Linux-Misc Digest #46, Volume #24 Wed, 5 Apr 00 01:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Linux under Windows NT ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Any feedback on Win4Lin? (Jon McLin)
Re: Any email clients for Windows AND Linux (Arnt Karlsen)
Re: look for duplicate files (Arnt Karlsen)
Re: /usr almost full ! What NOW! (Arnt Karlsen)
Re: I need help getting AWE64 working (Silviu Minut)
Re: Recommendations Please ("Michael Westerman")
Re: PCMCIA!!! (Bob Martin)
Re: RedHat ISO Images (Rod Smith)
(recommendations) linux icq clone (console only) (Darren Wyn Rees)
Problem with RedHat 6.2 iso file ("William T. Trotter")
Re: Linux under Windows NT (Rod Smith)
Re: NewGuy ("Igor Cruise")
Re: Capturing AVI/MPEG in linux ("Michael Westerman")
Re: Dual-booting between DOS/Win and Linux ("Michael Westerman")
Re: Visio (Microsoft vs. Unix) (Roger Marquis)
Re: Bootdisks, rdev, and root filesystems...aargh! ("Michael Westerman")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Linux under Windows NT
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 02:10:11 GMT
Hi Guys,
Im sure many of you must have tried the "Linux under
Windows" distributions. Here are some I know of:
a> WinLinux 2000
b> Armed Linux
c> Phat Linux
Im sure there are a lot more. I have two Q's:
1> Which on of these will work properly under Windows NT.
2> How do I compare the merits / demerits of one vs. the other to make
my choice of platform. Are there any of the above that have better
support and/or have more stability than the other.
My only intention is to work with Linux without crashing my NT
installation.
Please share your experiences and tell me if you would recommend any of
these.
Thanks,
Anil Punjabi
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 02:20:17 +0000
From: Jon McLin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Any feedback on Win4Lin?
I'm looking for feedback on Win4Lin. We wish to evaluate it at our company, to
allow our desktops to run Linux while still having access to legacy Win32
products during the transition phase. Is it stable enough to be worth my time?
http://www.trelos.com/trelos/Trelos/Products/Product_Information.htm
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From: Arnt Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Any email clients for Windows AND Linux
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 02:50:44 GMT
Michael Kelly wrote:
>
> On Tue, 4 Apr 2000 23:31:08 +0100, "Jamie Webb"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >I triple-boot Linux, Win98, WinNT. I would like to be able to read and
> >download email in all of them. This means that I need an email client that
> >can use a folder on a shared partition for its mailstore and which will run
> >under Windows and Linux (or two compatible programs). Do any exist? I can't
> >be the only person in this position.
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >-- Jamie Webb
> >
>
> I believe there's a Pine for Win32, but I don't know of any GUI
> mailers that are the same for Win32 and X. Even Netscape
> is set up differently on Linux than Windows. Of course if you
..have'nt tried to, but believe Linux nsmail can use a shared mail
directory in a vfat "folder".
..there is also the hw route: set up an old box between your
triboot box and your isp and use as an proxy/mail/firewall/etc box.
--
..mvh Arnt ;-)
scenario, n.:
An imagined sequence of events that provides the context in
which a business decision is made. Scenarios always come in
sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case.
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From: Arnt Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: look for duplicate files
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 03:01:16 GMT
Tim Hockin wrote:
>
> peter pilsl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> : any tool looking for duplicate files (ideally asci and bin-compare) in a
> : folder and all its subfolders.
> : somehow we get in chaos here with a restored backup.
>
> find -exec ls -l {} \; | awk '{print $5, $9}' | sort will show you files
> that have the same size - at least you can start there..
>
..and the obvious follow up: has anyone tried adding automating diff to
compare and linking copies to a source tree, to Tim's cute oneliner?
..in my case, filenames and "folder names" were screwed up M$-style too.
--
..mvh Arnt ;-)
scenario, n.:
An imagined sequence of events that provides the context in
which a business decision is made. Scenarios always come in
sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case.
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From: Arnt Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: /usr almost full ! What NOW!
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 03:11:24 GMT
..my setup:
/ 250 MB
/boot 24 MB
/usr 3G
/usr/local 2G
/home 2G
/opt symlinked to /usr/local/opt
..fs's 24-48% full. ah. ;-)
--
..mvh Arnt ;-)
scenario, n.:
An imagined sequence of events that provides the context in
which a business decision is made. Scenarios always come in
sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case.
