Linux-Misc Digest #135, Volume #25 Fri, 14 Jul 00 23:13:02 EDT
Contents:
How to setup dialup account in Corel Linux?? (Halwapuri)
Re: PPP Connection Problems (Justo M. Casablanca)
Re: Problem with a Maxtor 40Gb drive (The Darkener)
Re: How do I uncompress .tar.bz2? (J Bland)
Re: File Description under Apache 1.3.x (ljb)
Printing to HP Jet Direct boxes (Steve)
Re: Application required - Word Processor ("Mike Webb")
Diff between tty1 and ttyS1 (Pjtg0707)
Web Serving from the kitchen (Hal Burgiss)
Re: Application required - Word Processor (Marshall Price)
Re: Diff between tty1 and ttyS1 (Andrew Purugganan)
Re: Very dumb question! WooHoo! =) (Mary P)
Re: E-mail program ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
controlling (shell) beeping (was Re: Very dumb question! WooHoo! =)) (Paul Kimoto)
Re: Nebie question on mounting a dos partition (Mike Misiewicz)
Re: Installing Kernel ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Editing X program colors? (-~=Darek M=~-)
Re: Are there substantially more/less RPMs for RH or SuSE? (blowfish)
Re: Are there substantially more/less RPMs for RH or SuSE? (Stewart Honsberger)
Re: Are there substantially more/less RPMs for RH or SuSE? (blowfish)
Re: Are there substantially more/less RPMs for RH or SuSE? (blowfish)
Re: Standard out (Dave Brown)
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From: Halwapuri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to setup dialup account in Corel Linux??
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 23:30:07 GMT
Hi,
I recently installed corel linux on my machine. I tried to configure the
dial up utility that came along with it but with no success. I used the
DNS numbers provided by my isp. The utility recognizes the modem. But,
when it dials in, it just gives a modem initializing message...and thats
it. Why??
Please help if u know how to setup or if i am doing something wrong. my
modem is com port 2 in windows.
Thanks in advance.
Hal
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From: Justo M. Casablanca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PPP Connection Problems
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 23:30:09 GMT
Thank you Bill ! These 2 suggestions fixed the problem ! If you don't
mind, I would like to ask WorldShare.Net to post these problems and their
corresponding solutions on their Linux FAQ. Several of their Linux users,
I understand, are experiencing these same problems.
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From: The Darkener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem with a Maxtor 40Gb drive
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 23:33:22 GMT
Not an expert, but I think the following is correct! =)
Is the boot partition below cylinder 1024? This is a restraint in lilo
for big hard drives. If your Windows partition crosses the 1024cyl.
border, you're gonna have to either nuke it or move it with a util. like
Partition Magic. Ideally (with big drives that require a /boot partition)
you should make this your FIRST partition (to make sure it doesn't cross
the 1024 cylinder limit) and make your others after. You really don't
need that much space on your /boot partition, I think my old RedHat 5.1
manual said something about not needing more than 10 megs (even this is
supposed to be generously given). If you can, back up your Windows
partition then nuke it and try putting the /boot partition first.
Good luck!
Bertrand Sirodot wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have tried to install RedHat 6.2 on my PC at home and I am running
> into some kind of problem with my hard disk. No matter what size I
> allocated to the /boot partition it always fails to allocate the
> partition due to "boot partition too big". I have tried all sizes for
> the boot partition down to 8Mg and no joy. The disk is an IDE Maxtor
> 40Gb - I also have Win98 Second Edition installed on this system.
>
> Any help greatly appreciated.
>
> Cheers.
> Bertrand.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J Bland)
Subject: Re: How do I uncompress .tar.bz2?
Date: 14 Jul 2000 23:29:03 GMT
>: if you are using redhat (which uses a newer version of GNU tar), use:
>: tar -xfI filename.tar.bz2
>
>: if you are using slackware, use:
>: tar -xfy filename.tar.bz2
>
>And whichever he cares to use, try
>
> bunzip2 < filename.tar.bz2 | tar -xf -
cat filename.tar.bz2 | bunzip2 | tar -xf -
is a little easier to follow; send through pipes the bzip2 compressed
archive to bunzip2 which decompresses it and pipes it to tar to unarchive it.
As this is c.o.l.misc I think we can be forgiven for assuming the use of a
distribution with GNU tools and so
tar xvIf filename.tar.bz2
should suffice. It's all very well saying "Not all unices do this" but
come on, this is a *linux* newsgroup. Surely here we can rely on a newbie
having modern linux file utils etc and then offer more complex solutions for
other unices after that.
