Linux-Misc Digest #223, Volume #26 Fri, 3 Nov 00 21:13:01 EST
Contents:
Re: troff (Brian V. Smith)
compiling KDE 2.0 on solaris box ("Joerg Friebe")
IDE vs SCSI ZIP drives
Re: CDROM problems (inon21)
Re: CDROM problems (inon21)
Re: Linux/Windows2000 dual OS ("al")
Extra Page when printing from NT? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Cable modem, ethernet, and DHCP (Brian)
Re: Cable modem, ethernet, and DHCP (Brian)
Re: Looking for web-based e-mail checker for linux (Bob Hauck)
Re: troff (James Silverton)
Re: Whats good about debian and slackware? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Internet connection sharing (inon21)
Dell Optiplex GX110, Rage 128 Pro (Bill Unruh)
Re: LinkSys betrayed us! Poor prospects for Linux. ("Uncle Meat")
Re: two peices of legislation i would like to see (Zero Piraeus)
Re: Corel WordPerfect 8 emulated on Linux ? (Rod Smith)
Re: Whats good about debian and slackware? (ljb)
Re: two peices of legislation i would like to see (guy-jin)
Re: device is busy & filesystem issues (Christopher Browne)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian V. Smith)
Subject: Re: troff
Date: 3 Nov 2000 22:46:19 GMT
In article <8tv3eb$ka7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trevor Brown)
writes:
|> Hi:
|>
|> Does anyone know how to underline in troff? I've tried .ul and .cu, but
|> these only underline in nroff -- in troff, they italicize.
According to typesetters and editors (the people kind) the time one should underline
is when you don't have an italics font. I know, it's kind of fascistic, but
that is the reasoning that troff italicizes instead of underlining.
--
===============================================================
Brian V. Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www-epb.lbl.gov/BVSmith
Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
I don't speak for LBL; they don't pay me enough for that.
Check out the xfig site at http://www-epb.lbl.gov/xfig
To the optimist, the glass is half full. To the pessimist, the
glass is half empty. To the engineer, the glass is twice as big
as it needs to be.
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From: "Joerg Friebe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: compiling KDE 2.0 on solaris box
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 23:58:31 +0100
Hello!
I'm experiencing difficulties installing KDE 2.0
with gcc 2.95.2 on a Sun box running Solaris 2.7.
At link-time ld complains that he can't link some
kdelib against libstdc++, because some text
relocations remain (because libstdc++ is only
available as static libstdc++.a and the objects
inside are not compiled with -fPIC for position
independent code).
What can I do? Is there any kind of workaround?
I guess the problem should be there on many
non-PC Linuxes and Unixes where position
independent code is not standard.
n/b: I have gcc 2.95.2 installed as a binary
package so I can't recompile libstdc++ with -fPIC
to avoid the problems.
Please send your hints to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Many thanks in advance...
J�rg
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: IDE vs SCSI ZIP drives
Date: 3 Nov 2000 23:08:54 GMT
Im having a problem that SOMEONE must have seen before.
If I check the size of a Zip Cartridge (copy /dev/zero to it with dd)
I find the cartridge is 16k if it is mounted in a SCSI drive than if
mounted in a IDE drive.
No probem you say.
Well, the real problem is that a ZIP cartridge partitioned/formtted on
the IDE ZIP drive is not readable on the SCSI ZIP drive. Seems the extra
16k appears at the beginning of the SCSI cartridge (as far as that drive
is concerned) and as such you dont see the MBR wriiten by one by the other.
Does this sound familiar to ANYONE?
ANYONE else have problems transfering cartridges between ZIP drives on
the IDE and SCSI?
[ As long as a cartridge is ONLY used by IDE or SCSI drives you will never
see this problem]
Reg.Clemens
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: inon21 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CDROM problems
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 23:06:20 GMT
Thanks for the reply. The kernel is 2.2.16, CD-ROM is Acer 50x (IDE)
jumpered as slave. Master device is the hdd that has linux installed.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Thu, 02 Nov 2000 23:47:04 GMT, inon21 wrote:
> >Please help a newbie - once I login into the shell I can mount the
> >cdrom (fs type iso9660), however once I go into my X desktop (KDE),
> >mount says 'wrong medium type.'
