Linux-Misc Digest #945, Volume #26               Sun, 28 Jan 01 04:13:02 EST

Contents:
  Re: ie for linux ("muzh")
  RH6.2 Desktop & 2nd CDROM ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Potato & upgrading w/*.tar.gz  ("J.W. Sargent")
  Re: ie for linux (E J)
  Re: Does this Linux application exist? (Robert Heller)
  ATAPI Not ready? failed "Read CD/Dvd Capacity"? (Ernest Siu)
  Re: configuring debian (Steve Lamb)
  Re: ie for linux ("Sudhakar R.")
  Re: can't use mkbootdisk (David Hart)
  Re: Potato & upgrading w/*.tar.gz (Paul Kimoto)
  Re: rh7 bootdisk ? (Beauford)
  Re: Issues with RPC & NFS (not happy!) (Silviu Minut)
  Re: PPP connection - what does this mean? (Bill Unruh)
  Newsgroup server usage ("Chris")
  Re: How to use VNC? (rdh)
  Am I connecting?? ("Stefan Viljoen")
  Re: Best way to replicate Linux partition? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: What - no WYSIWYG HTML editors?? ("Flacco")
  Re: Linux *Really* Takes Off Beginning May 2001 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: "muzh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ie for linux
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 17:11:17 +1300

No, but it almost runs under wine --
I can get the window up and running, but the menus and buttons are a bit
screwed still.

Recently, the keys of "Sudhakar R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 's computer
randomly danced and produced
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> :

> 
> hi!
> 
> does there exist ie for linux?
> 
> -sud
> 


-- 
Never trust a man in a suit

cll

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RH6.2 Desktop & 2nd CDROM
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 04:11:32 GMT

On the default Red Hat 6.2 installation using gnome an icon for CD-ROM0
is installed.  I now have two CD-ROMs (one CDROM in IDE0 as a slave, and
a CD-RW in IDE1 as a slave).  Is there a way to add a 2nd icon to the
desktop and also make this CD-RW drive accessible.  Thanks Ray


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From: "J.W. Sargent" <"jwsarge(no-spam)"@pacbell.net>
Subject: Potato & upgrading w/*.tar.gz 
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 20:28:24 -0800

Good evening, If anyone could bring me up to speed on the below I'd be
most appreciative.

Debian V2.2

Desire to upgrade to latest:
    util-linux
    modutils
    e2fsprogs
    ppp

Up until now I've always used dselect but the lastest in the above
aren't avail in a deb pkg so I've got the tar.gz files.

Do uninstall the current version w/dselect first then install the new
version manually?
Install the new one manually first the uninstall the old w/dselect?

What does one do with the old when upgrading manually?

I do not want to hose the system but do want to get the old out and new
in so I can install the new kernel (2.4) and it appears that doing it
manually is the only route available at present. Again, any advice will
be greatly appreciated..

Thanks in
advance..............................................................John
Sargent

--
In order to reply please remove the (no-spam) from
my address prior to hitting the send button.




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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ie for linux
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 04:18:03 GMT

No, but since they have ie for solaris and hp-ux, it would be a
recompile for microsoft to get it running on linux.


"Sudhakar R." wrote:

> hi!
>
> does there exist ie for linux?
>
> -sud


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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does this Linux application exist?
Date: 27 Jan 2001 22:37:28 -0600

  Robert Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  In a message on Sat, 27 Jan 2001 18:28:00 -0600, wrote :

RJ> I have a project in mind and I'd like to use existing software if it
RJ> exists. Any URLs or "man xxx" replies would be appreciated.  What I'd
RJ> like to do is monitor a serial port for a contact closure and when one
RJ> is detected, dial several (3 or 4) phone numbers. I know the UPS
RJ> software I use (powstatd) could probably be bent a little to handle the
RJ> first requirement, but I don't know about having it dial phone numbers.

The source code to powerd is available -- this means it can do
*anything* your computer can do.  You could launch a VGA or X11
fireworks program, send one (or more) ATDxxxx commands to your modem,
send WAV files to your sound card, etc.  Or you can write a small
program that uses ioctl() to monitor the serial port.

Actually, powerd is configured with a config file containing the command
scripts to run (powstatd is probably the same).  Instead of the shutdown
command being just "/sbin/shutdown -h +5", it can point to a script file
that runs /usr/sbin/chat one or more times, THEN runs "/sbin/shutdown -h
+5". 

