Linux-Misc Digest #96, Volume #27 Mon, 12 Feb 01 18:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: how to set time (what shell command)? (Seth Gordon)
LILO: Two versions of RH. Two different hardrives. How? (Lyndon Bartels)
Re: Mail for dummies. (Jan Schaumann)
Re: BIND vs MS DNS (Michael Heiming)
Re: 2.2.17 kernel and usb (Sinner from the Prairy)
soundcard under debian! (Nicolas Bouche)
Re: pop3 issues (Fred)
Re: netscape lock file ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: via ac97 sound drivers for linux (Byron A Jeff)
Re: O'Reilly: SSH book published (Dustin Puryear)
Process Oriority Settings Adjustments. ("Richard")
pcmcia cdrom problem on installation (Franck)
Kernel 2.4.1 compilation fails with parse error (Oliver Battenfeld)
Toshiba T2000SX ("Darragh � Riord�n")
Re: Process Oriority Settings Adjustments. ("Arthur H. Gold")
What is the command to rebuild KDE's Menus? (Jayfar)
pcAnywhere throught firewall with NAT. (JF Bertrand)
Re: Linux Sucks... well not really (Oliver Battenfeld)
Re: user satisfaction with Linux OS ("Steve Wolfe")
Re: trouble ppp 2.3.11 & Kernel 2.2.16 (Bill Unruh)
netscape locks me up (john connolly)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Tips from Compaq/Linux users? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Seth Gordon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to set time (what shell command)?
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:20:45 GMT
On Sat, 10 Feb 2001 14:45:01 -0800, Noah Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jeff Davis wrote:
>
> > This is a very simple question I am sure, but I need to know how to set
> > the time on my Debian system without a graphical utility.
>
> date -s ......
> then
> clock -w
> to make it stick
>
> the first command can be replaced with some other means like network
> time.....the second writes to cmos.
Also, study the hwclock man page -- particularly the part about /etc/adjtime.
When I first installed Linux on one of my machines, I told it to set the hardware
clock to local time. Then, when Daylight Savings Time ended, I set the clock back
an hour. Unfortunately, the utilities that did this (both from the command line
and through linuxconf) "assumed" that I was resetting the clock because it was
running too fast, and so they obligingly slowed down the system clock
to compensate. Then I spent ... I don't want to think about how many days ...
trying to figure out why, no matter how many times or how many ways I reset the
clock, it would get out of kilter when I rebooted.
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From: Lyndon Bartels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: LILO: Two versions of RH. Two different hardrives. How?
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:29:44 GMT
Hello,
I want to be able to dual-boot my linux box.. but with a twist.
I want to run it with two versions of RedHat.
Originally, I started out with RH v7.0. I installed LILO in the MBR of
the first disk. (I had 3 SCSI hard drives.)
Next, I added a 4th drive, partitioned it the way I wanted, and
installed RH 7.1 Beta on those partitions. I'm re-using /tmp, /home, and
the swap partitions.
What I Didn't do, was to change any of the original LILO configurations.
I didn't want to accidentally change any of the 7.0 boot configurations.
Next, I want to alter the v7.0 lilo.conf so that I can boot to 7.0 by
default, or boot to 7.1 by choice.
v7.0's '/' partition is /dev/sda1. (I have no /boot partition)
v7.1's '/' partition is /dev/sdd1.
I made the '/' partitions identical in size, etc.
My current lilo.conf is as follows:
boot=/dev/sda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
prompt
timeout=50
message=/boot/message
linear
default=linux
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.16-22
label=linux
initrd=/boot/initrd-2.2.16-22,img
read-only
root=/dev/sda1
So far I'm thinking of adding:
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.-0-.99.11
label=fisher
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
read-only
root=/dev/sdd1
I got "initrd.img" from the boot floppy I created during the 7.1
install. But should I make another one? etc.?
Thanks in advance,
Lyndon
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan Schaumann)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking, comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: Mail for dummies.
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:47:44 GMT
* Thaddeus L Olczyk wrote:
> Two things:
Both are mail-related quiestions and are not linux-related, you're better off
asking in comp.mail.misc, where I xposted and fup2'd it to.
> 1) I would like to change the way I handle email, but
> I have a ton of email in a proprietary email client
> ( Forte' Agent ) that I do not believe I can convert.
> I have one idea of a way of converting, forward the
> mail to myself. The problem is that then the email
> becomes useless because it does not "display" the
> original headers ( they probably appear in the message
> but not in the From, and Subject when I browse my email ).
> Is there someway I can read them and strip the "wrapping"
> headers?
