Linux-Misc Digest #98, Volume #25 Mon, 10 Jul 00 13:13:02 EDT
Contents:
how locate and use the C++ compiler ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Automounting FAT32 Hdd's on Redhat 6.2 boot up (Tim Lyth)
Re: Consequences of a new kernel (Dances With Crows)
The right Modem for the job ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wget timeout parameter (figmo)
Re: wget timeout parameter (Hal Burgiss)
Re: Can't get darn printer to work! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: PPP dialin with uugetty (Robert Lynch)
Re: No Carrier - 3Com ISDN TA (JoeB)
lilo on Floppy to Boot Kernel on Fixed disk (Martin McCormick)
Re: Help - Is there a 3D Text Rendering Program for Linux (e.g. Web Page Titles)?
(John Hasler)
Re: lilo on Floppy to Boot Kernel on Fixed disk (Dances With Crows)
Identd Server help please ("Curtman")
Re: Installation problems with SSH on RH 6.2 (zoot) (Nina Kucklaender)
Re: Question about ls
Re: how locate and use the C++ compiler (Florian E.J. Fruth)
the "i hate it when that happens" dept. (mindglow)
Re: Help - Is there a 3D Text Rendering Program for Linux (e.g. Web Page Titles)?
(William Burrow)
Re: Mounting an ATAPI CD-RW (Anilkumar Karanam)
Re: Really large hard drive (William Burrow)
Re: Application required - Word Processor (Rod Smith)
Re: why can i telnet as root on one but not on another? (Fabian Gebhardt)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: how locate and use the C++ compiler
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 15:04:48 GMT
Ok, Yes I'm a newbie but hey at leaste I'm here.
Any way I was hoping to refresh my C Programing skills. How do I launch
the compiler for C.
I'm using Red hat 6.2
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From: Tim Lyth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Automounting FAT32 Hdd's on Redhat 6.2 boot up
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 20:54:44 +1000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I worked out how to do it today, so any future replies to this thread
are not necessary.
I sent the original post from Netscape for Linux, but this message from
Netscape for Windows.
Cheers,
Tim Lyth
p.s. I have made /dev/hda1 and /dev/hdd1 permanently mounted.
root wrote:
>
> To this newsgroup,
> I am seeking a way/method to automatically mount hda1 and hdd1 when I boot
>up linux, so that I
> don't have to log in as root each time, mount them, then logout and back in a a
>standard user.
>
> Is there a simple way in which to do this as I am new to Linux and chose to install
>it on my system
> in hdc1 (a FAT32 DOS partition) so as not to risk damage to Win98SE on hda1.
>
> Any help would be appreciated,
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tim Lyth
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Consequences of a new kernel
Date: 10 Jul 2000 11:17:53 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 10 Jul 2000 13:11:24 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<<8kci1h$ima$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>When 2.4 is available I want to upgrade to take advantage of USB
>support. However, I am unsure about the the *consequences* of installing
>a new kernel.
>
>Obviously, the OS has been built upon a particular kernel API.
>Therefore, a new kernel can break the installed system by changing the
>API.
>
>So the question is, how do I quantify the impact of a new kernel and
>identify the affected sources?
0. Install new kernel, keeping old kernel around just in case. See
http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Kernel-HOWTO.html for the scoop on how to do
this.
1. Reboot and see if anything breaks
FWIW, when I went from 2.2.14 to 2.4.0-test1, nothing major broke. I had
to add one line in /etc/fstab so that shared memory would be available--
that's it.
The userland API is supposed to remain very consistent from one kernel
version to the next--what use would it be otherwise? Kernel internals are
a different story.
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows /\ "Man could not stare too long at the face
\----[this space for rent]-----/ \ of the Computer or her children and still
\There is no Darkness in Eternity \ remain as Man." --David Zindell "So did
But only Light too dim for us to see\ they become Gods, or Usenetters?" --/me
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: The right Modem for the job
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 15:06:41 GMT
I'm using Red Hat 6.2. I was told by support that I need to use a venus
modem. Lucent whoopee. Any one have any Ideas as to where these thing
are sold and at what Price??
