Linux-Misc Digest #13, Volume #27                 Sat, 3 Feb 01 20:13:02 EST

Contents:
  Re: 2nd par port board (Mark Bratcher)
  A "Clean" Linux (demibee)
  mp3change atleast now to LINUX? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  v1.4.3 of the slang programmer's library released (John E. Davis)
  TCP/IP question ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  TCP/IP problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: A "Clean" Linux (David)
  Re: Kernel NFS problems...help ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: NFS broken with 2.4.1? (MH)
  Re: Red Hat 7 ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Red Hat 7 ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Using  KVM switch with SuSE 6.4 ("Donald A. Greene")
  Re: help on Raid ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Migrating ext2 to reiserfs (Wolfgang Hackl)
  Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (The Ghost In The Machine)
  Re: Convert Word-DOC to PostScript (-ljl-)
  Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Steve Mading)
  Re: A "Clean" Linux (Ralph Miguel Hansen)
  Re: A "Clean" Linux (Paul Kimoto)
  Re: How to measure system load? (Paul Kimoto)
  Re: Modem works in RH6.2, not 7.0 (Jess Canada)
  Re: Convert Word-DOC to PostScript (Bob Hauck)
  Re: Convert Word-DOC to PostScript (Bob Hauck)
  Re: A "Clean" Linux (John Hasler)
  problems with GDM at boot. Any help? ("kgb")

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Bratcher)
Subject: Re: 2nd par port board
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 21:10:03 GMT

On Sat, 03 Feb 2001 03:43:41 GMT, Bob Hauck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Sat, 03 Feb 2001 02:19:46 GMT, John G. Sandell
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Anyone know of an add-on parallel port board that doesn't need Windows
>>drivers to make it work?  
>
>I've never heard of a parallel port that needed Windows drivers.  What
>would that be, a "WinPort"?
>
>Any standard parallel port board should work fine, although if it is not
>at the standard LPT2 address you may need to pass a parameter to your
>kernel to tell it the IO port and IRQ.  I forget the exact syntax as the
>machine with the weird port is at work, but the "parport.txt" file in
>the Documentation directory of the kernel source is the place to look.
>

I've used 1-port and 2-port SIIG PCI cards without any problems.
Linux recognizes them without any additional software.

-- 
Mark Bratcher
To reply, remove _UNSPAM from my email address
=========================================================
Escape from Microsoft's proprietary tentacles: use Linux!

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From: demibee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: A "Clean" Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 21:15:52 GMT

Can someone point me to Linux distribution that has the Least amount
of proprietary utilities and tools built into it -- something that
comes as close as possible to BSD Unix, SunOS, etc.

Thanks in advance,
db


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: mp3change atleast now to LINUX?
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 21:18:33 GMT

Can anyone please tell me why all the mp3 files I down loaded from
napster has vanished from my napster file list and when I search for
them on my computer their the extension has changed to .mp3change
atleast now to LINUX

If anyone has any information about this I would really apprciate it.

THANX


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John E. Davis)
Crossposted-To: alt.lang.s-lang,comp.unix.programmer
Subject: v1.4.3 of the slang programmer's library released
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 21:30:23 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Version 1.4.3 of the multi-platform slang programmer's library is now
available from:

   ftp://space.mit.edu/pub/davis/slang/v1.4/

and the mirrors:

   ftp://ftp.uni-stuttgart.de/pub/unix/misc/slang/
   ftp://ftp.fu-berlin.de/pub/unix/news/slrn/
   ftp://ftp.ntua.gr/pub/lang/slang/
   ftp://ftp.plig.org/pub/slang/
   ftp://ftp.gigabell.net/pub/slang/

For more information about the library and programs that utilize it,
visit the slang web site at <http://www.s-lang.org>.

Version 1.4.3 is primarily a bug-fix release, and will probably be the
last release in the 1.x series.  It is time to move on to v2.x.