> >=======================================
> >hdd: packet command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete
Error }
> [snip]
>
> Which kernel version is this? What's the exact make/model of your
> CD-ROM? Is it jumpered correctly? (set it to Slave; "Cable Select"
can
> cause problems.) Some older kernels had problems with "high-speed"
> (>40X) drives which were fixed around 2.2.14 or 2.2.15. You might as
> well get the latest stable kernel, 2.2.17, as you'll have to recompile
> the thing anyway for IP-Masqing as you indicated in another message.
> HTH,
>
> --
> Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us
to see
> Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin'
Ctrl-Alt
> http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
> -----------------------------/ I hit a seg fault....
>
--
==============
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should not be considered as either guidance or
advise. I'm not responsible for any damage caused
directly,indirectly, known or unknown means and
at any time.
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From: inon21 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CDROM problems
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 23:08:00 GMT
..and the mobo is ASUS P3V4X.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Thu, 02 Nov 2000 23:47:04 GMT, inon21 wrote:
> >Please help a newbie - once I login into the shell I can mount the
> >cdrom (fs type iso9660), however once I go into my X desktop (KDE),
> >mount says 'wrong medium type.'
> >=======================================
> >hdd: packet command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete
Error }
> [snip]
>
> Which kernel version is this? What's the exact make/model of your
> CD-ROM? Is it jumpered correctly? (set it to Slave; "Cable Select"
can
> cause problems.) Some older kernels had problems with "high-speed"
> (>40X) drives which were fixed around 2.2.14 or 2.2.15. You might as
> well get the latest stable kernel, 2.2.17, as you'll have to recompile
> the thing anyway for IP-Masqing as you indicated in another message.
> HTH,
>
> --
> Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us
to see
> Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin'
Ctrl-Alt
> http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
> -----------------------------/ I hit a seg fault....
>
--
==============
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should not be considered as either guidance or
advise. I'm not responsible for any damage caused
directly,indirectly, known or unknown means and
at any time.
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From: "al" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux/Windows2000 dual OS
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 23:36:06 -0000
Try PartitionMagic 6.0 with native Win 2000 amd WinME support.
I tried PMagic 5.0 after booting to DOS and managed to load up the GUI
but it failed to detect my Win2K primary (and only) NTFS5 partition
(corrupted)
PMagic 6.0 works fine and detected it and I used it first to size/format the
Ext2fs Linux partitions first
before installing SuSE Linux from CD-ROM, installed LILO on the MBR, etc.
LILO detects Win2K as "nt" in my case and my dual-boot system (Dell Laptop)
is complete :-)
Andy
"Gilberto E.Urroz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I got this 30GB hard disk computer that my boss bougth for me (nice,
> isn't it?) and I tried to install Linux along with the Windows 2000
> Professional OS that the computer has. Partition Magic 5.0, which work
> wonderfully under Windows 95 and 98, does not work with Windows 2000
> Professional.
>
> Can anyone guide me to a web site or other reference on how to install
> Windows 2000 Professional and Linux in the same hard disk?
>
> Thanks,
>
> G.Urroz
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Extra Page when printing from NT?
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 23:26:50 GMT
This should be an easy one for you die-hards out there.
When I print from an NT machine, I get an extra blank page after the
printed material. Can anyone suggest a way to stop the printing of this
blank page?
