Linux-Misc Digest #13, Volume #24 Fri, 31 Mar 00 21:13:02 EST
Contents:
Linux Counter: 140126 registered Linux users ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Partition disappeared? ("Jordan Hiller")
Re: Can't delete #@$!!*&! .config file (Dances With Crows)
Re: What should I buy? (th499)
Re: How to unzip .exe Files under Linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Applixware or StarOffice ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Reading Amiga filesystem in Linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: NO DIALTONE ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux Counter: 140126 registered Linux users
Date: 1 Apr 2000 01:00:05 GMT
This is the monthly report from the Linux Usage Counter.
It is posted on the 1st of every month on the newsgroup
comp.os.linux.misc, and on the Linux Counter "announce" list.
Registration and information is available via the World
Wide Web; connect to URL http://counter.li.org/
This is the preferred interface to the counter.
NOTE: You can UPDATE your record in the counter if you have
your registration key, which was sent to you when you registered.
EMAIL:
To enter your registration into the statistics, send an E-mail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], with the SUBJECT line containing the word "Linux",
such as:
I use Linux at home
I use Linux at work
I use Linux at school
Any questions should be adressed to the maintainer of the counter,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Good luck!
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This is the Linux Counter summary as of Fri Mar 31 17:10:26 2000
There are 140126 persons registerd.
3023 users have been registered by friends.
There are 73424 machines registered.
I guesstimate that between 0.2% and 5% of all Linux users have
registered with the Linux Counter.
So the total number of Linux users is probably between
2,802,520 and 70,063,000 people.
WHERE LINUX USERS LIVE
The table is sorted by number of Linux users divided by population
No Country Pers Fri Mach P/Mpop Mpop
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1 IS Iceland 194 4 89 717.7 0.3
2 NO Norway 3062 49 1345 698.5 4.4
3 FI Finland 3116 55 1603 610.4 5.1
4 DK Denmark 3009 17 1121 573.2 5.2
5 SE Sweden 4797 60 2218 538.9 8.9
6 AQ Antarctica 2 0 0 486.0 0.0
7 NF Norfolk Island 1 0 0 452.7 0.0
8 FO Faroe Islands 17 0 2 387.6 0.0
9 EE Estonia 473 16 285 324.1 1.5
10 SI Slovenia 626 8 162 320.8 2.0
11 GI Gibraltar 8 1 11 278.1 0.0
12 NL Netherlands 3661 51 1819 235.2 15.6
13 MS Montserrat 3 0 1 234.9 0.0
14 AT Austria 1653 31 899 206.0 8.0
15 CA Canada 5929 83 2999 205.7 28.8
16 LU Luxembourg 75 0 31 180.3 0.4
17 AU Australia 3202 50 1795 175.3 18.3
