Linux-Misc Digest #128, Volume #26 Tue, 24 Oct 00 09:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Is it possible to...? (John Thompson)
Counting of user's own printings (Natacha Israel)
Re: Which Gcc version to compile Linux Kernel ? ("O.Petzold")
DeCSS (John)
Re: Partition Problem with Redhat 7.. (Anita Lewis)
talking to the printer (Guy-Armand Kamendje)
Red Hat 6.x and Apache 1.3.14 rpms - "you don't have permission to access /"
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Partition Problem with Redhat 7.. (Dave C.)
Q: Hauppauge TV without sound ("T. J. Domsalla")
Re: newbies help (Dances With Crows)
Re: Interoperability of SSH2s? (Stephen Cornell)
Re: install under /home or /usr/local (Eric)
Re: /boot/System.map and /boot/module-info (Giacomo Catenazzi)
Re: undo in dselect ? (Giacomo Catenazzi)
Re: "Deselect" Boot Framebuffer? (Giacomo Catenazzi)
Re: install under /home or /usr/local (Andreas =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=E4h=E4ri?=)
Re: accidentally changed permissions of /var - *nothing* works! (Giacomo Catenazzi)
Re: Diabolical plot uncovered... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Where are the drivers to be put in a rescue diskette (-ljl-)
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is it possible to...?
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 20:53:03 -0500
Database wrote:
> Is it possible to boot linux from a external fire wire hard drive?
Does your BIOS support an external firewire drive as a bootable
device?
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-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Natacha Israel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Counting of user's own printings
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:31:43 +0200
In a network, I do need to know how many printings (or pages) has a user
done.
It is necessary to have some restrictions.
I can't find the way to do it clean !
Could sdy help me ??
Please answer at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
THANX
Linux, there is worse but it's more expensive
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From: "O.Petzold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Which Gcc version to compile Linux Kernel ?
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 10:50:27 +0200
>
> >/tmp/ccWv6Hv5.s: Assembler messages:
> >/tmp/ccWv6Hv5.s:47: Warning: Ignoring changed section attributes for .modinfo
>
> Thanks for the info.
> But is there any connection between this
> and the fact that no modules seem to be installed,
> basically because /usr/src/linux/modules does not contain
> the names of the relevant module units as it used to.
I would say no, my module got warning but it was build so I can install this. The
above
is only a warning The gcc has an option -Werror which means handle warnings as
errors, but this is not the default behavior on the kernel tree makefiles.
Stupid question - you have a clean kernel tree (no prepatched from the
distibutor) and
using make ..config to build modules ( [M] feature ) and "loadable module
support" enabled ?
Regards,
Olaf
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From: John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: DeCSS
Date: 24 Oct 2000 17:02:29 +0800
Readers (especially those with DVD drives) might be interested in this:
http://www.ami.com.au/decss/
If you think CCA is bananas, I suggest you email them and say so.
If you think that countries don't like being dictated to by the US, AND you're
a US resident, write to your local politicians and say so. Tell 'em you're
going to vote for the other side;-) I'm sure they're extra sensitive just now.
You'd be right. Few other countries will admit that US courts have
jurisdiction in their realm.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anita Lewis)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Partition Problem with Redhat 7..
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 10:01:11 GMT
On Fri, 20 Oct 2000 13:51:55 +0100, AK wrote:
>Hello I recently installed redhat 7 on my system.
>
>My setup is as follows:
>
>Drive 1: IBM GXP 30GB
>C: 7GB
>D: 7GB
>E: 10GB
>F: 6GB
>
>Drive 2:
>/ 3GB
>/home 3GB
>swap 450 MB
>
>
>OK the problem is my D: drive disappears from DOS when my BIOS has
>the second drive installed. Drive D: appears to be garbled and you cant
>access it.. Drive E: is also serveraly affected and disappears... and
>was totally damaged... this was from a recent install of Redhat 7.
>
>When u disable the second drive from within the BIOS, drive D is OK..
>what appears to be happening is drive D: and Linux are conflicting
>some how.
>
>My processor is P2 400Mhz and my BIOS is from ZIDA.
