Linux-Misc Digest #21, Volume #24 Sun, 2 Apr 00 01:13:02 EST
Contents:
HELP! ("Joey Le")
Re: DVD-Player and Linux ? ("Joey Le")
Re: HELP! (Leejay Wu)
Re: DVD-Player and Linux ? ("Joey Le")
Re: Linux/Unix What is the difference? (Jim Fuller)
Linux database newsgroups (Neal)
Re: Applixware or StarOffice (Grant Edwards)
Re: Applixware or StarOffice (Grant Edwards)
A simple (I hope ) make question (Jim McKean)
Re: Bash prompting... (Floyd Davidson)
Reinstall ("Don")
Foulup ("Don")
Re: Distro Dystopia (Paul Kimoto)
Re: Reinstall (The Scotts)
cygwin questions (Gerald Pollack)
Problem with kclock program and kde1.1.2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
netscape 4.7 address book problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
VIRUS WARNING !!!!! (Bob)
gnome/enlightenment/Redhat 6.0 without network ("Charles A. Cusack")
Re: NFS cannot mount "/" (Robert Heller)
Re: Linux/Unix What is the difference? (Robert Heller)
Re: When will Mandrake ship new distro? (Oktay Altunergil)
IRC server ("David Wall")
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From: "Joey Le" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HELP!
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 21:12:08 -0500
I just install linux, but when I try to look in documents from the web sites
and from linux, I they dont show me how to really install it, can any one
show me?
Installing Sound Card
Video Card
Modem
Ethernet
DVD-ROM
CD-RW
Can someone please show me any of these, or as much as you can.
I read all the documents, and they dont really show me how to install, just
some junky, no need informations
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From: "Joey Le" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DVD-Player and Linux ?
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 21:32:44 -0500
when you receive any informations, please email me, I m not thinking that I
will check back here.
cyrax <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I would like to know if there is any DVD-drive-manufacturer who also
distributes
> linux drivers for its DVD-drive ? Is there any DVD-drive that definitely
works
> under LINUX (the right software etc...)???
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From: Leejay Wu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELP!
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 21:32:57 -0500
Excerpts from netnews.comp.os.linux.misc: 1-Apr-100 HELP! by "Joey
Le"@mindspring.com
> I just install linux, but when I try to look in documents from the
> web sites and from linux, I they dont show me how to really install
> it, can any one show me?
*snort*
http://www.your-distro-here.com|org
(.org for Debian, most others exist and have a .com)
grab your distro-specific install manual if it's not on the CD
http://www.linuxdoc.org
relevant LDP guides:
Installation and Getting Started Guide
Linux System Administrator's Guide (assuming it's YOUR system,
and you'll be in charge all the time)
Linux User's Guide ('coz you'll want to be able to DO stuff)
relevant HOWTOs:
*at LEAST the following, more based on your needs
Hardware-HOWTO
Ethernet-HOWTO
PPP-HOWTO
XFree86-HOWTO (perhaps)
CD-Writing-HOWTO
> Installing Sound Card
> Video Card
> Modem
> Ethernet
> DVD-ROM
> CD-RW
>
> Can someone please show me any of these, or as much as you can.
> I read all the documents, and they dont really show me how to
> install, just some junky, no need informations
I doubt that. What documents DID you read? There are... thousands
of pages of Linux info out there. I sincerely doubt you read them
all, so you're asking us to play psychic and guess exactly what you
don't understand.
--
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | the silly student |
|--------------------------| he writes really bad haiku |
| #include <stddiscl.h> | readers all go mad |
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From: "Joey Le" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DVD-Player and Linux ?
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 21:32:54 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
cyrax <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I would like to know if there is any DVD-drive-manufacturer who also
distributes
> linux drivers for its DVD-drive ? Is there any DVD-drive that definitely
works
> under LINUX (the right software etc...)???
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From: Jim Fuller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux/Unix What is the difference?
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 20:16:55 -0700
Prasanth Kumar wrote:
>
> Linux stands for "Linux Is Not UniX" ;-)
Thank you.
