Linux-Misc Digest #223, Volume #24 Fri, 21 Apr 00 12:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: Linux Problem (Lim Kian Tee)
Web mail? ("Vasan Chakravarthy")
Re: query about LINUX (Koos Pol)
Re: tar commands (mircea)
Re: Changing screen resolution on Redhat-SPARC? (Bala)
Re: Acrobat PDF files (Bob Tennent)
snoop command for Linux? (Svein Tjonndal)
Re: Setup ("Gavin Cheal")
Re: snoop command for Linux? ("Warren Raquel")
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (Se�n � Donnchadha)
Backup options? (Gururajan Ramachandran)
Re: pilot-xfer on Linux (Paul Hughett)
Re: Help - How do you pronounce GNU? (Edwin Chacon)
back-up options? (Matt Friedman)
changing focus in enlightenment (Mark Kempster)
Remove Shared Library? (Allen Chin)
Problem: lpr spool directory on NSF mounted partitions (Marco Cavadini)
RPM failed dependencies ...(?) (Giovanni)
filesystem error (Alexis Bilodeau)
Re: snoop command for Linux? (Bill Randle)
Re: Drawing Program?
Re: Login problem (Leonard Evens)
Re: query about LINUX (Leonard Evens)
Re: gnucash - Is it useful for stock portfolios? (Dave Brown)
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Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 21:06:35 +0800
From: Lim Kian Tee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Problem
Thank you very much for your advice. I tried to access the /etc/XF86Config
file from root directory but I got a message: - "Permission denied". I also
ran the /usr/X11R6/bin/Xconfigurator and tried many different resolutions for
my monitor but I still end up with the 'Big' image and 'cannot scroll' screen.
My VGA card is a Diamond Viper 770 Ultra with 32MB memory and my monitor is a
17" Samtron 75E. Any further advice would be very much appreciated.
Kian Tee
Lew Pitcher wrote:
> Lim Kian Tee wrote:
> >
> > My problem started like this: -
> > 1. I used partition magic in win98 to establish an extended dos partion
> > of about 6.4 gigabyte and then two logical partitions of 5.4gigabyte and
> > 1.0 gigabyte. I have drives C, D, and E and my CDROM is drive F.
> >
> > 2. I used drive E: for data storage, drive C for win98 and as for drive
> > D, I installed Linux Redhat 6.0.
> >
> > 3. After successfully installing Redhat, I find that the image in my
> > Linux screen is too big for Linux to be of any use. I cannot see what's
> > on the desktop and I cannot scroll.
>
> This problem is easily solvable with some editing of the
> /etc/XF86Config file. A temporary solution that usually works
> (assuming RedHat set things up properly) is to press the <ctrl> <alt>
> and <numeric-keypad-plus> keys all at once. This should cycle you to
> the next higher resolution. Keep going until you either get a
> resolution that you like or you cycle back to the lowest resolution.
> To back up through the resolutions, press <ctrl> <alt> and
> <numeric-keypad-minus>.
>
> > 4. I have two choices: a) to remove Linux and reclaim drive D for win98,
> > b) solve the Linux display problem.
>
> Right.
>
> > 5. I decided on option 'a', ie to remove Linux because I am a newbie to
> > Linux and I figured it is beyond me to hack away my Linux problem.
>
> With our help, it becomes a lot easier ;-)
>
> > 6. I restarted my system and Lilo boot into win98. I noticed that my
> > drive E has become drive D and the previous drive D has disappeared.
> > Thinking that partition magic will be able to 'see' the previous drive D
> > and hence I could remove the Linux, I proceeded to start partition
> > magic.
>
> You installed Linux on the partition that was MSWindows drive D:.
> However, the install changed the partition type (this _is_ correct and
> necessary), so MSWindows no longer recognizes that partition as one of
> its own. MSWindows ignores the partition, and so assigns it's
> previously used drive letter (D:) to the next MSWindows partition on
> the drive. Thus your D: dissappeared and your E: changed to D:. If
> you truely want to get rid of Linux, use the Linux fdisk command to
> change the partition type back to MSDOS (MSWindows). When you start
> MSWindows next, MSWindows will recognize the partition and assign it
> it's previous drive letter. If you select the partition from "My
> Computer", then MSWindows will recognize that it is not MSDOS
> formatted, and ask if you want it formatted for MSWindows use. You
> choose what you want to do from that point onward.