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From: Silviu Minut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I need help getting AWE64 working
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 23:24:10 -0400
>
> If you can post the section in /etc/conf.modules, I would greatly
> appreciate it.
>
Sure, here it is with some comments I made when I was tweaking with sound.
# Sound needs dmabuffer. See /usr/src/linux/Documentation/sound/README.modules
"Persistent DMA Buffers"
# alias sound sb is bad because dmabuf will be interpreted as option for sb
# also, sound.o might not get loaded.
alias sound sb
options /lib/modules/2.2.12/misc/sound.o dmabuf=1
options sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5 mpu_io=0x330
options opl3 io=0x388
alias midi awe_wave
post-install awe_wave modprobe opl3; /bin/sfxload /etc/synthgm.sbk
>
> Thanks for all the help so far.
>
> PS: More screwing around got sound. I don't know if I can reproduce
> it. This line seems to be key:
>
> root@Interloper% insmod sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5 mpu_io=0x330
>
> Passing the arguments prevents the device/resource busy error msg.
>
Perfectly normal. Without those options sb is trying to talk to something at the wrong
address or using
the wrong irq and that something, not being the sound card, is of course not
responding. Hence the busy
thing. In fact this is precisely the reason the drivers for this card need to be
compiled as modules,
rather than resident into the kernel, so that you can pass these arguments.
You really need to get the kernel compilation straight. If you get unresolved symbols
then either the
kernel and the module are incompatible (either differnt versions, or buggy) or you
forgot to compile
other modules that are dependencies for the ones with unresolved symbols. The first
case can occur, for
instance if you load one kernel and try to load modules compiled for a different
version. To see what
kernel got loaded you can
uname -a
You can either read the /usr/src/linux/Documentation files for the troublesome modules
to see exactly how
to configure them, or you can hack into the kernel/modules souurce code and the
.config file to see where
the missing symbols are defined. It all comes with experience. We've all been there.
Or most of us,
anyway.
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From: "Michael Westerman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Recommendations Please
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 13:46:45 +1000
i got redhat on poket book 4 $19 aus
i got redhat + caldera + extra crap on poket book 4 $19 aus
i got turbo linux and corel linux free on cover cd's
all seem to be comercial distn's
redhat is my fav but caldera comes close
currently use turbo linux.
caldera had inst problems (eg locked up on a old computer no other probs.)
redhat seemed a little unstable with gnome stopping responding.
turbo linux is too young to tell yet but very nice looking.
installs minimly configured.
Shadow Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> I paid $0.89 for Redhat 6.2 yesterday from Cheapbytes not to mention I
> had the send me some of their free closeouts like NetBSD, OpenBSD,
> FreeBSD and Slackware 3.5. Figured what the heck since they were free
> and shipping was $5 no matter which way you looked at it. :)
>
> Shadow Hunter
>
> On Sun, 02 Apr 2000 23:40:33 GMT, "Tom Hoffmann"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Expensive??? I paid $3.49 for RedHat 6.1 from cheapbytes. The postage
> >($5.00) cost me more than the Linux.
> >
> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bastian)
> >wrote:
> >> On Sun, 02 Apr 2000 16:33:45 +0100, Andy wrote:
> >>>I am looking at purchasing either RH6.1 Linux or SuSE Linux. Which do
> >>>people prefer? What is the manual/documentation like with each product?
> >>>Thanx in advance, Andy
> >>
> >> None of them. They're both very expensive. The docs that come with the
> >> Suse distro are comparatively good, but it has 6 CDs and installs lots
> >> of trash you'll never need. Use Mandrake and buy a good book :-)
> >>
> >> Bastian
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
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From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: PCMCIA!!!
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 23:02:39 -0500
EKK wrote:
>
> Does RedHat's site actually serve a purpose?
>
> ...
>
> Hello,
>
> does the RH6.1 pcmcia-RHEA-1999:044.img boot image actually work?
>
> it gives me a blank list of drivers to pick from when I boot from
> this image on my laptop!
>
> the only other option is to try "linux supp" with
> RH6.0 which means I would first have to install RH6.0 and
> then upgrade to RH6.1.
> This also fails miserably.
>
> The PCMCIA card I have is a 3Com589D, fully supported.
>
> None of the combinations of commands suggested by RH on their site
> seems to work.
