Linux-Misc Digest #128, Volume #24 Wed, 12 Apr 00 14:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: What the heck is linux doing? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: What the heck is linux doing? (Andreas Kahari)
Re: Programming Languages on Linux (Michael Kelly)
Re: sendmail with attachment (Grant Edwards)
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: Linux Crashed and Can't Get Up (Raul Trujillo)
Re: What the heck is linux doing? (Leejay Wu)
Re: What the heck is linux doing? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: [FLAME] Re: monitoring users ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
BIG PPPd problem (James)
Re: Linux Crashed and Can't Get Up (Robie Basak)
Re: Matrox G200 setup for X (Robie Basak)
Re: /dev file permission keep changing (Robie Basak)
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (Patrick O'Neil)
Re: What the heck is linux doing? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [FLAME] Re: monitoring users (Andreas Kahari)
Help, Please ("Don")
Re: Which backup software to use? (Timothy J. Lee)
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (William Brogden)
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (Patrick O'Neil)
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What the heck is linux doing?
Date: 12 Apr 2000 17:14:04 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: I'm sorry for the bad attitude but I'm really pissed off by this stupid
: command "od" on linux, to be specific, redhat6.1. I was working on a java
: project in which I wrote a small program to read in the first four bytes
: of any binary file and interpret it as an integer(ie. a 32-bit integer).
: Ok I tried this on the file "/bin/ls", and I got the number
: 2135247942, then I used od to verify it, ok "od -t u4 /bin/ls" give me
The first 4 bytes of /bin/ls, according to my od, are 457f 464c
0000000 457f 464c 0101 0001 0000 0000 0000 0000
: an integer, 17xxxxxxx(sorry but can't remember the whole thing), which
errm, let's see.
sh -c 'echo $[ 0x457f464c ]'
1165968972
: does not equal to what I got using the java program, "od -t d4 /bin/ls"
: yielded the same result as "od -t u4 /bin/ls". So, linux can't be wrong on
I have no idea what those options do. They're not in my manpage.
Complain to redhat or the author of the program you have if you think
there is a bug.
Peter
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From: Andreas Kahari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What the heck is linux doing?
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 17:07:20 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm sorry for the bad attitude but I'm really pissed off by this
stupid
> command "od" on linux, to be specific, redhat6.1. I was working on a
java
> project in which I wrote a small program to read in the first four
bytes
> of any binary file and interpret it as an integer(ie. a 32-bit
integer).
> Ok I tried this on the file "/bin/ls", and I got the number
> 2135247942, then I used od to verify it, ok "od -t u4 /bin/ls" give me
> an integer, 17xxxxxxx(sorry but can't remember the whole thing), which
> does not equal to what I got using the java program, "od -t d4
/bin/ls"
> yielded the same result as "od -t u4 /bin/ls". So, linux can't be
wrong on
> this routine issue, it must have been the stupid me, right? That's
what
> I thought, and it took me almost a whole day fuddling around the
numerous
> java documentation without finding out what I had done wrong. Only in
the
> end did I realize, by wrting a simple C routine that does the same
job,
> that the first four bytes in /bin/ls are: \177, E, L, F, which is
exactly
> 2135247942 when translated into a 32-bit integer. Then what the heck
was
> the output of "od -t u4 /bin/ls" or "od -t d4 /bin/ls"? I tried this
> command on a Solaris system, and yes it gave the _correct_ answer. It
only
> seems to be a problem of linux implementing this "od" command, and I
tried
> other options of od on redhat6.1, when outputing as bytes, or
characters,
> "od" always worked fine, but, when outputing as integers, it gave out
this
> misterious result that doesn't make sense to me at all. Well maybe
that's
> not a bug, just that the idiot who wrote "od" for linux decided he/she
> would like to present the world a brand new way of representing an
integer?
> What the heck is linux doing?
>
> PS: For the exact output of od I talked about here, just run
> "od -t u4 /bin/ls" or "od -t d4 /bin/ls" on a redhat6.1 system.
