Linux-Misc Digest #13, Volume #26 Thu, 12 Oct 00 13:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Lilo not found in MBR Dell Poweredge RAID (Rob Carlson)
How do I display total page count in troff? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Why doesn't rm -R *.obj work? (Johan Kullstam)
Re: Anybody get Netscape 6 Preview 3 to install? (Ian Davey)
Re: How do I display total page count in troff? (Andreas K�h�ri)
Invalid password under X ("�ric GARANT")
Re: Anybody get Netscape 6 Preview 3 to install? (Paul Lew)
Re: Anybody get Netscape 6 Preview 3 to install? (Dave)
rh 6.1 graphics problems (Ken Siersma)
Redhat 7.0 + ApplixWare 4.37 (Anders Nilsson)
Help!!! I can't get it to fully boot up!! ("Aaron Baff")
Re: Anybody get Netscape 6 Preview 3 to install? (Ian Davey)
Re: How do I display total page count in troff? (Eric Fischer)
Re: Help!!! I can't get it to fully boot up!! (Zbigniew Lisiecki)
Re: Invalid password under X (Andreas K�h�ri)
Re: End-User Alternative to Windows (D. Spider)
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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:17:06 -0400
From: Rob Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Lilo not found in MBR Dell Poweredge RAID
Oops
Active partition was not set. This always worked automatically for me in the
past. Lesson learned.
I toggled /boot to active and voila! Now it works.
Red hat support said and active partion is set ...?(Wait a minute ...)
Kudos to Redhat.
Eric wrote:
> Rob Carlson wrote:
> >
> > This is a tough one. Sorry for the length. It is necessary.
> >
> > I have a Dell Poweredge 4400 w 6 36bb drives configured RAID 5
> > (actually two identical machines). The machine originally had RedHat
> > 6.2 preloaded on it. When I received the machines, the partitions were
> > out of whack, so I decided to reinstall. I remade the container and
> > scrubbed the disks and proceeded with the install. Note that this is
> > hardware RAID, so there should be no issues with raidtab, etc.
> >
> > Once I acquired the proper controller (Dell Percraid) I was able to do
> > an expert install, fdisk, and load everything. The only trouble came
> > when the machine rebooted. Instead of going into LILO, I received the
> > Hit F1 to retry boot or F2 to enter setup message. At this point I can
> > boot with the boot floppy I created, and can traverse the entire
> > filesystem, run commands, etc. this leads me to believe the problem
> > lies entriely with MBR. Here are some of the things I have tried:
> >
> > In bios/Raid configuration I created a non-RAID volume during one
> > attempt, on which to place /boot. This didn't work, and Dell and Red
> > Hat both told me I should be able to use the entire RAID array.
>
> Still I suspect this to be the problem. I've seen these same messages
> far to often on my DELL machine. They tend to occur here when I put an
> extra drive on the IDE controller but haven't jumpered it correctly. On
> a known good system this will make it unbootable (ofcourse :-) ). It has
> nothing to do with lilo, which is probably perfectly written in the MBR,
> and everything with your hardware configuration. The BIOS cannot find
> the HDD/RAID array for some reason. Which reason it is, I cannot tell
> you, I don't have any expierience with RAID arrays, but i suggest you
> either check jumpers/connections or fix the BIOS settings if they are
> wrong for whatever reason.
>
> Eric
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.text,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.misc
Subject: How do I display total page count in troff?
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 16:06:27 GMT
In troff, how do I display the total number of pages in the page header
of my document? For example, how do I display the '5' in "Page 1 of
5"? I know the % register in troff displays the current page number,
but which registers holds the total number of pages?
Derek
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Why doesn't rm -R *.obj work?
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 12 Oct 2000 12:20:35 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian V. Smith) writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Colquhoun) writes:
>
> |> |Excerpt from "man rm":
> |> |...
> |> |
> |> | -r, -R, --recursive
> |> | remove the contents of directories recursively
> |> |...
> |> | GNU fileutils 4.0 November 1998 1
> |>
> |>
> |> That will teach me to make sure I check everything on the Linux box.
> |> I actually checked the 'rm' man page on an older Solaris box.
> |>
> |> Damn, things keep changing while I'm not looking...
> |>
> |> 'rm -R *.obj' still won't decend into subdirectories and remove
> |> all the .obj files.
>
> But the * has NEVER changed. The shell expands the *, not rm, so it will
> only remove files with the suffix .obj in the CURRENT directory.
it'll also happily obliterate any directories (and subdirs and files
of them) which happen to match "*.obj".
