Linux-Misc Digest #21, Volume #19 Sun, 14 Feb 99 10:13:08 EST
Contents:
Re: which distribution package do you recommend? ("Mark Bright")
Re: Modem init woes ( ezppp?) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
HOWTO's all combined? (HTML, zipped) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: MS IIS Vs Apache (Robert Heller)
Re: Looking for nice editor, FTP a must. (burk)
Re: From RedHat to Slackware (Donn Miller)
Re: [Q] Any experiences with SuSE 6.0 ???? (Michael Perry)
Re: Looking for nice editor, FTP a must. (CITIZENAL)
Problem on Make Command (Stephen Leung)
re: bring up an image while not in X windows (Forge Villella)
Re: LILO exceeding 1024 cylinders... (Villy Kruse)
Re: POP3 on RH5.2 (Villy Kruse)
Re: Why Does Linux Thrash So Bad? (Tom Fawcett)
Re: Can't defrag disk - is this normal? ("Robert C. Paulsen, Jr.")
Re: Can't defrag disk - is this normal? (Andreas Schyman)
Re: Really slow tar (Andreas Jaeger)
WordPerfect 8 console version? (Karel Jansens)
Re: set up small word-processing system (Karel Jansens)
Lotus 1-2-3 file (Micha� Kuratczyk)
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (David Kastrup)
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From: "Mark Bright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: which distribution package do you recommend?
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 11:12:52 -0000
I am running SUSE V6, it arrived last Tuesday!
I have previously attempted to install RH5.1 with limited success (X
problems with ATI Xpert@Work), but SUSE 6.0 installed at the 1st attempt...
and just to confirm it is 2.0.x Kernel
Lars Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>S.u.S.E. 6.0 in German is out but the change of the version number to 6.x
doesn't
>have to do with the kernel version, they changed it cos 6.0 is now based on
>glibc, not on libc5 like 5.x used to be.
>And concerning the readiness for 2.2, well i got some trouble compiling a
recent
>version (pre6 i guess) with the ntfs support modules....
>
>
>
>Todd Ostermeier wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Matthias Warkus wrote:
>>
>> : SuSE 6.0 is already out. It still ships with 2.0.36, but it is 2.2.0
ready.
>>
>> Just to clear this up, I was referring to the english version of 6.0.
The
>> German version is out, and has been out for a couple weeks now. There is
>> still no english version, to my knowledge, and with the release of the
>> 2.2.0 kernel today, I would assume the english version will be shipped w/
>> 2.2
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> Todd Ostermeier
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> http://www.ews.uiuc.edu/~ostermer/index.html
>> ICQ UIN: 2253928
>> A-723
>> ________________________________
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Modem init woes ( ezppp?)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 11:20:39 GMT
hi there
no winmodem , if i try different com,cua ports it wont even recognize
the modem , so i have the right port, it just doesnt seem to do
anything except say expecting ok, then i see the atz come up in the
debug screen, i'm stumped?
On Fri, 12 Feb 1999 12:19:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> hi there
>
> linux suse 5.1 is up and running users created, ezppp,netscape
> installed,
> 56k U.S. Rob int voice modem doesnt seem to start, ezppp starts i hit
> connect i here modem pick up i see atdt in window then it says
> expecting OK and basically stops , nothing else happens. Then i shut
> it down after awhile, anyone have any ideas, modem init strings
> maybe???
>
> thanks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: HOWTO's all combined? (HTML, zipped)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 01:41:15 GMT
Hi all,
I have checked the sunsite and know I can download the HOWTO's there
individually, but I am interested in downloading all the HOWTO's and mini's
in HTML format in one big tar'red, gzipped file. Is there any site where I
can get such a file? Thanks.
