Linux-Misc Digest #68, Volume #24                 Fri, 7 Apr 00 12:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Kill! (Juice)
  Re: Why linux will never go beyond geekdom (Juice)
  [HELP] ftp redirection (Nosediver)
  Re: Download Problems (Douglas Dummond)
  useradd or diskspace? (Nosediver)
  Re: Which word editor? Which spreadsheet? (Philipp Maier)
  Re: MySQL question (Patrick M. Geahan)
  Re: ESC-command to printer (Martin Kroeker)
  Re: belt around cdrom writer folder ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Windows 2000 has 63,000 bugs - Win2k.html [0/1] - Win2k.html [0/1] (Mork)
  Re: recieving mail with pin (Steve)
  Re: Kill! (J Bland)
  Re: Windows 2000 has 63,000 bugs - Win2k.html [0/1] - Win2k.html [0/1] (J Bland)
  Re: How to add more swap space to an existing system? (Alex Hauer)
  Re: GNOME terminal and color text? ("T.E.Dickey")
  Iostat (Jon)
  damn system clock will not stay "right" (Patrick O'Neil)
  Re: Good way to copy my system (Minko Markov)
  Trelos win4lin emulator (Jim Tom Polk)
  Can't mount Win95 FAT32 (Sandhitsu R Das)
  Re: damn system clock will not stay "right" (Patrick O'Neil)
  Voodoo3, X4 and 24 bits (Bruno Barberi Gnecco)
  Re: Why linux will never go beyond geekdom (Steve)
  netscape command not found (Jae Youn Lee)
  Setting date correctly for my time zone (Tazbert)
  Re: how projects within linux commnunity work? (Greg Mizell)

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From: Juice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kill!
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 09:12:20 -0400

 Why can't I kill a process as root? I often get these errant processes, like
my news client for instance (krn). It goes to lala land and I'm screwed. I
can't kill the krn process, I can't kill the X server or anything running on X
at the time. The best I can hope for is to reboot, leaving my hard drive
mounted. This happens not just in X, but console too. The other day I was
playing cdp (cd audio player) and it went bonkers. I couldn't stop it. The
music just kept playing. Good thing I liked the band.

This is very frustrating when your root and you have no control. I reboot more
than windows now. Woopee!

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From: Juice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why linux will never go beyond geekdom
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 09:20:30 -0400

On Fri, 07 Apr 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Purely because it sucks the big one, no games ! no word !
>KDE....it stinks....Gnome.....amateur hacks with pretty graphics
>
>--
>Doh

You've sunken to the same level as those linux proponents who
will go to no end to tell you what's rotten about 'other' os's. Don't like it?
Don't use it. Shut up. No credibility.

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From: Nosediver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [HELP] ftp redirection
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 21:25:10 +0800


Hello.

I am pseudo-newbie. I am not extremely sure if this is the right place to
ask this question. Pardon me if I am wrong.

Background:
==========
I have a http server and it serves say, two domains:

www.mocksite.com
www.foobarsite.com

When someone enters the second site, they are actually just being
redirected to the appropriate directory...

Problem:
========

If someone ftps to say ftp://www.foobarsite.com, they should automatically
be redirected to a particular directory too.

How can I do this? It is a slackware machine.

Thanks a ton.
-- Su.

******************************************************************************
Sujatha Natraj                          Computer Engineering, NUS, Singapore.
                SMTP    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
                HTTP    http://www.comp.nus.edu.sg/~sujathan [UPDATED!]
******************************************************************************



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From: Douglas Dummond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Download Problems
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 09:40:06 -0400

Dummond!

Whu!


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From: Nosediver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: useradd or diskspace?
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 21:41:48 +0800


Hello list-members.

In an attempt to create many users with a different-from-the-default home
directory, I did the following:

naboo:~# useradd -D -b /home/newhome
 useradd: cannot create new defaults file

Suspecting that diskspace is the trouble, I did this:

naboo:~# df 

/* A BIT ABRIDGED */

Filesystem Use% Mounted on 

/dev/hda2 41%  / 
/dev/hda3 88%  /usr
/dev/hda5 17%  /home 
/dev/hda6 11%  /var
/dev/hda7 25%  /opt 
/dev/hdc  100% /cdrom

What is happening? I tried both 'su' and 'su -' to get into root mode;
both give the same error. It is a SLACKWARE machine.

