's no standard for video over USB. Every vendor
is doing it differently, so you have to get specs from the vendor, and
they're pretty tight-lipped about proprietary designs.
Check out http:/www.usb.org to see which device classes have a firm
standard and which ones are still in flux. You can also surf my
collection of USB links at http://www.well.com/user/shiva/tech.html#usb
to get lots of other USB info.
--
Ken
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.well.com/user/shiva/
http://www.e-scrub.com/cgi-bin/wpoison/wpoison.cgi (Death to Spam!)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mohd-Hanafiah Abdullah)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: [Q] Spellchecker from within Vi editor
Date: 5 Feb 1999 12:02:31 +0800
Hi:
How do I invoke a spellchecker such as ispell from within the Vi editor,
i.e., to check the file being edited. Sorry if this is a FAQ. Thanks.
Napi
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From: Paul Doherty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 22:06:25 -0600
Michael Powe wrote:
> Michael Powe wrote:
> >> Your "statement" fell over sideways. Your original claim was
> >> that computers were invented in the United States. Since that
> >> was demonstrably false, you've now changed your argument to be
> >> that the tools that enabled computers to be built were invented
> >> in the United States.
>
**** Paul> I quote from my own post where I entered this argument to
**** Paul> demonstrate that you are full of it...
**
** Important part - pay attention **
**
> Paul> Where does these attempts to beat up on the "average"
> Paul> American come from? We're the number one miltary and
> Paul> economic superpower on the planet. Most of the technical
> Paul> innovations in computing *came* from the USA (transistor,
> Paul> IC, microprocessor, etc). If we're all so damn stupid then
> Paul> why are we beating all of *you*? Sounds like simple sour
> Paul> grapes to me... change your first name to "Harrison" and
> Paul> then you can put some ear-splitting random interval sounds
> Paul> into my earpiece to bring me down to your level... :-)
The above is the quote from my Jan 22nd post upon entering this debate,
and nowhere in it do I make the claim, as Michael has stated, that the
US invented the computer. He has yet to retract this statement or
apologize for wrongly accusing me of changing my position from this
which I never said to that which I *did* say, namely that many of the
innovations in computers came from the US - transistor, IC, and
microprocessor.
> Paul> If you'll note above the term "invention of computers" is
> Paul> nowhere to be seen. What *is* seen is what I have been (and
> Paul> still am) debating - that the "technical innovations in
> Paul> computing *came* from the USA (transistor, IC,
> Paul> microprocessor, etc)." So now that you've been shown wrong,
> Paul> will you admit it, or try to twist what is easily proven (as
> Paul> I just did) into something else?
>
> It appears you're also confused about the substance of the argument as
> well as the language used. First, you don't know that Americans did
> not initiate the "computer revolution," as you claimed they did -- the
> British did. Second, you don't not know that computers did not start
> when the IC was invented. I rest my case. Now that you've been shown
> wrong, will you admit it, or try to twist what is easily proven (as I
> just did) into something else?
You stated (in the quote at the top of this whole message) that I
changed my stance from my original position of the US having "invented"
computers to that of the US merely making available the technologies
that made modern computers possible and that I was somehow back-tracking
in doing this. I have refuted this and unless you demonstrate evidence
with DejaNews (which I know you can't because I quoted my entering foray
into the argument above) to the contrary you are a dishonorable person.
This is far too easy. You go do some research on
http://www.dejanews.com and show me where I ever claimed that the US
"initiated the computer revolution"... sheesh man, in the very response
to a post I left refuting your lie about what I stated upon entering the
argument, you do the very same thing again by stating that I said this
too! You're unbelievable... Twice now I have refuted your statements
and you have yet to admit that I:
1) Never said the US invented the computer (as you claimed I did)
2) Never said the US "initiated the computer revolution" (as you just
claimed I did)
What I did say, and am still saying is that many of the technical
innovations came from the US like the transistor, the IC and
microprocessors, without which we would not have personal computers...
deny that and you're a fooling yourself.
--
Paul Doherty
Systems Analyst/Programmer/SysAdmin
http://www.nationwide.net/~pdoherty
Home of PC DiskMaster
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From: walt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Boot managers
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 01:04:20 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Theo
I don't know if it will work for you, but I have win95 and linux on the
same hard disk, LILO allows me to choose which OS I want to boot at
startup. When I see LILO prompt, I hit TAB and all bootable OSs are
there. hope this helps
Theo van der Merwe wrote:
>
> How do I boot of a specific partion on a specific drive? My ROM bios does
> not have the option to boot of either SCSI or IDE yet. What I am looking for
> is a simple boot manager that can redirect and boot of any other hard drive
> (more specifically any partition on a hard drive and any operation system -
> DOS,Win95/8, WinNT, Linux...). What software is currently available to do
> this?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> Best regards,
> Theo ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: "Michael Tweedie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Turtle Beach PCI Audio
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 23:12:14 -0500
Does anyone know if there are sound drivers for RHL 5.2 for a Turtle Beach
Montego PCI Audio card? It is the standard audio card in most DELL Deskyops
right now!
Thanks again . . .
Michael Tweedie
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Sean Tompkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux-installation
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 21:45:00 -0600
Nah, just go for it!
Repartition and maybe you lose your data, maybe you don't!