Frinky
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ljb)
Subject: Re: File Description under Apache 1.3.x
Date: 14 Jul 2000 23:42:40 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I have an intranet site where we are posting common/useful files among
>other things.
>
>I am trying to fill the last part of the listing where the Description can
>be given ....
>
>Could anyone give me an example how to do this ....
>
>For the record, the server is running Linux (2.0.38 for the moment) and
>Apache 1.3.9 ....
>
>What I am trying to do is to lessen my phone calls for helping our staff
>with question like which file do I donwload for ..... ????
You can use the Apache directive "AddDescription" in httpd.conf to
add a short description, based on the file extension, or the filename.
For example: AddDescription "GZIP compressed document" .gz
will put "GZIP compressed document" next to all *.gz files.
You can also add descriptions for individual files, but to me this is
useless because you have to edit the httpd.conf file and restart Apache
whenever it changes. You are better off creating your own directory
index in index.html.
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From: Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Printing to HP Jet Direct boxes
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 18:45:59 -0500
I'm using Slakware and Redhat printing to HP Jet Direct cards. The
Redhat 6.1 prints without the banner page ( feature wanted) and the
Slakware 4.0 prints a banner page. Using the same /etc/printcap file on
both machines. Both print ok, but the Slakware banner page is a bit of a
nuisance. Anyone know where the banner flag is set at in Slakware?
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From: "Mike Webb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Application required - Word Processor
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 19:22:00 -0500
Reply-To: Mike Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> From: "Andrew Onifer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 10 Jul 2000 18:00:21 GMT
> On Mon, 10 Jul 2000 13:29:38 -0400, Richard Slobod
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >"Barns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>I dusted off my 386 20 mhz which had been minus a screen for 5 years.
> >>I just want to use it for word processing. Is there a freeware word
> >>processing package available. My machine has Linux 1.2.1 and MSDOS 6.22.
> >Microsoft Word for DOS 5.5 is available directly from Microsoft's
> >website:
>
> This is just an update for Word for DOS 5.0 users. I doubt it will run by
> itself (unless you have Word for DOS 5.0).
The Word 5.5/DOS package is the full beast; it's not a patch. I've used 5.5
(the first MS Word with pull-down menus) and 6.0 for DOS; they're decent word
processors.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pjtg0707)
Subject: Diff between tty1 and ttyS1
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 23:50:19 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am wondering the difference bwteeen tty1 and ttyS1.
I am going to connect a Wyse 50 ascii terminal to a Linux box, and
I am wondering which one to use.
:wq
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Web Serving from the kitchen
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 23:51:06 GMT
I guess this is qualifies as 'misc':
http://world.std.com/~fwhite/spud/index.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marshall Price)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: Re: Application required - Word Processor
Date: 14 Jul 2000 23:53:38 GMT
Barns wrote:
: I dusted off my 386 20 mhz which had been minus a screen for 5 years.
: I just want to use it for word processing. Is there a freeware word
: processing package available.
I have a relatively sophisticated computer, but I managed to eliminate
Win95 (it wasn't easy) and am now running strictly DOS. I played with
Win 3.11 a bit, but didn't like it.
For word processing, I recommend Symphony, which I recently saw offered
for free (and downloaded, just to compare it with my own). It was
originally a very expensive and highly touted package containing five
"environments": DOC, SHEET, FORM (database), GRAPH, and COMM. The last
two, unless they've been updated since my version, are rather old and
useless. However this entire program is incredibly flexible, can be
automated in many ways (it encludes a quite capable and simple
programming language "Symphony Command Language"), and has a lot going
for it, including its size: less than 100 KB, IIRC. If you permit EMM386
to supply it with expanded memory, it is capable of putting vast amounts
of it to good use.
For ordinary editing, I usually use "PEDIT," the Programmers Editor,
which is very much like MS-DOS's EDIT, but contains a few nice features,
particularly the abilities to check spelling (which Symphony does, too)
and wrap words. Furthermore, the author gives his e-mail address and
asks for your comments and suggestions.
For generally seeing the contents of directories, navigating among my
disks and files, viewing graphics, etc., Vernon Buerg's LIST ("Plus"),
which you may use for non-commercial use, can't be beat. I couldn't live
without it -- nor MS-DOS's DOSKEY, and MODE -- the command for speeding
up my key repeat rate to the max and reducing the delay to the minimum.
I'm very fond of my Dvorak keyboard layout, of course, and have
recently installed the latest version of Arachne, the web browser for
DOS, which is free at its present stage of development (which appears
pretty good!). However, it's not small, and wants lots of RAM,
preferably 4-8 MB. The other programs I mentioned are tiny.