This
> is the system I do my work on, upgraded from redhat6.0, which was
again
> upgraded from 5.1.
>
Does the number 1179403647 tell you anything? It happens to be the
integer representation of 'F', 'L', 'E' followed by octal 177.
My guess is that you're on an Intel machine, which is little endian, and
that 'od' therefore gets 1179403647. The Sparc running Solaris is a big
endian machine... and so is the Java virtual machine it seems(?). That's
your problem.
/A
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Kelly)
Subject: Re: Programming Languages on Linux
Date: 12 Apr 2000 17:12:29 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Lew Pitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Peet Grobler wrote:
>>
>> What programming languages are there on linux? I know about C++, Fortran and
>> Pascal. But anything else? Anything that's "own" to Linux?
[snip]
> COBOL, C, C++, Fortran, Simula, Modula, Lisp, Pascal, Perl, Python,
> Java, TCL (and TK), Bash, Csh, Ksh, pdsh, and Assembly language
> (platform specific). I know I've forgotten more of the list than I've
> remembered.
>
>
btw-anyone use the free version of Eiffel recently? I read Object
Oriented Software Construction years back and was always curious
about it. Care to share any thoughts about Eiffel code writing
experience and maybe how it feels similar or different than C++
or Smalltalk or other OO languages etc.?? Also maybe how easy
or difficult it is to install and use on a Linux PC would be
of interest.
TIA
--
Mike
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-- Groucho Marx
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From: grant@nowhere. (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: sendmail with attachment
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 17:23:46 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Gero H. Marten wrote:
>> how can I attach some file when posting mail with
>> sendmail -t < laber.txt
>
>Sendmail only transports mail. Attaching is done via your mail client
>(Netscape, pine, elm, etc.).
If you want to send mail with attachments from the command
line, mutt works very nicely:
echo "message" | mutt -s "files" -a file1 -a file2 user@host
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at now because I have
visi.com MERCHANDISING CLOUT!!
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 12:30:16 -0500
Robert Wiegand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >CP/M would have worked just as well, it just wasn't the first one
> > >available an lost the market.
> >
> > Actually...
> > CP/M _was_ the first one.
> > The founder of Intergalactic Digital Research just didn't bother to
> > answer the calls from the suits from Big Blue..
> > IBM was interested in MS' Basic compiler and since there was no
> > response from IDR, Gates promised to deliver the OS as well.
>
> By "available" I was refering to "available for purchase by users"
> not "exists in some development lab".
CP/M *WAS* available for purchase. In fact, you could buy machines such as
the Osborne and Kaypro with CP/M at about the same time. The TRS/80 ran a
version of CP/M in the late 70's.
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From: Raul Trujillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Crashed and Can't Get Up
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 17:24:49 GMT
Thanks guys,
I'm up and running.
Leonard Evens wrote:
> Raul Trujillo wrote:
> >
> > Hya,
> >
> > My Linux box gave up on me. Because of some hardware problem (Linux was
> > frozen) I was forced to shutdown RedHat 6.1 without the 'shutdown'
> > command.
> >
> > Now, when I tried rebooting, it tells me to press: CTRL+D for a normal
> > start up or to give the root password for maintenance. Anyways I type
> > the password and type 'fsck' and it responds with "Parallelizing fsck
> > version 1.15 (18-Jul-1999). I also tried 'mke2fs /dev/hda1' but tells
> > me that 'hda1' is in use. Can someone tell me what I must do to get it
> > back up and running?
> >
> > Thanx...
> >
> > Raul Trujillo
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> fsck /dev/hda1
> Then give the default answer to any questions it may ask.
> mke2fs /dev/hda1 would have wiped out what was in that partition
> and destroyed your system had it worked. Don't use a command
> you don't understand!
> --
>
> Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
> Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: Leejay Wu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What the heck is linux doing?
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 13:15:45 -0400
Excerpts from netnews.comp.os.linux.misc: 12-Apr-100 What the heck is
linux doing? by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[snip]
> end did I realize, by wrting a simple C routine that does the same job,
Simple, but wrong. On x86, anyway.