18 NZ New Zealand 599 3 365 168.8 3.5
19 US USA 43590 832 21667 163.6 266.5
20 CH Switzerland 1130 16 670 156.8 7.2
21 BE Belgium 1467 525 736 144.2 10.2
22 IE Ireland 498 5 219 139.6 3.6
23 HU Hungary 1290 48 708 129.0 10.0
24 MC Monaco 4 1 3 126.1 0.0
25 DE Germany 10111 187 5232 121.0 83.5
26 CY Cyprus 85 0 12 114.2 0.7
27 PT Portugal 1090 9 317 110.5 9.9
28 SG Singapore 368 7 143 108.3 3.4
29 AD Andorra 7 0 6 96.2 0.1
30 GB Great Britain 5592 109 2830 95.6 58.5
31 ES Spain 3743 32 1036 95.5 39.2
32 FR France 5317 111 2132 91.2 58.3
33 IL Israel 490 13 229 90.4 5.4
34 KR Korea (South) 4037 19 443 88.8 45.5
35 GL Greenland 5 0 1 85.9 0.1
36 PL Poland 3027 55 1323 78.3 38.6
37 VG Virgin Islands (British) 1 0 0 75.8 0.0
38 CZ Czech Republic 672 21 379 65.1 10.3
39 LI Liechtenstein 2 0 3 64.3 0.0
40 BG Bulgaria 515 6 197 59.8 8.6
41 PW Palau 1 0 0 59.0 0.0
42 KY Cayman Islands 2 0 3 57.7 0.0
43 HR Croatia 287 6 81 57.4 5.0
44 LT Lithuania 208 3 105 57.0 3.6
45 CR Costa Rica 183 0 79 52.8 3.5
46 UY Uruguay 171 0 39 52.8 3.2
47 GR Greece 530 13 210 50.3 10.5
48 BM Bermuda 3 0 4 48.3 0.1
49 IT Italy 2703 64 1074 47.0 57.5
50 MT Malta 16 0 7 42.6 0.4
51 VE Venezuela 891 3 123 40.5 22.0
52 BN Brunei 12 0 7 40.0 0.3
53 SC Seychelles 3 0 0 38.7 0.1
54 MV Maldives 10 0 1 36.9 0.3
55 BR Brazil 5857 59 1178 36.0 162.7
56 BB Barbados 9 0 2 35.0 0.3
57 RO Romania 735 36 344 33.9 21.7
58 SK Slovakia 177 1 117 32.9 5.4
59 FM Micronesia, Federated States 4 0 0 31.9 0.1
60 GU Guam 5 0 1 31.9 0.2
61 SV El Salvador 180 0 25 30.9 5.8
62 AR Argentina 982 6 262 28.3 34.7
63 BZ Belize 6 0 6 27.4 0.2
64 TW Taiwan 536 5 180 25.0 21.5
65 CL Chile 345 6 130 24.1 14.3
66 TT Trinidad and Tobago 30 1 5 23.6 1.3
67 LV Latvia 58 0 41 23.5 2.5
68 MY Malaysia 463 6 103 23.2 20.0
69 BS Bahamas 6 0 2 23.1 0.3
70 RE Reunion 15 0 6 22.1 0.7
71 PR Puerto Rico 84 0 18 22.0 3.8
72 VI Virgin Islands (U.S.) 2 0 1 20.6 0.1
73 ZA South Africa 836 10 358 20.0 41.7
74 MX Mexico 1918 18 374 20.0 95.8
75 MP Northern Mariana Islands 1 0 1 19.1 0.1
76 MH Marshall Islands 1 0 0 17.1 0.1
77 PA Panama 43 0 15 16.2 2.7
78 NC New Caledonia 3 0 9 16.0 0.2
79 AG Antigua and Barbuda 1 0 2 15.2 0.1
80 AW Aruba 1 0 0 14.8 0.1
81 AM Armenia 50 0 8 14.4 3.5
82 AN Netherlands Antilles 3 0 1 14.4 0.2
83 KW Kuwait 27 0 11 13.8 2.0
84 BH Bahrain 8 0 5 13.6 0.6
85 TR Turkey 846 9 174 13.5 62.5
86 PF French Polynesia 3 0 4 13.3 0.2
87 RU Russia 1774 34 678 12.0 148.2
88 NA Namibia 20 0 11 11.9 1.7
89 YU Yugoslavia (Serbia and Monte 125 6 72 11.6 10.8
90 BA Bosnia and Herzegovina 30 0 4 11.3 2.7
91 AE United Arab Emirates 33 1 15 10.8 3.1
92 CO Colombia 390 3 125 10.6 36.8
93 TN Tunisia 92 0 13 10.2 9.0
94 MO Macau 5 0 1 10.1 0.5
95 MQ Martinique 4 0 1 10.0 0.4
96 SR Suriname 4 0 4 9.2 0.4
