Linux-Misc Digest #908, Volume #26               Wed, 24 Jan 01 15:13:03 EST

Contents:
  Re: Linux compatible of Quicken ? (Dwight Tovey)
  Re: Suche programm, dass prozesse ueberwacht unt gegebenfalls neustartet ("Chris 
Coyle")
  Re: Mutiple Boot (Robert Wiegand)
  Re: Question about tarballs ("Chris Coyle")
  Re: Booting with no console (Harry)
  Re: setting the time on HW ("Chris Coyle")
  Re: Quad Xeon Box ("Steve Wolfe")
  Re: How to change time format in KDE 2? (Joseph Meier)
  Re: Somebody create a How-To on upgrading to Kernel 2.4, please ! ("Chris Coyle")
  Re: Recommended AVI/MPEG videoplayer? (LFessen106)
  Re: setting the time on HW (Paul Kimoto)
  Re: setting the time on HW (Lew Pitcher)
  Need a Browser (Jon Rook)
  conception of a VPN plate_forme (lallouche)
  Re: locally can telnet, from remotely, can only ping...RH 6.2 (Mike E.)
  Re: HP Pavilion n5135 X Windows ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  test ("Robert Hardy")
  cable setup help (NoClue)

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From: Dwight Tovey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux compatible of Quicken ?
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:46:26 -0700

On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Arctic Storm wrote:

> Linux compatible of Quicken ?
> I've been a Quicken user for many years, and I have a large file with 
> personal accounts.
> Is there an equalent of Quicken in Linux?  Something that's capable of 
> reading the Quicken files.

Others have mentioned GnuCash and MoneyDance.  These both have their
limitations (among other things, support for online banking?  It's been
awhile since I last looked at them).  For the time being (until Intuit
supports Linux directly), I'm still using Quicken, but running it unde
VMware on my laptop or native on the home system for my wife to use.  The
data file is on a Samba share on my central RH6.2 system (486/66).  This
way I can still use my regular Linux apps (email, web browser, ...) while
I'm working on my Quicken stuff.  

Just another possibility to think about.
        /dwight

-- 
Dwight N. Tovey
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Indecision is the key to flexibility.



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From: "Chris Coyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Suche programm, dass prozesse ueberwacht unt gegebenfalls neustartet
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 13:18:30 -0500

Entschuldigen Sie mich - Ich kann nicht Deutschen lesen (Ich verwende Babelfish)
Ich denke, da� was ben�tigen Sie, ist "top".

"Bernhard Strathewerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hallo!
>
> Ich suche ein Programm, dass Prozesse ueberwacht unt gegebenfalls
> neustartet.
> Ueber Tips waehre ich sehr dankbar!
>
> Cu
> Bernhard Strathewerd



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From: Robert Wiegand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mutiple Boot
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:00:28 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Chang wrote:

> Hi guys, can I just find out whether u can have a mutiple boot on a single
> hdd?
> i hope to make my pc bootable from linux, win98 and winnt..is it possible?

Yes this can be done.

-- 
Regards,
Bob Wiegand   [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: "Chris Coyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Question about tarballs
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 13:22:48 -0500


"elmig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott) wrote in
> <3a6e92fe$0$30005$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> >I've got a question about tarballs. basically how do you go about
> >creating one and extracting one. I'm new so be gentle please. :-) Well,
> >new to Linux at least, not to computers.
> >
> >Thanks!
> >Scott
> >
>
> That's easy, type:
>
> man tar
>
> +--------------------------------+
> |elmig                           |
> |http://www.alunos.ipb.pt/~ee3931|
> |Luis.Figueiredo AT pt.bosch.com |
> +--------------------------------+

Note also that tar files are typically compressed, so type:

man gzip





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From: Harry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Booting with no console
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 18:24:36 +0000

On Tue, 23 Jan 2001 23:47:01 +0100, "Peter T. Breuer"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>In comp.os.linux.misc Harry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Tue, 23 Jan 2001 07:27:02 +0100, "Peter T. Breuer"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>In comp.os.linux.misc Harry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> Anyway - I can set the hardware up not to stall in the absence of a
>>>> keyboard and mouse, but what file edits must I make to stop the
>>>> operating system from complaining that they're not there on boot?
>>>
>>>None. The operating system doesn't care.
>
>> Seems odd to say the OS doesn't care though, when it's throwing out
>> what can only be described as error messages....
>
>What? There should be none. Show some, please! You must be
>misinterpreting what you are seeing.
>
>Peter

My own error message goes:

Keyboard: Too many NACKs -- noisy kbd cable?
Keyboard: Too many NACKs -- noisy kbd cable?