It's like roulette, except the odds are better....
Plus you get all the fun of reinstalling both OSs if you mess it up:)
Sean
Gary Momarison wrote:
> "Leif K�ldahl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Hello.
> > I have a problem.
> > I wanna install linux on my computer. I have the RedHat-CD's.
> > So what's the problem ?
> > On my computer i have Windows98 installed, and i wanna keep it that way. Do
> > i have to make separat partitions for w98 and linux ? Can i do it some other
> > way ? I have so much stuff on my computer it would take days to copy all my
> > files to floppy. Is there some OS-manager i can use?
> > Can someone give me advice?
>
> My advice is to not do things for which you are not reasonably prepared.
> If you can't back up your harddisk, then you are not reasonably prepared
> to shrink partitions, mess with the partition table, etc. If you MUST
> install Linux before buying decent backup, then at least buy another disk
> for Linux and and boot Linux off a floppy that the Linux installation
> software will offer to make for you.
>
> --
> Look for Linux info at http://www.dejanews.com/home_ps.shtml and in
> Gary's Encyclopedia at http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/index.html
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From: Jay O'Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 17:48:46 -0600
Arthur wrote:
>
> Jay O'Connor wrote:
> > Arthur wrote:
> > > Keith G. Murphy wrote:
> > > > Arthur wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Does anybody know who built the first analog computer?
> > > > >
> > > > I'm tempted to say, might be the British again, with that Stonehenge
> > > > astronomical computer thingie. :-)
> > >
> > > I meant electronic analog computers, not light based
> > > computing with a GUI. Did it run Linux?
> >
> > I suppose the uptime on that thing puts everything else to shame....
>
> But I wouldn't want to be standing nearby if it crashes.
> Sort of the "brown rock of death", I guess.
But I'd hazard a guess that is probably doesn't have a Y2K problem....
Even though the original vendor is out of business (and dead)
Getting upgrades is a problem but it's open source and seems stable
anyways so why bother...
> NT = "Neolithic Technology"?
===================================
Jay O'Connor
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.roadrunner.com/~joconnor
http://www.ezboard.com
"God himself plays the bass strings first when He tunes the soul"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hawaiian Style)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: 5 Feb 1999 04:03:50 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake upon the
masses..
>
>Michael Powe wrote:
>>
>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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>>
>> >>>>> "Arthur" == Arthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> Arthur> We Americans may be stupid, but you Brits would be singing
>> Arthur> "God Save the Queen" auf Deutsch without us. :)
>>
>> Yeah, because we were "neutral" until Dec 7, 1941 and so sat on our
>> hands and let Hitler do what he would with the rest of Europe. Nor
>> should we forget the thousands of German Jews that died in the camps
>> because "neutral" America refused them asylum.
>
>Let's not even go there... there are many closer countries in which they
>could have asked for asylum. Since when did we become an international
>baby-sitter, to be blamed the first time we don't rush to aid another
>nation with a problem? It's a no-win situation. We help - we get
>called 'meddlesome' or 'militaristic'; we don't help - we're called
>'pacifists', or worse... and then even when we do help out we get no
>credit for having done so and are reviled by other nations (likely based
>on jealousy). I'm not naming names but it does appear to be a catch-22
>situation doesn't it?
>
>--
>
>Paul Doherty
>Systems Analyst/Programmer
>http://www.dfw.net/~pdoherty
>Home of PC DiskMaster
I actually agree with you Paul, something I don't do very often ;-)
by the way, I tried your diskmaster... it's a pretty nifty program...
why not put some of that talent towards LINUX ???
--
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http:home.earthlink.net/~hawaiistyle
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Canright)
Crossposted-To: comp.programming.threads
Subject: pthreads/linux/setstacksize
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 06:05:07 GMT
I'm porting code from SunOs to Linux. The pthread.h from Sun has
pthread_attr_setstacksize, but the pthread.h from linux (via X. Leroy)
doesn't have it.
I'm new to pthreads. What gives? I thought Posix was Posix. How can
one pthread.h have not have a standard pthread function
(setstacksize)? were there different drafts of the pthreads standard
and the linux version came from an earlier draft?
Is there an undated pthread.h for linux that has this setstacksize
function? Is it in someother file?
Thanks,
Robert
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From: Gus Hartmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 3Com ImpactIQ ISDN External Modem
Date: 5 Feb 1999 07:34:15 GMT
Recently, I obtained a 3Com ImpactIQ External ISDN modem to
replace an aging Motorola Bitsurfr. Despite the lack of configuration
software for Linux, configuring it with my SPIDs was fairly simple.
The problem is being unable to start a PPP connection to either
my personal ISP ISDN pool or my employer's ISDN pool. The connection
comes up, but it looks like the PAP negotiation doesn't happen. This is
identical to a problem I had with the Bitsurfr when it was configured to
not use PAP. However, Motorola had an AT command to enable PAP, while
3Com provides a fairly minimal set of AT commands.
Has anyone had any success with this modem under Linux with PAP?
Thanks in advance.
--
Gus
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: sound setup
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 07:30:11 GMT
when i try to setup sound with sndconfig within x window, a message appears
telling that dumped configuration files.
I am new to Linux. Please help.
Thanks in advance.
Suman
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