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
sysengr
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian Davey)
Subject: Re: Anybody get Netscape 6 Preview 3 to install?
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 16:23:19 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Johan Kullstam
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> I can't get Netscape6 to install. Downloaded the install but when I
>> try to unzip it I get an error from tar. I've cut and pasted the gzip
>> -dc | tar -xvf line from the readme file but it doesn't work.
>
>you want to download the whole thing.
>
><URL:ftp://ftp2.netscape.com/pub/netscape6/english/6_PR3/unix/linux22/sea/netsc
>ape-i686-pc-linux-gnu-sea.tar.gz>
>
>i got it downloaded and installed, but the damn thing dumps an
>immediate core before anything comes up on the screen. i am using
>redhat 7.0 and suspect netscape cannot handle something with the new
>shared libraries. has anyone had better luck?
You need to run it once as root to set up some configuration files. It's a
known problem that's being looked at.
ian.
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Crossposted-To: comp.text,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: How do I display total page count in troff?
From: Andreas K�h�ri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 12 Oct 2000 18:32:08 +0100
In article <8s4nht$kki$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In troff, how do I display the total number of pages in the page header
>of my document? For example, how do I display the '5' in "Page 1 of
>5"? I know the % register in troff displays the current page number,
>but which registers holds the total number of pages?
>
>Derek
Looking in the manuals or tutorials at
<URL:http://www.thphy.uni-duesseldorf.de/~vieth/subjects/computer/troff/>
I can't seem to find a mentioning of how to get the total number of
pages. There is no number register holding this number anyway...
/A
--
Andreas K�h�ri,
Uppsala University, Sweden.
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From: "�ric GARANT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Invalid password under X
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 16:34:35 GMT
(First of all: I am French-speaking so my English cannot be perfect :o)
Hi,
I'm using RedHat 6.0.
I can log-in as 'root' in Console mode. There's no problem.
However, I can't log-in in X (KDE or Gnome). It says my password is invalid
! But this is the same user (root) and the same password than in Console
mode. (BTW, don't tell me that I must be aware of case-sensitive characters,
I do already know this !)
In order to access to X, I have created a "normal" user and then I can
log-in to X with this one. But there must be a way to log-in as 'root' in X
! (because I do want to log-in as root because I'm the lonely user of my
system and I want to have full control on everything; I'm exploring and
learning Linux in the same time.)
In fact.. my question is: why does my root user password work properly in
console mode, but doesn't want to work with graphical interfaces ? And how
to make it work in X ?
Thanks in advance for any help (I'm a newbie with Linux ! :o)
- �ric GARANT
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Lew)
Subject: Re: Anybody get Netscape 6 Preview 3 to install?
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 16:35:39 GMT
On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 16:23:19 GMT, Ian Davey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article , Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> I can't get Netscape6 to install. Downloaded the install but when I
>>> try to unzip it I get an error from tar. I've cut and pasted the gzip
>>> -dc | tar -xvf line from the readme file but it doesn't work.
>>
>>you want to download the whole thing.
>>
>><URL:ftp://ftp2.netscape.com/pub/netscape6/english/6_PR3/unix/linux22/sea/netsc
>>ape-i686-pc-linux-gnu-sea.tar.gz>
>>
>>i got it downloaded and installed, but the damn thing dumps an
>>immediate core before anything comes up on the screen. i am using
>>redhat 7.0 and suspect netscape cannot handle something with the new
>>shared libraries. has anyone had better luck?
>
>You need to run it once as root to set up some configuration files. It's a
>known problem that's being looked at.
>
>ian.
>
Would this account for a "segment fault"? I had just thought that it
was due to my recent upgrade to XFree86 4.0.1 using suse 6.3.
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From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Anybody get Netscape 6 Preview 3 to install?
Date: 12 Oct 2000 11:41:10 -0500
On 12 Oct 2000 09:14:25 -0500, Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I can't get Netscape6 to install. Downloaded the install but when I
>try to unzip it I get an error from tar. I've cut and pasted the gzip
>-dc | tar -xvf line from the readme file but it doesn't work.
I figured it out. The f option is not needed on the tar command.
Netscape needs to fix their doco!
Dave
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From: Ken Siersma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: rh 6.1 graphics problems
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 16:39:35 +0000
Anyone seen this: using RH 6.1 with XFree86-3.3.6-20 with motif apps,
sometimes when I click the mouse button inside the canvas of the app,
the whole screen will blink? Also happens with RH 6.2. Doesn't seem to
be happening on the machines with XFree86-3.3.5-3, but those are running
6.0 anyhow. I do know that upgrading to XFree86-4.0.1 did not help.