Just before:

Floppy drive: fd0 is 1.44M

and just after:

PCI_IDE: Disabled in BIOS


I can make this latter go away with a kernel compile, but how about
the kbd message? Will one of the options under "Character devices" do
it as we speculated earlier?

Harry

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From: "Chris Coyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: setting the time on HW
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 13:30:47 -0500


"Louis Guillaume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hello,
>
> I am running red hat linux 6.1, kernel 2.2.12-20smp on a dual pentium pro
> machine.
>
> The time can be correctly set using "date" or "ntpdate" but everytime I
> reboot the time goes off. Running ntpd is an option but I would rather not
> have that turned on as I am trying to limit the number of services running
> on this machine. Also, attacking the source of the problem is always better!
>
> I imagine there is some way to set the time on the hardware from within
> linux, does anyone know how?
>
> Louis Guillaume
>

Its unclear to me what you mean by "the time goes off".  Does it:
(a) revert to some fixed difference from current time (eg +/- 3hr), or
(b) reset to Jan 1 1970 (or some other specific date/time).
In either case I think you can fix this by going into the BIOS setup
during boot.  In case (a) you should need to do this only once.
In case (b), unfortunately you may have to do this at every boot -
unless you can fix your hardware so it will keep the time when its off.




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From: "Steve Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Quad Xeon Box
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 11:30:25 -0700

> We (my research group) are looking to invest in a small scale, parallel
> architecture in order to run a parallel C compiler
> which supports OpenMP such as the portland group compiler.  We will be
> running Linux on this box as we are UNIX based and
> have the greatest experience in Linux and Solaris.  We are not over
> concerned with getting the best performance as this system will be used
> for code experimentation.  The task of spec'ing the machine has fallen
> to me.  I have checked out
> what the bigger players have to offer and there seems to be quite a few
> offering Quad Xeon II or III units.  If I understand
> correct a 2.2.xx Linux kernel with SMP support should have no problems
> running reasonably efficiently on such as box (?)

   If you're not worried about top performance, then unless having four
CPU's is a design necessity, forget the Xeons.  But, if you want to have
four processors, they're the only way to go, and the 2.2 and 2.4 kernels do
work well on them, but 2.4 is reputed to have better SMP capabilities.  The
difference is going to be how you use locks, which is the crucial part of
any multiprocessing program. ; )

   We use a SuperMicro 8050 server for database work, and it's positively a
dream.  Going to Compaq and Dell, they wanted $45,000 or so for the
configuration we wanted, we build the thing for about $12,000.   That got us
the (incredible) chassis and motherboard, 4 700 MHz CPU's with a meg of
cache each, a half a gig of RAM, gigabit networking, and a nice, fast RAID
array.  The 8050 is a very nice setup.  The one downside is that it won't do
a 133 MHz FSB, but I think their newer boards might have overcome that.

> What I would like are any `pearls of wisdom' from people who have done
> this kind of thing before.  In particular;
>   What are the problems we are likely to encounter?

  The biggest problem will likely come from your coders, especially if this
is for a test bed. ; )

>   Are there any hardware configurations which people have found
>     stable/unstable?

  Some of the newer quad Xeon boards don't work well with older Xeons, like
the 400 MHz PII Xeons.  Just ask the manufacturer up front which CPU's it
will support.

>   What benefits would we get from a Xeon III system over a II or could
> we simply project expected performance improvments based on a cheaper II
> system?