BOB
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Subject: Re: MS IIS Vs Apache
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Heller)
Date: 14 Feb 1999 03:14:28 -0500
cufc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Fri, 12 Feb 1999 10:12:37 +0000, wrote :
c> Hi, I have been tasked at work to provide a Webserver (Hardware and
c> software)
c> for our corporate intranet, I am an NT/Novell admin by trade but am
c> getting more
c> and more interested in Linux ( I hve been using it for about 12 months)
c> This is maybe a chance to introduce linux into my working environment
c> My question is, although I have been using linux for a while, I have
c> never looked at
c> apache webserver, Can anyone give me any insight into its ease of use
c> and administration
c> The intranet will start off simple at first, but will require setting up
c> departmental security
c> individual homepages/ability to check e-mail via Exchange server/user
c> feedback pages etc
c> etc, my boss will expect an NT server with IIS, but If I can get away
c> with a linux system
c> I intend to install Redhat 5.2 and Apache, anyone got much experience of
c> setting up
c> such a combination and what does it perform like
c>
c> Just looking for some simple opinions on what u think I should do
c> I am quite Familiar with NT Server/IIS combination but as i said before
c> it may be a good chance to promote linux where I work
c>
c> Any help or advice would be much appreciated
Apache installs and runs out-of-the-box (RedHat 5.2). RedHat 5.2 also
includes Samba, which is a MS-Windows file server. With Samba installed
on the Linux box, you boss will be able to do a "Map Network Drive" off
the Linux box -- it will look just like a NT server box (except it won't
BSOD all the time). In fact, except for the lack of ASP nonsense, your
boss probably would be unable to tell the difference, except it will be
faster and more reliable. Also RedHat Linux includes something called
"MARS" which is a Novel Netware server package. You can even run both
Samba and MARS at the same time. And if there are any random Macs
about, you can get and install NetATalk for them. Cover all bases with
one box.
Apache supports virtual hosting. There is available an SSL version
(doesn't come with RedHat's official package), if you need E-Commerce
support.
I don't know about Exchange server.
c>
c> regards
c>
c> Adrain
c>
c> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
c>
c>
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (burk)
Subject: Re: Looking for nice editor, FTP a must.
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 02:33:55 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Frank Sweetser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> and you forgot 3 full featured email packages (4 if you count gnus), browse
> the web (even does tables! =), and compiles elisp code to bytecode =)
>
Do any of the emacs email packages support IMAP? That's what's slowing me down
with adopting it as my usenet reader/mailer.
Thanks,
burk
--
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My Linux File Manager Page: http://www.pobox.com/~burk/LinuxFile.html
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From: Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: From RedHat to Slackware
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 21:45:42 +0000
Fuzzy wrote:
> It's probably the most popular (or was at one time and still is). Be
> forewarned that you can't as easily remove and install a package as with
>
> rpm -e
> rpm -i
>
> Also note that Slackware is different that RedHat as far as it's
> configuration files (for startup). One is s5 like the other is bsd like
> but I forget which is which. You won't have all the nice gui tools like
I believe Slackware is more like BSD, RedHat -> SysV.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Subject: Re: [Q] Any experiences with SuSE 6.0 ????
Date: 14 Feb 1999 11:40:52 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 13 Feb 1999 14:26:59 GMT, Augusto Cardoso
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm a happy user of SuSE 5.3 and wonder if I should move to SuSE 6.0
>I've some concerns about stability of 6.0 and would appreciate to hear
>about the experiences of those of tried the new beast...
>
>Thanks to those sending their comments
>Augusto
I went to SuSE 6 from 5.3 but unfortunately had to get rid of 5.3 first.
I think that SuSE 6 is rather well done and in the manner of previous SuSE
packages contains all the software one would expect. Installation was
quite good. People on the suse mailing list have upgraded without major
issues I believe. You may want to sign on the list and get some opinions
there.
--
Michael Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (CITIZENAL)
Subject: Re: Looking for nice editor, FTP a must.
Date: 13 Feb 1999 05:04:28 GMT
But ya know what? I can't find where Xemacs will delete a file! How do I do it?
Al Tourlakes
Advertising Writing, Graphics & Design
http://members.aol.com/citizenal
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From: Stephen Leung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Problem on Make Command
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 20:25:05 +0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dear Xav,
I am a new player of Linux. I believe that you are more experience than me
because I don't even know how to invoke the 'make' command.
I have downloaded some free software from the network that require me to
install it with the 'make command such as 'make' and 'make install' etc.
However, when I follow the readme to do so, it will come back with me the
error messages of missing 'cc' and 'gcc' etc.
I appreciate it if you could advise me how to resolve this problem. Is
there something missing in my Redhat 5.2 during installation.
Many thanks and regards,
Stephen Leung
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From: Forge Villella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: re: bring up an image while not in X windows
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 23:37:11 +1100
Hi all
I have seen a fellow linux user bring up a image outside of X windows,
and would like to know how to go about doing this. Before you say it,
yes I did ask him how it was done, but he didn't offer any instructions,
( probably because I was pestering him on some other problem I was
having.). So I was wondering if any one else has achieved this and if
so how.
