Linux-Misc Digest #945, Volume #23 Fri, 24 Mar 00 18:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: Windows 2000 has 63,000 bugs - Win2k.html [0/1] - Win2k.html [0/1] (Brian V.
Smith)
Digi Board components compatible? (Kerry Cox)
Re: Suggestions on AMD box? (Dorn Wills)
Re: Windows 2000 has 63,000 bugs - Win2k.html [0/1] - Win2k.html [0/1] (JEDIDIAH)
Re: Windows 2000 has 63,000 bugs - Win2k.html [0/1] - Win2k.html [0/1]
Re: LINUX or not? (th499)
Re: How to install new applications??? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
how do I find path for an rpm? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
I Broke It - Update (Raquel Rice)
Re: Digi Board components compatible? (Richard)
NETSCAPE FONTS ("G. R. Gaudreau")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian V. Smith)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 has 63,000 bugs - Win2k.html [0/1] - Win2k.html [0/1]
Date: 24 Mar 2000 22:09:01 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, jdaspinw
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
|> The simple truth is that Microsoft makes a damned fine
|> operating system, and if you can't run Windows without
|> crashing it, then you'd better get the hell out of Linux
|> before it smacks you upside the head so hard you don't even
|> remember your own name. NT 5 may have bugs, but it's a hell
|> of a lot more fun to go home at the end of the day and pop
|> on instant messenger to chat with some friends, then to go
|> into Linux and startx and then see if your kaudioserver is
|> running tonight or not.
Give me a break! There is no one in the world who can consistently run
Windows 95 or 98 (any edition) without random unexplained crashes.
And to say that if it is crashing there must be something wrong with
an application the user has installed just reinforces the fact that
the OS is inherently fragile for an application to bring it to its knees.
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Brian V. Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www-epb.lbl.gov/BVSmith
Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
I don't speak for LBL; they don't pay me enough for that.
Check out the xfig site at http://www-epb.lbl.gov/xfig
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glass is half empty. To the engineer, the glass is twice as big
as it needs to be.
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From: Kerry Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Digi Board components compatible?
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 15:20:41 -0700
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I have an 8-port digiboard that is supposedly only supported by SCO
UNIX. I would like to know if it is now supported under Linux. It is a
Digi board that sits in an ISA card slot and then connects to the
Digiboard with the 8 ports. If this is supported under Linux, we could
move to a different platform. Thanks.
KJ
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I have an 8-port digiboard that is supposedly only supported by SCO UNIX.
I would like to know if it is now supported under Linux. It is a
Digi board that sits in an ISA card slot and then connects to the Digiboard
with the 8 ports. If this is supported under Linux, we could move
to a different platform. Thanks.
<br>KJ
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From: Dorn Wills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Suggestions on AMD box?
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 12:15:12 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I set up an AMD K6-2 400, Tyan Trinity board with 64mb, a Diamond
> Stealth III and so on dirt cheap and it runs like a raped ape!
> ps, select Creative Labs Graphics Blaster 3d CL-GD5464 as your video
> card.... No savage 4 (reliable) drivers yet...
> Ken
> >Looking for suggestions on a good AMD based box to run Linux. What I
> >want is a good, LOW-cost, do-it-yourself project. What motherboard?
> >Sound card? Vid card? Modem (56K)? etc.??? I don't need the fastest set
> >up, If I can put together a 300MHz box for under $500 CDN,
> >woo-hoo, that's perfect. But I'm just as happy with 166MHz.
Ok. My linux box is an old p1 233 that was bought at a swap
meet for $200. I added another 64M (168 pin 60ns EDO of all
things) for a total of 96M, added a second HD, used for
$50. Then I started customisizing. I replaced the old 10X
CDROM with an Afreey 56X to get the multi-read capability
and high speed digital extraction for ripping audio CD's. I
added a 16 bit sound card, which was *similar* to a SB Pro
or SB 16, but sndconfig detected it for exactly what it
was. I acciedentally ordered a Zerus Mach Z processor
upgrade, which was an interesting thing; its an AMD K6 2/400
on an adapter card that allows it to run on a 66mhz bus.