What could be wrong? Where I am I making the mistake?

Thanks a ton for helping out.

--Su.

**
Sujatha Natraj
Undergraduate, National University of Singapore.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.comp.nus.edu.sg/~sujathan
**                                                          


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From: Philipp Maier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which word editor? Which spreadsheet?
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 15:47:11 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Svein Tjonndal wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I need advice on which word editor(s) and spreadsheet(s) to use.
> Compatibility with Word is crucial,
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Then you basically have 2 choices:

1. StarOffice - download it for free at www.sun.com

2. Applixware - there's a beta out which you can download at
http://www.smartbeak.com/SmartBeak.ent?ENT_COMMAND=ENT_HTFILE&HTFILE=ax_milestone.hti

I prefer Applix, but StarOffice works pretty well, too.

PM
-- 

Sylt, SuSE Linux, Maerklin mini-club, Psion Serie 5mx Pro & GPS:

http://www.philipp-maier.de

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From: Patrick M. Geahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MySQL question
Date: 7 Apr 2000 14:12:07 GMT

Patrick M. Geahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I've managed to forget the password for the root account to mySQL on my
: Linux box.  SInce I don't have much on there yet, I'm planning to simply
: wipe the databases I've already created and start a fresh install.

: The problem is, I can't seem to find where MySQL stores database files.
: Does anyone know where these are kept and what they're called?  I'm using
: 3.22.32 on RH6.1.  Thanks for your help.


As much as I hate to follow up my own posts - 

As luck would have it, minutes after I posted this, I found them.  With
the default install, each db was stored as a directory in /usr/local/var.  


-- 

=======Patrick M [EMAIL PROTECTED]=======ICQ:3784715==========
Quote of the Week: "It looked just like Schindler's List out there!" - 
lady on WGN TV News describing a house explosion.  



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From: Martin Kroeker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ESC-command to printer
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 13:27:49 GMT

Michael Hofmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm occasionally using an old 9-pin printer (Citizen 120D) for listings
> etc. I'd like to switch it to 'letter mode' to improve the print
> quality.
> How do I do this in the printcap or print filter?
> Man printcap wasn't very helpful with this problem.

Have the print filter send the corresponding control code before your 
texts, e.g.

echo '\033E' 
cat -

to send a PCL reset sequence (Escape-E) before the data. (Your printer
probably uses Epson Esc-P style commands, but i do not have an esc-p
manual handy). This should go in the 'if' filter, which is run for every
print job.

HTH,
Martin
-- 
Dr. Martin Kroeker, daVeg GmbH Darmstadt  CAD/CAM/CAQ  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
                      Precision Powered by Penguins

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: belt around cdrom writer folder
Date: 7 Apr 2000 09:30:05 -0400

    I don't understand supermount? I can mount and read my CD fine with a
standard fstab line, but supermount doesn't work. (superwhatever does work for
the floppy though, and seems nice!)  You can try the line below.
note: that if you rem out the supermount for the CD and reboot, you won't get
the scsi module loaded for the CD and you have to do it by hand. (That machine
is at home so I don't remember what I did to load it)

/dev/scd0      /mnt/cdrom      iso9660  exec,dev,suid,ro,noauto 0 0

    If you find some docs for supermount, please tell me! The man page is...
well it's not much and I haven't found anything else about it.

    Well good luck, I use $mount /dev/scd0 to get it to work.

                                                                -John

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, me <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writ
es:
>Why can't I list a directory of my cdrom writer, but I am able to write
>to it  with the drive and read the resulting cd from another cd drive?
>It is an HP CD-Writer 7220 series, using Mandrake 7.0. Tried with
>supermount enabled and not enabled.
>
>This also happens with my floppy drive where I can neither read nor
>write.
>
>This happens as root and user also (of course).  The permissions are:
>
>/mnt/cdrom  drwxrwxrwx  root  root
>/mnt/disk      dr-xr-xr-xr  root  root
>
>
>Here is my fstab file:
>
>dev/hda1 /boot ext2 defaults 1 2
>/dev/hda5 swap_upgrade swap defaults 0 0
>/dev/hda6 / ext2 defaults 1 1
>/mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount fs=vfat,dev=/dev/fd0 0 0
>none /proc proc defaults 0 0
>none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
>/mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/cdrom 0 0
>/mnt/cdrom2 /mnt/cdrom2 supermount fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/cdrom2 0 0
>
>???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
????
>
>The Cd-Writer is set-up as /dev/scd0 which is /mnt/cdrom.  I also tried
>putting dev=/dev/scd0 at the end of the line to no avail.
>
>Thanks!!
>
>
>
>
>
>


