Linux-Misc Digest #96, Volume #24 Mon, 10 Apr 00 03:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (Hal Burgiss)
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation ("Charles R. Lyttle")
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (Floyd Davidson)
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation ("Charles R. Lyttle")
mounting fdd in linux
Re: Vim and Vi (Dave Brown)
how to shrink a Linux partition (Yige Zhu)
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (Floyd Davidson)
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation ("Christopher Smith")
Re: Which Sound Card to Get? (David Tupper)
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (Hal Burgiss)
Re: where is install-menu ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation ("Christopher Smith")
kill a zombie process ("Peet Grobler")
Script Question: killing syslogd ("Peet Grobler")
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (Floyd Davidson)
WinTV GO and PAL system (Mohd-Hanafiah Abdullah)
Re: Using an NT Primary Domain Controller for password authentication (Lew Pitcher)
Re: Help moving /var to partition (Lew Pitcher)
Re: kill a zombie process (Andras)
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: mounting fdd in linux (Andras)
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Programming Languages on Linux ("Peet Grobler")
XPDF install on Corel Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 04:11:43 GMT
On Sun, 9 Apr 2000 18:37:41 -0700, btolder <btolder> wrote:
>
>Bringing quality software to the masses at a reasonable price. Bill Gates is
>to software what Henry Ford was to cars.
ROTFLMAO! Where's the punch line? Any color you want, just so it's
black?
--
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Charles R. Lyttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 04:18:32 GMT
Christopher Smith wrote:
>
> "Charles R. Lyttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
,SNIP>
> I sincerely doubt that if MS "sold" Windows for $0 _anywhere_ they wouldn't
> be hit with dumping charges.
>
If they sell it anywhere for $0, they have to sell it everywhere for $0.
For example, if they give it away in Japan, but charge in the US, Japan
will properly charge them with dumping. If you give it to my competitor,
and charge me, I will charge you with unfair trade practices.
> > The problem wasn't that they gave away IE, but that they make getting
> > good prices for the OS contingent on including IE and excluding
> > Netscape.
>
> Proof ? I seem to remember them insisting that the Netscape (or any other)
> icon not be included on the Desktop, but I don't recall anything at all
> about it not being installed.
>
See the trial testimony. Its there.
> > MS could make a case that other OS vendors (Linux, FreeBSD)
> > give away their product, and that the per-unit-cost of Win2000 is so
> > near zero that the difference doesn't matter.
>
> Linux and FreeBSD are not really competing in the same market as Win2k
> (yet). And in the cases where they are, I'd imagine commercial
> distributions are far more common.
>
The OS is free, you just pay for the disks, box, and book. You can also
download them all for free.
> > If I thought there was a
> > snowballs chance in hades of MS adopting such a strategy, I would
> > mortgage the farm and buy more MS stock. But Gates is too much of a
> > control freak to do that.
>
> It'd be about as likely as Apple giving away MacOS.
If they did that, I would by Apple stock instead. It would be even a
better buy than MS.
--
Russ Lyttle, PE
<http://www.flash.net/~lyttlec>
Thank you Melissa!
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From: Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: 09 Apr 2000 19:40:12 -0800
"Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
>> Take off your blinders:
>>
>> C: AT&T
>
>Actually, C was invented by Brian Kerningham and Dennis
>Ritchie. They weren't working at AT&T when they invented it.
Actually, C was invented by Dennis Ritchie with the assistance
of many other people, including Brian Kernighan and Ken
Thompson. Kernighan and Ritchie, as joint authors, wrote the
book which introduced C to the world, "The C Programming
Language", which was published in 1978, copyrighted by "Bell
Telephone Laboritories, Inc.". On the title page under the
authors names, is "Bell Laboratories".
American Telephone and Telegraph (AT&T) owned Bell Labs.
>> C++: ibid
>
>Yes.
>
>> Unix: ibid
>
>No, it was invented by the aforementioned people as a scaled
>down Multics.
Yes. It was invented by the same research group at AT&T's
research division, Bell Labs, but was never a "scaled down
Multics". Ken Thompson was primarily responsible for the
original concept.
See <http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/who/dmr/chist.html> for
Dennis Ritchie's history of C (with as much history of UNIX
as of C).
>> TeX: Donald E Knuth
>
>Another page layout language.
TeX is typesetter software, not a page layout language.
--
Floyd L. Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)
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From: "Charles R. Lyttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 04:22:16 GMT
Paul Lew wrote:
>
> On Mon, 10 Apr 2000 01:37:58 GMT, Pjtg0707 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On Sun, 9 Apr 2000 20:32:50 -0500, Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>Charles R. Lyttle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >
> >>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >------------------------------snipped-----------------------
> >>
> >>Microsoft never excluded netscape. Not even from being installed on the
> >>desktop.