I'm constantly amazed at the number of otherwise almost intelligent
people who don't know that.
--
Jim Fuller
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From: Neal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux database newsgroups
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 03:19:26 GMT
Why aren't there any Linux database newsgroups?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: Applixware or StarOffice
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 03:19:50 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>And verily, didst Grant Edwards hastily scribble thusly:
>> Not that I'm still bitter over that little lapse in judgement
>> on my part (buying SW with a node-locked license, that is.)
>
>Node locked? Does that mean it fixes itself to one individual computers IP
>address and won't work on any other???
It didn't use the IP address in my case, it used the hostid (sort of a
serial number installed by the mfr.
>GOD that's bad... (If that's what node locking means... Never heard of it
>before)
Yes, that's what it means, and yes, it's bad. In the case of Applix, I had
to install and configure the license manager (which is a pain), and if your
motherboard has to be replaced, or you just upgrade to a new machine (that's
what happened to me), your app stops working. And the vendor typically
won't fix it for you unless you pay. In the Applix case, they wanted about
25% of the purchase price to allow me to move the program to a different
machine.
I've sworn never to buy node-locked software again if there's any possible
way of avoiding it.
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! Zippy's brain cells
at are straining to bridge
visi.com synapses...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: Applixware or StarOffice
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 03:20:59 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Juergen Heinzl wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>And verily, didst Grant Edwards hastily scribble thusly:
>>> Not that I'm still bitter over that little lapse in judgement
>>> on my part (buying SW with a node-locked license, that is.)
>>
>>Node locked? Does that mean it fixes itself to one individual computers IP
>>address and won't work on any other???
>>
>>GOD that's bad... (If that's what node locking means... Never heard of it
>>before)
>
>It is not bad, it is about not trusting people one cannot trust .. people 8-]
I presume you're referring to people in general and not to me in particular.
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! AIEEEEE! I am having
at an UNDULATING EXPERIENCE!
visi.com
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Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 22:22:24 -0500
From: Jim McKean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: A simple (I hope ) make question
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From: Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Bash prompting...
Date: 01 Apr 2000 17:45:27 -0900
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows) wrote:
>On Sat, 1 Apr 2000 20:01:57 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
><<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>>I want to set my bash prompt to display the machine name in bold (i.e.
>>My prompt in bash is currently set by:
>>PS1="[\u@\h \w] > "
>>but I dont know how to set bold as an option. I notice the man page says
>>that \[ will begin a sequence of non-printing characters... Is there
>>a terminal control sequence that will make the prompt text bold?
>
>PS1="\u@\\033[1m\h\\033[m:\w\\$ "
That can be done slightly easier by using single quote marks to
eliminate the need for double slashes. Here is my normal prompt,
which uses cyan for the prompt color:
PS1='\[\033[36m\]\h:\u \w >\[\033[m\]'
--
Floyd L. Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)
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From: "Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Reinstall
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 19:35:15 -0800
Can anyone tell me what would happen if I reinstalled version 6.0 over my
existing version 6.0? Would
everything revert to the default settings? Would I lose anything?
Thanks,
Don
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From: "Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Foulup
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 19:37:19 -0800
I was trying to set up Netscape for my Email and now, when I use UserNet, I
connect to the Internet, but then I just sit there. When I start Netscape I
get this message:
Warning: the following hosts are unknown.
localhost.localdomain
home.netscape.com
home6.netscape.com
internic.net
This means that some or all hosts will be unreachable.
Perhaps there is a problem with your name server?
If your site must use a non-root name server, y ou will need to set the
$SOCKS_NS environment variable to point at the appropiate name server. It
may (or may not)be necessary to set this variable, or the SOCKS host
preference, to the IP address of the host in question rather than its name.
Consult your system administrator."
What did I do wrong and how can I fix it?
Thanks,
Don
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Distro Dystopia
Date: 1 Apr 2000 22:37:37 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Steuber wrote:
> As for the binutils, is there a single place to get them all? I'm
> figuring I can go to freshmeat and find 'em there. Build those from
> source too. Also, where do the standard libraries come into play?
