Linux-Misc Digest #135, Volume #24 Thu, 13 Apr 00 05:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: RPM problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
verifying that linux has detected two processors ("rem")
Re: verifying that linux has detected two processors ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Athlon and Linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Windows speaks - gently (Jim Cochrane)
Re: Cheap/Free alternatives to Hummingbird eXceed (Koos Pol)
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (David Steuber)
Re: pthreads for linux (newbie) (Andreas Kahari)
Re: default desktop in RedHat ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: What "read EXT2 from win98" programs work? (Mike Van Pelt)
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Closing One of Multiple Windows Crashes Netscape (Rick)
Re: Postgresql installation error (jb)
Diskless-PC does not boot Linux via 3c905c NIC :-( (Joerg Lippmann)
Re: encrypted password?? ("Jason Byrne")
Re: monitoring users (Peter Kerr)
Re: Closing One of Multiple Windows Crashes Netscape (cll)
Re: Bootdisks, rdev, and root filesystems...aargh! (Anders Larsen)
Re: Closing One of Multiple Windows Crashes Netscape (Andras)
Re: Something better than xanim (J Bland)
Re: gated/routed/f#ckd ("R�M$T@R")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RPM problem
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 05:12:46 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
=?iso-8859-1?Q?Beno=EEt?= Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I use Slackware 7.0. I recently tried to install RPM packages, but
then
> I received the 'failed dependencies' Message Of Fate... yet some of
the
> concerned libraries are present in my system (directories: /lib,
> /usr/lib, /usr/X11R6/lib) ! Could someone explain the reason for this
?
> Thanks in advance for any answer.
>
> Beno�t Smith
> Just A Rhyme Without A Reason
>
Here's how it was explained to me today. If my rendition is incorrect,
it's probably because I'm not yet a linux guru and something got lost in
the translation.
When an object was installed by means of an RPM package, information
about the object is maintained by the package manager for future
reference. If a future package installation requires the object, the
package manager has a record of it and it will not drop out as a
dependency.
If an object was installed by some other means, however, information
about the object is not available to the package manager. If a future
package installation requires the object, the package manager has no
record of it and it will drop out as a missing dependency.
So when an object exists on your machine yet still shows up as a missing
dependency, the object wasn't originally installed as part of an RPM
package.
This may explain it, but doesn't make it more comfortable to deal with!
Ed Eriksen
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Before you buy.
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From: "rem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: verifying that linux has detected two processors
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 13:40:16 +0800
how to verify that linux has detected that i am two processors in a dual
processor motherboard, and how to verify that 256MB of memory is detected by
linux. i am using Slackware 7.0
thanks
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: verifying that linux has detected two processors
Date: 13 Apr 2000 05:42:57 GMT
rem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: how to verify that linux has detected that i am two processors in a dual
: processor motherboard, and how to verify that 256MB of memory is detected by
cat /proc/cpuinfo
man free. Or cat /proc/meminfo
: linux. i am using Slackware 7.0
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Athlon and Linux?
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 00:48:06 -0500
I have an athlon 500 with a Geforce SDR card and it works fine running
Mandrake 7.0-2. Don't notice any speed detriments..
Geforce SDR is overkill, I know- Voodoo 3 2000 is a good buy for US$99 or
so.
(at least I saw one for $99 at CompUSA a couple of weeks ago)
Aaron Walker wrote:
> I am thinking about buying an Athlon 700 and was wondering how it worked
> with Linux. Right now I am running RH on an AMD K6-2 233 and it runs
> perfect, but a friend of mine said it ran kinda slow with his Athlon
> 600, so I wanted to get others' opinions also.
>
> Also, I need to get a new AGP video card to go with that Athlon and was
> wondering which kind works good with Linux and is a good card.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Cochrane)
Subject: Re: Windows speaks - gently
Date: 12 Apr 2000 23:58:42 -0600
Very nice!
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In Japan, Sony Vaio Machines have replaced the impersonal and unhelpful
>Microsoft Windows error messages with their own Japanese haiku poetry,
>each only 17 syllables.
>------------------------
>A file that big?
>It might be very useful.
>But now it is gone.
>------------------------
>The Web site you seek
>Can not be located but
>Countless more exist.
>------------------------
>Chaos reigns within.
>Reflect, repent, and reboot.
>Order shall return.
>------------------------
>ABORTED effort:
>Close all that you have worked on.
>You ask way too much.
>------------------------
>Windows 98 crashed.
>I am the Blue Screen of Death.
>No one hears your screams.
>------------------------
>Yesterday it worked.
>Today it is not working.
>Windows is like that.
>------------------------
>First snow, then silence.
>This thousand dollar screen dies
>So beautifully.
>------------------------
>With searching comes loss
>And the presence of absence:
>"My Novel" not found.