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mork)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 has 63,000 bugs - Win2k.html [0/1] - Win2k.html [0/1]
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 14:29:44 GMT

On Sun, 26 Mar 2000 18:54:14 GMT, "Michael W. Coulson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


>That's not entirely correct.  Nothing NEVER crashes. :)  I had Linux
>crash on me once - but that's with 2 years + constant running.  That's a
>good track record don't you think. :)  Personally - everything I want to
>run has a Linux version.  My main machine has not booted another OS in
>over 2 years.  My other machine runs Windows(all versions) Beos,
>Freebsd, solaris,etc - only 'cause I like to tinker. :)


 Wish I could go 2 years, let alone 2 days. I'm writing this in
windows (forte free agent) because I got tired of rebooting linux
every time a process hung, which refused being killed in any way.

The differences in peoples mileages is amazing.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Subject: Re: recieving mail with pin
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 7 Apr 2000 13:20:32 GMT

On Thu, 06 Apr 2000 15:55:35 -0400, Russell Schreiber wrote:
>How do you configure pine for an external mail server. I dont know if I
>have this set up correctly or not.  Also, when its set up, what keys to
>you hit to download the messages. No messages ever appear in my inbox.
>Thank you for any help you give. Russell Schreiber
>
Pine is only a mail reader, you need to use something like fetchmail and
sendmail to get and send mail.  For some it seems to work straight away
and for others it can bee a long haul, I havn't got mine working yet, still
using netscape for mail. 

-- 
Cheers
Steve              email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

%HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee  0 pps. 

web http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~sjlen/

or  http://start.at/zero-pps

 11:05pm  up 3 days,  1:40,  4 users,  load average: 1.30, 1.13, 1.05

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J Bland)
Subject: Re: Kill!
Date: 7 Apr 2000 14:43:27 GMT

On Fri, 7 Apr 2000 09:12:20 -0400, Juice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why can't I kill a process as root? I often get these errant processes, like
>my news client for instance (krn). It goes to lala land and I'm screwed. I
>can't kill the krn process, I can't kill the X server or anything running on X
>at the time. The best I can hope for is to reboot, leaving my hard drive
>mounted. This happens not just in X, but console too. The other day I was
>playing cdp (cd audio player) and it went bonkers. I couldn't stop it. The
>music just kept playing. Good thing I liked the band.
>
>This is very frustrating when your root and you have no control. I reboot more
>than windows now. Woopee!

Erm, unless the process is Zombie I can't see how you're not killing it.

Are you just issuing eg kill <pid> ?

If that doesn't work try kill -9 <pid> (or killall -9 process_name if you
want to moida all such processes).

Make sure you get the right pid, running top or ps aux | grep <process_name>
should show up the pids of errant processes.

Never had a problem killing anything when root on various machines, you're
either not doing it right or your machine is up the spout.

JB

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J Bland)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 has 63,000 bugs - Win2k.html [0/1] - Win2k.html [0/1]
Date: 7 Apr 2000 14:55:40 GMT

On Fri, 07 Apr 2000 14:29:44 GMT, Mork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Sun, 26 Mar 2000 18:54:14 GMT, "Michael W. Coulson"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>>That's not entirely correct.  Nothing NEVER crashes. :)  I had Linux
>>crash on me once - but that's with 2 years + constant running.  That's a
>>good track record don't you think. :)  Personally - everything I want to
>>run has a Linux version.  My main machine has not booted another OS in
>>over 2 years.  My other machine runs Windows(all versions) Beos,
>>Freebsd, solaris,etc - only 'cause I like to tinker. :)
>
>
> Wish I could go 2 years, let alone 2 days. I'm writing this in
>windows (forte free agent) because I got tired of rebooting linux
>every time a process hung, which refused being killed in any way.
>
>The differences in peoples mileages is amazing.

I think in such cases it's either down to bad hardware or, perhaps, lack of
experience/understanding from the user (no offense).