> GCC seemed to include some. Is that where they come from, or are
> there others?
Announcements of binutils releases appear periodically on the gcc
mailing list (e.g., http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2000-03/msg00856.html)
and the libc-hacker mailing list
(http://sourceware.cygnus.com/ml/libc-hacker/2000-03/msg00159.html).
The standard C libraries are packaged in glibc. You can follow its
development through the Cygnus GNU libc page:
http://sourceware.cygnus.com/glibc/.
The standard C++ libraries are integrated into GCC:
http://gcc.gnu.org/.
--
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: The Scotts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Reinstall
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 03:47:00 +0000
Yes, if you allow the installation to format the partitions you will
lose everything. An "update" without repartitioning would save your
current settings. What are you hoping to do by re-installing, or what
is the problem you're having?
Bob Scott
Don wrote:
>
> Can anyone tell me what would happen if I reinstalled version 6.0 over my
> existing version 6.0? Would
> everything revert to the default settings? Would I lose anything?
> Thanks,
> Don
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From: Gerald Pollack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: cygwin questions
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 04:10:20 GMT
(1) I'm trying to port a simple linux program to dos using cygwin. The=20
program includes the following lines (where fname is a character array=20
that holds the name of the file that should be produced by sox):
sprintf(soxCommand,"sox.exe -r 22050 -s -w -c2 foo.raw %s\n", fname);
system( soxCommand );
I can compile the program under DOS/Win95, and run it in a DOS window,=20
but the file that is produced has length of 0 bytes. But if I type the=20
sox command at the DOS command line, sox runs properly, producing the=20
correct *wav file. Under linux, calling sox via system() works fine.=20
(2) In order to run my program under DOS, I had to place a copy of=20
cygwin1.dll into a directory in my windows path. Is there a way to=20
build a complete stand-alone program, which would not require that=20
this dll be installed? I've tried compiling using the -static option,=20
but this didn't change anything.
Thanks,
--=20
Gerald Pollack, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dept. Biology, McGill University
Tel:(514) 398-6418, Fax:(514) 398-5069=20
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Problem with kclock program and kde1.1.2
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 04:19:47 GMT
I wanted to install kclock program in rpm way. When tried i got msg
saying that following libs missing.
libkdeui.so.0
libkdecore.so.0
libmediatool.so.0
I have these libs of versions *.so.2.0.0. They are soft links to these
with *.so and *.so.2. I made softlink *.so.0. Still RPM could not be
installed for dependencies.
I have downloaded from a site which says it is fro kde1.1.2. Still these
problems occur.
Anybody faced this and if so how was it
solved.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: netscape 4.7 address book problem
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 04:22:00 GMT
I am using netscape 4.7 in RH6.1 with kde1.1.2. I used to make entries
in address book from
letter using add sender to address book. After opening address book if
I right click and select new message i get compose page with out
address.
Further if I type address, it does not show the multiple options as
shown in version 4.61. However as browser 4.7 is stable i am using it.
If I try to enter new card, after entering and clicking ok of new card,
all the entries vanish. If I close and open i see the entries.
How to come out of this address book problem.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: VIRUS WARNING !!!!!
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 04:32:25 GMT
This is to let everyone know about a new virus out there that has
infected a massive number of systems. While no one knows the
exact number of problems this virus can cause, some believe the
number is 63,000 or more.
http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2436920,00.html
Some of the key problems with this virus are:
It will slow down your system's performance.
It eats up lots of your hard disk space.
It eats up your RAM memory.
Many of you Windows 95 / 98 programs may no longer function.
The is no fix or cure for this virus. Users are being warned
to watch out for it. If you see this virus, DO NOT load it
into your system!!!!
This virus goes by the name, Windows 2000. If your system has
been infected with the Windows 2000 virus, I strongly suggest
that you re-format you hard drive and load it with Linux.