>
> > 7. To my horror, I got an 'error 114' message and partion magic failed
> > to start up.
>
> Sorry, but I cant help here. I don't use Partition Magic
>
> > 8. I then used my win98 start up disk to boot up and tried to start
> > win98 fdisk.exe but the system hanged.
>
> Sorry, but something beyond my immediate abilities has fouled up.
>
> > Please advice me on what I should do next.
>
> Call Microsoft Technical Support? The Microsoft website has (incorrect
> and incomplete) instructions on how to remove Linux from your
> MSWindows system.
>
> > Kian Tee
>
> --
> Lew Pitcher
>
> Master Codewright and JOAT-in-training
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From: "Vasan Chakravarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Web mail?
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 13:15:55 GMT
Does anyone know if there is a way to retrieve email via a URL?
Mail servers running MS Exchange do this. I was wondering if this is
possible on a Linux mail server.
Any input is appreciated.
Vasan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Koos Pol)
Subject: Re: query about LINUX
Date: 21 Apr 2000 13:02:20 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 21 Apr 2000 08:26:41 -0500, Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Koos Pol wrote:
| > It is all a matter of taste. RedHat is generally considered more appropriate
| > for technical skilled people,
|
| Perhaps this (above) should be "Debian".
Could be. I don't know. I only know RedHat and SuSE. But I think the
suggested feeling about RedHat is accurate.
| > and SuSE for not so technically skilled ones.
| > What is a fact is that SuSE comes with the largest distribution.
|
| Larger than Debian?
SuSe comes on 6 (six!) cdrom's. You don't want to download that :-)
Cheers,
Koos Pol
======================================================================
S.C. Pol - Systems Administrator - Compuware Europe B.V. - Amsterdam
T:+31 20 3116122 F:+31 20 3116200 E:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Check my email address when you hit "Reply".
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From: mircea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: tar commands
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 09:22:48 -0400
Russell wrote:
>
> I have another problem. Recently I have been trying to learn how to backup
> using tar, however, I can only seem to manage to tar certain files within a
> directory but not to a device.
>
> The devices I would like to backup to are a floppy (/dev/fd0) and a
> removable HDD (/dev/hdc1), so far I have been unsuccessful in backing up to
> these devices, the command I have used so far are, tar -cf Archive1.tar
> (file names that i want archived) to the device i want it backed up to
> /dev/fd0 or /dev/hdc1.
>
> I would like to be able to backup to either one of these devices and restore
> these file or directories to it's original location, any hints or suggestion
> would be appreciated.
>
Here's a hint: search freshmeat.net for backburner. It's a very nice set
of scripts that act as wrappers for tar, etc., and make
creating/restoring from backups very easy. I have used it for my regular
backups on CDRW, for about a year. Multiple volumes are supported. The
only requirement is perl.
MST
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From: Bala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Changing screen resolution on Redhat-SPARC?
Date: 21 Apr 2000 13:10:47 GMT
Grant Edwards <grant@nowhere.> wrote:
> You've pretty much hit the nail on the head: there isn't
> anything you can do. The frame buffer hardware in a Sun
> Classic runs at 1152x900 at a fixed frequency. It's not
> configurable.
Hi Grant, I'm not sure if you're correct. According to the Sun Framebuffer FAQ
the Sun Classic has a cg3 which supports a 1024x768 (77 Hz) mode. However when
I attempt to change the NVRAM to this mode the system fails to boot and so I
have to reset the NVRAM. Can anyone else confirm Grant's statement?
Thanks.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Tennent)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Acrobat PDF files
Date: 21 Apr 2000 13:23:15 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 21 Apr 2000 11:08:16 +0100, Charles Blackburn wrote:
>
>Is it possible to create an Acrobat PDF file in linux?
>
>From what?
The ghostscript package includes a ps2pdf converter.
The tetex packages include pdftex and pdflatex.