RJ> 
RJ> TIA
RJ> 
RJ> 
RJ>                                                                          






           
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From: Ernest Siu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ATAPI Not ready? failed "Read CD/Dvd Capacity"?
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 04:48:53 GMT

Hi,

Can someone tell me what exactly does this mean?  My harddrive light is
on for every 2 seconds.... for the
following log message

Jan 27 15:38:06 localhost kernel: ATAPI device hdd:
Jan 27 15:38:06 localhost kernel:   Error: Not ready -- (Sense key=0x02)

Jan 27 15:38:06 localhost kernel:   (reserved error code) -- (asc=0x3a,
ascq=0x01)
Jan 27 15:38:06 localhost kernel:   The failed "Read Cd/Dvd Capacity"
packet command was:
Jan 27 15:38:06 localhost kernel:   "25 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
"
Jan 27 15:38:06 localhost kernel: ATAPI device hdd:
Jan 27 15:38:06 localhost kernel:   Error: Not ready -- (Sense key=0x02)

Jan 27 15:38:06 localhost kernel:   (reserved error code) -- (asc=0x3a,
ascq=0x01)
Jan 27 15:38:06 localhost kernel:   The failed "Prevent/Allow Medium
Removal" packet command was:
Jan 27 15:38:06 localhost kernel:   "1e 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
"



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Lamb)
Subject: Re: configuring debian
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 04:54:26 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 19:47:16 GMT, john connolly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have debian potato installed but it doesn't recognize my ethernet card
>(3com509...) on startup. What needs to be set in the config-2.2.17 file
>to fix this? Currently
>CONFIG_NET=y
>CONFIG_NET_VENDOR_3COM=y

    Erm, why not just use menuconfig or xconfig?

-- 
         Steve C. Lamb         | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your
         ICQ: 5107343          | main connection to the switchboard of souls.
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From: "Sudhakar R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ie for linux
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 23:56:42 -0500


mNo, but it almost runs under wine --
mI can get the window up and running, but the menus and buttons are a bit
mscrewed still.
m

I have installed wine from the codeweaver web-site and tried running ie5
from my Windows ME installation. I get error 2 and the error log says
"uanble to find /c/windows/..../ie.exe" or to something of that
effect. I was wondering if there's anyone out there who's been using ie
under wine successfully. 

If yes, plz pass on some tips on how to get it working.

Thanx in advance
-sud


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From: David Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: can't use mkbootdisk
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 03:52:04 +0000

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I am new to linux.  I have redhat v7.  I am trying to make a bootable
> floppy.  I read about mkbootdisk so I tried.  The thing is, my system
> can't find it.  I tried to install the rpm from the CD but it says
> it's
> already on my system so it won't install it.  I can't use it.  HELP!!

/sbin/mkbootdisk

-- 
David Hart


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Potato & upgrading w/*.tar.gz
Date: 28 Jan 2001 00:20:44 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, J.W. Sargent wrote:
> Debian V2.2
>
> Desire to upgrade to latest:
>    util-linux
>    modutils
>    e2fsprogs
>    ppp
>
> Up until now I've always used dselect but the lastest in the above
> aren't avail in a deb pkg so I've got the tar.gz files.

They _are_ available, but in the "unstable" branch (i.e., 2.3-to-be).

> Do uninstall the current version w/dselect first then install the new
> version manually?
> Install the new one manually first the uninstall the old w/dselect?
>
> What does one do with the old when upgrading manually?
>
> I do not want to hose the system but do want to get the old out and new
> in so I can install the new kernel (2.4) and it appears that doing it
> manually is the only route available at present. Again, any advice will
> be greatly appreciated..

If you blindly alter the system, you may have problems performing future
upgrades.  So ...

* If you want to build new programs from .tar.gz form and install them in
  place of the Debian-packaged versions, then you need to "divert" the
  Debian versions.  See the entry "How do I override a file installed by
  a package [...]" in the Debian FAQ, /usr/share/doc/debian/FAQ/index.html
  in the doc-debian package.

* You could get the Debian source for the "unstable" branch (e.g., for
  modutils 2.4.1-* and try to build (i.e., compile and package) a .deb
  file for use on "stable" (Debian 2.2) systems.

  Reportedly some such .deb files have been made available by VA Linux:
  see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-0101/msg02691.html .

That said, I find that e2fsprogs_1.18-3 and util-linux_2.10f-5.1 seem to
work with the 2.4.* kernel.  (ppp_2.3.11-1.4 may work, too.)  You _must_
update modutils, though, unless you want to build kernel without modules.