> 2) I am generally not that familiar with email ( I know the basics,
> there are protocols pop3, smtp etc. but that's about it ). Is
> there some link that describes the components of an email system
> (MTA, MDA etc. ) well enough for a guy like me to figure it out
> well enough to setupmy own one/two person system?
-Jan
--
Jan Schaumann <http://www.netmeister.org>
Weekends don't count unless you spend them doing something completely
pointless. -- Calvin
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From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: BIND vs MS DNS
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 18:54:45 +0100
Leigh wrote:
> I am investigating replacing MS DNS at a customer's site with BIND on Redhat
> and have discovered a benefit that I wasn't realliy expecting - that is the
> BIND box massively outperforms the MS DNS on DNS lookups.
>
> Without the obvious MS slagging, does anyone have any hard evidence to
> explain and prove that this is the case. The customer is open to suggestions
> about changing OS but I need to back this up with solid evidence.
>
> Thanks
>
> Leigh
Hello,
may have several reasons, from my general expirience, Linux seems to outperfom
every other OS (maybe not some kind of BSD, I have no expirience with it and
don't want to start a flame war here).
The Linux TCP/IP stack is better/faster.
The OS needs no GUI, which saves some RAM and is another thing like: If it's
not running, it can't break...
The ability of the Linux VM, to use your RAM efficiently, not just fill it up
with some animated paper clips....
Honestly, from using Linux since years (starting with the first SUSE distro
available (4.2)), I observed
that MS <put_in_what_you_like> is just a toy, luling you in some kind of
knowledge, not even worth to be named Operating System.
You can watch the progress in the Linux OS, which gets better and better...:-)
AFAIK the 386, the first Intel 32bit CPU was sold in 1985, it took Microsoft
ten years to deliver
something (WIN 95) that could use it (halfway).
Nuff said
Michael Heiming
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From: Sinner from the Prairy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2.2.17 kernel and usb
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:09:06 -0500
Alan Needleman wrote:
> I have a RH 6.x system and I'd like to add USB support. I found the
> kernel-2.2.17-14 rpm on rpmfind and that seems to work even though on
> installation it complains about a missing cpia_usb.o module. However,
> there is no kernel-header rpm which is needed for VMware to be installed
> on the new kernel. I'd appreciate it if someone could point me to where
> I can find an appropriate header rpm (and also the missing module) and
> to any HOWTO on using USB ZIP drives.
> Thanks much.
> Alan
I strongly recommend you the 2.2.18 kernel.
It includes the 2.4.x usb-compatibility backported to the 2.2.x series.
Salut,
Sinner
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:16:03 -0500
From: Nicolas Bouche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Nicolas Bouche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: soundcard under debian!
Hey,
I have a sounbcard -creative ensoniq PCI32- with the chip 1371. I am
running debian (no 'cause i like it, but because i have to) 2.2.17.
I was able to configure the kernel and i can listen to any mp3, or radios!
(with realplayer for instance). However, i can't record anything?!?
The mic is plugged in and has been tested!
Here is the output of cat /dev/nsdstat:
OSS/Free:3.8s2++-971130
Load type: Driver compiled into kernel
Kernel: Linux smurf 2.2.17 #8 Wed Jan 31 14:21:37 EST 2001 i686
Config options: 0
Installed drivers:
Type 26: MPU-401 (UART)
Type 2: Sound Blaster
Type 29: Sound Blaster PnP
Type 7: SB MPU-401
Card config:
(Sound Blaster at 0x220 irq 7 drq 1,5)
(SB MPU-401 at 0x330 irq 1 drq 0)
Audio devices:
Synth devices:
Midi devices:
Timers:
0: System clock
Mixers:
================================
Any clue?
Is it a hardware problem or software?
Thanks
NB
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From: Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: pop3 issues
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 18:30:04 -0000
By the nature of POP3 servers, any message >1mgb (sum of msg + attached)
tends to time out. If you have a slow connection the the total size is
reduced.
jbuchana wrote:
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > there is anything in my spool with an attachment over 100k, my mail
> > client(outlook) just hangs there saying it's downloading the message. I
>
> Just for testing, maybe you could try to pop these messages using
> Netscape, Eudora, or maybe fetchmail on a Linux machine.
>
> If that works, I'd ask on a Windows group, if the other pop clients
> all fail too, I'd post more details here. Perhaps there are some log
> file messages, maybe in /var/log/syslog?
