Linux-Misc Digest #98, Volume #24 Mon, 10 Apr 00 06:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Linux router with 2xPCMCIA on laptop - possible? (Svein Tjonndal)
Re: Script Question: killing syslogd ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Script Question: killing syslogd ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: TV on Linux (Bjorn Beheydt)
Re: New to Linux, LILO installed need dual boot (Thomas Hommel)
Re: saving newgroup (james)
[Q] Self-memory modem and fax (JF Bosc)
Re: Script Question: killing syslogd ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: damn system clock will not stay "right" (Villy Kruse)
Re: acrobat for linux (ps -> pdf) (Tim Piessens)
Root over NFS Problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation ("Chad Myers")
Some Linux questions (Son Phan)
which flavour for a 486 ("Dafydd Prichard")
Re: TV on Linux (Andras)
Re: Some Linux questions (Andras)
Re: which flavour for a 486 ("Peet Grobler")
[Q] Decrypt (JF Bosc)
How to talk to the parallel port (Mohd-Hanafiah Abdullah)
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (Paul Black)
Re: uninstalling stuff (Peter Moore)
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From: Svein Tjonndal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: Linux router with 2xPCMCIA on laptop - possible?
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 08:13:05 +0000
Francois Labreque wrote:
> 1 - Laptops have a tendency to grow legs and run away. Not very helpful
> if the owner leaves on a trip/weekend or the laptop gets stolen.
>
:-) This won't be a problem in our case - my colleague would used the
laptop
for teaching her courses (which is why we wanted as physically small a
router
as possible). When I get the time I might try to set one up, but for now
I think
we'll have to try to find another solution.
Thanks,
--
Svein Tjonndal
Educational Consultant, Advanced Technical Program
Business Objects University
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
telephone: (33) 1 41 25 37 18
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Script Question: killing syslogd
Date: 10 Apr 2000 08:04:08 GMT
Peet Grobler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I've got a script that moves /var/log/secure to another file. I (guess) then
: I need to kill syslogd, and re-start it.
: 1) Is that really necessary? I've noticed that once I've moved the file
Yes. killall -1 syslogd.
: (using "mv"), even if I touch the file (to re-create an empty one), it still
: doesn't write to the file. Is there any other way to get syslogd to start
: logging?
It IS logging. To the old file. Have a look!
: 2) How do I do that? What would the line that kills the process look like?
As above.
: 3) Last question (interesting one) : Let's say /var/log/secure is about 2MB.
: I'm doing the command (via script) "mv /var/log/secure /var/log/secure.old".
: Now, someone logs on incorrectly. Will this be logged to this file? Or will
See above.
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Script Question: killing syslogd
Date: 10 Apr 2000 08:07:02 GMT
Thomas Hommel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: If you move a logfile to another position and don't restart syslogd, it
: will still have the old file pointer open and log to a file that doesn't
: exist anymore. So your disk space will go down, but you cannot access
The file (i.e. the inode) both exists and is accessible from the directory
structure. He said "mv", not "rm".
Peter
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From: Bjorn Beheydt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: TV on Linux
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 08:16:53 GMT
Chus wrote:
>
> Hi, i'm trying to watch TV on Linux, but i'm having problems with it. I
> install the TV software, but when i try to execute it, it says that it
> can't find /dev/video. I've checked for the video device, and it's Ok. What
> is the problem?. How can i check the video device?. I'm completely lost, so
> any help would be great for me.
Did you compile a new kernel with the correct drivers in it?
--
==============================================================================
Bjorn Beheydt
New and Improved Homepage: http://www.linuxfreak.com/~borniet
Linux: because it separates the boys from the men.
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From: Thomas Hommel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New to Linux, LILO installed need dual boot
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:11:29 +0200
Hi there,
the better way would have been to install Win98 first, because it will
not matter if there�s another OS previously installed.
So you have to take care of a few things:
- Win98 always only installs on a primary partition, the one that�s
marked active. So be sure not to have your linux partition marked
active.
- Win98 overwrites the MBR without asking you. You will not be able to
boot into Linux after installing Windoze. Create a Linux bootdisk with
the setup tool and test it first.