Dean
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From: figmo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: wget timeout parameter
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 15:05:17 GMT
I am having trouble with the wget timeout parameter. I'm not sure if
it's something wierd with the URL I am using to test with - or if this
parameter just plain don't work in wget. I've tried this...
wget -T 5 http:/ /24.12.130.194/HTMZ-24/billy1.htm
and this...
wget --timeout=5 http:// 24.12.130.194/HTMZ-24/billy1.htm
But no matter what number I enter in for a timeout - it always hangs
for about 15 minutes trying to connect to this site. The info page
says the default is 900 seconds. I can set the number of retries with
the -t parameter and that works - but even 1 retry with a 15 minute
timeout is too long for this app.
I am using wget as a way to validate web links and I can't have my
application hanging up for 15 minutes everytime it hits a bad link.
BTW - the link I am using for testing (shown above) is a known bad
link. It is an example if the kind of thing I am trying to weed out of
my application.
Any thoughts on this?
-figmo
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: wget timeout parameter
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 15:30:02 GMT
On Mon, 10 Jul 2000 15:05:17 GMT, figmo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am having trouble with the wget timeout parameter. I'm not sure if
>it's something wierd with the URL I am using to test with - or if this
>parameter just plain don't work in wget. I've tried this...
>
>wget -T 5 http:/ /24.12.130.194/HTMZ-24/billy1.htm
>
>and this...
>
>wget --timeout=5 http:// 24.12.130.194/HTMZ-24/billy1.htm
I'll hope you get an answer, because I've seen the exact same thing and
could not get it to work either.
--
Hal B
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Can't get darn printer to work!
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Date: 10 Jul 2000 11:33:57 -0400
In comp.os.linux.misc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 9: I had a problem with my printer, in that it kept giving me an error
> about not getting a status response. Turn it off. For example, I have
> an HP600 and have the following line in my printcap.
> :ifhp=model=djet500,status@
> where the "status@" line turns off the status request.
> A: If you are printing postscript, and the printer does not support it,
> have you set up GhostScript as a filter? Have you made it an
> executable script?
And again, if you make changes, remember to close down and restart lpd
afterwards.
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From: Robert Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: PPP dialin with uugetty
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 08:34:26 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Anurodh wrote:
>
> I have Red Hat 6.2 installed in my 12MB RAM, 486 66Mhz. I am trying to
> configure a PPP dial in to my server through an external Hayes 33.6 modem
> on com 2 with uugetty. I have checked my modem and it will dial out in dos
[snip]
There is an excellent how-to on this at:
http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue36/ali.html
"Setting Up a PPP/POP Dial-in Server USING Red Hat Linux 5.1"
that might help you check your setup.
HTH. Bob L.
--
Robert Lynch-Berkeley CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: JoeB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: No Carrier - 3Com ISDN TA
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 16:43:38 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How do you do that?
What are the AT commands for tha?
Paul Martin wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> JoeB wrote:
>
> >I am using 3COM ISDN Terminal Adaptor (TA), with RH 6.2. I can
> >communicate with the TA but for some reason I am unable to dial out. I
> >get an error in /var/log/messages saying "No Carrier". What could
> >possible be wrong? I can receive calls on the TA and in Windoze I can
> >make calls. Am I missing something? Any help or pointers will be
> >appreciated.
>
> Just a thought: you may need to tell your card (using AT commands) that
> you're talking to an ESTI (NET5, EuroISDN) type of exchange, and that
> you're wanting to call out with a particular protocol type (eg. X.75).
>
> NO CARRIER often means that the other end has rejected your call due to
> some incompatibility.
>
> --
> Paul Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> at home, swap dash to dot to email.
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Subject: lilo on Floppy to Boot Kernel on Fixed disk
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin McCormick)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 15:29:59 GMT
I want to install lilo on a bootable floppy so that the system boots
linux if a floppy is in drive A or DOS if not.