Changes since 1.4.2
1.  If init_NAME_module_ns does not exist in a module, then try to
    load init_NAME_module as long as the module is to be imported into
    the Global namespace.
2.  src/sldisply.c: allow more than 200 rows and 250 columns.  Who
    uses such windows?
3.  Allow Void_Type to be specified for the data-type in array_map if the
    function returns nothing.
4.  src/slarray.c: A statement such as [1:-1][[1:-1]] = [1:-1]; was
    causing a core dump.
5.  src/sldisply.c: (Unix/VMS) SLsmg/SLtt routines will write using the file
    descriptor SLang_TT_Write_FD, which, by default, is initialized to 
    fileno(stdout).
6.  src/slposio.c: New C API functions: 
       SLfile_get_fd returns the file descriptor associated with the 
         SLFile object.
       SLfile_dup_fd: duplicate an SLFile object
7.  src/slposio.c: New intrinsics: dup_fd (dup a file descriptor)
8.  SLerrno.c: C API Function: SLerrno_set_errno.
9.  SLerrno.c: More errno values added.
10. Raising complex types to powers supported.
11. slang.c: current_namespace was returning "global" instead of
    "Global" for the global namespace.
12. slang.c: `use_namespace("X");define f();' was not placing `f' into
    `X'.
13. path_is_absolute fixed to return integer
14. src/slarray.c: generate an error when an empty array is passed to
    array_map.
15. src/slarray.c: a=3; a[*] should return an array.
16. Make sure setlocale(LC_NUMERIC,"C") gets called.
17. slvideo.c: SLtt_set_cursor_visibility implemented for win32.
18. slvideo.c: SLtt_get_screen_size corrected for win32 by Zusha P.
19. configure: modified to not automatically assume that -ldl is
    required for dlopen. In addition, [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent
    patches for building dynamically linked library under irix.
20. slsh/Makefile: generated by configure.
21. modules/Makefile: generated by configure
22. src/slimport.c: If no module path has been set, fall back on
    $(prefix)/lib/slang/modules
23. src/Makefile.in: DESTDIR support added by Brad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
24. src/Makefile.in: documentation is installed in $(prefix)/doc/slang
    and no longer in $(prefix)/doc/slang/$(slang_version)
25. sleep intrinsic can take a floating point number to sleep
    fractional seconds.
26. src/slang.c: fix SLang_run_hooks to accept a namespace qualifier.
27. New modules added to the module directory: fcntl, select, termios.

-- 
John E. Davis                   Center for Space Research/AXAF Science Center
617-258-8119                    One Hampshire St., Building NE80-6019
http://space.mit.edu/~davis     Cambridge, MA  02139-4307

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Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 23:53:31 +0200
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: TCP/IP question

hi

when i try to disconnect from certain servers on the internet, netstat
reports the connection is in a "TIME_WAIT" state, and it just remains
that way, it doesnt completely disconnect. eventually, the number of
connections in "TIME_WAIT" increase to the point that i can't use the
internet properly and i have to reboot to solve the problem. is there
any other way to force the connection to close so i dont have to
reboot??

thanks
ali


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Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 23:57:11 +0200
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: TCP/IP problem

hi
i'm reposting this due to a small error i made in the last message.
here's the problem:

when i try to disconnect from certain servers on the internet, netstat
reports the connection is in a "CLOSE_WAIT" state, and it just remains
that way, it doesnt completely disconnect. eventually, the number of
connections in "CLOSE_WAIT" increase to the point that i can't use the
internet properly and i have to reboot to solve the problem. is there
any other way to force the connection to close so i dont have to
reboot??

thanks
ali


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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A "Clean" Linux
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 21:42:24 GMT

demibee wrote:
> 
> Can someone point me to Linux distribution that has the Least amount
> of proprietary utilities and tools built into it -- something that
> comes as close as possible to BSD Unix, SunOS, etc.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> db


Probably Slackware or Debian but I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm
wrong.