>
>I can mount D: under linux and it does not appear garbled and I
>copied the contents over to a section of the linux disk and I am thinking
>of formatting it and then copying the contents over it again.
>
>
>How can I fix this strange problem?
I don't know, but maybe if we see the partition table it will be clearer.
Go into linux and login as root. Do:
fdisk -l > partition.table
Then post partition.table.
Anita
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From: Guy-Armand Kamendje <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: talking to the printer
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 10:12:18 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
I have a postscript capabel printer somewhere in my network sitting at
xxx.yyy.zzz. I would like to send print commands directly from the
command line to this printer without having to setup a queue for
it.Someone told me that using something like gs or the like could do the
job.
Could somebody tell me how to get it work?
Thanks Guy-A
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G.A. Kamendje || Tel +43 316 873 55 51
T-U Graz || www.sbox.tu-graz.ac.at/home/g/gaillard/
I.A.I.K ||www.iaik.at/people/gkamendje/gkamendje.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Red Hat 6.x and Apache 1.3.14 rpms - "you don't have permission to access /"
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 10:33:54 GMT
Howdy all -
Just a reminder. It seems that Red Hat still can't get their Apache
RPMs right.
After upgrading, I get the old "You don't have permission to access /"
error message.
The fix is easy. Find the line in /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf that
looks like this:
<Files ~ >
and change it so it looks like this:
<Files ~ "^\.ht">
Restart httpd by typing
/etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd restart (or for the lazy like me, just
type "service httpd restart").
That should clear up the problem.
Thomas Cameron
Red Hat Certified Engineer / TurboLinux Certified Instructor / Novell
Certified NetWare Engineer / Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer /
Microsoft Certified Trainer
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Before you buy.
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From: Dave C. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Partition Problem with Redhat 7..
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:10:24 GMT
That's not a problem with redhat . . . it is a problem with DOS. One of
two things happened:
Either you did not run DOS FDISK -on drive 2- to remove ALL partitions
before you installed Redhat, or DOS is confused, and thinks that one of your
partitions on drive 2 is a primary DOS partition.
My guess is that drive 2 used to be your (or somebody else's) Windows drive
C:, right? If you have more than one primary partition, then Windows will
label the first one on drive 1 (C:) and then the first one on drive 2 (D:).
My suggestion to fix this would be to make sure drive 2 is enabled in BIOS.
Back up any important files from your linux AND Windows installs. Now
boot to a DOS (Windows) floppy disk and run FDISK. MAKE SURE TO CHOOSE
DRIVE 2. If you see any DOS partition at all ON DRIVE 2, delete them.
-Dave
AK wrote:
> Hello I recently installed redhat 7 on my system.
>
> My setup is as follows:
>
> Drive 1: IBM GXP 30GB
> C: 7GB
> D: 7GB
> E: 10GB
> F: 6GB
>
> Drive 2:
> / 3GB
> /home 3GB
> swap 450 MB
>
>
> OK the problem is my D: drive disappears from DOS when my BIOS has
> the second drive installed. Drive D: appears to be garbled and you cant
> access it.. Drive E: is also serveraly affected and disappears... and
> was totally damaged... this was from a recent install of Redhat 7.
>
> When u disable the second drive from within the BIOS, drive D is OK..
> what appears to be happening is drive D: and Linux are conflicting
> some how.
>
> My processor is P2 400Mhz and my BIOS is from ZIDA.
>
> I can mount D: under linux and it does not appear garbled and I
> copied the contents over to a section of the linux disk and I am thinking
> of formatting it and then copying the contents over it again.
>
>
> How can I fix this strange problem?
> --
> Kila_m
> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>
--
On linuxfreemail dot com, I am user "spamfilter".
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From: "T. J. Domsalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,de.comp.os.unix.linux.hardware,de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc,de.comp.tv+video
Subject: Q: Hauppauge TV without sound
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 13:10:28 +0200
Hi,
since upgrading from kernel 2.2.xx to 2.4.0-test9=20
I don't get sound working while looking TV. It worked
fine before. Do anyone have an idea?