- The Win98 partition should be in the first 8 gigs of harddrive,
otherwise you won�t be able to boot it (Same is true for the Linux /boot
partition).
- To make your machine dual bootable, do the following:
1. Install Win98 :-(
2. Boot into Linux with your bootdisk
3. Edit /etc/lilo.conf and add line like the following:
other="/dev/hdax" #where hdax is your Win98 partition
label=win98
4. Run "lilo"
5. Reboot
You should now be able to select the OS of your choice. Pressing <TAB>
at the "lilo boot:" prompt should give a list of possible choices.
Good luck
Tom
Nicholas schrieb:
>
> I'm new to linux. I just installed slackware 7.0 on my computer and it
> works fine. However, I also need to run windows 98 on my machine. I have
> the partitions already set up but I haven't done the install. I was
> wondering if there is anything besides putting the CD in and starting the
> install that I should do to make sure that win98 goes to the correct
> partition.
>
> Second I also need help with liloconfig. I had problems when I started with
> the install of linux so I didn't tell the machine to dual boot. So I know I
> need to edit liloconfig so that it knows that my machine is a dual boot
> machine.
>
> Could someone really walk me through it?
>
> Thanks
>
> -Nicholas
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
--
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Thomas Hommel
Beam Enterprise GmbH
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From: james <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: saving newgroup
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:01:18 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
james wrote:
> james wrote:
>
> > Go to "preference"
> > "Offline"
>
> Forgot "dowmload"
>
> >
> > "select"
> > And then you can ask for downloading messages.... I guess
To download all the messages,
"File"
"Offline"
"Synchronize"
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From: JF Bosc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Q] Self-memory modem and fax
Date: 10 Apr 2000 10:25:35 +0200
Hello,
I'm using Linux (SuSE 6.3), and I have a self-memory modem which can receive
fax while the machine is off. I'd like to know if there's a way to get fax
messages from the modem memory afterwards. I didn't find anything in the
mgetty documentation.
Thanks,
JF Bosc
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Script Question: killing syslogd
Date: 10 Apr 2000 08:31:15 GMT
Peet Grobler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: How would I avoid records being written to "nirvana" while moving the file?
They don't get written to nirvana. THomas has made a mistake. They
get written to the old/new file (which is always the same inode on
disk). There is no hiatus.
: Is there some other way of doing this without losing any information?
Nearly any way you do it loses no information.
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: damn system clock will not stay "right"
Date: 10 Apr 2000 08:46:06 GMT
On 7 Apr 2000 15:53:43 GMT, Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>The linux clock is divorced from the bios clock. The bios clock is only
>used to set the intial time on bootup. It is there that your problem
>lies. You have changed something and your system is confused.
>
>
There is an exception if the system hass been sleeping for a while and
the system clock hasn;t been updated. When the system is woken up
it needs to set the clock from the RTC clock, and for this the kernel
needs to know if the RTC clock is running UTC or local time.
Therefore there is a kernel configuration paramter CONFIG_APM_RTC_IS_GMT
which you can set when you re-compile the kernel.
Villy
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From: Tim Piessens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: acrobat for linux (ps -> pdf)
Date: 10 Apr 2000 08:44:09 GMT
In comp.text.tex Juerg Tschirren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> J Bland wrote:
>>
>> >>Recent versions of ghostscript (such as 6.0, which just came out
>> >>recently, but also 5.5) include ps2pdf as well as pdf2ps. So you just
>> >>install ghostscript (probably installed already) and say
>> >>
>> >>ps2pdf file.ps file.pdf
>> >>
>> >>This works beautifully.
>> >
>> >No it doesn't. It mangles fonts. I've had the best luck using the
>>
>> Ditto, highly embarrassing to recommend ps2pdf to a colleague and then find
>> the output is highly irregular. It just doesn't work properly. The font
>> problem is a bad one. (How often do we here that in Linux?)
>>
>> JB
> With using
> dvips -Ppdf -G0 foo.dvi -o foo.ps
> ps2pdf foo.ps foo.pdf
I experienced a better result using :
dvips -Pcmz -Pamz -t a4 -o temp.ps temp.dvi
ps2pdf temp.ps temp.pdf
> I get perfect pdf files with type 1 fonts only.