> that the first four bytes in /bin/ls are: \177, E, L, F, which is exactly
> 2135247942 when translated into a 32-bit integer. Then what the heck was
> the output of "od -t u4 /bin/ls" or "od -t d4 /bin/ls"? I tried this
[snip]
Not on a little-endian machine. But thanks for the chuckle at your
claiming you've got the One True Way and that all little-endian
proponents are idiots.
The byte sequence (hex) 7F, 45, 4C, 46 is *not* 2135247942 on an x86-
based machine; it's 1179403647.
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What the heck is linux doing?
Date: 12 Apr 2000 17:19:56 GMT
Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: The first 4 bytes of /bin/ls, according to my od, are 457f 464c
: 0000000 457f 464c 0101 0001 0000 0000 0000 0000
: : an integer, 17xxxxxxx(sorry but can't remember the whole thing), which
: errm, let's see.
: sh -c 'echo $[ 0x457f464c ]'
: 1165968972
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: : does not equal to what I got using the java program, "od -t d4 /bin/ls"
: : yielded the same result as "od -t u4 /bin/ls". So, linux can't be wrong on
Oh. You'll kick yourself. It's just occurred to me that you might be
outputting in octal, not hex! 17xxxxxx certainly suggests so.
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [FLAME] Re: monitoring users
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 17:19:43 GMT
You know, people should really try to get all the information before
sending flames.. A lot more people use that kind of thing than you
obviously think. Is it better to simply watch what someone is doing
with your corporate computer rather than filter out anything which
might be politically incorrect? Or should the parents of a 6 year old
not give a damn about their son watching child porn (or any porn for
that matter) online? Or getting copies from classmates - which will
never show up through a filter. These programs have a use, and if you
were a little more mature and not so uncaring about how people wish to
raise their kids you could see that. The computer is a powerful tool.
Unfortunately, the internet is unregulated and certain people prey on
the defensless.
City
In article <8d282n$rig$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Andreas Kahari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <8d27fi$qrt$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Andreas Kahari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > In article <8d26p9$q1u$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > Is there any software for linux that will monitor users? I'm not
> > > looking for a filter or firewall. Windows has a program called
> > Spector
> > > (I think) but it's not compatable. Basically, it just takes a
> > snapshot
> > > of the screen and a pre-set time interval. It also logs
keystrokes,
> > > internet sites, and programs. It's a remarkable program, but I
need
> > it
> > > (or something similar) for linux. It also has a stealth mode,
where
> > > the user never knows it's there (no entry in the registry, icon,
> file,
> > > etc.).
> > >
> > > Can anyone help me? I've already checked out Peek from Computron,
> as
> > > well as searching throughout the net (or as much as one person
can).
> > > Tucows wasn't too helpful either.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > City
> > >
> > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > > Before you buy.
> > >
> >
> > Hello City
> >
> > <joke>
> > Try getting a licence for Echelon. The NSA should be easy to
> contact...
> > they know where *you* live.
> > </joke>
> >
> > Do people actually *use* those kind of systems? Do people that use
> > those kind of systems actually *keep* their users? Are those users
> that
> > stay stupid or what?
> >
> > /A
> >
>
> <flame>
> I re-read your post a number of times after posing my reply, and I
just
> wanted to add this: Could you please go and put your head inside a
cow?
> </flame>
>
> Sorry, but I got a little bit, you know, angry.
>
> /A
>
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From: James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: BIG PPPd problem
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 17:30:16 GMT
I have been trying to set up my internet accounts in linux mandrake
7.0, I used to use corel linux and everyting worked fine so I know that my
hardware is OK.
When I try to connect using Kppp the modem dials and I get the message
"logging on to network" and then an error message "The pppd daemon died
unexpectedly" and the modem hangs up.
I have tried running the pppd in a terminal window but I dont get any
of that wierd garbled text coming out like you're supposed to. instead
linux acknowledges the command and starts a new prompt
I then opened pppd in a text editor and it only contained 3 letters;
ELF.