Using SuSE 7.0 Pro
In my /etc/smb.conf I have the following:
[global]
workgroup = workgroup name
log file = /var/log/samba-log.%m
keepalive = 30
os level = 2
kernel oplocks = No
security = domain
encrypt passwords = yes
smb passwd file = /etc/smbpasswd
password server = list of servers....
guest account = nobody
socket address = address....
printing = bsd
[printers]
comment = All Printers
path = /tmp
create mask = 0700
printable = Yes
browseable = No
public = no
writable = no
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
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From: Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Cable modem, ethernet, and DHCP
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 23:29:47 GMT
ray wrote:
> James wrote:
>
> > Arg, linux newbie here with some problems setting up my cable modem with
> > dhcp. I have Mandrake 7.1. I type in "netconf" which takes me to the
> > network configurator. In "Basic Host Info" there is a "hostname +
> > domain" entry which is set to "localhost.localdomain".
> > Under the "adapter1" tab is the following info:
> > I have a 3com Etherlink III (3c509B)
> >
>
> I use RedHat, Mandrake "was" very tightly based on it. I have a 3C905
> and cable modem.
> Here, what makes the connection to the DHCP server and gets the information
> needed is a utility named pump. Like this: pump -i eth0. After that pump -s
> will reveal a lot of interesting stuff. An lsmod will show if the eth
> drivers are loaded. If they are, pump should cause furious blinking on the
> modem, for maybe 3 seconds, while information transfers to you. Your
> /etc/resolv.conf will have been re-written after this, with the DNS IP's
> filled in.
>
The above can configured through linuxconf or netconfig in Drakconfig . Pump
was the only way I could geet my 3c509 to access the internet through the
cable modem. My ne2kpci went right up with dhcp. Must be a 3c509 problem
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From: Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Cable modem, ethernet, and DHCP
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 23:31:07 GMT
James wrote:
> Hi Ray, thanks for your response. I also tried using pump (with help from the
> how-to) but I was unable to find the command in any of my directories. I even
> did a "find / -name pump" and found nothing. Where can I get this utility?
Look on your installation cd in the Mandrake/RPMS directory.. rpm -ivh
pump......rpm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: Looking for web-based e-mail checker for linux
Reply-To: bobh{at}haucks{dot}org
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 23:43:45 GMT
On Fri, 3 Nov 2000 10:50:16 -0500, J.R. Farrar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Anyone know where I can find a down and dirty e-mail interface using a web
>server on my Redhat box?
I've used Twig with good results. It may be more than you need, but
what the heck. http://www.screwdriver.net/
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| To Whom You Are Speaking
-| http://www.haucks.org/
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From: James Silverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: troff
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 19:05:57 -0500
Brian V. Smith wrote:
>
> In article <8tv3eb$ka7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trevor
>Brown) writes:
> |> Hi:
> |>
> |> Does anyone know how to underline in troff? I've tried .ul and .cu, but
> |> these only underline in nroff -- in troff, they italicize.
>
> According to typesetters and editors (the people kind) the time one should underline
> is when you don't have an italics font. I know, it's kind of fascistic, but
> that is the reasoning that troff italicizes instead of underlining.
When did you last see a novel or real text book with the text
underlined? IMHO, underlining *is* a a substitute for italicizing.
Jim.
--
James V. Silverton
Potomac, Maryland.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Whats good about debian and slackware?
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 23:57:04 GMT
In article <jzGM5.30037$tL4.375619@zonnet-reader-1>,
"J.Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks for the feedback.
> So what else makes Slackware and Debian really cool distro's ?
Slackware has a reputation as a hacker's distribution. No
fancy GUI install or config programs - all text based. Your
main configuration tool is vi... :-)
Laura Halliday VE7LDH "Que les nuages soient notre
Grid: CN89mg pied a terre..." - Hospital/Shafte
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From: inon21 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Internet connection sharing
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 00:01:01 GMT
Thank you very much. I will jump right into reading those HOWTOs. BTW,
I have LinkSys card and I guess I need Tulip drivers for this.
Thanks once again.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux.suse
Subject: Dell Optiplex GX110, Rage 128 Pro
Date: 4 Nov 2000 00:28:08 GMT
Trying to install Mandrake 7.1 on a Dell Optiplex GX110 with onboard
Intel i810 chipset and an add in ATI All in Wonder 128 Pro video card.