97 QA Qatar 5 1 3 9.1 0.5
98 MU Mauritius 10 0 3 8.8 1.1
99 UA Ukraine 431 10 186 8.5 50.9
100 VC Saint Vincent and the Grenad 1 0 0 8.4 0.1
101 PY Paraguay 45 0 11 8.2 5.5
102 GP Guadeloupe 3 0 4 7.4 0.4
103 JP Japan 914 6 277 7.3 125.4
104 MK Macedonia 15 2 4 7.1 2.1
105 LC Saint Lucia 1 0 0 6.3 0.2
106 CU Cuba 69 6 18 6.3 11.0
107 BY Belarus 65 5 27 6.2 10.4
108 VU Vanuatu 1 0 3 5.6 0.2
109 BO Bolivia 40 0 11 5.6 7.2
110 EC Ecuador 60 0 14 5.2 11.5
111 PH Philippines 387 4 76 5.2 74.5
112 MD Moldova 22 0 8 4.9 4.5
113 PE Peru 117 0 24 4.8 24.5
114 LB Lebanon 18 1 5 4.8 3.8
115 JM Jamaica 12 0 2 4.6 2.6
116 BW Botswana 6 0 3 4.1 1.5
117 TH Thailand 227 3 77 3.9 58.9
118 DO Dominican Republic 29 0 10 3.6 8.1
119 HN Honduras 18 0 5 3.2 5.6
120 GT Guatemala 35 0 8 3.1 11.3
121 GY Guyana 2 0 0 2.8 0.7
122 MN Mongolia 7 0 5 2.8 2.5
123 OM Oman 6 0 1 2.7 2.2
124 GA Gabon 3 0 3 2.6 1.2
125 KZ Kazakhstan 34 0 16 2.0 16.9
126 NI Nicaragua 8 0 2 1.9 4.3
127 ID Indonesia 383 34 134 1.9 206.6
128 CM Cameroon 23 0 8 1.6 14.3
129 SA Saudi Arabia 28 0 10 1.4 19.4
130 JO Jordan 6 0 3 1.4 4.2
131 AL Albania 4 1 4 1.2 3.2
132 ZM Zambia 11 0 4 1.2 9.2
133 ZW Zimbabwe 13 0 8 1.2 11.3
134 GE Georgia 6 0 25 1.1 5.2
135 PG Papua New Guinea 5 0 1 1.1 4.4
136 LK Sri Lanka 21 1 2 1.1 18.6
137 KG Kyrgyzstan 5 0 2 1.1 4.5
138 IN India 976 16 269 1.0 952.1
139 CN China 1220 4 216 1.0 1210.0
140 EG Egypt 60 1 9 0.9 63.6
141 MA Morocco 27 0 11 0.9 29.8
142 UZ Uzbekistan 19 0 7 0.8 23.4
143 MG Madagascar 10 0 2 0.7 13.7
144 NE Niger 6 0 0 0.7 9.1
145 AZ Azerbaijan 5 0 2 0.7 7.7
146 SL Sierra Leone 3 0 0 0.6 4.8
147 DZ Algeria 18 0 9 0.6 29.2
148 IR Iran 39 0 21 0.6 66.1
149 PK Pakistan 72 5 14 0.6 129.3
150 CI Cote d'Ivoire 8 0 5 0.5 14.8
151 NP Nepal 10 0 0 0.5 22.1
152 SN Senegal 4 0 0 0.4 9.1
153 VN Vietnam 32 0 4 0.4 74.0
154 MR Mauritania 1 0 0 0.4 2.3
155 MZ Mozambique 6 0 2 0.3 17.9
156 CF Central African Republic 1 0 0 0.3 3.3
157 KE Kenya 8 0 2 0.3 28.2
158 KH Cambodia 3 0 1 0.3 10.9
159 TM Turkmenistan 1 0 1 0.2 4.1
160 BD Bangladesh 29 0 8 0.2 123.1
161 TG Togo 1 0 0 0.2 4.6
162 LA Laos 1 0 1 0.2 5.0
163 LY Libya 1 0 1 0.2 5.4
164 TZ Tanzania 5 0 0 0.2 29.1
165 RW Rwanda 1 0 0 0.1 6.9
166 UG Uganda 2 0 0 0.1 20.2
167 AO Angola 1 0 0 0.1 10.3
168 ET Ethiopia 3 0 0 0.1 57.2
169 XW The World (Somewhere in it) 245 207 1 0.0 5771.9
170 NG Nigeria 3 0 1 0.0 103.9
171 WF Wallis and Futuna Islands 1 0 1 0.0 0.0
WHERE PEOPLE USE LINUX
Place Users Percent
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school 28131 20.36%
home 122515 88.69%
not used 19 0.01%
work 57690 41.76%
somewhere 2867 2.08%
==============================
TOTAL 138138 100.00%
NOTE: The total is the 138138 users who answered this question.