>
> Please feedback anyone who has gotten this to actually work.
>
> Thanks,
>
> AG
> --
For what it's worth, I never got RH 6.x to install from CD on my laptop
with a pcmcia CDROM ( 5.2 installed flawlessly ). I got around it by
creating a DOS partition, copying the RedHat directory from the CD to
there, then doing a HD install.
--
Bob Martin
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: RedHat ISO Images
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 04:06:15 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Alex Kaufman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Dheera Venkatraman wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone know what the difference is between the 'zoot-i386.iso' and
>> 'redhat-6.2-i386.iso' cd-rom images?
>
> They are identical, on Redhat's FTP the redhat is a symbolic link to zoot.iso
As I posted in another message, the zoot file has a date of about a month
ago (3/9, IIRC) on all the sites on which I've seen it, including Red
Hat's. Given the release date of RH 6.2, that suggests zoot is a beta
version. ftp://ftp.linuxberg.com has a redhat file with a more recent
date (3/28), and the md5sum for that file is different than for the zoot
file.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux networking & multi-OS configuration
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Darren Wyn Rees)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.icq,icq.public.pc.tech
Subject: (recommendations) linux icq clone (console only)
Date: 5 Apr 2000 03:53:20 GMT
looking for recommendations for an ICQ clone.
console only.
thanks.
darren
[ f/u set to comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux ]
--
Le biblioteche ci hanno dato il potere,
poi il lavoro � venuto e ci ha reso liberi.
Che prezzo ora, per un piccolo assaggio di dignit�...
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From: "William T. Trotter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem with RedHat 6.2 iso file
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 04:12:44 GMT
I have downloaded the file
zoot-i386.iso from a RedHat
mirror site. This file is listed
as having size 671881216 and
has a file date of 03/28/2000.
But after I burnt a cd, it won't boot.
As an alternative, I used dd to make
a boot.img floppy to acess the cd.
But at the point where the installation
program checks out the cd, it
crashes.
I also tried copying the files from the cd
to a hard disk partition, but this doesn't
work either.
So has anybody out there gotten a
RedHat 6.2 iso image to work? If yes,
how about give me a pointer or two.
Thanks in advance.
Tom T.
p.s. apologies for posting from my
home Win2000 box.
==================================================================
William T. Trotter [EMAIL PROTECTED] (480) 965 - 0401
==================================================================
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Linux under Windows NT
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 04:13:12 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <8ce79r$e2r$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Hi Guys,
>
> Im sure many of you must have tried the "Linux under
> Windows" distributions. Here are some I know of:
> a> WinLinux 2000
> b> Armed Linux
> c> Phat Linux
> Im sure there are a lot more. I have two Q's:
>
> 1> Which on of these will work properly under Windows NT.
> 2> How do I compare the merits / demerits of one vs. the other to make
> my choice of platform. Are there any of the above that have better
> support and/or have more stability than the other.
None of these do what you think. Linux doesn't run under Windows, be it 9x
or NT. Linux takes over the computer completely. The distributions to
which you refer include utilities to start the installation under Windows,
and they may include programs you can run in Windows to restart the
computer using Linux, but they don't run Windows and Linux simultaneously.
In order to do what you want, I suggest you check out VMware
(http://www.vmware.com). This is an emulator that lets you run one OS
inside another. There's a version for Linux and another version for NT. If
you want to run Linux from NT, you'd get the NT version, then install any
version of Linux in the VMware virtual machine. The OS that runs in the
emulator won't run as quickly as normal, though.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux networking & multi-OS configuration
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From: "Igor Cruise" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NewGuy
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 23:33:27 -0500
I think the O'Reilly's book 'Running Linux ' is a good starting point. I
still use it as a reference. Good luck!
Paul Manley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm a Windows user (don't sneer) and I want to create a Linux server
> for email, www hosting, a mud, file servering. I've dabbled in linux
> before but now I want to continue seriously in my education. I don't
> piticularly care about a gui. One wouldn't be so bad, but definately
> not necessary. What services should I run? What linux distribution
> should I install?
>
> Note: I don't mind screwing my computer up over and over again in the
> process.
>
> Do you have any suggestions for books or info I need.
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From: "Michael Westerman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Capturing AVI/MPEG in linux
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 14:42:02 +1000
What tools / programs can be used for viewing mpeg mpeg2
mjpeg movies, avi so on.
the mpeg viewer in turbo linux just says broken stream but files work in ms
media player.