There are a few very tiny utilities I find useful, one of which,
"PRN2FILE," redirects anything intended for the printer to a disk file
instead. I use it online a lot, to download text and e-mail.
As I said, this is an old, but rather sophisticated computer, but most
of the advice I've given is equally suitable for the original IBM PC, and
in fact, will do quite nicely with only one floppy drive and no hard drive
at all. (It's safer that way, too. No chance of virus infection!)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Re: Diff between tty1 and ttyS1
Date: 15 Jul 2000 00:37:23 GMT
Pjtg0707 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
[ I am wondering the difference bwteeen tty1 and ttyS1.
[ I am going to connect a Wyse 50 ascii terminal to a Linux box, and
[ I am wondering which one to use.
i used a serial port to set up a notebook PC with my Lin box. Serial
ports go by ttyS0, ttyS1, ttyS2. Chances are, if u log in to your Lin
box, that's tty1
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mary P)
Subject: Re: Very dumb question! WooHoo! =)
Date: 15 Jul 2000 01:52:47 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 14 Jul 2000 15:03:50 -0700, The Darkener
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> gave us this gift:
>Just installed Debian Slink on my laptop . . .
> . . . every time I either 1) hit backspace too many
>times, or 2) hit tab to finish a command/filename when there's more than
>one filename to choose from, the stupid pc speeker goes "BEEP!" It's
>pretty annoying. =p~ So, is this a key binding in Linux, or is it a
>laptop thing?
I don't know about Debian but on my RH system
it's xset -b [details]
Try man xset. You can change volume, pitch, and duration,
or turn it off altogether.
HTH
MP
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: E-mail program
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 02:41:13 +0100
The Darkener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> Pine rocks.
s/rock/suck/
Elm on the other hand...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: controlling (shell) beeping (was Re: Very dumb question! WooHoo! =))
Date: 14 Jul 2000 22:09:56 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, The Darkener wrote:
> I know this will be an easy-answer,
(It will?)
> but I just can't find anything on it.
>
> Just installed Debian Slink on my laptop. Getting everything configured
> the way I want, things are going pretty good so far. Only thing is,
> (very, very annoying) every time I either 1) hit backspace too many
> times, or 2) hit tab to finish a command/filename when there's more than
> one filename to choose from, the stupid pc speeker goes "BEEP!" It's
> pretty annoying. =p~ So, is this a key binding in Linux
These particular beeps are issued by bash (or more precisely, its
"readline" component). The bash(1) man page indicates that you should be
able to customize this; look for the string "bell" in the section "Readline
Variables".
(If you use zsh(1) instead, you should search the man page for the string
"beep" to see how to customize it. By the way, it appears that by default
zsh does not beep upon hitting backspace too many times.
Also, if you want to affect other incidences of beeping as well, you may
want to investigate how to control the beep more generally, such as the
xset(1x) approach mentioned by Mary P. Of course, xset(1x) works only
under X.)
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From: Mike Misiewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Nebie question on mounting a dos partition
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 02:30:03 GMT
Thank you ver much both of you. (not sarcasm). I hope that now I will be
able to get what I need! thank you!
Kevin Vandersloot wrote:
>
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Mike Misiewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have a 13 gig (apx) linux partition and a
> > 500 mb windows partiton. I
> > would like to mount the windows partition,
> > however I cannot seem todo this. Mount say that
> > it cannot find "dos" or "vfat" in /etc/fstab or
> > /etc/mtab. I am not sure If i havethe syntax
> > right, I type
> >
> > #mount dos
> > or
> >
> > #mount vfat
>
> 'mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/win'
> In this case you would have to create the
> directory /mnt/win ,but you could call it whatever
> you want. See 'man fstab' so you could add a line
> for your windows partition to /etc/fstab. Now your
> windows partition will be in /mnt/win.
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Installing Kernel
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 02:31:07 GMT
Chip Sparks wrote:
> I am using RedHat 6.2 with Kernel 2.2.14-5 and I have a driver that
> requires Kernel 2.2.15. To that end I am trying (unsuccessfully) to
> update my Kernel. I have gone through the procedure of downloading and
> compiling the Kernel, but when I boot with the new Kernel, my devices
> aren't installed. I can't access my floppy drive or my ethernet card.
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks;
>
> Chip Sparks
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't generally recommend this, but we've done this recently and have
had no problems. There's an RPM that will update you to 2.2.16 (your
driver should be fine) that you can get from the updates directory on any
Red Hat FTP mirror. That should get you by just fine ;)
-Kara
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Subject: Editing X program colors?
From: -~=Darek M=~- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 19:33:29 -0700
How does one edit the gray windows and scrollbars in X
applications? I am running BlackBox so its not as simple as in
KDE for example. No tool to do that.