Some gave more than one answer, so the number of answers is 211222
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From: "Jordan Hiller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partition disappeared?
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 01:02:30 GMT
Michael Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> You can't unmount / since you are using it.
> You have to boot a floppy. At the boot:
> prompt do
> mount root=/dev/hd??? whatever partition your Linux / is installed on
Are you sure that's exactly right? Typing "mount root=/dev/hdc2" at the
boot: prompt said something like can't find image "mount".
Jordan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Can't delete #@$!!*&! .config file
Date: 31 Mar 2000 20:28:08 EST
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 17:47:33 -0700, Patrick O'Neil
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
[much snippage]
>as root here...what the hell's up with THAT? As root I can/should be
>able to do ANYTHING, no matter how destructive to the health of the
>system). I tried changing the group of the file (the owner is root
>and the group was/is lp) to root but am not permitted. I get a message
>that I am not a member of group root. WHAT?! I am running as root so
>yes I AM a member of the root group.
>I cannot get rid of this file and yet it MUST go. How do I force the
>system to accept the fact that I am root, which makes me GOD...
"debugfs" is your friend, if you haven't tried that already. (you didn't
mention it, though the "immutable" bit made me think.) Sounds like
something... weird happened at some point; might want to e2fsck the
partition after terminating the file with extreme prejudice. HTH,
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.
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From: th499 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What should I buy?
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 01:30:11 GMT
Thanks, that's a solid point to make. I should reconsider more about
since most of my comrades are Microsoft syscophant only because of its
variety of softwares. For me, I want a stable OS to do what normal people
do on computer w/o crashing unexpected. It's a bad habit to restart the
computer--at least--for me. Or perhaps I can get my friends to use Linux,
there gotta be a first person right? Anyways thanks.
Dances With Crows wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 22:30:14 GMT, th499
> <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
> >Should I buy Mandrade 7, Redhat 6.2, or Debian?
>
> None of the above. SuSE 6.4 ;-)
>
> Seriously, there's no way anyone can answer this question without more
> information. What are you planning on doing with it? (HTTP server, DNS
> server, FTP server, warez server, workstation, games, programming,
> mindless hacking...) Are you familiar with Unix, or not? Would you feel
> more comfortable with something that tries to make it easy for a new
user,
> or do you want raw power and total control?
>
> The canonical answer to this question, though, is "Use what your friends
> use." If they all use RedHat, and you use RedHat, they will find it
> easier to help you out. Heck, they'll probably burn a CD for you and you
> won't have to buy anything at all. If you have no Linux-using friends,
> see if there's a Linux User Group in your area. They often do
> install-fests and provide a bit of tech support to new users. HTH,
>
> --
> Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| Programmers are playwrights
> There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| Computers are lousy actors
> But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Lusers are vicious drama
critics
> (Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.
--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How to unzip .exe Files under Linux?
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 01:51:55 GMT
And verily, didst JackStraw hastily scribble thusly:
> Tobias Freitag:
>>Sometimes I've got to download compressed archives that are Win32
>>executables, because there are no .zip or even .tar.gz available.
>>
>>Is there a way to extract such archives under Linux?
> I haven't had the need to try it, but you might try:
> 'wine zipfile.exe'
I've been playing about with WINE for the past few days.
That does work. (I've only managed to get two LARGE apps working under it so
far though... A paint prog... And a 3D renderer. And they failed on some
things)
Mind you, WINE is one of the things currently in concentrated developement,
and the version I tried was from Dec '99... It's probably improved a lot
since then.