Ken
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From: andersn@//no-spam//isy.liu.se (Anders Nilsson)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.applixware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Redhat 7.0 + ApplixWare 4.37
Date: 12 Oct 2000 16:43:50 GMT
Hi There!
I have just made a fresh install of Redhat 7.0 and then added ApplixWare 4.37,
but when I run applix it says the following and then exits:
/usr/bin/ldd: /opt/applix/applix: No such file or directory
/bin/applix: /opt/applix/applix: No such file or directory
/bin/applix: /opt/applix/applix: No such file or directory
However the file /opt/applix/applix does indeed exist.
Running 'strace applix' from the command shell yields a long printout but
basically says the same thing that the file does not exist.
Since I've hade the same kind of problem with some of my other "older"
programs it feels like there is something new (or missing) in Redhat 7.0
that causes this, because I had no such problems when running Redhat 6.2.
Any ideas?
/Anders
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From: "Aaron Baff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help!!! I can't get it to fully boot up!!
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 22:06:25 -0400
I am using RH6.1 on an old SparcStation 10 and I accidentally turned it off
at the login prompt when. when i turned it back on, it said that the
/dev/sda1 hadn't been unmounted correctly, so it did a check. it only was
able to get so far and then it stopped and said failed. then it rebooted. it
did this several times stopping at the same part. finally, it dropped me to
login as the root to try and fix the proble. I am rather new at linux and I
would greatlly appreciate it if anyone could tell me how to fix this
problem. feel free to email me if you would like to or my ICQ# is 42146368.
thank you everyone for helping out.
Aaron Baff
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian Davey)
Subject: Re: Anybody get Netscape 6 Preview 3 to install?
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 16:51:08 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Lew) wrote:
>On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 16:23:19 GMT, Ian Davey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>In article , Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>>
>>>> I can't get Netscape6 to install. Downloaded the install but when I
>>>> try to unzip it I get an error from tar. I've cut and pasted the gzip
>>>> -dc | tar -xvf line from the readme file but it doesn't work.
>>>
>>>you want to download the whole thing.
>>>
>>><URL:ftp://ftp2.netscape.com/pub/netscape6/english/6_PR3/unix/linux22/sea/net
>sc
>>>ape-i686-pc-linux-gnu-sea.tar.gz>
>>>
>>>i got it downloaded and installed, but the damn thing dumps an
>>>immediate core before anything comes up on the screen. i am using
>>>redhat 7.0 and suspect netscape cannot handle something with the new
>>>shared libraries. has anyone had better luck?
>>
>>You need to run it once as root to set up some configuration files. It's a
>>known problem that's being looked at.
>>
>>ian.
>>
>Would this account for a "segment fault"? I had just thought that it
>was due to my recent upgrade to XFree86 4.0.1 using suse 6.3.
Yes, if you don't run it once as root it will seg fault every time...
ian.
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From: Eric Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.text,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: How do I display total page count in troff?
Date: 12 Oct 2000 16:51:44 GMT
In article <8s4nht$kki$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In troff, how do I display the total number of pages in the page header
> of my document? For example, how do I display the '5' in "Page 1 of
> 5"? I know the % register in troff displays the current page number,
> but which registers holds the total number of pages?
You can't refer to the total page count during processing, because
the number isn't known until you get to the end. I can think of
only two ways to do this:
1. Divert the entire text into a macro; find out how many lines
long it is and calculate the page count from that; and then
retrieve the text from the diversion; or
2. Do the processing twice, retaining the page count information
from one run to the next. You would do this by, at the start
of the processing, reading in a number claiming to be the page
count from an external file, then doing the normal processing,
and finally, at the end, writing out the current page count to
the same file. The first time through, the number might be wrong,
but the second run should then include the correct value.
eric
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From: Zbigniew Lisiecki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help!!! I can't get it to fully boot up!!
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 18:59:31 +0200
Hi Aaron,
You must repair Your filesystem with fsck. Just call fsck /dev/sda1.