>
>
> --
> Jim Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> =================== http://www.buchanan1.net/ ==========================
> "I don't think Microsoft is evil in itself; I just think that they make
> really crappy operating systems." -Linus Torvalds
> ================= Visit: http://www.thehungersite.com ==================
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: netscape lock file
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:55:30 +0000
James Silverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> Well, I just got the "Lock file" message while signing on to send this
> message. I admit I did it intentionally. It probably would not occur
> with two separate users.
It wouldn't. The lock file is saved as ~/.netscape/lock
So no clashes between separate users.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Byron A Jeff)
Subject: Re: via ac97 sound drivers for linux
Date: 12 Feb 2001 13:39:54 -0500
In article <960od3$qve$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Tom Badran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>www.alsa-project.org
ALSA does work. Just a couple of caveats to add.
1) I can't get DSP to operate any faster than 11025 Hz. It sounds OK but I'd
be interested in seeing how to get higher quality audio.
2) If you wish not to be driven crazy, install the oss compatibility modules
for dsp and mixer. Then you can use all the standard apps and mixers instead
of the ALSA specific ones.
3) IMPORTANT!!! ALSA mutes all channels by default. It drives those who are
unaware nuts. Make sure you bring up a mixer and unmute the channels before
troubleshooting anything else.
I'm listening to my MP3 jukebox through a ac97 soundcard driven by ALSA as
we speak. Works well once you get it installed.
BAJ
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dustin Puryear)
Crossposted-To: comp.security.ssh
Subject: Re: O'Reilly: SSH book published
Date: 12 Feb 2001 19:22:58 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Richard E. Silverman" wrote:
>
> >>>>> "Dustin" == Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Dustin> I don't normally do this, but..
> Dustin> Product announcements are WAY off-topic in comp.os.linux.misc.
>
> Announcing the release of a technical book on a piece of software shipped
> with most Linux distributions seems relevant enough to me. Thanks for
> your opinion, though. To date, you are the only person who has expressed
> this to us.
So it would be all right for O'Reilly, Prima, SAMS, and others to post new
releases to comp.os.linux.misc? I don't think so. Take it to
comp.os.linux.announce, not comp.os.linux.misc. Now, if your book is free
and available on the web that is another matter.
Regards, Dustin
--
Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Integrate Linux Solutions into Your Windows Network
- http://www.prima-tech.com/integrate-linux
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From: "Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Process Oriority Settings Adjustments.
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:59:58 -0600
Some operating systems allow you to adjust priorities and the amount of CPU
time each process is given. A good example of this ability is with the IBM
AS/400. How do you make these adjustments in Linux. For instance, if I
want to run a batch process, which updates customer balances, how can I make
this process consume 50-75% of CPU time, while other processes run at 5-25%
of CPU time?
Thanks
Richard
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From: Franck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: pcmcia cdrom problem on installation
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 21:10:03 +0100
Hi
I try to install red Hat 7 on a compaq armada 4220T laptop, but I just
have a pcmcia cdrom for it.
So I create the floppy disk with the pcmcia.img file on the cd.
But when I boot from this diskette, I just have the choice for hard
drive installation and not cdrom installation:(
the pc card-pcmcia work well ( the beep are ok ) but apparently the
system think there's a hard drive in the pcmcia box and not a cdrom.
how to do this cdrom drive recognize by the system ?
Thanks
Franck
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From: Oliver Battenfeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kernel 2.4.1 compilation fails with parse error
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 21:37:15 +0100
Hi there,
I just tried to compile a 2.4.1 kernel on a freshly installed Debian
woody system. However, at some time during the compilation process gcc
2.95.3-4 stops with the following error message:
<yaddayaddayadda>
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.1/include -Wall
-Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe
-mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -march=i686 -malign-functions=4 -c -o
init/main.o init/main.c
In file included from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/wait.h:13,
from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/fs.h:12,
from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/capability.h:17,
from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/binfmts.h:5,
from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h:9,
from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/mm.h:4,
from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/slab.h:14,
from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/malloc.h:4,
from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/prof_fs.h:5
from init/main.c:15:
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/kernel.h:131: parse error
</yaddayaddayadda>
Any hints ?
I noticed, that the kernel docs recommend using gcc 2.91 - could this
cause the trouble ? If so, why do the Debian archives only offer 2.95
and 2.72 ?
--
Ciao,
Oliver
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From: "Darragh � Riord�n" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Toshiba T2000SX
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 20:43:12 -0000
Hi,
I recently got my hands on a Toshiba T2000SX. Its pretty old, around 1990-91
from what I can see. From the information I got from msd it has 2mb RAM,
40mb HD and I dont have a clue about processor. I'm guessing its at least
i386 becuase it is running DOS and Windows 3.1.