-- 
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
Registered with the Linux Counter.  http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
Completed more W/U's than 99.039% of seti users. +/- 0.01%

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,linux.dev.kernel
Subject: Re: Kernel NFS problems...help
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 22:30:32 +0100

In comp.os.linux.help Bob Sully <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
> Peter - I will take a look at the patch code. 

> I'll be happy to notify Alan Cox, if you'll send me his e-mail address.

Nobody needs to send you alan's address. It's plastered all over the kernel
source. He constructed the 2.2.18 release that you are talking about.
Look at the MAINTAINERS list.

I'll take a look at the patch increments now, as I need to do a port of
something anyway.

Peter

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From: MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NFS broken with 2.4.1?
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 14:04:49 +0000

Peter T. Breuer wrote:

> MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Peter T. Breuer wrote:

<snip>

> And I too assume many things ... but I am certain that I'm not going to
> be using either RH or nfs v3 in the near future :-). I'm happy shooting
> down lockd wherever I find it.
> 

Why?  I thought NFS v3 was supposed be much improved over NFS v2, 
particularly as concerns security issues.  I've been very happy with RH 
distributions 6.0 and 6.2 (skipped 6.1) and while there have been some 
issues with 7.0 they don't seem to be any worse than issues reported with 
other distributions.

I certainly prefer RH over Caldera or Mandrake, not to mention some of the 
smaller distros.  I know Debian has a good rep, but the last time I tried 
it I found installation to be just too much of a pain.  I do plan on trying 
their next release, however.

-- 
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composed and transmitted using free software, licensed under the General 
Public License.
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red Hat 7
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 23:08:51 +0100

Arctic Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> there can be resolved with patches and upgrades.  RedHat will release the 
> Linux Kernel 2.4 package in a few weeks, and then eventually RedHat 7.1, so 
> having RedHat 7.0 now will make the upgrade smooth.

Except that it won't. It'll have nothing to do with the transition
being smooth or rough. The only thing you need to update for the new
kernel is modutils. And if you compile, then also binutils. If you use
modem dialups, then also pppd. That's it. I am running kernel 2.4.0
under slackware 3.0 and have not the slightest trouble. I don't even
use glibc.

Please don't spread FUD.


Peter

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red Hat 7
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 23:05:55 +0100

MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The bashing is mostly the result of RH installing a new compiler that is 

Not really.

> not considered acceptable by many users.  As I understand it, it's fine for 
> everything but the kernel (assuming you aren't developing apps).  For 

No .. it's not fine for anything. It produces binaries that are
incompatible with nearly every other binary or library ever produced by
any linux compiler. I don't consider that acceptable at all, for
reasons that should be obvious.

> kernel compilation you need to use "kgcc" instead of "gcc" and this can be 

You do, but that's almost by the way.

> I've been using RH 7.0 for some time on my workstation and am very happy 
> with it.  I also have a test server running RH 7.0 which I recently updated 
> to kernel 2.4.1.  No problems compiling, but I am having a problem with the 
> NFS client (RH 7.0) not wanting to speak to my older NFS server (RH 
> 6.0/2.2.17).

Surprise surprise.

Peter

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From: "Donald A. Greene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.suse
Subject: Re: Using  KVM switch with SuSE 6.4
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 22:21:27 GMT

"Bill Keck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:CCXe6.47665$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I am trying to use a KVM switch to share the keyboard, monitor, and mouse
> between my spare Win98 box and my SuSe 6.4 box.  I can boot the SuSE box
> just fine, use the equipment properly, flip the switch to my Win98 box,
and
> use the equipment properly.  The problem occurs when I switch back to my
> SuSE box.  The keyboard and mouse hang.  I normally have to do a hard
reset
> in order to use my SuSE box again.  Does anyone know what setting I need
to
> make so that my SuSE box doesn't freeze?  Does SuSE just not like KVM
> switches?  Any help is appreciated.
>
>