Just for the record he was running Redhat 4.2 at the time, and the image
came up at the login prompt, ( he wasn't using xdm ).
Any help would be gratefully accepted.
--
Forge Villella.
email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
www : http://www.labyrinth.net.au/~forge
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: LILO exceeding 1024 cylinders...
Date: 14 Feb 1999 13:37:51 +0100
In article <7a5o2u$146$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Charles Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Of course if somebody takes the time to look through the LILO source code
>and finds that it does in fact use the BIOS (INT 13h), then I'm wrong. :-)
It does. That makes it possible for the same lilo loader to load from SCSI
disks using the bios code on the scsi adapter.
Villy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: POP3 on RH5.2
Date: 14 Feb 1999 13:42:00 +0100
In article <7a5pqn$ron$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]
>
>When I try to use the pop3 server on a RH5.2 box, I get the error below:
>
>Feb 13 22:09:53 lennon ipop3d[28395]: connect from 127.0.0.1
>Feb 13 22:09:53 lennon ipop3d[28395]: error: cannot execute /usr/sbin/ipop3d: No such
>file or directory
>
>And sure enough, ipop3d does not exist anywhere on my system or the cdroms.
>How does one get pop running on a Redhat box?
>
No, but you need to look for imap on the redhat CD. This might no be so
obvious, but ipop3 is part if the imap package.
Villy
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From: Tom Fawcett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Does Linux Thrash So Bad?
Date: 14 Feb 1999 08:33:12 -0500
"Aaron M. Renn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I've got a 300 MHz Pentium II with 128 MB of RAM and 512 MB of swap. But
> Linux goes into thrash mode all the time on me. If I've got X, two xterms,
> and two netscape instances up, it sometimes starts thrashing and never
> recovers. This is clearly ridiculous, espically since my netscape
> configuration allows only 20MB of memory cache. I've even had X crash with
> out of memory errors. My disk space is getting low on my normal
> filesystems, which seems to be associate with the problem for some reason.
The obvious guess is that something is wrong with your system and
Linux is busy spewing errors to /var/log/messages.
-Tom
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From: "Robert C. Paulsen, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Can't defrag disk - is this normal?
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 07:39:42 -0600
Charles Sullivan wrote:
>
> I have Win 98 and RH5.2 sharing a 10 Gb drive, and boot
> without difficulty to either via LILO in the MBR.
>
> When I try to defragment the Win 98 (FAT32) partition, Win98
> says there's something wrong and to run scandisk
>
> scandisk says there's something amiss with my boot sector
> and offers to fix it. I suspect it's the presence of LILO which
> disturbs it and have thusfar declined the offer.
>
> Has anyone else with a similar setup encountered the same
> situation?
>
> Regards,
> Charles Sullivan
I have linux/Win98 both booted from LILO and don't see this problem. I
regularly access files on the Win98 partitions from Linux. No
conflicts/problems with Win98 Defrag.
Try the following...
1) Be sure you have a bootable Linux Floppy!
2) Let Win98 fix the problem.
3) Re-run scandisk to be sure the problem went away.
4) Boot to Linux (use floppy if Win98 has killed LILO)
5) Rerun LILO.
6) Boot to Win98 and see if the problem came back.
--
Robert Paulsen http://paulsen.home.texas.net
If my return address contains "ZAP." please remove it. Sorry for the
inconvenience but the unsolicited email is getting out of control.
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From: Andreas Schyman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Can't defrag disk - is this normal?
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 13:41:19 +0100
Charles Sullivan wrote:
>
> When I try to defragment the Win 98 (FAT32) partition, Win98
> says there's something wrong and to run scandisk
>
> scandisk says there's something amiss with my boot sector
> and offers to fix it. I suspect it's the presence of LILO which
> disturbs it and have thusfar declined the offer.
>
> Has anyone else with a similar setup encountered the same
> situation?
I had a similar problem once, I ran defrag in Windows and then lilo was
wiped out from the mbr so I had to reinstall it. I was nevereven asked
if I wanted to commit the changes...