It doesn't work neither if I link all modules statically=20
into the kernel nor if loaded dynamically by modutils.
My system: Hauppauge WinTV/Radio /w BTTV878, Philips
PAL, Philips Tuner, MSP3400; Athlon 800; SB Live! Value;
Geforce 2 GTS; 512 MB; Kernel 2.4.0-Test9; OSS 3.9.3r
or emu10k1 module.
TJ
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: newbies help
Date: 24 Oct 2000 11:34:27 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 24 Oct 2000 01:30:05 -0000, jenaknight wrote:
>ok i admit it i was a average user with windows, but now i can't resolve
>my own messes with linux so where can i get some documets that can really
>introduce me into linux!?
http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/
http://linuxnewbie.org/
_Running Linux_ by Welsh/Dalheimer/Kaufman, ISBN 1-56592-469-X
file:/usr/doc/howto/
Read this group's FAQ, posted weekly
You're welcome.
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/ I hit a seg fault....
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From: Stephen Cornell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Interoperability of SSH2s?
Date: 24 Oct 2000 12:56:28 +0100
-ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Have 'openssh-clients-2.2.0p1-2' and 'openssh-server-2.2.0p1-2'
> installed on one machine. The other has 'ssh-2.3.0' installed,
> ssh and sshd.
>
> I generated DSA keys on both machines; but their keys have
> a radically different formats. The openssh's "id_dsa.pub"
> has a one line format. While the ssh-2.3.0 machine's is
> multi-lined.
man ssh-keygen ; in particular look at the -x, -X, -y options. Look
also at README.openssh2.
--
Stephen Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel/fax +44-1223-336644
University of Cambridge, Zoology Department, Downing Street, CAMBRIDGE CB2 3EJ
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: install under /home or /usr/local
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 14:06:33 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Andreas K�h�ri wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Anderw G. Bacchi wrote:
> >This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> >--------------77CB35184E7D3D58DB5B6C82
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >
> >Is there any opinion regarding where applications or databases are
> >installed? Is there any reason whether to install under /usr/local or
> >/home? Thanks
> >
> >A
>
> Home directories goes into "/home", locally installed software goes
> into "/usr/local". Please, *please*, read the Filesystem Hierarchy
> Standard (FHS) at <URL:http://www.pathname.com/fhs/>.
>
> /A
>
> --
> Andreas K�h�ri,
> Uppsala University, Sweden.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> Debian GNU/Linux, the choice of a GNU generation.
Although I think it's not a bad idea to install a application that you
want to try out in $HOME first. If you don't like it, it's easier to
remove, you don't need root priviliges and your normal FS structure
doesn't get cluttered with apps you don't want. After you decide you
really want an app, it should be properly installed ofcourse (ie. in
/usr/local).
Eric
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 14:10:37 +0200
From: Giacomo Catenazzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: /boot/System.map and /boot/module-info
Neil Zanella wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I have upgraded the kernel manually and from time to time I see
> some errors show up. For example my /var/log/messages has:
>
> Oct 23 11:30:24 tulip kernel: Symbol table has incorrect version number.
> Oct 23 11:30:24 tulip kernel: Cannot find map file.
>
> I would like to know what the files /boot/System.map and /boot/module-info
> are all about. Under my /boot directory (Red Hat 6.2) these are symbolic
> links to System.map-2.2.16-3 and module-info-2.2.16-3 which makes me think
> that the contents of these files depends on the kernel version and perhaps
> also on the kernel options chosen at build time. Could someone please
> provide me with some insight on the purpose of these two files?
System.map is the map of kernel (address vs symbol name). It is not
important.
ps, top and some program use it to display kernel names instaed of
address, but
it they don't find the correct symbol version they display simply
address numbers.
Thus don't worry.
And yes, it every kernel build have a different System.map: it depend of
version,
configuration and compiler.
uname -r give you the kernel version. Then symlink System.map to your
kernel.
(PS. if you compile the kernel, System.map is in
/usr/src/linux/System.map).