The documentation indicates that lilo simply resides in the
same place where the DOS boot sector is found.
What I either missed or didn't look in the right place to find
is what do I do in Linux to end up with a floppy disk that has lilo in
the boot sector?
The rest should involve pointing out the linux partition on
the hard drive where the kernel and the other file systems are. In
other words, the floppy just makes linux boot from the hard drive.
Somehow, I think I am missing something glaringly obvious in
the RTFM department, so my apologies in advance. I thought fdisk
was the thing to use, but it is for fixed disks.
Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK
OSU Center for Computing and Information Services Data Communications Group
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help - Is there a 3D Text Rendering Program for Linux (e.g. Web Page
Titles)?
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 13:01:31 GMT
Derek Mark Edding writes:
> I'm looking for a ->simple<- application that allows rendering 3D text
> for web page titles, if possible. I'd like to create a series of images
> with shading from different angles in order to build an animated GIF
> image (as with gifmerge).
Give us the URL's so we'll know what to avoid.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: lilo on Floppy to Boot Kernel on Fixed disk
Date: 10 Jul 2000 11:53:56 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 10 Jul 2000 15:29:59 GMT, Martin McCormick
<<XZla5.40$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>
>I want to install lilo on a bootable floppy so that the system boots
>linux if a floppy is in drive A or DOS if not.
[snippage]
# fdformat /dev/fd0h1440
# dd if=/boot/vmlinuz of=/dev/fd0 bs=18k
This will make a bare-bones bootable floppy, using your original kernel
image. You can make a better boot floppy with LILO on it if you need to
pass kernel parameters at boot time; documentation should have come with
your boxed set if you have a boxed set. Or try
http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Bootdisk-HOWTO.html for more than you ever
wanted to know.
BTW, this is a *bad idea* for generalized booting purposes. Floppies die
and get corrupted much faster than hard disks, and booting from a floppy
is much slower than booting from a hard disk. Set your Linux partition
active and install LILO in the bootsector of that partition if you're
afraid to mess with the MBR!
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows /\ "Man could not stare too long at the face
\----[this space for rent]-----/ \ of the Computer or her children and still
\There is no Darkness in Eternity \ remain as Man." --David Zindell "So did
But only Light too dim for us to see\ they become Gods, or Usenetters?" --/me
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From: "Curtman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Identd Server help please
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 10:52:33 -0500
Hi there,
A simple issue that's driving me kind of nuts here so I need to ask it. I
have a network with 2 windows machines sharing an ADSL connection through a
linux box running Mandrake 6.1. I use IRC on the windows machine and the
linux machine but regardless if I'm using the windows machine or the linux
system it tells me that my ident server is not responding. I'll be honest
I'm quite new at linux and I'm not too familliar with ident. I looked
through the man for it and it wasn't too helpfull and I've gone through all
kinds of documentation and it dosen't seem to help. I've edited the
inetd.conf file to have the proper ident line in there but I still can't get
a response from port 113.
Could someone please give me a link to a site that explains ident in great
detail so I could get this working or possibly email me to let me know how
to correct this please?
Just a little further detail, when I try to connect to port 113 on my
machine I get the following:
0,0 ERROR : UNKOWN ERROR
Thanks,
Curtis P.
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From: Nina Kucklaender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installation problems with SSH on RH 6.2 (zoot)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 17:58:03 +0200
Sverre Torjussen wrote:
> I've got some problems with compiling certain packages like SSH
> probably due to missing header files that includes error or status
> codes.
> ...
> Any help most welcome.