There is a very good dvi to pdf converter: dvipdfm.
And there's a shareware text to pdf converter I've seen advertised.
Bob T.
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From: Svein Tjonndal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: snoop command for Linux?
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 13:51:48 +0000
Hi,
Does Linux have an equivalent of Solaris' snoop command?
Thanks,
--
Svein Tjonndal
Educational Consultant, Advanced Technical Program
Business Objects University
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
telephone: (33) 1 41 25 37 18
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From: "Gavin Cheal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Setup
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 15:11:26 +0100
SuSE 6.3. The only thing is there are packages on the Caldera disks that I
would like to install on to my Linux system especially the Java2 software,
because the java on SuSE is only 1.1.7 which does not have the swing
library.
I used RPM on KPackage to install it but it is nowhere to be used. After
installing it do I have to unpack it using make or something. If I do could
someone take me through the make scenario.
So basically what i require is Java2 1.2.2 or higher, and my CDRW working
how do I go about getting what I want?
I also have downloads of Java2 1.3 which is for a solaris computer, can I
use this with linux, and if so, how do I use "make" to complete the
installation.
Thankyou
Chilo
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From: "Warren Raquel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: snoop command for Linux?
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 09:14:00 -0500
Ethereal seems to be the consensus around here for a 'snoop'-alike.
"Svein Tjonndal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> Does Linux have an equivalent of Solaris' snoop command?
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Svein Tjonndal
> Educational Consultant, Advanced Technical Program
> Business Objects University
> e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> telephone: (33) 1 41 25 37 18
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From: Se�n � Donnchadha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.lang.java.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 10:22:18 -0400
On 21 Apr 2000 10:40:32 GMT, Aaron Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>:
>: How about the fact that Windows runs on commodity hardware and uses
>: device drivers produced by hardware manufacturers possessing poor
>: software skills,
>
>Like Linux which also runs on commodity hardware?
>
Did you not read the rest of what I said? Here it is again:
"How about the fact that Windows runs on commodity hardware and uses
device drivers produced by hardware manufacturers possessing poor
software skills, locked in intense competition with their peers, and
willing to cut any corner they can to be the first to market with
some new feature or shave a few microseconds off the benchmark
result?"
Here's more of what I said in the same article:
"Even Linux, which runs on commodity hardware, uses device drivers
that were written by caring hackers without the pressures of
cutthroat commercial competition."
>
>Also Win98 stability is not related to just driver quality,
>but the lackof memory protection provided in the OS which makes it prone
>to crashing in response to buggy drivers.
>
I think you meant to say "buggy applications", and again I must say
you didn't really read the article to which you're responding:
"In the case of Win9x, due to that OS's lack of robustness,
applications play a part [in its lack of stability] as well."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gururajan Ramachandran)
Subject: Backup options?
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 14:28:06 GMT
Hello,
Is there anyway to backup a RedHat 6.1 Linux disk in such a way
to a Travan 5 tape such that the disk can be restored without
having to reload the OS? In other words, a disaster prevention backup.
I know I can do this on HP's HP-UX system using COPYUTIL. Is such
a capability available with RedHat 6.1 Linux?
Right now we use "tar" but that is only good for data backup and
not the installed OS backup.
Thanks,
Guru
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From: Paul Hughett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: pilot-xfer on Linux
Date: 21 Apr 2000 14:31:23 GMT
Richard Goldberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:
: I had been using pilot-xfer on linux to back up my palm III for several
: years.
:
: I just upgraded my OS from Mandrake 6.1 to VA-Linux Redhat and all of
: the sudden pilot-xfer does not work anymore.
:
: I get "Unable to bind to port '/dev/cua0'"
:
: Does anyone have any ideas?
Do you have read/write access to the port?
BTW, my experience is that both /dev/cua0 and /dev/ttyS0 will work; but
/dev/ttyS0 is more correct, since it doesn't assume a modem attached
to the port.
Paul Hughett
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From: Edwin Chacon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Help - How do you pronounce GNU?
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 14:40:36 GMT
it is GUHNEW
Tandem Guy wrote:
> So, how do you pronounce GNU?