I use a ATEN CS-122 KVM with no problem.  Have used it with WIN98SE-SuSE 6.4
combination and am now using it with WIN Me - SuSE 7.0.  The CS-122 supports
both PS/2 and PC/AT connectors.  You did not indicate your mouse connector
type.
Some KVM do not support all types as far as polling, etc.  Suggest you
determine if
your KVM supports what you have.  It sounds like since it switches okay that
your
KVM may not support what you have (since it is suppose to make the computer
system think the keyboard-video-monitor are there when in fact they are not)
n



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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: help on Raid
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 23:13:02 +0100

jujubeesRULE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>                             So, when I create then new Raid partition (
>> mkraid --really-force /dev/md0), this partition is not shown when I
>> launch the command df in the shell,
>>                             because, "/dev/md0" raid partition needs to
>> be reformatted.
>> 
>>                            Can I add a disk without formatting ?

> IIRC, its not possible with raid. You can do it with LVM though.

linear and raid 0 doen't need formatting .. they don't have headers.

Peter

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Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 23:47:35 +0100
From: Wolfgang Hackl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Migrating ext2 to reiserfs


Hello,
i just downloaded and installed Kernel v2.4.1. Now I=B4d like to know how=

to change the type of filesystem on my computer.

regards
Wolfgang


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 23:10:48 GMT

Followups.

In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Walt, Southern California, USA
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 wrote
on Sat, 03 Feb 2001 10:54:55 GMT
<95go1v$rbr$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

[snip]

>The dictionary definition of "atheist" is, "one who denies the existence
>of God."  That is definitely an active belief.

More like a bad dictionary definition.

Check out http://www.infidels.net/news/atheism/ .

[.sigsnip]

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here
EAC code #191       1d:08h:18m actually running Linux.
                    Microsoft.  When it absolutely, positively has to act weird.

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From: -ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Convert Word-DOC to PostScript
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 23:19:38 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  b o b h {at} h a u c k s {dot} o r g wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Feb 2001 13:55:57 -0500, Esteban Flocco
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 31 Jan 2001 10:23:28 +0100, [BRDLocutus
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >>can anyone here tell me where to find a Linux-Tool to convert Word Documents
> >>to PS (PDF would be ok, too) ?
>
> >You can do that in four steps:
>
> [snip ridiculous procedure]
>
> You seem to like to do things the hard way.  The easy way is to load the
> file into StarOffice, select a PS printer, and print to a file.  You can
> even do this in Windows with Word if you have a PS printer installed.

Good idea; but you don't have to have a PostScript printer installed,
just the driver (I think).  I've done this and have never had a PS
printer :-(

--
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From: Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 3 Feb 2001 23:29:39 GMT

In comp.os.linux.advocacy Walt, Southern California, USA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

: The dictionary definition of "atheist" is, "one who denies the existence
: of God."  That is definitely an active belief.

Two problems: 1 - Dictionaries don't all agree on the definition.  The
definition you give isn't in the dictionary I use.  2 - How many people
writing dicitonaries are actually atheists?  The authors have about as
much authority on the matter as the general non-hacker public does when
they screw up the definition of "hacker" to mean "cracker".


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From: Ralph Miguel Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A "Clean" Linux
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 00:36:37 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

demibee wrote:

> Can someone point me to Linux distribution that has the Least amount
> of proprietary utilities and tools built into it -- something that
> comes as close as possible to BSD Unix, SunOS, etc.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> db
> 
>
Try Debian or this: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org

Cheers

Ralph Miguel Hansen
Using SuSE 5.3 and 7.0



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: A "Clean" Linux
Date: 3 Feb 2001 19:17:48 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, demibee wrote:
> Can someone point me to Linux distribution that has the Least amount
> of proprietary utilities and tools built into it -- something that
> comes as close as possible to BSD Unix, SunOS, etc.

What do you mean by "proprietary", and why should the absence of
proprietary stuff make a system look similar to SunOS, of all things?