> >>
> >>They required that the IE icon not be removed. Those are two different
> >>things.
> >>
> >
> >This is true. I have Netscape and IE happily coexisting on my Win98 machine.
> >I even have Real Player and Microsoft Media Player happyily coexisting
> >on the same desktop.
> >
> But it took a while for Netscape to find out about the windows "default
> browser" setting as IE would be installed as the "default browser"; forgot
> what it was, but had an app that just started the unused IE even when the
> Netscape was set as the "default browser". So for a time, Netscape was
> excluded....
Now you can get Netscape preinstallec, then you couldn't. Now that
Netscape is dead, Ms has made an offer to the DoJ to un-bundle IE for
the OS, and start charging for it again.
--
Russ Lyttle, PE
<http://www.flash.net/~lyttlec>
Thank you Melissa!
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: mounting fdd in linux
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 04:30:18 GMT
how can i mount fdd in linux
and how can i connected to internet
i mean what setup should i do ?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: Vim and Vi
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 9 Apr 2000 23:36:15 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Paul Kimoto wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Harlan Grove wrote:
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore) wrote:
>> I thought Bill Joy wrote the original vi while he was at
>> Berkeley. So the Regents of the University of California
>> gave the rights to AT&T, or AT&T acquired them due to the
>> terms of the Unix source license granted to UC Berkeley?
>
>Lamb & Robbins 1998, Learning the vi editor, 6th edition, says:
>
>: Bill Joy first built ex, starting with and heavily enhancing the Sixth
>: Edition ed editor. [... then he turned it into vi.]
>--
>Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I thought that when Joy was at Berkeley, he was still employed by AT&T
(i.e., sabbatical), and therefore, his work product would still belong to
AT&T. --rumors derived from the folklore of Unix...
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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Subject: how to shrink a Linux partition
From: Yige Zhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 21:38:24 -0700
I'd like to shrink a Linux partition to install a Minix OS, is
there any tools?
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From: Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: 09 Apr 2000 20:14:02 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pjtg0707) wrote:
>On Mon, 10 Apr 2000 02:23:55 GMT, fungus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Christopher Smith wrote:
>>>
>>> A cheap OS not tied to a particular hardware seller's machine ?
>>
>>
>>So what the hell is Unix?
>>
>>...or UCSD P-system (I've personally ported this one to an Atari ST).
>>
>>...or <fill in blanks here>
>>
>
>As I recall, there were WIndows NT versions that ran on the DEC
>Workstations, and I don't mean Alphas. In fact, there was a version
>of WIndows NT that actually ran on a VAX in its early days.
But what inovation was there in doing something that UNIX had been
doing 20 years before?
--
Floyd L. Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)
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From: "Christopher Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 15:01:58 +1000
"Charles R. Lyttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Christopher Smith wrote:
> >
> > "Charles R. Lyttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> ,SNIP>
> > I sincerely doubt that if MS "sold" Windows for $0 _anywhere_ they
wouldn't
> > be hit with dumping charges.
> >
>
> If they sell it anywhere for $0, they have to sell it everywhere for $0.
Why ? Nearly every other industry allows things like bulk discounts.
> For example, if they give it away in Japan, but charge in the US, Japan
> will properly charge them with dumping. If you give it to my competitor,
> and charge me, I will charge you with unfair trade practices.
I still doubt they'd be able to "sell" it for $0. Even if it was
"everywhere".
> > > The problem wasn't that they gave away IE, but that they make getting
> > > good prices for the OS contingent on including IE and excluding
> > > Netscape.
> >
> > Proof ? I seem to remember them insisting that the Netscape (or any
other)
> > icon not be included on the Desktop, but I don't recall anything at all
> > about it not being installed.
> >
>
> See the trial testimony. Its there.
Does the Findings of Fact count as "trial testimony" ? From them:
"Microsoft's license agreements have never prohibited OEMs from
pre-installing programs, including Navigator, on their PCs and placing icons
and entries for those programs on the Windows desktop and in the "Start"
menu."
> > > MS could make a case that other OS vendors (Linux, FreeBSD)
> > > give away their product, and that the per-unit-cost of Win2000 is so
> > > near zero that the difference doesn't matter.
> >
> > Linux and FreeBSD are not really competing in the same market as Win2k
> > (yet). And in the cases where they are, I'd imagine commercial
> > distributions are far more common.
> >
> The OS is free, you just pay for the disks, box, and book.
Thus it isn't free since it costs money.
> You can also
> download them all for free.
But most don't, that being the point.
Saying "but it's free" when nearly everyone pays for it, is useless.
> > > If I thought there was a
> > > snowballs chance in hades of MS adopting such a strategy, I would
> > > mortgage the farm and buy more MS stock. But Gates is too much of a
> > > control freak to do that.
> >
> > It'd be about as likely as Apple giving away MacOS.