-- 
Paul Kimoto
This message was originally posted on Usenet in plain text.  Any images, 
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and may be a violation of international copyright law.

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From: Beauford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc,redhat.general
Subject: Re: rh7 bootdisk ?
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 05:29:26 GMT


>I would suspect it is a 1024 cylinder problem, but RH7.0 has the latest lilo.

I have the latest Redhat (7.0) and still get the error above. Is their a fix for this?

Thanks


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From: Silviu Minut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Issues with RPC & NFS (not happy!)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 01:23:29 -0500

On the NFS server you can use linuxconf to configure NFS, i.e. to tell the
system what partitions you want to export, to what machines, and with what
permissions. It's pretty self explanatory. Otherwise, you can modify by
hand /etc/exports and
run exportfs. The files related to nfs, besides /etc/exports are in
/var/lib/nfs. Do a man nfs.

/etc/rc.d/init.d/nfs stop
/etc/rc.d/init.d/nfs start

On the NFS client put a line like

orion:/home     /home/orion     nfs
rsize=4096,wsize=4096,hard,intr 0 0

in /etc/fstab. This line says that the /home partition on the machine orion
(my NFS server) will be mounted on /home/orion (a directory I created on
the NFS client). Then as root, on the client macnine you simply do

mount /home/orion

and you should be set.


Dunno about samba. I don't do windows.



Michael D Lee wrote:

> The scenario is thus:
>
> One pure linux box running 2.2.16, being used as firewall & IP
> masquerade & httpd server.
>
> Second Box - Dual boot Linux/Windoze machine acting as NFS for web
> server & SMB file server for 3 further Windoze boxes.
>
> Problem - cannot mount NFS filesystems on any remote machines either SMB
> windows or NFS
> to linux.  Linux reports that RPC is not registered, and now I'm lost
> :-o
>
> I've followed the Samba How-to, but it's a little out of date and not
> too much use.  I'm not sure,
> but I believe it has something to do with the order the daemons are run
> in.  I'm not sure what daemons/ files are associated with RPC,NFS & SMB,
> and need a little help here.
>
> Anyone care to puppy walk me through this one? (I am a Linux newbie btw)
>
> Please copy me by email also - news evaporates a little too quickly.
>
> Regards
>
> Mick


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: PPP connection - what does this mean?
Date: 28 Jan 2001 07:06:44 GMT

In <950cm5$mvh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Stefan Viljoen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
writes:

]Hi

]I am trying to get my Rh6 system to connect to my ISP via a serial PPP link.
]I have PPP support compiled into the kernel. On attempting to use MiniCom to

Why? RH6 always had ppp support. Why did you recompile?

]connect I get to the ISP, but after specifying the username and password I
]get this error:

]Couldn't find service = shell in cached

In minicom? This has something to do with the remote end not yours. 
They do not want you to log on.

See www.theory.physics.ubc.ca/ppp-linux.html

]What does this mean? I thought at first it meant I did not have PPP support
]in my kernel. How can I fix this? Am I completely on the wrong track? I
]looked through the HOWTO's on this, and I seem to have done most of it
]right. Modem works perfectly, only it seems I cannot get a PPP connection. I
]did try pppd, but it just aborts after connecting, also apparently in a
]related error to the one specified above in Minicom.

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From: "Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Newsgroup server usage
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 02:05:19 -0500

My windows machine is sitting behind my linux box, Mandrake 7.2,and
ipchains. So I ssh'd into a box and forward the news server and port to my
machine so on my linux box, i can access the newserver by using Pan to
connect to localhost. My question is, how can I connect to my linux box, and
use the news server from my windows machine?

Thanks for your time :)

--
Chris Lee
CS1312 T.A.
CS1312 Webmaster
Seven-Six-Two Millimeter - Full Metal Jacket



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (rdh)
Subject: Re: How to use VNC?
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 07:28:48 GMT

On Sun, 28 Jan 2001 13:24:54 +1100, Guy Parry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>     These are on the same HDD. I can't start the server in the Linux
>partition, can I?  I can't seem to get it clear.  You can only be
>booting into one OS at a time.  If I'm in Windows how can I get across
>to the other partition to start Linux's server so I can THEN start the
>viwer from Windows...
>     Or is it impossible?  I don't get it.  The docs says something
>about DNS numbers.  Something about 127.0.0.1...
>Would I type something o do with that in Windows' telnet program?
>Sorry to sound dense; I just can't seem to ask the question the right
>way, thanks to shit documentation....sigh.
>     tia...