By gray parts I mean, for example, when you open up Netscape or
XChat, the scroll bars are grey, and the parts with File Edit,
etc are black text on grey background.
How would I change the color of those parts and the text?
Thans for any pointers, or links.
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Subject: Re: Are there substantially more/less RPMs for RH or SuSE?
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 19:38:43 -0700
Jerome Mrozak wrote:
>
> I'm choosing between distros and would like to NOT be stuck with a
> distro that can't find the "latest and greatest" software, such as Gnome
> updates, KDE updates, editors.
>
> Being in the USA, I hear the most about RH and Mandrake. But when all
> is counted, what % of RPMs will work on both RH and SuSE, what % for RH
> and not SuSE, and what % for SuSE and not RH?
>
> A demanding question, perhaps. And I thank _very_much_ anyone who
> chooses to answer it.
>
> Jerome.
> --
> Jerome Mrozak "Never buy a dog and bark for yourself"
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] --"Slippery" Jim DiGriz
> (the Stainless Steel Rat)
I'm in the US too.
If you want a Ford Escort. And want to waste time in fixing
all the broken pieces, not to mention security risks. Get RH.
(RH even beats Windoz in security holes, according to bugstraq.)
If you want a Porsche, or a Mercedes Benz AMG-S class -- Get SuSE. :)
Especially when both costs the same, or less (i.e.: SuSE.)
Or get one of the BSD.- you won't regrad with BSD or SuSE. (or
Slackware,
if you know enough of the *nix stuff.)
BTW. RPM is a major security risk.
Compile from source.
-blowfish.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Subject: Re: Are there substantially more/less RPMs for RH or SuSE?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 02:41:29 GMT
On Fri, 14 Jul 2000 03:57:34 GMT, Kevin Vandersloot wrote:
>> Being in the USA, I hear the most about RH and
>> Mandrake. But when all is counted, what % of
>> RPMs will work on both RH and SuSE, what % for
>> RH and not SuSE, and what % for SuSE and not RH?
>
>If your criteria is the amount of package support
>then you definitely want RedHat.
On what do you base this?
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Subject: Re: Are there substantially more/less RPMs for RH or SuSE?
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 19:44:54 -0700
Kevin Vandersloot wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Jerome Mrozak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm choosing between distros and would like to
> > NOT be stuck with a distro that can't find the
> > "latest and greatest" software, such as Gnome
> > updates, KDE updates, editors.
> >
> > Being in the USA, I hear the most about RH and
> > Mandrake. But when all is counted, what % of
> > RPMs will work on both RH and SuSE, what % for
> > RH and not SuSE, and what % for SuSE and not RH?
> >
>
> If your criteria is the amount of package support
> then you definitely want RedHat.
SuSE comes with 6 CDs full. Or a DVD.
Not to mention ease of configuration and the excellent hardware
supports from SuSE. SuSE also comes with XF4.0, and Frasier File system.
Plus sound , NICs (I have 3 NICs in my SuSE box) everything support and
set up from YaST2. Without having even to breaks out the text editor and
mess around.
-blowfish.
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Subject: Re: Are there substantially more/less RPMs for RH or SuSE?
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 19:49:05 -0700
Jerome Mrozak wrote:
>
> I'm choosing between distros and would like to NOT be stuck with a
> distro that can't find the "latest and greatest" software, such as Gnome
> updates, KDE updates, editors.
>
> Being in the USA, I hear the most about RH and Mandrake. But when all
> is counted, what % of RPMs will work on both RH and SuSE, what % for RH
> and not SuSE, and what % for SuSE and not RH?
>
Basically. Most of the rpm from RH won't work on Mandrake, or SuSE.
Or the rpm from SuSE won't work on RH or Mandrake, and Mandrake's rpm
won't
work on SuSE or RH.
But most rpm and .deb will work on *BSD. Especially FreeBSD.
Some Linux apps even run better on BSD than on Linux native. Even rpms.
-blowfish.
> A demanding question, perhaps. And I thank _very_much_ anyone who
> chooses to answer it.
>
> Jerome.
> --
> Jerome Mrozak "Never buy a dog and bark for yourself"
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] --"Slippery" Jim DiGriz
> (the Stainless Steel Rat)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: Standard out
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 14 Jul 2000 21:56:42 -0500
In article <8kn4om$36d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, paul miller wrote:
>Is it possible to run a program on the console and have input and output
>displayed on the screen, whilst redirecting it to a file? How?
Use the tee command:
cat input_file | tee /dev/tty | running_program | tee out_file
(I won't guarantee that input display and output display aren't
intermixed.)
--
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