    The benefits are a larger cache per CPU, and more CPU's.  Whether the
larger cache will matter or not depends on your applications, and whether
more CPU's are important depends on the balance for your need for speed and
your pocketbook.

>    Is a Xeon quad unit a sensible choice for a testbed of our software -
> numerically intensive medical image analsis?

   It certainly sounds like it. : )

steve




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From: Joseph Meier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to change time format in KDE 2?
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 10:31:12 -0800

Arctic Storm wrote:

> >>> I'm running KDE 2.0.1, and have the digital clock in the lower,
> >>> right-hand corner.
> >>> The time is displayed in 24-hour format.
> >>> For example, 2:30 PM is displayed as 14:30.
> >>> How do you change the time format to AM/PM format?
> >>> Is there a way to display the day of the week?
> >>
> >> Nevermind,...  I figured it out.
> >
> > Well, I still havn't where in the setup did you find it?
>
> I figured out how to display the day of the week; e.g., Mon, Tue, Wed,
> etc.  I still have not figured out how to display the time in AM/PM
> format, which is absurdly bizarre.  The default should be AM/PM format,
> and the 24-hr format should be an option.  Not only is the default the
> 24-hr format, the change to AM/PM format is no where to be found.  Could
> KDE have screwed up *this* badly?!  What does "user-friendly" mean to
> you, KDE developers?,...
> -

1.    Right click on the clock and select Date & Time Format
2.    On the locale tab, select country as US or any other country that
uses 12h clock
3.    Select OK, then log out then back in and your clock should be 12 hr
(am/pm)


Why should the clock default be am/pm?
24hr works fine for me.  No ambiguity when someone asks the time........
:-)


Joe



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From: "Chris Coyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Somebody create a How-To on upgrading to Kernel 2.4, please !
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 13:42:39 -0500


"Arctic Storm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I've searched far and wide, but no avail.
> No one has created a web page with detailed, step-by-step instructions
> on upgrading the kernel to 2.4.  There are a few tips here and there on
> upgrading the kernel in general, but nothing specific for 2.4.  I'm
> talking about the proverbial "Idiot's Guide to Linux Kernel 2.4
> Upgrade."  If you have a decent background in Linux and computer
> programming, then it's easy for you, but what about for the rest of us?
>   Wait for a distribution to feed us the Kernel?!  I would like to see
> the prevalence of Linux extend into the mass public; non-computer
> professionals.  I'm sure the Linux community would much appreciate your
> efforts if you donated time to create a web page with
> easy-to-understand, detailed, step-by-step, guide in upgrading to Kernel
> 2.4.
> -
>

The following article contains a brief outline of the process:

http://www.thedukeofurl.org/reviews/misc/kernel2224/



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (LFessen106)
Date: 24 Jan 2001 18:53:29 GMT
Subject: Re: Recommended AVI/MPEG videoplayer?

>
>What works for you?
>
>-

MTVP


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: setting the time on HW
Date: 24 Jan 2001 13:59:55 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Louis Guillaume wrote:
> The time can be correctly set using "date" or "ntpdate" but everytime I
> reboot the time goes off. Running ntpd is an option but I would rather not
> have that turned on as I am trying to limit the number of services running
> on this machine. Also, attacking the source of the problem is always better!
>
> I imagine there is some way to set the time on the hardware from within
> linux, does anyone know how?

Use the hwclock(8) program.  Read its man page first.

-- 
Paul Kimoto
This message was originally posted on Usenet in plain text.  Any images, 
hyperlinks, or the like shown here have been added without my consent,
and may be a violation of international copyright law.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Subject: Re: setting the time on HW
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 19:17:04 GMT

On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:47:25 -0500, Louis Guillaume
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hello, 
>
>I am running red hat linux 6.1, kernel 2.2.12-20smp on a dual pentium pro
>machine.
>
>The time can be correctly set using "date" or "ntpdate" but everytime I
>reboot the time goes off. Running ntpd is an option but I would rather not
>have that turned on as I am trying to limit the number of services running
>on this machine. Also, attacking the source of the problem is always better!
>
>I imagine there is some way to set the time on the hardware from within
>linux, does anyone know how?