The MB has built in 10/100 eth, Crystal Audio (faulty,
that's why the snd card), 2 meg Matrox Video, (upgradable to
4 meg if I ever find the unit), 2 USB (anyone know if Linux
has USB support? I haven't the foggiest where to start
looking). 3 PCI, 2 ISA (one ISA and one PCI share) PNP bus.
So the expense:
$200 for the computer
$50 for a 6g HD
$96 for 64M of RAM
$50 for the 56X CDROM
I have a switch to select between the two systems, so I only
need my original monotor, and keyboard. I had spare mice,
this computer has a generic serial trackball. My modem is a
3COM/USR 56K (v.32, v.34, v.90, x2, fax, etc) *external* and
has had it's bios flashed five times, so it is even PNP.
Thus, as long as I am not signed into a BBS or Internet, I
can unplug it at put it on the other system.
I have an "everything" install of RH6.1 with takes up the
entirity of the original 2g HD and the 6g is entirely for
MP3s. I just rebuilt the kernel last night, and the
previous day wrestled the last of the bugs out of the
system.
Yes. It screams. I am running the SETI@home stuff and I
typically run work groups in under 27 hours, and it's niced
20.
Another thing I really like is the modem thoughput
skyrockets when the modem is on the linux box. I only get
4.5k/sec tops under WIN95 and I regularly see 5.6k/sec
*sustained* under linux, with some sites running as high as
11.3k/sec and up. I can't wait to build the next one, and
hopefully now that Intel and AMD have had thier little
gigachip war, the price on the slower (LOL I wanted the PIII
733) chips will fall.
Now if you wanted all new stuff, you can get a decent ATX
board for less than $100, an AMD K6 2-500 for $70.00, 64
megs of PC100 SDRAM for $65.00, a mid-tower case for $50.00,
an AGP video card for as little as $30.00, sound card for
$20.00, modem for $20.00. You eat it on the HD and the
monitor though. 13g Quantum Fireballs are going for $135
and the cheapest SVGA monitors run right around $100.
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In Service,
Dorn Wills
CEO R.A.G.N.A.R.O.K. Enterprises
ACLU, AREN, Rev%ULC+State
Just because the world will come to an end tomorrow is no
reason to neglect
to shower tonight.
Let no man take away from the freedoms of another. Those
freedoms were
granted by rite of birth by powers beyond most mortals'
comprehension and
such mortals have not the right to modify those freedoms.
When you think you know me, remember you know me not.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 has 63,000 bugs - Win2k.html [0/1] - Win2k.html [0/1]
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 21:50:27 GMT
On 24 Mar 2000 21:25:55 GMT, Sacha Kaercher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Fri, 24 Mar 2000 16:35:25 GMT, JEDIDIAH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>
>> Xanim is good enough. So is RealPlayer. You can use Quicktime Pro
>> under vmware to 'un-vendor-lock' the newer restricted codecs.
>
>RealPlayer is good. but xanim (and aKtion) are **really** too slow (so
>to speak impossible to use)... much slower than other video player in
>Win NT. Although I have a K6-200 64MO.
I can play cinepak quicktime movies while converting them
to cinepak from sorenson with the converter running in an
instance of vmware.
The mpeg codecs need serious work however.
[deletia]
I run a 128M K63/400 btw.
BTW, does anyone have a good approximation for the 'emulation'
hit for vmware? I'm curious what my vmware instnces are supposed
to be equivalent too.
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one option among many, like in some regime where
product choice is a thing only seen in museums.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 has 63,000 bugs - Win2k.html [0/1] - Win2k.html [0/1]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 22:20:53 GMT
On Fri, 24 Mar 2000 13:52:38 -0800, jdaspinw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>People need to realize that this situation will never come
>to a head. Linux will never replace Windows, and Windows
>will never erradicate Linux. Why? Well it's simple.