>------------------------
>The Tao that is seen
>Is not the true Tao, until
>You bring fresh toner.
>------------------------
>Stay the patient course.
>Of little worth is your ire.
>The network is down.
>------------------------
>A crash reduces
>Your expensive computer
>To a simple stone.
>------------------------
>Three things are certain:
>Death, taxes, and lost data.
>Guess which has occurred.
>------------------------
>You step in the stream,
>But the water has moved on.
>This page is not here.
>------------------------
>Out of memory.
>We wish to hold the whole sky,
>But we never will.
>------------------------
>Having been erased,
>The document you're seeking
>Must now be retyped.
>------------------------
>Serious error.
>All shortcuts have disappeared.
>Screen. Mind. Both are blank.
>
--
Jim Cochrane
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Koos Pol)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development
Subject: Re: Cheap/Free alternatives to Hummingbird eXceed
Date: 13 Apr 2000 06:28:08 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 11 Apr 2000 13:11:51 -0700, Janet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|
| There is also an X server from Microimages which works pretty well also
| (and is faster than VNC):
| http://www.microimages.com/freestuf/mix/index.htm
|
We ditched it in favor of VNC because we had the odd crash rather
regularly...
Koos Pol
======================================================================
S.C. Pol - Systems Administrator - Compuware Europe B.V. - Amsterdam
T:+31 20 3116122 F:+31 20 3116200 E:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Check my email address when you hit "Reply".
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Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 07:00:01 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
' I want to use Chapter 13 of Robert Barry's book, Crackpot Economics, when
' I teach my Econ 101 class. Robert Barry's publisher says "we're not going
' to sell you just chapter 13, you have to buy the whole damn book." How is
' that different than what you claim Microsoft is doing?
With logic like that, this argument has to be declared over. One
might as well argue with a particularly stubborn rock.
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member | a hoploholic.
http://www.packetphone.org/
"I haven't lost my mind -- it's backed up on tape somewhere."
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From: Andreas Kahari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: pthreads for linux (newbie)
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 06:49:17 GMT
Please read the "Linux Threads Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)" at
<URL:http://www.linuxdoc.org/FAQ/Threads-FAQ/>.
/A
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
GuinessIsGoodForYou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have used pthreads on Solaris and HP-UX and would like to use them
> on Linux.
>
> Where can I get a pthread implementation for Linux?
>
> I have the Mandrake 7 distribution. Is it on the CD-ROM?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
--
# Andreas K�h�ri, <URL:http://hello.to/andkaha/>.
# All junk email is reported to the appropriate authorities.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: default desktop in RedHat
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 07:21:33 GMT
>
> If you're running KDE or GNOME, all you have to do is to use
> switchdesk.
I wonder how one is supposed to find out things like this. I tried
"apropos desktop" (RedHat 6.0 badly patched (I'm not sysadmin, the
sysadmin knows even less about linux than I do)) and it didn't tell me
about "switchdesk"
Thanks
Wroot
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Van Pelt)
Subject: Re: What "read EXT2 from win98" programs work?
Date: 13 Apr 2000 07:35:02 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Dances With Crows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 12 Apr 2000 07:29:24 GMT, Mike Van Pelt shouted forth into the ether:
>>What programs to read EXT2 from (pardon the expression)
>>"Windows 98" have people had success with?
>
>explore2fs.
>http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm
Thanks! That's at least a couple of steps closer.
explore2fs finds the Linux disk and partitions, which is more
than the other programs did, and the file names at the top
level. But directories other than /boot and /lost+found are
"unknown file type", so I can't go into them.
Their web page says "May not work with Partition Magic."
Guess what I used to shrink the WIn98 partition to make
room for Linux ... *sigh*
(Which turned out to be wasted effort anyway, since it's a UDMA66
disk. If I'd known the current version of Linux didn't support
UDMA66, I'd just have installed the non-UDMA66 6GB disk for Linux
first place and never bothered with Partition Magic.)
--
Yes, I am the last man to have walked on the moon, | Mike Van Pelt
and that's a very dubious and disappointing honor. | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It's been far too long. -- Gene Cernan | KE6BVH
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Reply-To: <btolder>
From: <btolder>
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 00:35:13 -0700
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Matt Kennel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> Cheap PC's come from Moore's law. Case Closed.
Moore's law is not free or a law of the universe like gravity. It is driven
by intense competition. If there were zero demand for complex ICs, Moore's
law would have failed and we'd all have stayed at 0.6u processes since
nobody would pay the money to develop new tools to shrink the die and half
the price of the silicon.
> I will thank the thousands of anonymous physicists, electrical engineers
> material scientists and chemists who have worked vigorously over the
> last two decades to advance all aspects of semiconductor design.