I've had linux running on a whole variety of hardware and access to other
people's. If you can't get at least a month or two's uptime out of it without
an unexpected reboot you're doing something very wrong (or kernel hacking or
pulling hardware out the box while it's still on ;).

Heck, even my laptop (running Linux solely) regularly gets uptimes in the
region of weeks before it's shutdown to be carried off somewhere.

Hung processes will nearly always respond to a kill -9 <pid>, if it doesn't
it's usually zombied and you'll find that killing off whatever spawned it
will get rid of it as well.

  3:49pm  up 72 days,  3:21,  3 users,  load average: 0.02, 0.03, 0.00

And that's from a planned reboot (after quite a few months of crash-free
running) on a server running the desktops of up to 7 machines and the odd
hammering when I'm coding/printing huge jobs etc off it (though, obviously
idling atm). My Acorn box had 160days before it was shutdown deliberately,
and that's running quite a flaky version of Linux. Crashes in here happen
very few and far between (and usually when something dodgy is being run as
root). The same can't be said of the Windows boxen, though they don't get
thrashed anywhere near as much and don't crash *that* often.

If your box is that unstable you ought to let us know the spec and what
you're running, there's bound to be a rational explanation for it.

JB

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From: Alex Hauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to add more swap space to an existing system?
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 11:53:01 +0200



Dances With Crows wrote:

> On Thu, 06 Apr 2000 22:10:14 -0400, mike
> <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
> >
> >   I think that I might need more swap space and I don't want to
> >reinstall Redhat 6.1. I have some free space on my hard drive
> >so I was wondering If it was possible to add more swap space
> >to my system.
>
> Use fdisk or cfdisk, and add another "Linux Swap" type partition.  Then
> "mkswap /dev/HDXY"  Simple, eh? You might need to add a line to /etc/fstab
> like so:
>
> /dev/hdXY   none   swap   defaults   0  0
>
> X being the drive letter, Y being the partition number you made using
> fdisk, of course.  Immediately after following these steps, you can
> "swapon /dev/hdXY" to activate the swapspace.  Everything will work
> transparently upon the next reboot.
>
> If you didn't have any non-partitioned disk space and still needed to do
> this, you'd do it like so:
>
> # dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile bs=1024 count=16384     (16384=16M; modify
> for your needs)
> # sync
> # mkswap /swapfile
> # swapon /swapfile
>
> And the /etc/fstab line would have /swapfile in place of /dev/hdXY.  HTH,
> HAND, bonne chance.
>
> --
> Matt G / Dances With Crows              \###| Programmers are playwrights
> There is no Darkness in Eternity         \##| Computers are lousy actors
> But only Light too dim for us to see      \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
> (Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.

mike:
To see, if what you've done works, use
swapon �s
it showes the swap-status.

Hey Dances With Crows, I like your description. Nearly the same problem took me a
whole day of work, about three month ago.
alex.


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From: "T.E.Dickey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: GNOME terminal and color text?
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 15:05:15 GMT

John H. Chauvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I do not want all text to be shown as yellow only selected text. Is this
> possible?

yes (you can modify the terminfo to make bold text showns in a particular
color).


man terminfo
man infocmp
man tic


-- 
Thomas E. Dickey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.clark.net/pub/dickey

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon)
Subject: Iostat
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 16:04:03 GMT

Hi,

I just realised that whilst vmstat is on my linux box, iostat isn't. I
am using an older of Linux (2.0.x). Is it publicly available or is
it on newer versions of Linux? Thanks.

Jon,


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From: Patrick O'Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: damn system clock will not stay "right"
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 09:11:15 -0600

This has only started happening recently, perhaps since
the time change (I am on US Mountain time), but every time
I startup linux, it is off by 6 hours into the future.  I 
did not set up time to be on GMT time, but set it to be 
local time.  I have to either run rdate or manually correct
the time via linuxconf each and every time I restart my
laptop.  

Why would this only suddenly and recently become a problem.
My home PC is not experiencing this problem and it is running
the same linux variant as my laptop.  I use the same settings
as well.  I would like to avoid having to create some time
correction script that would have to be corrected every time
the daylight savings occurs (I don't want to have to deal with
time except as an occassional cronjob to set vs an nist
timeserver).  