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From: Matt Friedman <"mwf"@total.net(remove-to-reply)>
Subject: back-up options?
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 10:41:09 -0400
I'm considering getting some kind of back-up drive for my system. I've
looked at tape drives and, aside from the fact that they're pretty
pricey, it occurs to me that they aren't exactly very flexible. I
wouldn't be able to use one for anything EXCEPT backups. So my question
is, would a CD-R or CD-RW be practical for back-ups [I would only
back-up ./home], and what are some of the considerations when chosing
one for a Linux system?
MF
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From: Mark Kempster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: changing focus in enlightenment
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 10:42:23 -0500
In article <8doagt$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Edward L.
Hepler) wrote:
> I should have mentioned that I am using the "Sawmill" window manager under
> RedHat 6.2... I was using the "Enlightenment" wm, (and was able to resize
> in either direction), but could not find a way to make the focus (active
> window) follow the mouse (instead of requiring a mouse click to make a
> window active)...
>
You want the Focus Settings menu;
select either 'Focus follows pointer' or 'Focus follows pointer sloppily'.
Sounds like you currenty have 'Focus follows mouse clicks'.
Cheers
- Mark
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From: Allen Chin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Remove Shared Library?
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 22:45:48 +0800
Hi, I removed a RPM package but it clamed an error when executing
post-uninstall script.
The post-uninstall script simply run ldconfig via shell. I ran ldconfig
manually, it printed nothing as usual.
However, many programs won't work after the uninstallation.
What should I do to correctly remove the shared library package? Thanks
for help.
[root i386]# rpm -e avfs-0.2-2
/bin/sh: error in loading shared libraries: libavfs.so: cannot
open shared object file: No such file or directory
execution of script failed
[root i386]# rpm -q --scripts avfs-0.2-2
postinstall script (through /bin/sh):
ldconfig
postuninstall script (through /bin/sh):
ldconfig
[root i386]# ldd /bin/bash
libavfs.so => /usr/lib/libavfs.so (0x40019000)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
libtermcap.so.2 => /lib/libtermcap.so.2 (0x4002d000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40031000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x40126000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000)
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From: Marco Cavadini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Problem: lpr spool directory on NSF mounted partitions
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 17:06:43 +0200
On my diskless workstations I have printing problems with a spooling
directory in /var/spolling/lpd/printer.
/var is mounted via NFS (root over NFS....)
This is what I get in teh sooling directory.
-rw-rw---- 1 bin lp 0 Apr 21 09:47 cfA096muggio
-rw-rw---- 1 cavadini lp 469 Apr 21 09:47 dfA096muggio
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 9443 Apr 21 09:11 filter
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 188 Apr 21 09:11 general.cfg
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4 Apr 21 11:24 lock
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 345 Apr 21 09:11 postscript.cfg
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 28 Apr 21 11:24 status
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 146 Apr 21 09:11 textonly.cfg
The cfAOxxxxxx file seams to be badly closed or something like this.
There shouldn't be permissions problems. If I move the spooling
directory to a locally mounted partition (/tmp/spool....) everyting
works fine.
Marco
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Giovanni)
Subject: RPM failed dependencies ...(?)
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 15:16:34 GMT
Hi ,
I am trying to install an RPM scientific program called scilab, but
when I try to use the command rpm -i scilab*
I get the following error message:
"error failed dependencies:
/usr/bin/wish is needed by scilab-2.5.0"
Now, it is true that initially usr/bin/wish did not exist, but I have
found that I had /usr/X11R6/bin/wish. So I made a symbolic link
to this file, but I still got the same error message.
I thought maybe my version of wish is too old, so I downloaded a
"tk.rpm" package from SuSE 6.3 (I have SuSE 6.2), but now when I try
to update this package (rpm -U tk.rpm) I have another error message:
"file /usr/X11R6/bin/wish8.0 from install of tk-8.0.5-12
conflicts with file from package tk_new-8.0.5-27"
I'm lost , because even the version numbers seem odd to me: the "old"
installed package has version 8.0.5-27, while the "new" has
# 8.0.5-12.
Does anyone know what is going wrong here?
Thanks a lot for any hint!