We are having great trouble installing. We cannot figure out how to
disable the onboard video card-- Dows anyone know?
We cannot seem to get it to see the ATI 128 Pro card-- is this supported
in Xfree 3.3.6 or 4.0.1?
Help.
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From: "Uncle Meat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LinkSys betrayed us! Poor prospects for Linux.
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 18:35:49 -0600
In article <syBM5.10062$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Neal R. Champion"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have two Windows 98se machines and one Linux machine on my home
> network all using Linksys NICs and a Linksys Hub and a Linksys router to
> share my internet connection. It all works great. When configuring the
> Linksys card under RedHat linux I did download the latest driver
> (tulip.c). When using Mandrake Linux it configured the card out of the
> box.
I too have all Linksys, excepting a card in a PPC. This is the second set
I've had, running a linux box and linux router, with a 'Doze box also
with the 1st set. Both sets worked straight away in RH 5.1, 5.2, 6.0 and
now 6.2. Had to get the driver for Mandrake and Debian.
My advice has always been, try the driver you start with first. If that
doesn't work, get the new one. If that doesn't work, ask. There are
other drivers floating around that other users know about and can
point people toward.
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From: Zero Piraeus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: two peices of legislation i would like to see
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 00:52:01 +0000
Hey:
> > I'd alter this so it applied to hardware rather than software
> > [the sale of which is going to dry up, after all],
>
> i dont think so. people are always going to buy
> video/computer games. and then there's big business
> 'enterprise' software, and niche markets, and stuff like that.
Oh, I can see big corps paying software developers to produce
'enterprise' stuff, yeah - I just don't think they'll be buying
software.
Video games ... I can't see what it is that makes them different enough
from operating systems or music recordings that anyone will ever bother
to buy them, once we've got better connection speeds and Freenet. Buy
the media, yeah. Buy the shiny jewel case and the glossy booklet, sure.
Buy the information? Nah.
> > and also set it up so that
> > manufacturers can offset donations to non-profit software development
> > against tax. It's a lot easier to sell a rebate than a tax, and
> > corporations would like it better if they got to support a project
> > relevant to their business, rather than "The Gummint".
>
> what kind of non profit software development would microsoft
> donate to? LOW? (Linux On Windows)
Who wants THEIR money? Okay, you've got a point there.
> > Actually, didn't RMS come up with something very like this?
>
> edjamacate me, who/what is RMS?
Richard M Stallman - wrote Emacs, invented the GPL, started the Free
Software Foundation, etc.
-[z]. Although, y'know, "vi forever".
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Corel WordPerfect 8 emulated on Linux ?
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 01:26:17 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Wordperfect Office 2000 is the the compiled using wine libraries.
> (It isn't emulated. It just uses Wine for it's API, rather than other X
> libs).
WINE can be used in one of two ways:
- To run native Windows applications
- To compile Windows programs into native Linux applications that use
the WINE libraries
When Corel announced WP Office 2000, it said it would be using the
second technique. They had problems, though (IIRC, with debugging), and
so released WPO2K using the first technique -- that is, WPO2K is a
Windows executable that's run via WINE. (It won't run in Windows,
though.) In the case of WPO2K, the distinction between a Windows
executable run via WINE and a Linux executable that uses WINE libraries
is a bit fine.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ljb)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Whats good about debian and slackware?
Date: 4 Nov 2000 01:33:47 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>In article <jzGM5.30037$tL4.375619@zonnet-reader-1>,
> "J.Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the feedback.
>> So what else makes Slackware and Debian really cool distro's ?
>
>Slackware has a reputation as a hacker's distribution. No
>fancy GUI install or config programs - all text based. Your
>main configuration tool is vi... :-)
True, but there's a certain irony here. Slackware, supposedly a "hacker's
distribution", has proven to me to be far more conservative than Red Hat,
which is called a "new user's distribution". Examples include: libc6, new
gcc, PAM, and knfsd - Red Hat put these in a distribution much earlier than
Slackware, and in some cases while the developers themselves still
considered them "experimental".