Indeed. And if there weren't 100M desktop PCs being sold every year,
companies like Intel wouldn't have teams 1000's working on next gen process
technology.
> The essential hardware technology has been quietly revolutionized many
> times since 1980. I don't think people realize how much new effort
> and new discovery and new invention is required to continue the
> seemingly inevitable Moore curve.
I do :) But I don't think you appreciate the demand that a easy-to-use and
inexpensive OS has produced.
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From: Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Closing One of Multiple Windows Crashes Netscape
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 06:30:18 GMT
I typically surf with multiple (half dozen or more) Netscape windows open,
switching back and forth between them. Often, when I close ONE window,
they ALL close. Does anyone know of a fix that falls somewhere short of me
having to change my surfing habits?
OS: Linux-Mandrake 6.0
Netscape: Communicator 4.6
PC: Dell Dimension XPS R400 (PII, 128 PC-100 RAM)
As I write this, I have 1 Konsole and 7 Netscape windows open. free
reports memory usage as:
total 127924
used 102996
free 24928
shared 57156
buffers 5444
cached 46472
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From: jb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Postgresql installation error
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 06:30:15 GMT
Let's have more details: Please what make and version of Linux. What
hardware.
RCS wrote:
>
>
> Hello, I downloaded postgresql-6.5.3.tar.gz, gunzipped it and followed
the
> installation
>
> instructions ( in install).
>
> I'm doing a fresh installation of Postgresql.
>
> After starting gmake:
>
> $ gmake all > make.log 2>&1 &
>
> $ tail -f make.log
>
> everything went fine, until these error messages:
>
> gmake[3]: Entering directory
> `/usr/src/pgsql/postgresql-6.5.3/src/backend/storage/buffer'
>
> gmake[3]: *** No rule to make target `page/SUBSYS.o'. Stop.
>
> gmake[3]: Leaving directory
> `/usr/src/pgsql/postgresql-6.5.3/src/backend/storage/buffer'
>
> gmake[3]: Entering directory
> `/usr/src/pgsql/postgresql-6.5.3/src/backend/storage/file'
>
> gmake[3]: *** No rule to make target `page/SUBSYS.o'. Stop.
>
> gmake[3]: Leaving directory
> `/usr/src/pgsql/postgresql-6.5.3/src/backend/storage/file'
>
> gmake[3]: Entering directory
> `/usr/src/pgsql/postgresql-6.5.3/src/backend/storage/ipc'
>
> gmake[3]: *** No rule to make target `page/SUBSYS.o'. Stop.
>
> gmake[3]: Leaving directory
> `/usr/src/pgsql/postgresql-6.5.3/src/backend/storage/ipc'
>
> gmake[3]: Entering directory
> `/usr/src/pgsql/postgresql-6.5.3/src/backend/storage/large_object'
>
> gmake[3]: *** No rule to make target `page/SUBSYS.o'. Stop.
>
> gmake[3]: Leaving directory
> `/usr/src/pgsql/postgresql-6.5.3/src/backend/storage/large_object'
>
> gmake[3]: Entering directory
> `/usr/src/pgsql/postgresql-6.5.3/src/backend/storage/lmgr'
>
> gmake[3]: *** No rule to make target `page/SUBSYS.o'. Stop.
>
> gmake[3]: Leaving directory
> `/usr/src/pgsql/postgresql-6.5.3/src/backend/storage/lmgr'
>
> gmake[3]: Entering directory
> `/usr/src/pgsql/postgresql-6.5.3/src/backend/storage/page'
>
> gmake[3]: *** No rule to make target `page/SUBSYS.o'. Stop.
>
> gmake[3]: Leaving directory
> `/usr/src/pgsql/postgresql-6.5.3/src/backend/storage/page'
>
> gmake[3]: Entering directory
> `/usr/src/pgsql/postgresql-6.5.3/src/backend/storage/smgr'
>
> gmake[3]: *** No rule to make target `page/SUBSYS.o'. Stop.
>
> gmake[3]: Leaving directory
> `/usr/src/pgsql/postgresql-6.5.3/src/backend/storage/smgr'
>
> gmake[2]: *** [page/SUBSYS.o] Error 2
>
> gmake[2]: Leaving directory
> `/usr/src/pgsql/postgresql-6.5.3/src/backend/storage'
>
> gmake[1]: *** [storage.dir] Error 2
>
> gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/pgsql/postgresql-6.5.3/src/backend'
>
> gmake: *** [all] Error 2
>
> And the installation procedure was stopped.
> What could be missing? I'm installing this on a Mandrake 7.0
distribution.
>
> Any comments/help greatly appreciated!
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Rolf C Stadheim
>
>
>
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From: Joerg Lippmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Diskless-PC does not boot Linux via 3c905c NIC :-(
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 09:45:36 +0200
Hi there!