Anyone?  I don't know if this is related to the messages others
have mentioned lately but I am PO'd about it since it hasn't 
been a problem at all until just recently.  I make a time 
change (and bios has correct time, by the way) yet linux
will not accept the changes I make between bootups.

patrick

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Subject: Re: Good way to copy my system
From: Minko Markov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 15:07:59 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh) writes:

> That is what tar is designed for. 
> cd /home
> tar -cf - .|(cd /newhome;tar -xpf -)
> 

Excuse me, isn't it

tar cpf - . | ( ...)  ?

Second, shouldn't it be with "--exclude /newhome --exclude /proc"?
Without the first exclude, it will create, eventually,
/newhome/newhome and go on and on recursively.


--
Minko,  UVic

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From: Jim Tom Polk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Trelos win4lin emulator
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 10:14:01 -0500

Just a note for anyone who has been burdened by there being a ''must
have'' (either by the company they work for or as a part of thier work)
Windows application: trelos's win4lin.

I've gotten a copy of this software, and I have been favorably
impressed. Ok, it doesn't have support for scsi scanners or advanced
parallel ports or sound, but in my case, those are not necessary. I just
needed to run three applications (HoTMetaL Pro 6.0, ULead 5.0 and Adobe
Acrobat 4.05) and of course, to see web sites I do in Microsoft's
Internet Explorer.

I'm running Windows 98, Second release.

For these applications, I have full functionality (oh, also Office 97).

The only networking is via TCP/IP where they provide their own winsock.
That seems to be a winner. I've been running it for days at a time in a
production environment, without having to reboot because it  starts
going squirrelly due to system resources getting sucked up. After
running it for a while, my only conclusion, and I might be wrong, is
that Windows networking, including TCP/IP, has some flaws. The trelos
winsock provides a very low level of access (you do not under any
circumstances install Windows Networking) and that seems to cure many of
the problems I have experienced under windows 9X.

The program works by first, as root, installing the Windows installation
files into a directory on your hard drive. Then each user installs in
into a directory they own ($HOME/win). In there is the full Windows
filesystem. You can mount DOS DRIVES (/dev/hda6 and /dev/hda7 in my
case) from partitions or you can mount part of the Linux file system
(for instance ~/myfiles) as drives.

You cannot access commands like label or format or chkdsk (naturally) so
you will still need a partition to hold a ''real'' copy of Window 9x,
and sometimes reboot to do things like defrag and the like, but other
than that, one can basically do away with all the frills.

I have a AMD K62 300 processor with 256MB of memory, and I've allocated
64 MB to Windows (the maximum). I have been happy with the performance.

One of the features is that one does not have to mess with samba or masq
or anything like that to get TCP/IP access to the Internet on a machine
that it is installed on. For full functionality like that, there is
VMWare, but it costs 299.95 (I would use it professionally) and win4lin
costs 49.95 and does handles the applications that I need.

I have been using it for a week, and in a production environment with no
problems, just rolled out a web site with 63 pages for a customer using
my favorite Windows and Linux tools to work with the web site, and able
to see exactly how the site would look to a user of Microsoft's Internet
Explorer.

The situation would be different if I needed to author multimedia for
the web, like Flash.

The biggest thing is that I have discovered that the Windows
applications that I have sometimes blamed for Windows performance are
not the problem, but rather the underlying networking that Windows 98
uses. 
-- 


Jim Tom Polk -:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -:- http://camalott.com/~jtpolk/      
        ''You might as well fall flat on your face as 
          lean over too far backwards.''      --James Thurber--
   "The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three 
          elements: energy, matter and enlightened self-interest." 
                - G'Kar  "Survivors"

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From: Sandhitsu R Das <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Can't mount Win95 FAT32
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 11:18:10 -0400


I have a prehistoric 2.0.31 kernel. The following (forged) session script
describes the problem I have. If anybody wants further information to get
to a solution, please tell me.