Hm, if you don't want to compile ssh, there are rpm's at
http://www.zedz.net (former replay associates):
ftp://ftp.zedz.net/pub/crypto/redhat/i386/
or the mirror:
ftp://ftp.nl.monster.org/pub/ftp.zedz.net/redhat/i386/
they(ssh-1.2.27-7i.i386.rpm) worked for me with RH6.2.
xs4all,
nina
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Question about ls
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 16:21:01 GMT
On Sat, 8 Jul 2000 17:25:21 -0500, Andrew N. McGuire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>On 8 Jul 2000, Andrew Onifer quoth:
>
>[] On Sat, 08 Jul 2000 15:41:27 GMT, Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[] >Tandem Guy wrote:
>[] >> Hello. I'm a pretty new linux user and I'm having trouble using the
>[] >> command ls. I would like to search the current directory (or some
>[] >> arbitrary directory for that matter) and ALL subdirectories located
>[] >> under it for the existence of a given file, but I can't make that
>[] >> happen.
>[] >Use the "find" command. Do "man find" to learn about it.
>[] >The command you want would be something like this:
>[] > find . -name *.zip
>[]
>[] Correction: It should be
>[] find . -name "*.zip"
>[]
>[] Without the quotes, the asterisk will get passed to the shell.
>
>Correction: no it won't. ( depending on your shell )
>
>[anm@hawk ~] find . -name *.txt
>./docs/ac_dns.txt
>./ac_dns.txt
>
>Works just fine in tcsh anyway.
>
That is because ac_dns was in the current directory. *.txt
got expanded to include all the .txt files in the current directory
and then a search was down in all subdirectories for those same files.
If ac_dns.txt didn't exist in . then it wouldn't have been found in the
docs directory.
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From: Florian E.J. Fruth <fejf@gmx*/dev/null*.de>
Subject: Re: how locate and use the C++ compiler
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 18:20:22 +0200
In article <8kcom4$ntt$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> Ok, Yes I'm a newbie but hey at leaste I'm here.
> Any way I was hoping to refresh my C Programing skills. How do I launch
> the compiler for C.
> I'm using Red hat 6.2
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
if installed u just type gcc (for c compiler) or g++ (for c++
compiler)...
fejf
--
the backup of my harddisk only takes the half time it
did yesterday. i started to pipe it to /dev/null
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From: mindglow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: the "i hate it when that happens" dept.
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 16:27:56 GMT
Guy's 'n' Doll's,
Have any of you ever had this experience?
/the story:/
I'm a systems specialist for a rather large firm in europe and in my
firm, linux is the stuff of the ungodly.
It runs, but it runs hidden. I'll bet there may be two boxes (one of
em's mine) stashed away out of thousands. (big house)
I've been talking about linux for the past year and a half or so and
slowly my suroundings are starting to adapt to my... otherness. We run
all kinds of stuff but no .. yup and i used to be the strange guy who
talked about lin..what did you call it again?
Now, the ppl around me are starting to become aware that linux and i
weren't full of it, and i'm actually starting to get questions and stuff
from (mostly the younger) collegae around me who seem to see me as a
sort of rebel-geek. i've actually been talking to managers (aka. MIS, or
men in suits) about my addiction to something that they could never
_officially_ admit they were curious (or even (dare i say it?)
enthusiastic about). Even so, i get carefully guarded responses to "go
for it and see where it takes you".
What's that "it"? Well the implementation of linux in the production
environment of my work. (ahhh! heaven)
/end of story/
Today something happend that prompted me to write this, so here's the
lowdown: my house uses a disgusting application to make a certain type
of server availible as a cdrom-server (after hanging a cdrom tower on
some scsi or other). This application is unstable and the servers were
never ment to serve cdrom towers in a high load environment. Anyway
after server x went down for the gazillionth time a 10 watt bulb lit up
in a dark corner of my mind.
Never having done a (more or less) "radical" thing in the production
network before, i tested _my_ linux server (redhat 6.2 dual ppro, 160mb,
24gb raid on a megaraid controler and now a cdrom tower w/7 devices) by
attaching said tower. Well the tower was recognized and i mounted and it
worked. It worked.
I told my boss.
He said: "good work, mindglow, you did good. really. now go and fix the
other server."
I said: "but it'll go down again tomorrow. it's not ment to be a cdrom
server and the cdtower app. totally bites wind."