> Juerg
--
============================================================================
Tim Piessens KU-Leuven, ESAT-MICAS
Phd-student Tel.: +32-16.32.11.49
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Root over NFS Problem
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 08:47:24 GMT
I'm trying to put toghether a semi-diskless linux workstation network. By
semi-diskless I mean that the WS boot from a local /boot partition but then
ask fon an IP adress with the BOOTP protocol and mount their / directory from
a linux sever via NFS. During the boot process I get stuck into this error
message: ..... ..... VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem). Looking up port of
RPC 100003/2 on 195.1.1.1 Looking up port of RPC 100005/1 on 195.1.1.1 VFS:
Mounted root (NFS Filesystem) readonly. change_root: old root has d_count=3
Trying to unmount old root ...<3> error -16 Change root to /initrd: error -2
.... .....
So......it seams that the WS mounts the / correctly but than has some
problems unmounting it because of this d_count=3 (which means that the / is
busy ???.....why ???)
Does someone have any suggestion ?
I'm running RedHat Linux 6.1, Kernel is 2.2.12-20
Are there better newsgroups foe this kind of problems ???
Thank you in advance for any help.
Marco
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 20:49:29 GMT
<btolder> wrote in message news:OAiWEiko$GA.265@cpmsnbbsa04...
>
> Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:kfJH4.1029
>
> > Except that they've never developed anything. Not anything new
> > anyway. MS products are mostly just bloated, crappy copies of
> > stuff other people invented.
>
> Where do you see the real innovation happening in this business? What
> companies? What specific technologies?
The one company that is pushing technologies like XML, technologies
for the disabled, internationalization/localization, enterprise distributed
computing, client-side Internet application interaction, server-side
Internet application interaction, and much, much more: Microsoft.
Microsoft usually doesn't invent a lot of big innovations, they make them
usable for the general public.
Kinda like BASF. "We don't make <invention>, we make it <adjective>."
-Chad
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From: Son Phan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Some Linux questions
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 09:15:59 GMT
Hello,
I have some questions below, may be these problems are already known and
solved and someone on the list can help me:
About the environment: I have Red Hat 6.1 on Pentium HW
1. I tried to install the "dummy" NW interface with "ifconfig" but the
error message was that this IF is not supported by my kernel. What can
be the solution: re-build the kernel?
2. The mounting of a NTFS HD was also failed (error message: ntfs not
supported by kernel). Again rebuilding the kernel?
3. I have Apache running. The default path for html file is
/home/httpd/html/
It seems that only root have access right to it. It is not so convenient
to develop the HTML files by root, so I created a link to my home. But
it turned out that those file not created by root can not be accessed by
apached (error message: access denied). I think it should be a solution
for developing HTML files by normal user so Apache can display them
Thanks,
Son
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From: "Dafydd Prichard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: which flavour for a 486
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 09:11:45 GMT
I want to try out Linux on an old 486 (I 'normally' use Mac OS and a little
Windows). I've tried both Corel and Mandrake and neither will install from
the CDs I have as they don't appear to support 486s'. Is Slack the answer?
Will I have any difficulty buying/downloading a compatible version? Pls
advise many thanks
>Daf
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Andras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: TV on Linux
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 09:26:00 +0000
Chus wrote:
>
> Hi, i'm trying to watch TV on Linux, but i'm having problems with it. I
> install the TV software, but when i try to execute it, it says that it
> can't find /dev/video. I've checked for the video device, and it's Ok. What
> is the problem?. How can i check the video device?. I'm completely lost, so
> any help would be great for me.
You should load the video4linux module.
(insmod videodev) and according to the type of the card that you have
you also need other modules.
If you have one based on the bt848 or bt878 chip then you would also
need the i2c modul, and the bttv module.