I tried building up a Diskless Station using the tools from LTSP, but the
client won�t boot.
In detail:
The client (a PC with a 3c905 NIC) received its IP-address using DHCP
and started loading the kernel (vmlinuz.3c905) printing dots but it didn�t
start. In verbose mode, the screen shows some garbled characters after loading
and then stops.
I then tried loading a DOS-bootimage, made with the tools that came
with the 3Com-NIC and booting worked flawlessly. But that's only DOS :-(
The DOS-image had the same position and permissions as the
vmlinuz.3c905-kernel, so I assume that everything associated with DHCP
and tftp is working correctly.
I also tried making a new kernel-Image using the mknbi-tool from
etherboot, same - negative - result.
Any suggestions? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
J�rg
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From: "Jason Byrne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: encrypted password??
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 01:01:51 -0700
Check out htpasswd...
Calvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8d3i0r$r83$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
> I am configurating apache to protect some files in one of my
directory.
> Then i add the following lines in the .htaccess file.
>
> AuthName someuser
> AuthType Basic
> AuthUserFile /somewhere/passwd
> require valid-user
>
> As the file /somewhere/passwd need a user name and a encrypted
password
> separated by a ':'. I just don't know how to get the encrypted password.
If
> i just type in the password straight forward into the file, it doesn't
work.
>
> Best regards
> Calvin
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Kerr)
Subject: Re: monitoring users
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 19:36:29 +1200
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In article <8d26p9$q1u$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >Is there any software for linux that will monitor users?
>
> Turn on process accounting.
> man accton
> man sa
Depends what he wants to use it for
(see unfortunate parallel flame thread)
The Windoze app mentioned is used by our Sysadmins for training and
troubleshooting users of networked apps.
--
Peter Kerr proficiency in vi
School of Music is a sign of a
University of Auckland mis-spent youth
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From: cll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Closing One of Multiple Windows Crashes Netscape
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 20:12:39 +1200
Rick wrote:
>
> I typically surf with multiple (half dozen or more) Netscape windows open,
> switching back and forth between them. Often, when I close ONE window,
> they ALL close. Does anyone know of a fix that falls somewhere short of me
> having to change my surfing habits?
>
> OS: Linux-Mandrake 6.0
> Netscape: Communicator 4.6
> PC: Dell Dimension XPS R400 (PII, 128 PC-100 RAM)
>
> As I write this, I have 1 Konsole and 7 Netscape windows open. free
> reports memory usage as:
> total 127924
> used 102996
> free 24928
> shared 57156
> buffers 5444
> cached 46472
>
This seems to happen with Netscape -- as far as I can see randomly, and
with no rhyme or reason.
When it happens to me I just fire Netscape back up, and use the
Communicator->Tools->History menu item to get back rapidly to where I
was.
Unfortunately, Kfm also can exhibit this behaviour, with the added
disadvantage that I can't find the history in it :=(
--
Never trust a man in a suit --
cll
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From: Anders Larsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Bootdisks, rdev, and root filesystems...aargh!
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 09:49:48 +0200
bob smith wrote:
>
> Take a look at this how-to, linux from scratch how-to, found at:
> http://www.linuxdocs.org/LDP/LGissue49/misc/beekmans/LFS-HOWTO.html
> Really great.
Not that great, after all.
"DNS: Domain 'www.linuxdocs.org' is invalid: Host not found (authoritative)."
--
Anders Larsen
e-mail: alarsen AT baumerident DOT com
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From: Andras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Closing One of Multiple Windows Crashes Netscape
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 08:30:05 +0000
Rick wrote:
>
> I typically surf with multiple (half dozen or more) Netscape windows open,
> switching back and forth between them. Often, when I close ONE window,
> they ALL close. Does anyone know of a fix that falls somewhere short of me
> having to change my surfing habits?
Yes, it is called Netscape 3.04
the even versions of netscape are all useless.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J Bland)
Subject: Re: Something better than xanim
Date: 13 Apr 2000 08:52:43 GMT
On 12 Apr 2000 19:35:50 -0700, Harry Putnam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>What apps are available for viewing .mpg or .avi files that works
>better than xanim?
for mpg MpegTV (www.mpegtv.com iirc) is great.
For other stuff, make sure you've downloaded all the extra modules for
xanim.
JB
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From: "R�M$T@R" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: gated/routed/f#ckd
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 10:16:44 +0100
I'm not too sure what NAT software is, but I do know that the Win98 machines
all have a peice of software that allow them to connect to the NT box
through 'Microsoft Winsock Proxy Client'. If this is any help...
Many thanks,
Remy.
Tom Eastep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> There's nothing wrong with your Linux routing configuration -- are you
> running some sort of NAT software in your NT box?
>
> -Tom
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