>
> BTW, I have a Zip 250 parallel port drive and I would like the system to
> boot without launching the kudzu menu that tells me I have inserted or
> removed the Zip drive from the computer. Is it possible to do this and
> still have the computer autodetect the Zip drive and insert the right
> module (imm.o) if necessary?
Check /etc/modules.conf and the man page of modules.conf.
I load manualy (with modprobe imm) the module, but you can add something
in
modules.conf to force to load imm if kernel try a scsi device, or force
to load
imm at boot time. (But I don't remeber how to do).
giacomo
>
> Thanks,
>
> Neil
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 14:14:41 +0200
From: Giacomo Catenazzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: undo in dselect ?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hello !
>
> I just went into dselect and since I have an "unstable" directory in my
> apt file, it downloaded quite a few files and configured them. However,
> there seems to have been a problem in some of the configuration, and now I
> don't have any access to the internet anymore. I was wondering wether
> there is a "undo" feature in dselect, allowing me to come back to my
> configuration before the last downloads ?
>
check in /var/lib/dpkg. There is a lot of status* files copy the
relevant file in status. rerun dselect...
giacomo
> Moritz
>
> --
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 14:19:31 +0200
From: Giacomo Catenazzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "Deselect" Boot Framebuffer?
Harold Stevens ** PLEASE SEE SIG ** wrote:
>
> No response after a coupla weeks in a Turbolinux newsgroup...
>
> Updated a TL 6.0 Intel install for the new 2.2.16 kernel security patches.
>
> No big deal and everything went very smoothly.
>
> However, the video mode with VC 7 (X graphical login) seems "compressed" as
> it now confines itself to about roughly half the available pixels as before
> in the center of the screen. The regular consoles are OK in that they still
> seem to use all the available pixels. Only X seems to miss these pixels. It
> also has a few annoying vertical narrow bands of "noise" which are not seen
> in regular console modes. It's all there, but compressed and a bit noisy. I
> vaguely recall seeing similar differences when running console graphic mode
> for viewers like "seejpeg" etc.
>
> This is *NOT* a virtual terminal problem. Been there, done that, and wasn't
> a problem at all with the original 6.0 install. I checked the XF86Config in
> a backup version and it is identical. Again: *NOT* virtual terminal deal. I
> did notice the boot process appears to use a slightly different font now in
> the console display, as well as initially post the Tux thumbnail on startup
> (unlike the 6.0 boot process).
>
> It seems to be something to do with framebuffers, which seem not to be used
> (or more "normally") on the older kernel (2.2.13, maybe?) from TL6.0 CD-ROM
> I used. I would like to signal the kernel at boot (and perhaps LILO) to use
> either a compatible framebuffer mode or even better, just deselect it for a
> "usual" boot and more "normal" X. The "deselect" information wasn't obvious
> to me in any of the documentation I found including the otherwise excellent
> notes at:
>
>
>http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Framebuffer-HOWTO.html#s4
>
> Video card (ATI Rage) excerpt from dmesg:
>
> atyfb: 3D RAGE (GT) [0x4754 rev 0x41] 2M SGRAM, 14.31818 MHz XTAL, 170 MHz PLL
> ,
> 67 Mhz MCLK
> Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 80x30
> fb0: ATY Mach64 frame buffer device on PCI
>
> Terminal is NEC Multisync XV17+ running in the 3 interlaced modes available
> from turboxcfg (again, working fine before this upgrade).
>
recompile kernel without framebuffer.
Framebuffer are not need in X (on the i386+ arch.).
It solved my problems with fb/X.
giacomo
> --
>
> Regards, Weird (Harold Stevens) * IMPORTANT EMAIL INFO FOLLOWS *
> Pardon the bogus email domain (dseg etc.) in place for spambots.
> Really it's (wyrd) at raytheon, dotted with com. DO NOT SPAM IT.
> Standard Disclaimer: These are my opinions not Raytheon Company.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=E4h=E4ri?=)
Subject: Re: install under /home or /usr/local
Date: 24 Oct 2000 14:21:10 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Eric wrote:
>Andreas K�h�ri wrote:
[cut]
>> Home directories goes into "/home", locally installed software goes
>> into "/usr/local". Please, *please*, read the Filesystem Hierarchy
>> Standard (FHS) at <URL:http://www.pathname.com/fhs/>.