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| [EMAIL PROTECTED],uk | "Are you pondering what I'm pondering Pinky?" |
| Andrew Halliwell BSc | |
| in | "I think so brain, but this time, you control |
| Computer Science | the Encounter suit, and I'll do the voice..." |
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|GCv3.12 GCS>$ d-(dpu) s+/- a C++ US++ P L/L+ E-- W+ N++ o+ K PS+ w-- M+/++ |
|PS+++ PE- Y t+ 5++ X+/X++ R+ tv+ b+ DI+ D+ G e++ h/h+ !r!| Space for hire |
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Applixware or StarOffice
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 01:51:56 GMT
And verily, didst Grant Edwards hastily scribble thusly:
> Not that I'm still bitter over that little lapse in judgement
> on my part (buying SW with a node-locked license, that is.)
Node locked? Does that mean it fixes itself to one individual computers IP
address and won't work on any other???
GOD that's bad... (If that's what node locking means... Never heard of it
before)
--
| |What to do if you find yourself stuck in a crack|
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] |in the ground beneath a giant boulder, which you|
| |can't move, with no hope of rescue. |
| Andrew Halliwell BSc |Consider how lucky you are that life has been |
| in |good to you so far... |
| Computer Science | -The BOOK, Hitch-hiker's guide to the galaxy.|
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|GCv3.12 GCS>$ d-(dpu) s+/- a C++ US++ P L/L+ E-- W+ N++ o+ K PS+ w-- M+/++ |
|PS+++ PE- Y t+ 5++ X+/X++ R+ tv+ b+ DI+ D+ G e++ h/h+ !r!| Space for hire |
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Reading Amiga filesystem in Linux?
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 01:51:56 GMT
And verily, didst mark hastily scribble thusly:
> Hi,
> I have an Amiga hard disk but unfortunately no longer have my Amiga..
> I've heard that Linux can read the Amiga FFS filesystem, but I haven't a
> clue how to.. can Linux read it as standard or do I need to download
> stuff? I'm running Suse 6.2 if that makes any difference.
I don't know if it's supplied as a standard module, but you could just
recompile the kernel for it. There's no need to download anything, I don't
think. It's one of the kernel config options.
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| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | "I'm alive!!! I can touch! I can taste! |
| Andrew Halliwell BSc | I can SMELL!!! KRYTEN!!! Unpack Rachel and |
| in | get out the puncture repair kit!" |
| Computer Science | Arnold Judas Rimmer- Red Dwarf |
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|GCv3.12 GCS>$ d-(dpu) s+/- a C++ US++ P L/L+ E-- W+ N++ o+ K PS+ w-- M+/++ |
|PS+++ PE- Y t+ 5++ X+/X++ R+ tv+ b+ DI+ D+ G e++ h/h+ !r!| Space for hire |
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: NO DIALTONE
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 01:51:57 GMT
And verily, didst Ben hastily scribble thusly:
> hi
> i am using Red Hat Linux 6.1
> i got an error message when i try to connect to the internet using kppp
> it is a NO DIALTONE message while the modem trying to dial a number.
> in MS Windows i got this message too but there is a check box called "wait
> for dial tone before dialing" which i can uncheck to dial up.
> can i disable the "wait for dial tone" in linux?
> how to do it?
Look at your modems manual. There's an AT code that forces it to wait longer
for the dial tone. (I had to use it myself when I was in University halls of
residence, because the phone system "blipped" the dial tone 6 times when you
had a message waiting.
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| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Windows95 (noun): 32 bit extensions and a |
| | graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit |
| Andrew Halliwell BSc | operating system originally coded for a 4 bit |
| in |microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company, that|
| Computer Science | can't stand 1 bit of competition. |
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|GCv3.12 GCS>$ d-(dpu) s+/- a C++ US++ P L/L+ E-- W+ N++ o+ K PS+ w-- M+/++|
|PS+++ PE- Y t+ 5++ X+/X++ R+ tv+ b+ DI+ D+ G e++ h/h+ !r!| Space for hire |
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