Christoph Kukulies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8cd29r$go5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> JS Willans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : Hi,
>
> : I need to capture the dynamics of a window to an avi/mpeg file so that
it
> : can be displayed in a presentation. How might I do this in Linux?
>
> : cheers,
>
> : James
>
> You may take a look at www.qarbon.com
>
> 'LeeLou' is their X11 capture tool.
>
>
> --
> Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Michael Westerman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dual-booting between DOS/Win and Linux
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 14:42:28 +1000
Yes
but on a 486 dx4 100
340 disk
80 meg swap on disk 2 (it is a 80 meg drive.)
16 meg ram
installed redhat 6.0
used custom install
and ram gnome on it. 4 parts to 2 desktops.
apachie netscape and a ethernet connection for biger apps from a net server.
Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
> >
> > John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > : Robert Heininger writes:
> > :> Don't even begin to consider using the X Window System, because you
will
> > :> not have enough disk space for it.
> >
> > : /usr/X11R6 on this system is about 65MB. I ran X for several years on
a
> > : 386/33 system with 8M of RAM and 340M of disk.
> >
> > Hey! I am running X right now (on the machine I am typing on) on
> > a 486sx/50 with 8MB of ram and 80MB of disk.
> >
> > Peter
>
> Are you running KDE? Gnome?
> I have Caldera 2.3 complete install and it took 1+ gig.
>
> --
> Ken Moffat
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Roger Marquis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Visio (Microsoft vs. Unix)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 04:42:08 GMT
Brandt Eppler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I use Visio for diagraming new system installs. I am new
>to the Sun world. Does anyone know where I can get a
>library of hardware templates for visio?
>Please e-mail me I need them ASAP!!
Are you forgetting that Visio was bought by Microsoft? Keeping
Visio off of Unix and Unix templates off Visio was one of the
reasons for the purchase.
Any software company who authors a MS-Visio Unix library is liable
to find that their Windows software:
* doesn't work too well after Microsoft's next Windows service-pack
(ala Corel),
* that their developers are unable to obtain Windows technical
support (ala GO),
* that Micrsoft's install wizard disables their settings/software
(ask any ISP),
* that Microsoft has just begun bundling buggy but free copy-cat
software into Windows eliminating their market share (ala
Netscape, Adobe, Qualcomm, RealAudio, ...)
There's more of course but the above examples illustrate the problem
with even simple libraries like you need for Visio. If you don't
like it, and few Unix users do, write your representatives in
Congress and ask what they're doing to support the DOJ in their
anti-trust case against Microsoft.
--
Roger Marquis
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From: "Michael Westerman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Bootdisks, rdev, and root filesystems...aargh!
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 15:04:11 +1000
hava look at tombst.
a single linux on a disk dist'n it even give instructions on customising it.
includes kernel and compressed ramdisk image chokablock with utils.
his web sight may help.
Neil Koozer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Don Werve wrote:
> >
> > Ok. After reading the Bootdisk-HOWTO and rdev manpages, I decided to
> > start on the path to true geekdom and make my own Linux bootdisk, so
> > that I could manually build a Linux system from the ground up on one of
> > my many spare computers. I've been using Linux for about two years now,
> > but what better way to learn about the guts of the OS than to manually
> > build a full system?
> >
> > Anyways, I made a root filesystem that compressed takes up 900K, and
> > have a 460K kernel. I used dd to copy the kernel image to the disk, and
> > then used `rdev /dev/fd0 /dev/fd0 ; rdev -R /dev/fd0 0` to set the disk
> > as it's own root device. How do you tell the kernel where to look for a
> > compressed root filesystem, so that it can be uncompressed into a
> > ramdisk and booted...?
> >
> > Ideas? Sorry about the cross-post, but it seemed applicable to each
> > newsgroup posted to. Please reply via E-Mail, to hari AT iveleague.org
> >
> > Thanks in advance! :)
>
> This is in the "Setting the ramdisk word" section of the Bootdisk-HOWTO.
>
> For a 2-disk boot/root pair, you would use
> rdev -r /dev/fd0 49152
> 49152 is 0xc000
>
> For a single boot/root disk you would use 0x4000 + the offset to the
> start of the compressed ramdisk image. The offset is the number of 1k
> blocks.
>
> Neil
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