You said it yourself...  "You can only be booting into one OS at a
time."  If you're in Windows, then the Linux system *is not running*.

The only way you'd be able to pull off something like this would be to
run Windows under Linux using VMWare.  But then, it'd be kind of
pointless.


--
Russell                                 rdh at salug dot org

"I order a burger with bacon.  I get a burger with
onion.  Am I missing something?"  --AKS, Le Paradis

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From: "Stefan Viljoen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Am I connecting??
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 10:36:13 +0200
Reply-To: "Stefan Viljoen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi!

More PPP troubles - Linux newbie! Can any guru help?

This is my pppd command line:

pppd /dev/ttyS1 115200 CONNECT '/usr/sbin/chat -v "" ATDT123456789 CONNECT
"" Username: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Password: mypass' noipdefault noauth
ipcp-accept-remote noccp crtscts idle 60

this produces the following in /var/log/messages:

Jan 28 10:24:01 localhost pppd[522]: pppd 2.3.7 started by root, uid 0
Jan 28 10:24:02 localhost chat[523]: send (ATDT123456789^M)
Jan 28 10:24:02 localhost chat[523]: expect (CONNECT)
Jan 28 10:24:24 localhost chat[523]: ATDT123456789^M^M
Jan 28 10:24:24 localhost chat[523]: CONNECT
Jan 28 10:24:24 localhost chat[523]:  -- got it
Jan 28 10:24:24 localhost chat[523]: send (^M)
Jan 28 10:24:24 localhost chat[523]: expect (Username:)
Jan 28 10:24:24 localhost chat[523]:  115200^M
Jan 28 10:24:24 localhost chat[523]: CCC^M
Jan 28 10:24:24 localhost chat[523]:
.------------------------------------------------------------------------.^M
Jan 28 10:24:25 localhost chat[523]: |                  South African
Internet Exchange                       |^M
Jan 28 10:24:25 localhost chat[523]: |
|^M
Jan 28 10:24:25 localhost chat[523]: |  DNS: 196.25.1.1    NEWS:
news.saix.net    WWW: http://www.saix.net    |^M
Jan 28 10:24:25 localhost chat[523]: |
|^M
Jan 28 10:24:25 localhost chat[523]: |             Special Services Division
Support Center: 0800222772       |^M
Jan 28 10:24:25 localhost chat[523]: |  pc53-01
|^M
Jan 28 10:24:25 localhost chat[523]:
'------------------------------------------------------------------------'^M
Jan 28 10:24:25 localhost chat[523]: ^M
Jan 28 10:24:25 localhost chat[523]: ^M
Jan 28 10:24:25 localhost chat[523]: User Access Verification^M
Jan 28 10:24:25 localhost chat[523]: ^M
Jan 28 10:24:25 localhost chat[523]: Username:
Jan 28 10:24:25 localhost chat[523]:  -- got it
Jan 28 10:24:25 localhost chat[523]: send (username^M)
Jan 28 10:24:25 localhost chat[523]: expect (Password:)
Jan 28 10:24:26 localhost chat[523]:  username^M
Jan 28 10:24:26 localhost chat[523]: Password:
Jan 28 10:24:26 localhost chat[523]:  -- got it
Jan 28 10:24:26 localhost chat[523]: send (password^M)
Jan 28 10:24:26 localhost pppd[522]: Serial connection established.
Jan 28 10:24:26 localhost pppd[522]: Using interface ppp0
Jan 28 10:24:26 localhost pppd[522]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS1
Jan 28 10:24:30 localhost pppd[522]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
Jan 28 10:24:30 localhost pppd[522]: Modem hangup
Jan 28 10:24:30 localhost pppd[522]: Connection terminated.
Jan 28 10:24:30 localhost pppd[522]: Connect time 0.1 minutes.
Jan 28 10:24:31 localhost pppd[522]: Exit.

I am suspecting that this means that my modem decides to hang up (SIGHUP)
BUT also that a connection was established that I can use (Serial connection
established) if I can somehow keep my modem from not hanging up. What is
sending the SIGHUP signal? How can I prevent this? Does it have to do with
traffic latency, i. e. there is no traffic after the connection is up so it
"thinks" there is no activity and closes it? How do I keep it open? I need
it to stay up a few seconds so I can start X and get Netscape running to
start surfing. Doesn't the "idle" specify that?