You possibly have to answere some questions. Normally answere yes
and let fsck repair it, but if you have sensitive data You may make
a backup before and read "man fsck", and "man <your filesystem>"
Aaron Baff wrote:
>
> I am using RH6.1 on an old SparcStation 10 and I accidentally turned it off
> at the login prompt when. when i turned it back on, it said that the
> /dev/sda1 hadn't been unmounted correctly, so it did a check. it only was
> able to get so far and then it stopped and said failed. then it rebooted. it
> did this several times stopping at the same part. finally, it dropped me to
> login as the root to try and fix the proble. I am rather new at linux and I
> would greatlly appreciate it if anyone could tell me how to fix this
> problem. feel free to email me if you would like to or my ICQ# is 42146368.
> thank you everyone for helping out.
>
> Aaron Baff
--
Zbigniew Lisiecki
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Subject: Re: Invalid password under X
From: Andreas K�h�ri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 12 Oct 2000 18:59:18 +0100
In article <vKlF5.50$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
�ric GARANT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>(First of all: I am French-speaking so my English cannot be perfect :o)
>
>Hi,
> I'm using RedHat 6.0.
>I can log-in as 'root' in Console mode. There's no problem.
>However, I can't log-in in X (KDE or Gnome). It says my password is invalid
>! But this is the same user (root) and the same password than in Console
>mode. (BTW, don't tell me that I must be aware of case-sensitive characters,
>I do already know this !)
>
>In order to access to X, I have created a "normal" user and then I can
>log-in to X with this one. But there must be a way to log-in as 'root' in X
>! (because I do want to log-in as root because I'm the lonely user of my
>system and I want to have full control on everything; I'm exploring and
>learning Linux in the same time.)
>
>In fact.. my question is: why does my root user password work properly in
>console mode, but doesn't want to work with graphical interfaces ? And how
>to make it work in X ?
>
>Thanks in advance for any help (I'm a newbie with Linux ! :o)
>
>- �ric GARANT
>
>
>
Use "su -" to temporarly switch to super user mode once you have
logged in as a normal user.
/A
--
Andreas K�h�ri,
Uppsala University, Sweden.
======={ Places to visit: www.gnu.org, www.faqs.org, New Zealand }======
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From: D. Spider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 13:05:02 -0700
It appears that on Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:49:38 GMT, in
comp.os.linux.advocacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
wrote:
>On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:44:17 GMT, Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 13:46:44 GMT,
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 04:27:23 -0600, David Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>conducted with an entirely different philosophy than Windows. Also, Windows
>>>>95/98 and, yes, Me are still running on top of a real mode MS-DOS, no matter
>>>>how much MS may try to say that they are OSes, they are not, the DOS
>>>>underneath is the OS with a protected mode 32bit GUI on top of it. I will
>>>
>>>Not quite. DOS has never been an operating system; it is just a program loader
>>>and file system.
>>>
>>>Calling DOS an OS because it loads first is like calling lilo an operating
>>>system.
>>
>>DOS is an operating system. It provides file and memory services, and in general
>>acts as an interface between the system and applications. That's what an OS
>>does. The analogy between LILO and DOS doesn't really hold water.
>
>No it doesn't. Just about every DOS application ever written has to talk
>directly to the hardware to get anything done.
So what? The fact that DOS provides a minimal API doesn't make it any
less an OS. It's just an OS with a different design philosophy. It has
low overhead, a minimalist API, and makes direct hardware access very
easy. A comparison could be made with the likes of the Mach kernel -
certainly there are some enourmous differences, but there are
similarities too.
Of course, an OS is not simply a kernel, so Win9x is not DOS, but it
definately is an OS built on top of the DOS kernel, and still includes
most of the rest of DOS, although it tries to hide it and pointedly
removed the documentation for it.
>
>My comparison to DOS and LILO holds perfectly well. Once windoze/9x loads, dos
>is out of the picture. Windoze 9x doesn't even use dos hardly anything.
Nonsense. Tell that to Transmeta - who recently had to redesign their
chip to run Win9x at an acceptable speed by adding hardware to handle
16 bit code efficiently. They had initially made the same assumption
you are making - that DOS functions simply as a loader for windows,
then gets out of the way and stays out of the way - and found out the
hard way that this is wrong. The 3k series Crusoe is the original
design, and works fine with Unix, but is a total dog in Windows. The
5k series is different only in that it has the additional hardware to
handle DOS efficiently, and shows a big performance boost over the 3k
series with Win9x.
>You might as well call the BIOS an OS if you really DOS can be considered an OS.
>DOS has a file system and can load programs but that's about it.
That is not an inconsequential distinction, nor is your categorization
exhaustive. DOS provides access to storage, memory, standard input and
output... that's the basic core of what an OS must do.
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