Does anyone know how to fix my problem?
Thanks.
JL
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robie Basak)
Subject: Re: Linux Crashed and Can't Get Up
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 12 Apr 2000 17:33:47 GMT
On 12 Apr 2000 15:32:39 GMT, Peter T. Breuer said:
>Raul Trujillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: Now, when I tried rebooting, it tells me to press: CTRL+D for a normal
>: start up or to give the root password for maintenance. Anyways I type
>: the password and type 'fsck' and it responds with "Parallelizing fsck
>: version 1.15 (18-Jul-1999). I also tried 'mke2fs /dev/hda1' but tells
>
>man fsck.
>
>: me that 'hda1' is in use. Can someone tell me what I must do to get it
>: back up and running?
It might still be mounted read-write; you're lucky it was, otherwise
mke2fs will wipe it. Do:
mount -o ro,remount /dev/hda1 /mount_point
(I don't know what your mount_point is, you should (it's in /etc/fstab)
>
>
>NAME
> fsck - check and repair a Linux file system
>
>SYNOPSIS
> fsck [ -sACVRTNP ] [ -t fstype ] [--] [ fsck-options ]
> filesys [ ... ]
>
>E.g. "fsck /dev/hda1"!
>
>Now what was the mote in your eye that prevented you doing or seeing
>that?
Excellent point, unless he doesn't know about the man command.
Windows people (if he is one) won't be used to having an easy yet
comprehensive online help system.
Robie.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robie Basak)
Subject: Re: Matrox G200 setup for X
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 12 Apr 2000 17:36:19 GMT
On Wed, 12 Apr 2000 12:19:53 GMT, William Wueppelmann said:
>I've been trying to configure my Matrox G200 AGP card with XFree 3.2.3 (as
Redhat 5.2, which comes with version 3.3.2.3, doesn't have the drivers.
3.3.3.1 (and later) does. Upgrade.
>provided by Debian 2.1). I can get a working setup using the VGA_16
>server, but when I try to configure it to use the SVGA server using
>XF86Setup, no matter how I configure it, when it tries to start the X
>server, it does so at 320x200 resolution.
>
>Has anyone seen anything like this, and does anyone know what I should be
>doing? Does the SVGA server not support the G200, and if not, what server
>should I be looking for?
>
>Thanks.
>
>--
>It is pitch black.
>You are likely to be spammed by a grue.
Robie.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robie Basak)
Subject: Re: /dev file permission keep changing
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 12 Apr 2000 17:38:29 GMT
On Wed, 12 Apr 2000 06:45:35 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>Yeah, don't let other people login and start kde. I'm not sure exactly
>what part of X is doing that, but changing the permissions of certain
>devices like sound, console, etc are a very normal thing when X fires up
>on the local console. You could always add chmod's to that user's
>.xsession, but I doubt he'd appreciate that.
That won't work, unless that user owns the relevant devices. Most
likely it's an suid program.
Robie.
>
>
>In article <ghQI4.182184$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> DaveDiego <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> When I'm logged into my Mandrake 6.0/ KDE 1.1 desktop the file
>permissions of
>> /dev/dsp /dev/audio and /dev/mixer get changed after someone else does
>a
>> <ctrl>+<alt>+<F2>, leaving me logged in and then the second person
>logs in.
>> The second person then starts KDE.
>>
>> Here is whats happening. While still logged in as myself, I
>logged
>> in as another user and started KDE. The first listing is before the
>logon,
>> the second listing is after KDE starts and the third listing is after
>the
>> user logs
>out.
>>
>> #Single user
>> [root@case /dev]# ls -l dsp audio
>mixer
>> crw-rw-rw- 1 root audio 14, 4 Apr 17 1999
>audio
>> crw-rw-rw- 1 root audio 14, 3 Apr 17 1999
>dsp
>> crw-rw-rw- 1 root audio 14, 0 Apr 17 1999 mixer
>>
>> #Second user, KDE started.