Any help appreciated!

Thanks!

Stefan Viljoen
F/EMS Dispatcher
Potchefstroom F/EMS
South Africa
http://home.intekom.com/rylan/



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Best way to replicate Linux partition?
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 08:35:08 GMT

Scott Alfter wrote:
> 
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> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Hugh Lawson wrote:
> >>
> >> >I would use cp -a -p -R instead. Do a man cp to find out why.
> >> >
> >>
> >> On my version of 'cp', man page says:
> >>
> >>    -a, --archive
> >>               same as -dpR
> >
> >So does mine, but I didn't see anyone suggest using the -d swithch.
> 
> Will cp preserve all the ownership and permission information?  I recently
> switched my server from SuSE 6.4 to LFS, and followed this procedure:
>
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>  / v \
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cp will preserve ownership and permission information if you use the -a
switch. I have upgraded many hard drives in the years that I have used
Linux, and the only problem I've ran accross is ommiting the the -a
switch with cp. Other wise everything has worked fine. 

jamess
-- 
"On the side of the software box, in the 'System Requirements' section, 
it said 'Requires Windows 95 or better'. So I installed Linux."

-Anonymous

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From: "Flacco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What - no WYSIWYG HTML editors??
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 02:55:59 -0500


< incredibly long, laborious, common knowledge that is essentially
irrelevant to the original purpose of the thread but probably felt good to
get it off the poster's chest anyway snipped >

Are you intentionally missing the point of the original post, or at least
the clarified follow-up?

Preach all you like; people want - and are going to use - visual design
tools.  Not necessarily WYSIWYG in the strict definition of the term, but
they want to work with content in a more natural way than just laying out
reams of HTML code.  And no, clever text editors that can color tags
different colors are not sufficient.

The table example illustrates this.  If you're using an HTML table and you
want to move a region of the table to another part of the table, you have
some serious editing to do if you're working with a text editor.  A visual
design tool would allow you to highlight a range of cells, and move the
contents elsewhere within the table without even thinking about it.  (At
this point you will feel the urge to disparage anyone who can't expend the
mental energy to do this as underserving of an IP connection; please
restrain yourself.  Some people have other things to do with their mental
energy, and squandering it on a mindless manual task like this is a waste of
time.)

There are people who have the desire to use clean, standard HTML on their
websites,  but they're not going to use a text editor to write it - period.
Responses like yours will simply prompt them to think "Yeah, well, screw
those egg-heads then.  FrontPage it is, and let's see how much VBScript and
ActiveX I can cram into this baby."

I do not believe the assertion that it's technically impossible to produce a
graphical web page layout program that produces correct code.  It doesn't
have to support every feature, and can purposely *not* support features that
would break HTML.  It could have all kinds of dire warnings about how what
the user sees is not a pixel-for-pixel representation of what others will
see, and links to the sections in the bible or q'uran or whatever that
explicitly spell out which circle of hell is reserved for those who use
non-standard features.  That's all fine.  But surely it could handle the
majority of the grunt work that a casual user is faced with when designing a
web page.

The common response to this is "let them use a word processor and save the
resulting file as HTML".  That's not what users want.  They want a tool
specifically designed to edit and maintain websites.  They want to be able
to toggle between the graphical layout and the HTML code in situ.  And, to
make this Linux-relevant again, if they can't get these tools on Linux they
will use Windows.

You really are missing the forest for the trees (or tree).  The issue is not
"do visual design tools produce correct HTML", the issue is "people *are
going to use* visual design tools; how can they be accommodated while
keeping the code on the web clean?".





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux *Really* Takes Off Beginning May 2001
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 08:41:57 GMT

David wrote:
> 
> Steve Withers wrote:
> >
> >
> > Verifying the owner by any other name would smell as sweet.
> >
> > Call it what you will. If you install it, it won't continue to run
> > unless you dial-up and register it with Microsoft.
> 
> I won't be buying any more M$ junk. The last junk I bought from them was
> win95 and then I found a real OS. I'm happy to say I'm M$ FREE!!
> 
>
> Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
> Registered with the Linux Counter.  http://counter.li.org
> ID # 123538
> Completed more W/U's than 99.018% of seti users. +/- 0.01%

The last M$ junk I bought was Windblows 95 too. The most wasteful $75.00
I've ever spent.

jamess
-- 
"On the side of the software box, in the 'System Requirements' section, 
it said 'Requires Windows 95 or better'. So I installed Linux."

-Anonymous

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