# fdisk and then 'p'

Device        Boot    Begin     Start     End      Blocks      Id
System
/dev/hda1     *        1         1        384      3084448+     b   Win95
FAT32
/dev/hda2             385        385      523      1116517+     5
Extended
/dev/hda5             385        385      395      88326       83   Linux
native
/dev/hda6             396        396      478      666666      83   Linux
native
/dev/hda7             479        479      504      208813+     83   Linux
native
/dev/hda8             505        505      511      56196       83   Linux
native
/dev/hda9             512        512      518      56196       83   Linux
native
/dev/hda10            519        519      523      40131       82   Linux
swap

# cat /proc/filesystems

                ext2
                msdos
nodev     proc
                vfat



# lsmod

Module        Pages        Used by
vfat                3                0 (autoclean)

# mount /dev/hda1 /dosc

mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1 or too
many mounted file systems




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From: Patrick O'Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: damn system clock will not stay "right"
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 09:22:08 -0600

After posting I re-read a couple of the off-time postings and
the recommends for correction.  I dicked with hwclock and
finally SEEM to have gotten things right with:

hwclock --set --localtime --date="the correct date-time"

So...unless this problem recurs with the next bootup, I
will assume the situation is corrected.

Patrick O'Neil wrote:
> 
> This has only started happening recently, perhaps since
> the time change (I am on US Mountain time), but every time
> I startup linux, it is off by 6 hours into the future.  I
> did not set up time to be on GMT time, but set it to be
> local time.  I have to either run rdate or manually correct
[...]

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From: Bruno Barberi Gnecco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Voodoo3, X4 and 24 bits
Date: 7 Apr 2000 10:24:28 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

        Have anyone successfully run X4.0 in 24 bits using a Voodoo 3? Here
weird things happen. I need 24 bits for some applications, even if there's no
3D acceleration support.

-- 
Bruno Barberi Gnecco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://www.geocities.com/RodeoDrive/1980/
Quoth the Raven, "Nevermore". - Poe

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Subject: Re: Why linux will never go beyond geekdom
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 7 Apr 2000 16:26:54 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] managed to string together:
>Purely because it sucks the big one, no games ! no word !
>KDE....it stinks....Gnome.....amateur hacks with pretty graphics

You wanna play games get a GameBoy, it's only got about four buttons, 
someone of your caliber maight be able to work out how to use it. 

-- 
Cheers
Steve              email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

%HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee  0 pps. 

web http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~sjlen/

or  http://start.at/zero-pps

  1:38pm  up 3 days, 16:12,  4 users,  load average: 1.27, 1.09, 1.02

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jae Youn Lee)
Subject: netscape command not found
Date: 7 Apr 2000 15:29:05 GMT

We installed netscape, but we seem to have trouble starting the program.  Whenever we 
type netscape or /usr/local/netscape/netscape, it returns command not found.  In 
/usr/local/netscape, there is an executable file called netscape.  What could be 
wrong?  Thanks in advance for any help.

Jae Youn

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From: Tazbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Setting date correctly for my time zone
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 15:32:56 GMT

My linux box (running Debian Slink) is attached to a cable modem and is
acting as a web server, dhcp server and webgate for a couple Win98
boxes on my LAN. The problem I am having is that the clock on my linux
box seems to be quick. Doing a search in some forums, I have come to
the conclusion that I need to use cron to fire off either netdate or
rdate to reset my clock. At least that is what seems to be the best
solution I was able to find. I did some searches on the internet for
some atomic clocks to get the time from, but everything seems to be in
UTC. I am on EST and would like the clock to be set to that.

My questions are, am I on the right track for fixing the problem with
using cron and netdate or rdate to get an accurate time? How do I go
about getting the time to EST? Is there an atomic clock on the east
coast that I can query or do I need to write a script to subtract the 4
hours? Since my linux box is up 24/7, would setting the CMOS clock
using hwclock do me any good (it is my understanding that a reboot is
needed after this is done)? I have seen something about just setting
you clock to UTC and then specifing a time zone on your system, then
when the time on your system is queried it returns the time according
to the time zone you set. Should I look more into this solution?

--
Play hard the body heals!


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Before you buy.

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From: Greg Mizell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.alt.comp.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocac
Subject: Re: how projects within linux commnunity work?
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 10:29:43 -0400

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Dear Ma'am/Sir:
>
> Our group is researching the topic of "How projects within the Linux
> community work".
> It seems to us that every project is done by volunteers throughout the
> world.
> However, there are many questions that remain.
>

I would start by reading "The Cathedral and the Bazaar" by Eric Raymond.
That should answer a great many questions about how open source works. If
you still have questions, feel free to come back here and post them.

http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/

greg




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