>> [root@case /dev]# ls -l dsp audio
>mixer
>> crw-rw---- 1 chris audio 14, 4 Apr 17 1999
>audio
>> crw-rw---- 1 chris audio 14, 3 Apr 17 1999
>dsp
>> crw-rw---- 1 chris audio 14, 0 Apr 17 1999
>mixer
>>
>> #Second user has logged out.
>> [root@case /dev]# ls -l dsp audio
>mixer
>> crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 4 Apr 17 1999
>audio
>> crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 Apr 17 1999
>dsp
>> crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 0 Apr 17 1999 mixer
>>
>> After this, the first user (ME :) can't use tha audio until I
>manually
>> change the permission back.
>>
>> Anyone know whats changing the permissions and how can I make it
>stop?
>>
>>
>
>
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From: Patrick O'Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:54:00 -0600
Otto wrote:
>
> "fungus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> >
> > Otto wrote:
> > >
> > > You can market a product as much as you want to. If people
> > > don't want it the product will fail.
> > >
> >
> > Products can succeed indirectly.
> >
> > Not many people really want to buy gasoline, but they
> > want the car and buying gas is part of car owning.
>
> There is alternative fuel vehicles but there isn't many people who use them,
> or want to use them.
Indeed there are. They are more expensive and more difficult to keep
going.
Where are you going to fill up your ethanol burning car? Where are you
going to plug in you electric, which, by the way is more expensive to
operate
overall? There are alternatives to gas cars but they are not convenient
and
not as cheap. The analogy sucks here.
M$ has NEVER innovated. Not once. There is simply not a single example
of a single M$ innovation anywhere, anytime. Such things don't exist.
M$ is lying at worst, disingenuous at best, when it calls for the
"right" to innovate. Well, the day they actually do innovate will be
a first.
Their problem is not being a monopoly (which they are), it is in using
unfair and ILLEGAL means to maintain their monopoly. If they had gained
and maintained their monopoly SOLELY on the merits of their software
and os, then no problem. But they didn't acquire their monopoly thus
and
they do not maintain it thus. They use illegal, unethical, and unfair
means to force out competitors that actually make better products and
DO innovate. Unacceptable. If M$ can't maintain their market position
SOLEY on the merits of their software, barring illegal pressure,
bundling,
threats, etc, then they deserve to be disemboweled.
The internet does not belong to M$. They have no right to try to
hijack it so that it only works (or works well) with THEIR products.
We have standards bodies that publish THE standards that EVERYONE
can and should use to ensure that the internet remains open to ALL
regardless of hardware, os, or software.
This applies to many other file formats, graphic apis, etc.
I would cheer if M$ were broken to pieces and actually were forced
to innovate in order to survive. I would be satisfied if all apis,
file formats, and use of communication protocols were taken out of
their hands and they be required to work thru and with the various
standards bodies. They would be free to "innovate" by adding
extensions to TCP/IP, HTML, XML, Java, etc, but ONLY if the changes
were made available to all (without licensing). In other words,
they can either work WITH a standards body to incorporate a change
they desire OR they can release the standard, free to all to use,
and go ahead and use it themselves. No obfuscation ever again.
No breaking of inter-communication of apps and platforms and oses.
Another thing I would be pleased with would be to take Windows out
of their hands. They do not make money off their os but on the crap
that goes with it, thus they would still make money, but they wouldn't
be able to dick with their os to keep competitors behind the curve
or eliminate them entirely.
patrick
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: What the heck is linux doing?
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 17:46:49 GMT
Thanks for the quick and informative replies folks, as one of you pointed
out, I have this redhat6.1 on an intel machine( PII @333), so it must have
been that little endian problem. Well at least we all know now that it was
me (or intel maybe?) who was stupid, not our beloved linux..... :-)
Thanks again for all your help.