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From: guy-jin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: two peices of legislation i would like to see
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 01:35:47 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Zero Piraeus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
> Richard M Stallman - wrote Emacs, invented the GPL,
> started the Free Software Foundation, etc.
[smacks forehead] should have known that...
> -[z]. Although, y'know, "vi forever".
VI = roman numeral 6. how many times have you
run vi in your life? divide that number by three
(i.e. VI VI VI = 666) and that is how many times
you've KISSED SATANS ###! VI is VIle! VI is eVIl!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: device is busy & filesystem issues
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 02:09:22 GMT
In our last episode (Fri, 03 Nov 2000 16:07:54 GMT),
the artist formerly known as J. Roe said:
>I have two filesystem issues that I can't figure out.
>1. Often, when I try to unmount a filesystem (ie floppy or zip). I
>will get "device is busy". But there is no activity and no users are
>using this filesystem (i.e. /mnt/floppy or /mnt/zip). I have no idea
>why this is happening and how to resolve this.
Your view of "busyness" and the system's view of "busyness" are
probably two different things.
You likely realized that it's not complaining about there being "lots
of disk activity going on;" that's certainly _not_ the issue.
What is less obvious (and decidedly irritating to search out) is that
if any of the users' _environments_ are touching the filesystem, then
_that_ is what indicates that it is "busy."
For instance if a user is holding onto a path that is on those
devices, _that_ makes it "busy."
--> If I do:
% cd /mnt/floppy
Then /mnt/floppy is is "busy."
The place I typically run into this is with a CDROM; I'll mount the
CD, and then, in one of my sessions, "cd /mnt/cdrom" to look at what
is there.
In order to be able to unmount the CD, I need to do one of three
things:
1. Head back to that session and "cd /somewhere/else";
2. Kill the session's process [likely an instance of /usr/bin/zsh];
3. Shut down the whole system, which will kill _all_ the user
processes, thereby resolving the mount issue.
These obviously come in order of decreasing desirability :-).
>2. something is wrong with my floppy filesystem when trying to mount
>ext2 filesystem disks.
>here are attempts:
>
>[janine@boco janine]$ mount /mnt/floppy/
>mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/fd0,
> or too many mounted file systems
>
>[janine@boco janine]$ mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy/
>mount: only root can do that
>
>[janine@boco janine]$ mount -t ext2 /mnt/floppy/
>mount: only root can do that
>
>question-- is this something that only root should do? why can't a user
>do this?
Mount may be set up as "setuid root", but often _NOT_; mounting
filesystems is inherently a pretty "security critical" thing to be
doing.
Supposing it _is_ set to run as setuid root, there still may the issue
of who owns the floppy device /dev/fd0 as well as the mount point
/mnt/floppy.
>so, as root:
>
>[root@boco /root]# mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy/
>mount: you must specify the filesystem type
>
>[root@boco /root]# mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy/
>mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/fd0,
> or too many mounted file systems
>can't get it to work!!
>
>Sometimes when it does mount...and I check the size via df, I get a
>bizarre disk size like 92meg for a 1.4 meg floppy.
>
>Here is my /etc/fstab file
>
>/dev/hda3 / ext2 defaults 1 1
>/dev/hda4 /home ext2 defaults 1 2
>/dev/hda1 /mnt/win98 vfat noauto,user 0 0
>/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom iso9660 noauto,owner,ro 0 0
>/dev/syjet /mnt/syjet ext2 noauto,user 0 0
>/dev/sda4 /mnt/zip ext2 noauto,user,mode=0777 0 0
>/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy ext2 noauto,user 0 0
>/dev/fd0 /mnt/dosflop vfat noauto,user 0 0
>none /proc proc defaults 0 0
>none /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0
>/dev/hda2 swap swap defaults 0 0
The config there looks consistent with it permitting an ordinary user
to do "mount /mnt/floppy" and get the Right Thing Done; it sure sounds
like something peculiar is happening.
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