> If they did that, I would by Apple stock instead. It would be even a
> better buy than MS.
But neither of them are likely to do it. At least not without getting into
trouble.
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Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 22:50:24 -0400
From: David Tupper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Which Sound Card to Get?
Just my opinion but the SoundBlaster PCI128 and newer work well and are
supported in the 2.2.x kernels.
Young4ert wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have just upgraded to SuSE-6.4 Distro Linux on my AMD-K6 400MHz
> system. What I would like to do is to add a soundcard on my Linux
> system. Currently, I have a choice to get either the MagicSound 16-Bit
> SoundCard or the SQ1500 Quad PCI SoundCard. I know the later uses the
> Aureal 8810 Chipset and the Aureal only released the compiled Linux
> driver as a module (I wished one day it will release the driver's
> source). I had tried to install such a precompiled driver to my system
> for a Digital Research ThunderSound to no avail under Linux-2.2.14. The
> kernel kept complaining with version error messages.
>
> Speaking about the Aureal driver for Linux, it currently only support
> aureal 8810, 8820, and 8830 chipsets. The question is which chipset has
> more power and features?
>
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> PS> Remove the "4" from e-mail address to respond.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 05:08:28 GMT
On Mon, 10 Apr 2000 15:01:58 +1000, Christopher Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>> >
>> The OS is free, you just pay for the disks, box, and book.
>
>Thus it isn't free since it costs money.
You miss the point entirely.
>> You can also
>> download them all for free.
>
>But most don't, that being the point.
>
>Saying "but it's free" when nearly everyone pays for it, is useless.
Nonsense. People give it away all the time. The local LUG has gotten
many free copies of SuSE, Turbolinux and others. And they give them out
at events too. Anybody who wants a free copy here, can call the LUG.
They still have to pay for the bus ticket though (I mention this before
you do). Go to a trade and give away copies of MS and see who comes
knocking on your door.
--
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: where is install-menu
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 05:03:32 GMT
Patrick O'Neil wrote:
> OK, I downloaded the RPM for XFree86-4.0 for my system but
> when I try to install them, I get a failed dependency for
> /usr/bin/install-menu. Doing an rpmfind for install-menu
> turns up nothing. Where does install-menu come from?
You'll find it in menu-2.1.5-6mdk, also from the Cooker.
Not obvious, I had to ask too. :-)
Cheers,
- Leo
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From: "Christopher Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 15:27:22 +1000
"Hal Burgiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Mon, 10 Apr 2000 15:01:58 +1000, Christopher Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> The OS is free, you just pay for the disks, box, and book.
> >
> >Thus it isn't free since it costs money.
>
> You miss the point entirely.
No, I don't. *You* do.
I'm well aware of all the different levels of "freeness" the Linux crowd
like to talk about.
> >> You can also
> >> download them all for free.
> >
> >But most don't, that being the point.
> >
> >Saying "but it's free" when nearly everyone pays for it, is useless.
>
> Nonsense. People give it away all the time. The local LUG has gotten
> many free copies of SuSE, Turbolinux and others. And they give them out
> at events too. Anybody who wants a free copy here, can call the LUG.
> They still have to pay for the bus ticket though (I mention this before
> you do). Go to a trade and give away copies of MS and see who comes
> knocking on your door.
I'm sure, but we're talking about commercial entities, as I understand it,
and most of them will be purchasing Linux from a commercial vendor, along
with (hopefully) some support.
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From: "Peet Grobler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: kill a zombie process
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 08:07:20 +0200
How would you go about killing a zombie process?
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From: "Peet Grobler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Script Question: killing syslogd
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 08:11:40 +0200
I've got a script that moves /var/log/secure to another file. I (guess) then
I need to kill syslogd, and re-start it.
1) Is that really necessary? I've noticed that once I've moved the file
(using "mv"), even if I touch the file (to re-create an empty one), it still
doesn't write to the file. Is there any other way to get syslogd to start
logging?
2) How do I do that? What would the line that kills the process look like?
I've noticed the file /var/???/syslodg.pid (can't remember the name offhand)
contains the pid, e.g. "3315" in the file. How do you do this?
3) Last question (interesting one) : Let's say /var/log/secure is about 2MB.
I'm doing the command (via script) "mv /var/log/secure /var/log/secure.old".
Now, someone logs on incorrectly. Will this be logged to this file? Or will
I lose that record ?
Thanks,
Peet.
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From: Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: 09 Apr 2000 21:30:18 -0800
"Christopher Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"fungus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>
>>
>> Christopher Smith wrote:
>> >
>> > A cheap OS not tied to a particular hardware seller's machine ?
>>
>>
>> So what the hell is Unix?
>
>*Cheap* ?
Inexpensive... as in *free*.