--yl
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From: Andreas Kahari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [FLAME] Re: monitoring users
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 17:50:55 GMT
In article <8d2b6s$vdj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> You know, people should really try to get all the information before
> sending flames.. A lot more people use that kind of thing than you
> obviously think. Is it better to simply watch what someone is doing
> with your corporate computer rather than filter out anything which
> might be politically incorrect? Or should the parents of a 6 year old
> not give a damn about their son watching child porn (or any porn for
> that matter) online? Or getting copies from classmates - which will
> never show up through a filter. These programs have a use, and if you
> were a little more mature and not so uncaring about how people wish to
> raise their kids you could see that. The computer is a powerful tool.
> Unfortunately, the internet is unregulated and certain people prey on
> the defensless.
>
> City
You're working for PRG? At least you're using their computers...
Now, you seem to be most concerned about your children. Do you really
think that systematic monitoring of children is the best way to raise
your kids? What about education? Didn't you do something wrong, as a
parent, when you had to come to the conclusion that you ought to install
an anti-porn filter?
What is so dangerous with your workers viewing politically incorrect
things from the web or send politically incorrect emails to eachother?
Do *you* decide what's correct and what's not?
I was in Colorado last week and going through a couple of domestic
airports on the way I realized that the American people is so used to
being pushed around and told what to do and where to go and to "watch
your step" by authorities that they probably won't care about being
watched by big brother while working.
It's just so sad.
/A
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From: "Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help, Please
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:03:29 -0700
My Red Hat 6.0 has been working fine using Gnome. All of a sudden I now
cannot access Compuserve - I can dial up and after the log on nothing
happens - It was working.
When I start Netscape, I get a message that it cannot find:
home.netscape.com
home6.netscape.com
internic.net
"This means that some or all hosts will be unreachable."
Also my printer stopped working. When I try to print nothing happens. When
I run printer tests from the printtool only "Print ASCII directly to port"
works.
When I try print ASCII test page and print postscript test page I get the
message:
error printing to queue lp error reason : lpr : connect : connection
refused jobs queued, but cannot start daemon.
Has my Gnome gone crazy or is it me? What could I have done to have caused
this?
Any help would be appreaciated.
Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy J. Lee)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: Which backup software to use?
Date: 12 Apr 2000 18:02:03 GMT
Reply-To: see-signature-for-email-address---junk-not-welcome
Peter Buzanits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
|I have a SCSI-DAT drive and look for the optimal software for making backups of
|my Linux-Box (SuSE 6.3).
|
|I have figured out that there is amanda, cpio and star. But I'm sure there are
|several other free tools out there. Can anyone recommend a special tool?
|
|Performace while backup is not the goal. It is just important to be able to
|recover any special file from the tape as quick as possible. And to be able to
|store several backups on one tape.
There's also dump/restore, which are dedicated backup tools that
should come with Linux (and similar tools come with other Unix-like
and Unix OSes, though they may be named differently, like ufsdump
on Solaris).
Storing several backups on a tape can be done by using the no-rewind
device name for the tape when specifying the device name to the backup
program.
Amanda is more of a backup manager that uses dump or GNU tar to do
the actual backup.
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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 13:04:37 -0500
From: William Brogden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
> I also admit that C was not the
> first compiled language (COBOL or FORTRAN was). It is the language
> that brought computing to the masses in a big way.
Actually, I think Borland's Turbo Pascal was the language that
brought programming to the masses. When TP came out, all of
Microsofts language packages were VERY expensive.
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WBB
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From: Patrick O'Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 12:09:18 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >
> > What "some senile hack judge decides in a courtroom" *is* reality.
> > You can refuse to accept it all you like, but courts are the
> > final arbiter, and the only one who is going to suffer from you
> > lack of acceptance is you.
>
> You're one out of three. Yes, the court may be final. They can make
> decisions and they can use force to enforce their decisions. That does
> not make their decisions economically, morally, or even legally correct.
What planet are YOU from? The court's decisions ARE the law. They are
the FINAL and ONLY interpreters of the law. Not you, not your sister,
not your neighbor. Your congressclown creates the laws, and if they
pass Constitutional muster (AS DETERMINED BY THE COURTS...NOT YOU),
they go into law and then they belong to the courts. The courts
ARE the arbitors of what is and is not the law by definition.
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