He said: "if it downs then too bad, but you're not putting that untried,
untested linux configuration who no one else can administer but yourself
into production."
And you know what? Even though i hated it when it happened, he's right.
--mindglow
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Subject: Re: Help - Is there a 3D Text Rendering Program for Linux (e.g. Web Page
Titles)?
Date: 10 Jul 2000 16:39:57 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 10 Jul 2000 13:01:31 GMT,
John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Derek Mark Edding writes:
>> I'm looking for a ->simple<- application that allows rendering 3D text
>> for web page titles, if possible. I'd like to create a series of images
>> with shading from different angles in order to build an animated GIF
>> image (as with gifmerge).
>
>Give us the URL's so we'll know what to avoid.
If you're like me, you aren't going there voluntarily anyway.... :)
--
William Burrow -- New Brunswick, Canada o
Copyright 2000 William Burrow ~ /\
~ ()>()
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From: Anilkumar Karanam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Mounting an ATAPI CD-RW
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:47:13 -0400
Thanks ,
That seems to have fixed my problem.
Anil
Dances With Crows wrote:
> Edit /etc/conf.modules with your favorite text editor, and find the line
> that says "scsi_hostadapter". Remove that line, and replace it with this
> line:
> alias scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi
> This will force loading of the ide-scsi module whenever a "SCSI" device is
> accessed, which is what you want unless you have a real SCSI bus
> somewhere.
>
> Information of the conf.modules file can be found by doing "man
> conf.modules", naturally.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Subject: Re: Really large hard drive
Date: 10 Jul 2000 16:44:05 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 9 Jul 2000 18:48:09 -0700,
Todd Lasman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm trying to install Redhat 6.2 on my new 38 gig Maxtor hard drive. I've
Oh, I thought you meant one of the 70 gig drives coming out....
>partitioned the disk into suitably smaller partitions, but the installation
Using what exactly?
>program refuses even to recognize that I have a disk at all! Please don't
During the boot sequence for the install, do you see that your drive is
recognized by Linux?
>refer me to the Large Drive Mini Howto -- I've looked at it, and it's quite
>unhelpful.
In what way? Perhaps the important step is getting Linux to recognize
the drive at all. I believe the trick with smaller drives was to set the
BIOS to treat the drive as an 8G model -- Linux doesn't care but LILO
has to be able to boot somehow.
--
William Burrow -- New Brunswick, Canada o
Copyright 2000 William Burrow ~ /\
~ ()>()
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Application required - Word Processor
Crossposted-To: comp.os.msdos.apps
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 16:50:51 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <39697391$0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Barns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi guys,
>
> I dusted off my 386 20 mhz which had been minus a screen for 5 years.
> I just want to use it for word processing. Is there a freeware word
> processing package available. My machine has Linux 1.2.1 and MSDOS 6.22.
> (Did I hear someone laugh - I am from Africa!!)
Without X, and with such a weak CPU, your choices are definitely
limited. AFAIK, there are no full text-mode-only word processing
packages for Linux. You might want to look into using LaTeX. You can
then write your documents using any ASCII text editor and create final
output by processing them through LaTeX. Alternatively, you might see
about running a DOS word processor (such as WordPerfect 4.x or 5.x)
under DOSEMU, or directly in DOS.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux networking & multi-OS configuration
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From: Fabian Gebhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: why can i telnet as root on one but not on another?
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 18:59:54 +0200
jellybeesh wrote:
> but for added knowledge, how do i enable this?
> i am only telnet'ing' within my own intranet.
Example for SuSE Linux (Maybe it's the same on other distributions?)
Edit your /ect/rc.config!
Search for the line or add it: ROOT_LOGIN_REMOTE
For no remote root logins: ROOT_LOGIN_REMOTE="no"
But I would use ssh for remote root logins!
--
CU, Fabian Gebhardt
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ#: 77948091
Homepage: http://www.ki.tng.de/~gebhardt
Schul-Seite: http://www.ebg.org
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