Giovanni
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From: Alexis Bilodeau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: filesystem error
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 15:36:42 GMT
Hi,
When I try to install a new RPM (which, actually, is lpr (mdk)), it
tells me that it needs 4 kb on the var filesystem. I installed this
package before and it worked fine. Then I got an error when printing
from a joeuser telling me that it can't write the temporary file when
printing (related to the var problem?). So I decided to remove the
packages and reinstall them, but now I get this error.
I tried to copy a 1mb file on /var/ and it worked fine...
What's the matter?
How can I diagnoze this filesystem?
Thank you,
--
Alexis Bilodeau
eMagiK Technologies
819.371.9273
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Bill Randle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: snoop command for Linux?
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 15:30:09 GMT
Svein Tjonndal wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Does Linux have an equivalent of Solaris' snoop command?
>
'tcpdump' does the same thing as snoop. Find 'ethereal' and install
it on your system for a nice GUI interface to tcpdump.
--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Drawing Program?
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 15:30:10 GMT
Try image magik.
--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Login problem
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 11:40:10 -0500
"S.Prakash" wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I am having a problem with the logging into the linux server. I was
> working fine, but since today morning it is not allowing any of the user
> ID's to login.
>
> I am using RedHat linux 6.2. If i go into /etc/passwd file and remove the
> Passwd option then without password all the users are able to login.
>
> Can anyone tell what is stopping the machine from logging in with the
> password.
>
> Regards,
> Prakash.S
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
Try doing
rpm -V util-linux
This should tell you if /bin/login has been corrupted.
It is also possible that someone has intruded on your system
and modified some of your files. Try also
rpm -V fileutils
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: query about LINUX
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 11:47:22 -0500
abdul rahman wrote:
>
> hi everybody
>
> i would like to use Linux Os, but have difficulty understanding the
> different between Linux Red Hat 6.0 & 6.1, Suse Linux 6.1, Linux Mandrake
> 7.0, Corel Linux and Win Linux 2000. is there anybody out there whose can
> explain to me whats the different and which one to use i also notice that
> some of the above Os have different amount of CD's, as little as 1 to as
> much as 5.
RedHat and Suse are in many ways similar. RedHat is more popular
in the US, and Suse is a German product, but would owrk perfectly
welll for English language users. Mandrake started out as a
copy of RedHat with some additional features added to simplify
installation. It has now departed a bit further from RedHat.
I am not too familiar with Corel Linux. I think Win Linux 2000
is a version which can be run from a Windows partition. This
may be easier to install initially but probably won't run as well
or allow for expansion as easily, but I am not really sure about
that.
You didn't mention Debian. This is probably the "purest",
least commercial form of Linux, but from my experience I would
say it would be hard for a new user to install.
There is also a few other L:inux releases, but the above
give you a range of choices. It doesn't matter that much
which one you choose since they all use the same kernels and
system utilties. Once you pick one you will probably want
to stick with it.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: gnucash - Is it useful for stock portfolios?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 21 Apr 2000 10:50:31 -0500
In article <8dntr2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jim Cochrane wrote:
>How good is gnucash's stock portfolio functionality? Can it be used
>effectively to keep track of one's trades and how much one has made or
>lost, etc.?
>
>I would just try it out, but it looks like it may take some time and pain
>to install it on Suse 6.3, so I thought I'd ask before I check it out.
The install is easy; it's the data entry that might be time consuming. :)
(Although there is some import capability from Quicken... I chose not
to use it. My Quicken was about 6 months out of date since I started
using Linux full-time. I couldn't get my Quicken 99 to work in Wine.)
But in rpm form, it's easy to install, and test-drive--which is kinda
where I am now.
GnuCash looks promising. It reminds me of Quicken for Windows 2.0.
If the developers work as hard at it as the Intuit folks do, we may
someday have a Linux app that can replace Quicken.
So whereas GnuCash allows the creation of various types of accounts,
Cash, Bank, Stock, etc., don't expect to pop-up pie-charts of your
portfolio. (Although they may be there, and I haven't found them
yet.
I've just decided to go with the basics that are there now, and see
what develops.
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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