>Users who want to get work done quickly and efficiently will
>use the Windows platform and server, because it's what most
>of the world knows. Yes, Linux is hard to setup. Why?
What part of having 20 second delays for screen refreshes and having to
reboot anytime an illegal operation is performed contributes to quick and
efficient use?
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From: th499 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LINUX or not?
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 22:31:31 GMT
First I would like to thank all those people who replied because it would
be impolite for me not to thank you all.
For David...What do you mean by flavor? It sounds like you're talking
about one of them Imacs. I use my computer to communicate and frequent
business related job. Can't spare any extra memory. Anyways, please
don't be too abstract on your writing.
David .. wrote:
>
> As you may expect a number of replies, I will make this short. Once
> linux is installed Linux is Linux. The flavor you choose is like ice
> cream. What flavor do you like??
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How to install new applications???
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 22:26:26 GMT
Thanks, that's the best explanation I've had so far. Now all I have to
do is try and work through it.
Thanks again - Tim
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >I feel like a complete idiot, but I have tried everything to install
> >applications downloaded off the internet. I can't log on to the
> >internet with Linux, but log on with windows, download applications,
as
> >either .tar or .tar.gz files and then transfer over to my Linux
> >desktop. Then I try everything conceivably possible from a terminal
> >window to install.
> >
> >I try "gunzip"ing the .gz files then tar -xvf the tar files but
nothing
> >seems to happen. Can someone please give me a step by step approach
on
> >how to install software in Linux, so that a dummy could understand. I
> >am using Mandrake 7.0.
> >
> >Thanks - Tim
>
> The following are notes I made when puzzling through the aps
> installation procedures for the first time.
>
> Installing new Software
>
> When you download software from the net, it is usually in the form
> of a program.tar.gz or program.tgz file. The first thing you need
> to do is to copy or download directly to one of your Linux
> directories.
>
> In some cases you are familiar with the program involved and know
> where the files of the program are supposed to be distributed. Qu
> frequently, however, you will not know where the program files are
> supposed to go. The safe course is to put the *tar.gz file in a
> "safe" workspace. /usr/src or /usr/local/src or ~/src are directories
> that can be used. Some people put them in /tmp or /usr/local/tmp,
> since the source files are probably going to be deleted after the
> program is compiled and installed.
>
> For the file "newprogram.tar.gz":
> cp newprogram.tar.gz /usr/local/src
>
> cd /usr/local/src
> ls
> To confirm the file was properly copied into this directory.
>
> gzip -d newprogram.tar.gz
> This uncompresses the file and leaves a file named
> newprogram.tar.
>
> tar -tvf newprogram.tar
> The "t" of -tvf provides a list of the contents of
> newprogram.tar without distributing the files into /usr/local/src or
> any other directory. This lets you see where the files are going to
> be after the full untar command is given. Look at the first few lines
> of the list and you will see if they are:
> ./newprogram/README
> ./newprogram/Makefile
>
> Which means that a new directory named "newprogram" will
> be created in the current working directory /usr/local/src
> and it will contain all the files that are in newprogram.tar.
> This means that it is safe to continue to fully untar the
> file.
>
> However, if you see:
> README
> Makefile
> conf.h
>
> This indicates that when you untar the file, all of
> its content
> are going to be dumped into /usr/local/src. Usually
> This is not what you want. You would then:
> mkdir newprogram
> mv newprogram.tar newprogram/
> This puts newprogram.tar into a safer place.
>
> cd newprogram
> tar xvf newprogram.tar
> This completes the untar process.
>
> ls
> You will now see all the files that come with
> newprogram.
>
> less README
> This file usually points out any peculiarites of the
> program and may point you to a file called INSTALL or install.
>
> less INSTALL
> If this file exists, it will give you more info on how
> to compile/install the newprogram.
>
> Even if the instructions are not there, you can make an
> educated guess as to how to proceed.
>
> If there is a file named "configure"?