I have also encountered similiar problems when I had to run a program
enabling a 6.4 HD to be read and used in FAT 16. The program had to be
loaded first of all in order to set up the partitions so it could fool
DOS into seeing the drive. Defrag however managed to break something so
the program remained, but it couldn�t find any systemfiles on c: so I
had to sys the drive...
My conclusion is not to trust defrag or scandisc either and whenever I
run it I make sure to have updated startdiscs... just in case.
Andreas
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From: Andreas Jaeger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Really slow tar
Date: 14 Feb 1999 12:44:20 +0100
>From the glibc 2.1 FAQ:
2.28. Why is extracting files via tar so slow?
{AJ} Extracting of tar archives might be quite slow since tar has to look up
userid and groupids and doesn't cache negative results. If you have nis or
nisplus in your /etc/nsswitch.conf for the passwd and/or group database,
each file extractions needs a network connection. There are two possible
solutions:
- do you really need NIS/NIS+ (some Linux distributions add by default
nis/nisplus even if it's not needed)? If not, just remove the entries.
- if you need NIS/NIS+, use the Name Service Cache Daemon nscd that comes
with glibc 2.1.
--
Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
for pgp-key finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: jansens_at_ibm_dot_net (Karel Jansens)
Reply-To: jansens_at_ibm_dot_net
Subject: WordPerfect 8 console version?
Date: 14 Feb 1999 13:54:02 GMT
Call me old-fashioned, but I've always loved WordPerfect.
I'm using version 8 at the moment, and I learned that if you buy the server
edition, Corel throws in a console version.
Anybody knows if this console version can be bought/freeloaded separately?
Karel Jansens
jansens_at_ibm_dot_net
=======================================================
"Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day,
but set fire to him and he's warm
for the rest of his life."
(Terry Pratchett - Jingo!)
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From: jansens_at_ibm_dot_net (Karel Jansens)
Reply-To: jansens_at_ibm_dot_net
Subject: Re: set up small word-processing system
Date: 14 Feb 1999 13:54:03 GMT
On Fri, 12 Feb 1999 15:17:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Walter Strong) wrote:
> steve mcadams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> : I've scavenged enough spare parts to put together a system for my son.
> : He's 21, knows little about computers; says he wants to use it as a
> : word-processor, basically no more than a typewriter with a disk
> : system.
>
> : The system I've put together is based on a Packard-Bell DX2-50
> : multimedia system. The thing seems only to have 4meg of ram, and
> [snip]
> : Anyway, I'm concerned that as a near-computer-illterate user, he might
> : have trouble learning emacs or whatever. I personally like mcedit or
> [snip]
> : So does this sound like a decent plan, if so what would you recommend
> : as a WYSIWYG editor that will provide print support? I've also
> [snip]
>
> Given the above, dos with WP6.0 for Dos would be the way to go. It has a
> full WYSIWYG mode, decent file conversion options, and printer drivers
> for anything under the sun. There's nothing non-X that compares with it.
[snip]
I'd say that 4 meg is a tad light to run WP6DOS in full graphics mode.
You'll likely see a lot of sllloowww screen rewrites. OTOH, I've run WP6DOS
on a 286/16 with 5 megs without getting completely insane, so there you
go...
It would run just dandy in text mode, though. And there's always print
preview.
Also don't forget that WP6's file conversions are a little bit dated by now
(which is of course no problemo if you're not interested in Offallice 9x's
format).
Karel Jansens
jansens_at_ibm_dot_net
=======================================================
"Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day,
but set fire to him and he's warm
for the rest of his life."
(Terry Pratchett - Jingo!)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Micha� Kuratczyk)
Subject: Lotus 1-2-3 file
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 14:12:22 GMT
Is there any way to view Lotus 1-2-3 (.wk4) file under Linux?
--
Micha� Kuratczyk
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From: David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: 14 Feb 1999 09:04:54 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kinkster) writes:
> > After all they do
> >tell you what kind of toilet paper you can wipe your ass with.
>
> I remember noticing them after the government made comments about them
> being a safety hazard. On the car I learned to drive in ( '64 Chevy
> Impala ) they were about 2 inches long and were chrome plated steel,
> great for looks but all the better to puncture your skull with.
I'd think it would be sensible for government regulations to prohibit
toilet paper like that.
Good grief.
--
David Kastrup Phone: +49-234-700-5570
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax: +49-234-709-4209
Institut f�r Neuroinformatik, Universit�tsstr. 150, 44780 Bochum, Germany
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