My problem is I want to get a good TCP/IP enabled OS on it. I've tried the
mini-linux distro's but the 2mb RAM constraint is really killing that idea.
I was thinking of trying minix itself becuase the hardware requirments are
less than what this has and it seems ideal. I Thought I would ask before I
went and used a 13 year old OS though, there might be something better out
there? All I want from the OS I install on the machine is some sort of
serial/modem support, TCP/IP stack and a Dialler for ppp with PAP. Programs
would be basic filesystem such as Copy, Move, Rename or something nothing
too bad. IRC, Telnet and maybe a lynx derivative but the browser is NOT
important. All I really, really want is IRC and be able to use my MUD
accounts (eg telnet VT100)
**No GUI is nessicary (sorry about spelling) at all.**
Regards,
Darragh.
ps. A unix clone would be *ideal* becuase I kinda know how to use it
already;)
--
=] Fuzzyminds is a good thing! [=
http://www.fuzzyminds.com
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:05:35 -0600
From: "Arthur H. Gold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Process Oriority Settings Adjustments.
Richard wrote:
>
> Some operating systems allow you to adjust priorities and the amount of CPU
> time each process is given. A good example of this ability is with the IBM
> AS/400. How do you make these adjustments in Linux. For instance, if I
> want to run a batch process, which updates customer balances, how can I make
> this process consume 50-75% of CPU time, while other processes run at 5-25%
> of CPU time?
>
> Thanks
> Richard
`info nice'
HTH,
--ag
--
Artie Gold, Austin, TX (finger the cs.utexas.edu account
for more info)
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
A: Yes I would. But not enough to put it out.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jayfar)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: What is the command to rebuild KDE's Menus?
Date: 12 Feb 2001 21:42:27 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I had done it once before, after updating KDE to 2.0, but I neglected to
make a note of the command. I'm looking for the console command to
rebuild KDE's menus.
Jayfar
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From: JF Bertrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: pcAnywhere throught firewall with NAT.
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:18:12 -0600
Hey,
I'm trying to PC anywhere to the outside world from a machine inside of
a firewall using NAT.
Here is what I have so far ( taking into account that the default port
for pcAnywhere are 5631 tcp and 5632 udp)
My firewall has all the high ports closed so when it didn't work I added
those rules:
ipchains -A input -p tcp -d 0/0 5631 -i eth1 -j ACCEPT
ipchains -A input -p udp -d 0/0 5632 -i eth1 -j ACCEPT
Then I realized that the initial request is made with udp so I was
thinking perfect job for ipmasqadm portfw, so here it goes:
ipmasqadm autofw -A -v -u -r udp 5632 5632 -c tcp 5631
I have also added
ipmasqadm autofw -A -v -u -r tcp 5631 5631 -c tcp 5632 (to no avail)
>From what I understand, this will add an entry in the NAT translation
table to establish the communication between the 2 PC (when udp 5632 is
requested, 5631 tcp is created as well). I have tried to look at the
ports that are requested by seting up the MASQ rule with logging but, I
don't see the entries that would be added by autofw.
I am at lost here, please help.
Thanks.
P.S. I'm running a 2.2.16-22 kernel on a redhat 7.0 machine.
Thanks
JF Bertrand ( [EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Oliver Battenfeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Sucks... well not really
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 23:11:29 +0100
> mozilla is just big and slow... when it shoudl be small and fast...
Yeah, they�re gonna learn it the hard way :-)
> so i find myself with asking why is our OS
> handicapped when it comes to browsers...
Got KDE installed ? Konqueror is an excellent alternative.
And btw, Opera is out now for Linux and this thing is definitely on par
with the fat babes. Only disturbing thing is (for some at least), it�s
not open source.
--
Ciao,
Oliver
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From: "Steve Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: user satisfaction with Linux OS
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:07:48 -0700
> Your
> help is critical to the completion of my degree.
Really? Then fork out a hundred bucks, we'll fill out your form.
steve
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: comp.protocols.ppp,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: trouble ppp 2.3.11 & Kernel 2.2.16
Date: 12 Feb 2001 22:19:44 GMT
In <kjKh6.530$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Rao Garimella"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>I hope this is an appropriate place to post this message. If not please
>indicate where it would be appropriate to post it.
>I am having problems using pppd (ppp 2.3.11 [and ppp 2.4.0]) with linux
>kernel 2.2.16 (both from the slackware 7.1 distribution.).