--
Floyd L. Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mohd-Hanafiah Abdullah)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: WinTV GO and PAL system
Date: 10 Apr 2000 14:24:37 +0800
Hi:
Does the WinTV GO (model 190) by Hauppauge work with the PAL system beside
NTSC. Thanks.
Napi
MALAYSIA
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From: Lew Pitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Using an NT Primary Domain Controller for password authentication
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 06:28:47 GMT
Ste Carlson wrote:
>
> Is there any way to use an NT Primary Domain Controller for password
> authentication?
Yes.
In your smb.conf file, set
security = server
password server = PDC_NAME_GOES_HERE
Of course, substitute the name of your PDC for "PDC_NAME_GOES_HERE"
--
Lew Pitcher
Master Codewright and JOAT-in-training
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From: Lew Pitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help moving /var to partition
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 06:28:50 GMT
John Jacques wrote:
>
> Hello, I want to move /var to it's own partition. I have many empty
> partitions. How would I do this without a full re-install? I've tried
> moving directories to partitions and then making soft links to them and
> it doesn't work. Also, I've tried a hard link, but, it says the command
> is not supported. When I do a "ls -l /" my /usr, /root, /home, and / all
> show up as if they were regular directories, but, they are each on their
> own partitions.
>
> Slakware 7.0 2.2.13 full install.
Here's how...
For the purpose of illustration with proper commands, assume that your
empty partition is /dev/hda2
1) mkdir /mnt/temp_var
2) mkfs -t ext2 /dev/hda2
2) mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/temp_var
3) (cd /var && tar cf - . ) | (cd /mnt/temp_var && tar xvfp -)
4) umount /mnt/temp_var
5) cd / ; rm -rf /var ; mkdir /var
6) mount /dev/hda2 /var
--
Lew Pitcher
Master Codewright and JOAT-in-training
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From: Andras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kill a zombie process
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 06:43:40 +0000
Peet Grobler wrote:
>
> How would you go about killing a zombie process?
No way.
A zombie is dead already. It is just waiting for the parent to return a
value.
However this does not mean that there's nothing you can do about
removing it from the list of processes.
The only problem is I don't know how do it.
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 01:54:12 -0500
Paul Lew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >This is true. I have Netscape and IE happily coexisting on my Win98
machine.
> >I even have Real Player and Microsoft Media Player happyily coexisting
> >on the same desktop.
> >
> But it took a while for Netscape to find out about the windows "default
> browser" setting as IE would be installed as the "default browser"; forgot
> what it was, but had an app that just started the unused IE even when the
> Netscape was set as the "default browser". So for a time, Netscape was
> excluded....
Actually, Netscape did this first. There are HTML file types that are
assigned to a browser. Netscape just naturally set them to itself without
even prompting the user every time it was run. Microsoft and Netscape
agreed to prompt the user before doing it first.
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From: Andras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mounting fdd in linux
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 06:49:09 +0000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> how can i mount fdd in linux
Add the following line to /etc/fstab (as root of course)
/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy msdos noauto,user 0 0
then issue
mount /mnt/floppy
now you can access your floppy under /mnt/floppy
don't forget to umount (umount /mnt/floppy) before removing it,
you will easily get dataloss otherwise.
However I suggest using the m-tools, such as mdir, mcopy,...
to access the fdd, since they don't require mounting of the floppy, so
you cannot forget to umount it.
> and how can i connected to internet
read the NET3, and ppp HOWTOs they should be on your computer somewhere
near /usr/doc/HOWTO (depending on distribution) and can also be found
in www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 01:55:43 -0500
Charles R. Lyttle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > But it took a while for Netscape to find out about the windows "default
> > browser" setting as IE would be installed as the "default browser";
forgot
> > what it was, but had an app that just started the unused IE even when
the
> > Netscape was set as the "default browser". So for a time, Netscape was
> > excluded....
> Now you can get Netscape preinstallec, then you couldn't. Now that
> Netscape is dead, Ms has made an offer to the DoJ to un-bundle IE for
> the OS, and start charging for it again.
I got Netscape pre-installed on my Toshiba Laptops in 1996, 1997 and 1998.
It was right there on the desktop. This was before the lawsuit.
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From: "Peet Grobler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Programming Languages on Linux
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 08:58:59 +0200
What programming languages are there on linux? I know about C++, Fortran and
Pascal. But anything else? Anything that's "own" to Linux?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: XPDF install on Corel Linux
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 06:48:28 GMT
I've just put in Corel Linux from an evaluation CD and am trying to
install XPDF from my Redhat Ver 5.0 CD distribution. rpm seems to run on
it OK. I've also got the xpdf distribution on my Redhat tools CD.
When I checked using rpm, I detected missing library files required on
my Corel installation. I assume xpdf requires X windows libraries
installed first and with only KDE on my Linux version, does it mean I
have to install Xfree first ? Anyone struck similar problems putting up
xpdf on Corel Linux ?
K Fahm
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