If that is the case I can give you webreferences for the above modules.
you should also set /etc/conf.modules accordingly.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Jes�s Angel Hern�ndez
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From: Andras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Some Linux questions
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 09:33:07 +0000
Son Phan wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I have some questions below, may be these problems are already known and
> solved and someone on the list can help me:
>
> About the environment: I have Red Hat 6.1 on Pentium HW
>
> 1. I tried to install the "dummy" NW interface with "ifconfig" but the
> error message was that this IF is not supported by my kernel. What can
> be the solution: re-build the kernel?
>
> 2. The mounting of a NTFS HD was also failed (error message: ntfs not
> supported by kernel). Again rebuilding the kernel?
>
to both of the above.
I don't think you should rebuild the kernel, since RH usually supplies
almost everything as a precompiled module.
try to load the corresponding modules (dummy and ntfs) with insmod,
or modprobe commands.
e.g. issue:
modprobe dummy
or insmod dummy
after that you should be able to make a dummy device and access NTFS
(readonly!)
> 3. I have Apache running. The default path for html file is
> /home/httpd/html/
> It seems that only root have access right to it. It is not so convenient
> to develop the HTML files by root, so I created a link to my home. But
> it turned out that those file not created by root can not be accessed by
> apached (error message: access denied). I think it should be a solution
> for developing HTML files by normal user so Apache can display them
Httpd runs as a normal user.
So anything a normal user can access can httpd too.
So make sure any user can cd to the directory in question and any user
has read access to the files in question.
(You might have a umask set to something, which the root user doesn't)
>
> Thanks,
> Son
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From: "Peet Grobler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: which flavour for a 486
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 11:33:40 +0200
I bought the Caldera Openlinux CD... Installed fine on my 486, though a bit
slow (but what would you expect?)
It actually supports 386 as well. (Don't go there - I did. Too damn slow)
see www.calderasystems.com
Dafydd Prichard wrote in message ...
>I want to try out Linux on an old 486 (I 'normally' use Mac OS and a little
>Windows). I've tried both Corel and Mandrake and neither will install from
>the CDs I have as they don't appear to support 486s'. Is Slack the answer?
>Will I have any difficulty buying/downloading a compatible version? Pls
>advise many thanks
>>Daf
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: JF Bosc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Q] Decrypt
Date: 10 Apr 2000 11:32:16 +0200
I'm using SuSE Linux 6.3, and I have to decrypt a file which was encrypted
with the "standard" UNIX "crypt" command. However this command is not provided
in the SuSE distribution. Is there a replacement, or can I download the
command somewhere ?
Thanks,
JF
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mohd-Hanafiah Abdullah)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.programmer,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: How to talk to the parallel port
Date: 10 Apr 2000 17:55:26 +0800
In Linux/UNIX how do I communicate with the parallel port. A sample or
reference to a program that illustrates this function in C would be great.
Thanks.
Napi
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From: Paul Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:56:08 +0100
"Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> <btolder> wrote in message news:OAiWEiko$GA.265@cpmsnbbsa04...
> >
> > Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:kfJH4.1029
> >
> > > Except that they've never developed anything. Not anything new
> > > anyway. MS products are mostly just bloated, crappy copies of
> > > stuff other people invented.
> >
> > Where do you see the real innovation happening in this business? What
> > companies? What specific technologies?
>
> The one company that is pushing technologies like XML, technologies
> for the disabled, internationalization/localization, enterprise distributed
> computing, client-side Internet application interaction, server-side
> Internet application interaction, and much, much more: Microsoft.
>
> Microsoft usually doesn't invent a lot of big innovations, they make them
> usable for the general public.
ROTFL
Paul
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Moore)
Subject: Re: uninstalling stuff
Date: 9 Apr 2000 22:57:25 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>ps. I personally think that the way programs spray themselves all over your
>system is terrible. One program, one job, ONE directory. Of course there are
>exceptions and sometimes, yes it does make more sense to spread them out...
I really prefer programs that keep their guts internal to a folder. When
does it make sense for a program to spread itself out? I usually create
symbolic links to the commonly used binaries for a program in
/usr/local/bin, just to make it easier to call them with /usr/local/bin in
the path.
Of course PRM's and the Debian dpkg are really nice solutions too. But you do
lose so e amount of control for the ease of use.
-Peter M.
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