I hope everyone has (had) a nice April Fools Day.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: "Charles A. Cusack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: gnome/enlightenment/Redhat 6.0 without network
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 23:00:38 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am running Redhat 6.0, and use gnome/enlightenment (the default) for
my window manager. I often have a problem after rebooting--it takes
a few minutes to log in, and when I look (using top, for instance) the
CPU
isn't doing much, so the waiting isn;t because things are still loading.
I think it has to do with the network or something.
Does gnome/enlightenment look at the network for some reason?
I also have a problem getting a new gnome-terminal when my network is
down. So it MUST be that gnome looks at the network for some reason.
I need to fix this problem not only because it is annoying, but because
I am
going to be taking my machine off the network soon, and I don't want to
wait
forever to do anything because the window manager is looking for the
network
and it isn't there.
Can someone help me with this?
Chuck.
Please e-mail me directly if possible:
My e-mail address is:
F@G
where F=blahcusack without the blah and G=puke.cse.unl.edu, with the
puke removed.
(Sorry for the weirdness, but I am sick of getting spams, and I hope
they can't filter this...)
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NFS cannot mount "/"
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 05:22:16 GMT
Jeremy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Fri, 31 Mar 2000 07:38:51 -0600, wrote :
J> Bill Unruh wrote:
J>
J> > In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jeremy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
J> >
J> > >Hi! This is probably a stupid overlook, but I cannot mount "/" from a
J> > >NFS Client. I am running RedHat 6.1. I followed everything in the HOWTO,
J> > >I believe. I can mount any other filesystem ( /mnt/cdrom, /mnt/zip,
J> > >ect...) on my server, but not the root filesystem. everything in my
J> > >exports file is the same :
J> >
J> > ???? Why in the world would you want to mount /? That is teh file system
J> > which boots up your system and has all of your configuration stuff in
J> > it. Your IP number will change, your hostname will change, etc. What are
J> > you trying to do???
J>
J> I got a new laptop that I want configured close to the same as my desktop.
J> How else am I to transfer all my custom config and other files? It is a lot
J> easer to mount / than each subdirectory at a time. My network only consists
J> of three computers for my own use, Sharing the config files it the main use
J> for nfs.
J>
J> Thanks! - Jeremy
J>
J>
It does not really make sense to totally share the root file system.
Each UNIX system needs a (relatively) unique root file system -- each
system really needs to be unique on a LAN, or else all hell breaks out.
There are some things you can do to make things work the way you want.
1) Use YP: make one (always UP!) machine the YP master and the other two
IP slaves. The YP master contains the real passwd file. Each slave
will have a small local password file for use when the machine is booted
outside of the YP network (typically for maintenance situations).
2) You can mount /usr and /home with NFS. *Never* mount / and /var with NFS.
It is possible to mount /var/spool/mail with NFS, but if you do, don't
run sendmail, pop, or imap on the machines NFS mounting /var/spool/mail
(sendmail should be 'queue only' and should pass locally delivered mail
to the machine where /var/spool/mail is a local file system). Note:
/var/log should not ever be shared -- this will make a mess of your
system log files. /var/run should not be shared -- this is where daemon
pid and lock files live. The links to the X11 server and the X11 config
live in /var and /etc. Unless all of the machines have *exactly* the
same video boards, same mice, and same monitors, the X11 config needs to
be unique on each machine.
It is possible to *temporarily* mount a master machine's root file
system as a NFS mount to make it easier to transfer *common* config
info.
Note: diskless workstations do mount the root file system with NFS, but
the file system is always only exported to a *specific* *single*
diskless workstation -- it is not unusual to have a server system with
multiple 'root' file systems, NFS exported to diskless workstations.
There are various hacks for doing this -- older DECStations used DEC's
MOP protocol and maybe tftp and old SUN WorkStations used tftp to get
the kernel and copies of the NFS client software loaded and running
*before* mounting any filesystems. I would guess one could have a truly
interesting RAMdisk setup for a Linux box to do the same thing (Linux
*does* provide for unmounting the root file system and re-mounting it
from a different /dev/??? -- most of the machine *I* use do this -- I
mostly use SCSI systems with the SCSI driver in a module in an initial
boot ramdisk -- in a sense, these are all (sort of) diskless
workstations in a certain sense.