There are a couple of tools (that I know of): hwclock, and clock (from
the util-linux package). Either program can be used to set your CMOS
clock from your system clock. Both come with Slackware (in the /sbin
directory); perhaps RH also includes them.




Lew Pitcher
Information Technology Consultant
Toronto Dominion Bank Financial Group

([EMAIL PROTECTED])


(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)

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From: Jon Rook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Need a Browser
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:22:23 -0500

I installed Caldera OpenLinux eDesktop2.4 recently and Netscape was
included in the distribution.  I've noticed that there are many web
sites out there that cause this version of Netscape to lock-up.
I've tried using the KDE File Manager (KFM) and that seems more robust,
but I haven't been able to figure out how download a file from the web
with this 'browser'.
Today I downloaded a binary of the Mosaic browser.  But in reading the
documentation it seems that development on that browser was halted back
in 1997 and I wonder if this browser will not have problems with some
sites also.
Can anyone recommend a good browser.

Thanks,
Jon



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From: lallouche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: conception of a VPN plate_forme
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 19:30:03 -0000

I'm a student working on a project ( end of studies ) which consiste on 
conception of a VPN with Ipsec
thanks for your help


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From: Mike E. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: locally can telnet, from remotely, can only ping...RH 6.2
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 19:31:02 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  "blah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> just a home user, nothing urgent, but would like to get it working.
> Appreciate if someone could perhaps point me down the right path.
>
> Have got the network card working fine, and can ping from any of the 3
> windows machines to my newly installed redhat 6.2 machine, and can
also ping
> from the linux machine to any of the windows machines, no problem.
> From the windows machines, however, i cannot telnet - it just hangs
and
> gives up after the default telnet timout for windows 95, about a
minute or
> so, so i never actually get a login.
> I tried telnetting to other ports like pop3, ftp, but same problem.
However
> i can access these services fine if i am attempting from the console
> session, ie, can telnet to 192.168.0.1, the box's ip, and login fine.
>
> tcp dump shows the linux box is seeing the packets requesting the
> connection, but is not responding in any way.  Only responds to ICMP
> echo....
>
> Have read the NET-3 and DNS howtos.  I suspected that maybe a DNS
lookup
> attempt was causing it, so i tried to set it up to only use hosts file
for
> name resolving, and set the order to hosts and nothing else in
linuxconf to
> resolve names.
> given that hosts entries exist for all my windows machines on the
linux
> machine, thought this would work, but no go yet.
>
> is anyone able to suggest where i might look next?
> Thanks in advance
> Chris
>
> remove "_nospam" when replying, or alternatively reply only to
newsgroup.
>
>

You probably don't start telnet as a stand alone daemon so you need to
make sure that inetd (or xinetd) is listening for a telnet connection.
Go to your /etc/inetd.conf file and make sure telnet is not commented
out.  Then go to /etc/services and make sure the telnet port (23) is not
commented out.

Mike
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: HP Pavilion n5135 X Windows
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 19:33:32 GMT

Fixed!

found help at:
http://www.unlimitedtrading.com/linuxlaptop/n5050.html

XFree86 is now running properly with my notebook monitor and now if I
can just get that _____ network card driver to work =)



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From: "Robert Hardy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: test
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 19:41:28 GMT





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NoClue)
Subject: cable setup help
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 19:54:40 GMT

Ok using Mandrake 7.1, nic Diamond HomePNA

Ok using dmesg my eth0 is setting up fine...I get the correct
information.

But it wont detect my dhcp server for a IP.  I hit route -n and I get
nothing but setting for my localdomain  the local IP ect, but nothing
for my @home connect.

ifconfig is getting no errors for my loopback.  I have been using
netcfg for setting it up.  Tried Linuxconf, didnt work either (tried
this first, like netcfg easier I think.)  do I still have to use
netconfig also.

Also I get a error that my http cannot find hostname or somehting like
that.  when I type httpd i get that same errow prolem name something
like ServerName directive.

Cant think of anything else to report...any help would be great.

any question just ask...

Thanks


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