>When I try to fire up a ppp connection (using the script ppp-go generated by
>the pppsetup program), pppd dies and the file /var/log/syslog has a message
>from the "chat" program saying that "Can't get terminal parameters -
>Input/output error".
ppp itself can leave the terminal in a rather uncommunicative state.
Usually ppp can reset it, but you might want to try the perl script
(vbased on one by Carlson) in
www.theory.physics.ubc.ca/modem-chk.html
which includes one to reset the serial port if some program has left it
in a weird state. YOu might try that to see if it helps.
>I tried to do it manually using minicom and manual starting of pppd. I
>started minicom and dialed into my ISP which initialized PPP. Then I quit
>_without_ resetting minicom and started pppd with the command "pppd -detach
>/dev/ttyS0 38400 &". I get the following error:
This command is a bit weird. Yo utell it not to detach from its terminal
and then you put it into the background (ie, telling it to detach
itself.) Also, you do NOT want the speed there since minicom has already
set the speed.
>ioctl(SIOCSIFMTU): No such device 19
>tcflush failed: Input/Output error
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From: john connolly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: netscape locks me up
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 22:32:53 GMT
Occasionally, when using netscape 4.7x on a slackware7.0 (xfree 3.6xx)
system and kde2.?? my cpu (celeron 400) usage goes up to nearly 100% and
stays there and the only way to recover is to kill netscape. This has
happened any number of times in navigator when visiting web sites and
once in a while in communicator using the local road runner news server.
Any ideas about this?
Thanks, JWC
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:38:52 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Only partially true. People seem to forget that Linux (while great) is
> only a small piece of the picture. Most of "Linux" is really GNU which
> has been around for quite awhile, I won't pretent to remember the exact
> date but that was the brain child of RMS.
>
True...but most of GNU has no purpose without a Linux-like kernal...
> Carson
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> jtnews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Who cares about politics or government?
> > As far as I'm concerned most of the world
> > governments impose high taxes and do much
> > more than they should do "for the people".
> > Everything except law enforcement and the military
> > should be privatized and out of government
> > hands. Then maybe things will get better.
> >
> > Science and technology really doesn't "belong"
> > to one country or another, to suggest otherwise
> > is rather silly. The perceived inequities
> > of today can be really fleeting. All it takes
> > is a few key employees to move from one country
> > to another and to setup a corporation and, bang,
> > the balance of power has changed.
> >
> > Steve Withers wrote:
> > >
> > > G'day
> > >
> > > I've been following developments closely on this.
> > >
> > > It appears that sometime this year all new Microsot software will need
> > > to be registered....or it will cease to function.
> > >
> > > This may offer OS alternatives like Linux a huge toe in the desktop
> > > door. With more and more homes being networked and having multiple PCs,
> > > how many home and small business users are going to be forced to pay up
> > > and stop using the "One CD fits all" approach they use today?
> > >
> > > In my own case.....I would have to upgrade 7 home PCs every year for
> > > both Windows and MS Office.....to the tune of lots of dosh per annum. As
> > > it is, I now have 3 of those systems on Linux...and quite happily.
> > >
> > > But some of my family members are reluctant to give up Windows. I may
> > > have to suggest to them that they pay for it in future....as I will only
> > > be paying for Linux software from 2001 onward.
> > >
> > > It is intersting that the US produced Windows......the country with
> > > one-party (two faction) politics has also given us no choice on the
> > > desktop. While politically diverse Europe with multi-party, proportional
> > > systems as the politcal norm, has given us Open Software and Linux....
> > >
> > > Sort of the illusion of freedom (US politics) vs the reality of freedom
> > > (European politics - outside Britain).
> > >
> > > There is an underlying cultural thing operating here somewhere...... :-)
> > >
> > > Steve
> >
>
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> Carson R. Wilcox
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H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux.suse
Subject: Re: Tips from Compaq/Linux users?
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 23:06:22 GMT
I installed RH 6.2 on my 4122. Only problems I had were drivers for
some after-purchase add on devices.
On Tue, 9 Jan 2001 20:39:28 -0500, net name
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Just got done reading a rather lengthy thread on the troubles people
>have using other than OEM os's with compaqs. I know compaq is a junk
>machine, especially the presarios, but I am stuck with mine for now.
>
>Has anyone successfully used linux on a presario 1610? If so,
>what flavor of linux was it? Any tips on the install? For someone on
>a budget with one of these presario dinosaurs, a slow hard drive and
>only 16MB ram, what version of linux would you suggest. Or, should
>I just forget about it and stick with that other piece of crap, windoze?
>
>Thanks.
>
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