--
\/
Robert Heller ||InterNet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://vis-www.cs.umass.edu/~heller || [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.deepsoft.com /\FidoNet: 1:321/153
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux/Unix What is the difference?
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 05:22:20 GMT
grant@nowhere. (Grant Edwards),
In a message on Fri, 31 Mar 2000 21:09:47 GMT, wrote :
GE> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Christopher Browne wrote:
GE>
GE> >>>> UNIX is a *trademark* of Bell Labs/AT&T/Lucent.
GE> >>>
GE> >>>I thought they sold it to Novell who then sold it to SCO.
GE> >>
GE> >>I think the order is wrong. I think it was SCO then Novell. Last I heard,
GE> >>the Unix trademark ended up as the property of some consortium or other.
GE> >>(X-Open?)
GE> >
GE> >Novell transferred ownership to UNIX System Laboratories, who were then
GE> >acquired by SCO, who have since transferred the trademark to The Open
GE> >Group.
GE>
GE> OK, that sounds about right.
GE>
GE> >> (Does that last sentance parse?)
GE> >
GE> >I think it parses better if it's spelled "sentence" :-).
GE>
GE> Yea, I noticed that a split second too late. Silly
GE> spell-checker doesn't pay much attention to context.
GE>
GE> >In order to call a particular product UNIX, you
GE> >have to:
GE>
GE> >b) Pay a fee for every license issued. Which means that
GE> > "Linux, the New Unix", would no longer be able to be free.
GE>
GE> So how do SCO and Sun get away with giving away free copies of
GE> their versions of "Unix" (I assume their both still officially
GE> "Unix")? I know they've got deep pockets, but it's hard to
GE> imagine that they're actually paying a license fee everytime
GE> somebody installs a free copy of Sun Solaris SCO
GE> OpenServerUnixDesktopWare (or whatever they're peddling this
GE> week.)
I believe they only 'give away' the Personal editions. Sun also sells
*hardware* -- and *sells* the *server* edition for big bucks. SCO
probably sells the server edition of SCO as well.
I suspect that the version that is 'free' is a low end version and is
not a 'full' distribution. The C compiler is not a bundled part
of Solaris (SunOS comes with a K&R cc -- good enough to bootstrap gcc).
GE>
GE> >There's still another problem: UNIX certification mandates
GE> >including STREAMS functionality, which is not part of any
GE> >official Linux kernel.
GE>
GE> There is STREAMS for Linux, and presumably somebody could that
GE> that combo certified (assuming it passes the tests).
GE>
GE> But to paraphrase Bill:
GE>
GE> "Linux: more Unix that Unix."
GE>
GE> --
GE> Grant Edwards grante Yow! Do you need
GE> at any MOUTH-TO-MOUTH
GE> visi.com resuscitation?
GE>
--
\/
Robert Heller ||InterNet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://vis-www.cs.umass.edu/~heller || [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.deepsoft.com /\FidoNet: 1:321/153
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From: Oktay Altunergil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: When will Mandrake ship new distro?
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 05:30:32 GMT
Yeah and that was Redhat 6.1 with diskdrake,lothar and some other stuff
added. They will do the same again.
Bill Unruh wrote:
>
>
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Oktay Altunergil
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >They ship a new version everytime Redhat does so.
>
> No. mandrake used to be a Redhat repackager-- doing some fixes and
> enhancements of Redhat, but basically exactly the same as redhat. That
> is no longer true. They are now a distro in their own right. The
> shipped 7.0 a month ago.
--
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http://www.help.com/
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Reply-To: "David Wall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "David Wall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: IRC server
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 21:44:17 -0800
Any recommendations on an IRC server that runs on Linux? I'm running RH6.1
and would like to host chat, and I've been told that I should probably stick
with IRC because there are so many clients out there. I'd prefer one that
can be moderated and create logs of particular chats.
Also, are there Java IRC clients out there to ease use from web sites where
people don't want to download the IRC client executables (often for fear of
viruses or because they are not well versed in installed applications on
their computers)?
Thanks
David
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