>>
>> /A
>
>Although I think it's not a bad idea to install a application that you
>want to try out in $HOME first. If you don't like it, it's easier to
>remove, you don't need root priviliges and your normal FS structure
>doesn't get cluttered with apps you don't want. After you decide you
>really want an app, it should be properly installed ofcourse (ie. in
>/usr/local).
>
>Eric
...using e.g. the GNU tool 'stow' for easy un-installation. Get 'stow'
from <URL:ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/stow/>.
/A
ps: GNU FTP mirrors are at <URL:http://www.gnu.org/order/ftp.html>.
--
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========================================================================
"If you leave now, you're going to miss the real experience."
-- Richard M. Stallman, Stockholm 1986. Visit www.gnu.org
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 14:23:30 +0200
From: Giacomo Catenazzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: accidentally changed permissions of /var - *nothing* works!
Jonathan C Busey wrote:
>
> I ran chmod -R 755 . from the wrong xterm (as root, naturally) and
> screwed up:
> man pages
> lpd/lprng (I've reinstalled both but can't get either to work anymore)
> exim/procmail
> probably syslogd, but haven't seen signs of it yet.
> I'm running debian, so, after comparing permissions to match my laptop
> (which didn't work), I just purged and reinstalled the following:
> lprng, magicfilter, exim, anacron, at, biff, cron, logrotate,
> metamail, procmail and procmail-lib, mailx, nmh.
> I thought that would fix everything, since /var was just about empty,
> but when fetchmail tried to place things in my spool/mail directory,
> it failed.
> I got man to work by changing /var/cache to 755 and g+s on cache/man,
> but opening my in with mh-e still says either:
> inc: unable to lock and fopen /var/spool/mail/busey
> with permissions of /var/spool/mail/busey 660 (busey.mail owner/group)
> or I can read the messages but not delete them with unsafe
> permissions.
> What should I change things to?
> I'm ready to repurge everything, set /var as it should be, then
> reinstall packages if necessary.
> Any help or directions of where to look further would be appreciated!
> Jon
>
If your box is connected to the net (and you don't use telnetd,....)
chmod -R 777 /var
else try to get another working machine with your distribution and copy
the
permisions (ls -lR /var) and manually change your permision....
giacomo
> --
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Diabolical plot uncovered...
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:41:05 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 10/22/00
at 05:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows) said:
>This sort of thing happens to lots of people. I avoided that
>particular problem ("Unix is always, *always* case-sensitive")
>but it took me several months to realize that "Ctrl-Alt-Plus"
>for switching screen resolutions in X meant "Ctrl-Alt-(Keypad
>+)".
Is there a support group for dyslexic linux users?
<g>?
F.
===========================================================
Felmon John Davis
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Union College / Schenectady, NY
os/2 - ma kauft koi katz em sack
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From: -ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Where are the drivers to be put in a rescue diskette
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:46:58 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ezio PAGLIA) wrote:
> >Does your version of RH have "mkbootdisk", this should do the trick.
> >I am assuming you are using a SCSI tape device (/dev/st0). This
> >requires support for scsi_mod, st, and your SCSI adapter; either
> >built-in or as loadable modules. See "man bootdisk". After booting
> >you can see if your drive is detected by using "dmesg | less".
>
> Thank you Louis and guru's, but what happens if you use the mkbootdisk
> diskette and your hd is crashed ?
If you created a bootdisk utilizing a crashed source (e.g. HD)
the bootdisk may be corrupt. There is no _sure_ answer to this
kind of question.
> Another question : following your advices we succeeded in seeing the
> tape working from the rescue diskette. Nevertheless we have troubles
> in seeing the disk array. Do you know an obvious way to see all the
> modules related to it ? Practically, from lsmod I see :
...
Well you have overcome the first obstacle. I have no experience
with disk-arrays; but suggest reading the following documentation:
man modeprobe
man depmod
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/modules.txt
/lib/modules/KERNEL-VERSION/modules.dep
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