-- 
Paul Kimoto
This message was originally posted on Usenet in plain text.  Any images, 
hyperlinks, or the like shown here have been added without my consent,
and may be a violation of international copyright law.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: How to measure system load?
Date: 3 Feb 2001 19:20:10 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, OpenMind wrote:
> The simplest I have found is 'uptime,' which advises "system load averages
> for 1, 5, and 15 minutes."
>
> Does anybody know what the programmer's idea of "load" entails?   CPU
> utilization?

The proc(5) man page says:

:       loadavg
:              The load average numbers give the number of jobs in
:              the run queue averaged over 1, 5 and 15 minutes.
:              They are the same as the load average numbers given
:              by uptime(1) and other programs.


> Put simplistically, my idea of a 100% loaded system is one on which the
> launching of new processes or tasks begins to slow down already-running
> processes.  I wonder if uptime's idea of load is a good measure of this.

Not necessarily.  A process doing I/O slowly (or blocked for some reason)
counts as 1 toward load.

-- 
Paul Kimoto
This message was originally posted on Usenet in plain text.  Any images, 
hyperlinks, or the like shown here have been added without my consent,
and may be a violation of international copyright law.

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Subject: Re: Modem works in RH6.2, not 7.0
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jess Canada)
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 00:22:29 GMT

Thanks so much, I'll try that!

Jess



Silviu Minut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 
>This is
>what causes the usb module (or any other module for that matter) to be
>loaded at boot.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: Convert Word-DOC to PostScript
Reply-To: b o b h {at} h a u c k s {dot} o r g
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 00:43:39 GMT

On Sat, 3 Feb 2001 04:12:30 GMT, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Bob Hauck writes:
>> The easy way is to load the file into StarOffice, select a PS printer,
>> and print to a file.
>
>You left out the four days of continuous downloading to get StarOffice.

Get a CD from Amazon for $9.95.  It should arrive in less than four days
8->

-- 
 -| Bob Hauck
 -| To Whom You Are Speaking
 -| http://www.haucks.org/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: Convert Word-DOC to PostScript
Reply-To: b o b h {at} h a u c k s {dot} o r g
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 00:43:41 GMT

On Sat, 03 Feb 2001 14:52:02 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm lookin for a non-interactive process to do that
> finding it tough to get it

Ok, that's reasonable.  I use a thing called "antiword" that I found
somewhere (freshmeat.net maybe?).  It outputs ps or txt, but it doesn't
handle embedded "stuff" like graphics and spreadsheets.  Works great if
all you need is the text and tables.

-- 
 -| Bob Hauck
 -| To Whom You Are Speaking
 -| http://www.haucks.org/

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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A "Clean" Linux
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 22:31:24 GMT

demibee writes:
> Can someone point me to Linux distribution that has the Least amount of
> proprietary utilities and tools built into it

I don't know of any distribution tha has any proprietary utilities and
tools built into it, though some include proprietary applications in their
boxed sets.

> something that comes as close as possible to BSD Unix,...

Debian includes only free software (close to 5000 packages of it) and is
put together by volunteers.

> ...SunOS, etc.

??  I thought you said you didn't want proprietary stuff?
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin

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From: "kgb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: problems with GDM at boot. Any help?
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 18:50:41 -0600

      While running numerous apps in an X session using enlightenment, I
crashed. Upon re-booting, I encountered a problem. Now, some way or another,
I inadvertantly selected booting to a GUI within the past few months. I
neglected changing it but always wanted to get around to it. Now when I
boot, I briefly seet he login prompt, then the graphical login prompt
attempts to start. the screen flickers and blinks on and off until stopped..

    I'm forced to hit ctrl+alt+del. Upon doing this, I see two or so
messages:

    According to /var/run/gdm.pid, gdm is already running (488) but seems to
have been mysteriously murdered.

    Or something along those lines

    And then the system goes down for a reboot.

    Would booting into a different runlevel allow me to fix this? How do I
change runlevels before I ever get to the login prompt? If so, what file do
I edit to disable redhat's boot to GUI option?

All help is appreciated
kgb



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