> If there is the following command will build a Makefile using
> the Gnu autoconfig program:
> ./configure
> make
> make -n install
> The make -n command gives you a preview of what
> the "make install" command will do, without actually performing the
> installation. It is, like the tar tvf command, a safe way to see
> what is going to happen. If you see no problems, then:
>
> make install
>
> If your program does not have a file named "configure":
> a. Is there a file named "Imakefile"? If so, use
> "vi" or another editor, to make any needed changes in the Imakefile.
> vi Imakefile
>
> xmkmf
> make
> make -n install
> make install
>
> b. Is there a file named Makefile? If so, edit
> Makefile with vi and then:
> make
> make install
>
> Regards,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "The last temptation is the greatest treason:
> To do the right deed for the wrong reason."
> --T.S. Eliot
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: how do I find path for an rpm?
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 22:34:42 GMT
There's an rpm on my linux box, but I can't find it. I need to specify
the path of the rpm in order to install it, but no query will allow me
to do that. (the rpm is for mod_perl). How is that done?
Robert Nagle, Austin, Texas
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From: Raquel Rice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: I Broke It - Update
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 13:56:50 -0800
Just to catch everyone up and to pick a brain or two ... On
the 12th I installed RH 6.1 right away. On the 21st I
figured out how to make the printer work. On the evening of
the 21st I had the printer configuration of the Gnome
spreadsheet program "hang" everything. After about 12
minutes, the only thing left to do was to press the reset
button on the computer.
Since that time I've had the help of a couple of people
who've given many fine ideas, but the printer still is not
working. Late last night I decided I was going to take a
new and different tack and started digging through the log
files. It appears to me that maybe I've destroyed a
"module". Below are relevant excerpts from the
/var/log/messages ...
This entry is when the program printer setup "hung" (the
printer wasn't on?)
Mar 21 20:48:15 localhost kernel: lp0 out of paper
This is when I pressed the "Reset" button on the computer
Mar 21 21:00:29 localhost syslogd 1.3-3: restart.
.
.
.
Mar 21 21:00:35 localhost rc: Starting keytable
succeeded
Mar 21 21:00:36 localhost modprobe: can't locate module
parport_lowlevel
Mar 21 21:00:38 localhost modprobe: can't locate module
parport_lowlevel
Mar 21 21:00:39 localhost sendmail: sendmail startup
succeeded
Mar 21 21:00:39 localhost kernel: lp: driver loaded but
no devices found
My /etc/conf.modules does have the alias entry:
alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc
My *guess* (and it is very much a guess at this point, being
so new to Linux) is that I need to rename the
/etc/conf.modules and create an new one, just in case
there's an extra byte hidden in there somewhere that makes
it unreadable, or that parport_pc has been trashed.
Does anyone have any ideas from what you've seen here?
Thanks a lot for your help!
--
Raquel
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Freedom to be your best means nothing unless you're willing to do your best.
--Colon Powell
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From: Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Digi Board components compatible?
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 23:45:27 -0500
Kerry Cox wrote:
> I have an 8-port digiboard that is supposedly only supported by SCO
> UNIX. I would like to know if it is now supported under Linux. It is
> a Digi board that sits in an ISA card slot and then connects to the
> Digiboard with the 8 ports. If this is supported under Linux, we
> could move to a different platform. Thanks.
> KJ
I think I've seen something somewhere which metions Linux support for
Digi hardware.
Have you checked their website?
Richard.
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From: "G. R. Gaudreau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: NETSCAPE FONTS
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 18:04:53 -0500
Why are the fonts so small in Netscape? Is there a way of overriding the
settings in preferences.js to get Navigator to display bigger fonts.
I've got the browser configured to use helvetica (Adobe) 18 points, but
I keep getting these small fonts that are hard to read in the browser.
Websites like Freshmeat are displayed with these small, hard to read,
fonts.
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Rev. G.R. Gaudreau
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http://members.xoom.com/grgaud/
"Half the lies they told me weren't true."
-- Yogi Berra
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