Linux-Misc Digest #229, Volume #24 Sat, 22 Apr 00 00:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: Tar up filesystem in 2 gig chunks? ("Reid Sutherland")
nested loops in bash (test)
filenames with spaces and wildcards (test)
Re: getting online with prodigy under linux .... (mircea)
Re: Tar up filesystem in 2 gig chunks? (Ken Williams)
Re: Netscape Crashing Problems (Timothy)
Re: voodoo 2000 video card problem (Steve Martin)
Re: filenames with spaces and wildcards ("Reid Sutherland")
Re: filesystem error (Leonard Evens)
Re: Knews (Rod Smith)
Re: linux redhat 6.2 (Leonard Evens)
Re: Cable Modem??? (Dances With Crows)
Re: Will XFS Support ACL's ? (Christopher Browne)
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (Kevin Huber)
Re: Force fschk next reboot? (Dances With Crows)
Re: mounting CD-R results in "No medium found" (Dances With Crows)
Re: nested loops in bash (Dances With Crows)
Re: Trouble with the Korn Shell (Dave Brown)
Re: Will XFS Support ACL's ? (Dave Brown)
linuxconf and "User accounts->Priveleges" (Dave Brown)
Re: Modem Set Up (Robert Lynch)
Re: Arbitary precision libraries. (fred smith)
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation ("Eric Peterson")
Re: IPChains ("John Riehl")
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From: "Reid Sutherland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Tar up filesystem in 2 gig chunks?
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 20:40:12 -0400
Two gig limit? hmm. What kernel version are you running?
Ken Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Due to the pathetic limitations of 2 gig files in linux, I'm forced to tar
my
> filesystem across several files but have no idea.
>
> How does one go about using tar to archive a 10 gig file system but split
the
> files into like filesys1.tar filesys2.tar, etc. with each file under 2
gigs?
>
> Thanks.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (test)
Subject: nested loops in bash
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 00:53:28 GMT
Why do nested loops not work in bash? I tried this
#!/bin/bash
acount=0
bcount=0
while [ $acount -le 9 ] ; do
while [ $bcount -le 9 ] ; do
echo mv b$acount$bcount.t a$acount$bcount.t
bcount=$[$bcount+1]
done
acount=$[$acount+1]
done
bcount goes from 0 to 9.
that's it. no loop on acount.
What's the deal?
==============
siemel b naran
==============
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (test)
Subject: filenames with spaces and wildcards
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 00:57:50 GMT
Filenames with spaces and wildcards (and maybe quotes, but I haven't thought
about that) seem to cause the shell much trouble. I think that a filename
with these special characters should automatically have quotes put around it.
Consider this statement in bash --
set -- $inprefix*$suffix
In my case, inprefix is "a" and suffix is ".t".
Suppose I have a file "a .t" and no other files in my directory.
After the set, I expect $# to be 1 and $1 to be "a .t".
Instead, $# is 2 and $1 is "a" and $2 is ".t".
This is really retarted.
Any solutions or workarounds or better shells?
==============
siemel b naran
==============
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mircea)
Subject: Re: getting online with prodigy under linux ....
Date: 22 Apr 2000 00:55:15 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Maredia) wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>does anyone know the DNS for prodigy.net
>
>and is the windows user name and linux user name are the same or
>different .?? I want to get online with prodigy but can't find the DNS
>
>
I used Prodigy as my ISP for a while, not long ago. It was very simple to
conect. IIRC, the DNS servers are 198.83.19.241 and 198.83.19.244. Yes,
it's the same username and password as in windoze, and the authentication
protocol they use is CHAP, I think. Works like a charm with kppp.
MST
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Williams)
Subject: Re: Tar up filesystem in 2 gig chunks?
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 01:08:15 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Reid Sutherland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Two gig limit? hmm. What kernel version are you running?
2.2.14. THey all have it on Intel.
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From: Timothy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Netscape Crashing Problems
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 01:24:34 GMT
Will Joyner wrote:
> I am having problems with netscape crashing. Several times when a java
> based website is running and/or opened when another netscape window is
> opened, netscape freezezs. I have waited for the page to load, but
> after 5 minutes I am forced to kill the application.
>
> Then startign yesterday it started doing that to pages that don't have
> any java apps on them. Is there a way I can prevent netscape from
> crashing ?
>
> Thanks
> Will Joyner
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Which Version of Netscape are you running? There is a "beta" version of
Netscape 6.0 out for Linux.
home.earthlink.net/~hairyblue
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From: Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: voodoo 2000 video card problem
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 21:35:40 -0400
Doc Shipley wrote:
> The Voodoo3 is only supported in XFree86 v3.3.5 and later.
Not quite true... it's supported by the SVGA driver in
3.3.3, as that's what I'm running right now. I'm currently
typing this on a system with a VooDoo3 2000 running 1024x768x32
and it works like a charm.
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From: "Reid Sutherland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: filenames with spaces and wildcards
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 21:36:43 -0400
(This maybe NOT what you want)
Put slashes in front of the special characters.
For example, bob owns me $4.00.txt
I would put "bob owns me \$4.00.txt"
test <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Filenames with spaces and wildcards (and maybe quotes, but I haven't
thought
> about that) seem to cause the shell much trouble. I think that a filename
> with these special characters should automatically have quotes put around
it.
>
> Consider this statement in bash --
>
> set -- $inprefix*$suffix
>
> In my case, inprefix is "a" and suffix is ".t".
>
> Suppose I have a file "a .t" and no other files in my directory.
> After the set, I expect $# to be 1 and $1 to be "a .t".
> Instead, $# is 2 and $1 is "a" and $2 is ".t".
> This is really retarted.
>
> Any solutions or workarounds or better shells?
>
> --------------
> siemel b naran
> --------------
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: filesystem error
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 21:33:12 -0500
Alexis Bilodeau wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> When I try to install a new RPM (which, actually, is lpr (mdk)), it
> tells me that it needs 4 kb on the var filesystem. I installed this
> package before and it worked fine. Then I got an error when printing
> from a joeuser telling me that it can't write the temporary file when
> printing (related to the var problem?). So I decided to remove the
> packages and reinstall them, but now I get this error.
> I tried to copy a 1mb file on /var/ and it worked fine...
> What's the matter?
> How can I diagnoze this filesystem?
>
> Thank you,
>
> --
> Alexis Bilodeau
> eMagiK Technologies
> 819.371.9273
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What does the command df tell you. It is possible you are
out of space on the partition containing /var. If so removing
unneeded files in /tmp or in /var/spool may solve your problem.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Knews
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 01:40:50 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Michael Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Fri, 21 Apr 2000 23:56:05 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod
> Smith) wrote:
>
>>You should definitely check the Knews documentation to set the options to
>>have it download the newsgroup list file once and then save it to disk,
>>else it'll do that every time you start it. I've forgotten what the exact
>>options are, though.
>
> Once I run it the first time to get the active and description files
> then I always start it with a one-line script so I don't do it again.
> I use
> knews -active -descriptions +fill &
You can actually set these sorts of options in the configuration file.
It's in the ~/.knews directory, and is called config-{newserver}, where
{newserver} is the name of your news server. You can also set the editor
you use for replies, whether or not it checks for new newsgroups, etc.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux networking & multi-OS configuration
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux redhat 6.2
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 21:47:05 -0500
mike wrote:
>
> i am tryiong to install linux on my compaq presario 5050
> i am currently running win 98 on drive c and win 2000 on drive d
> rawrite wont work in win 98 msdos so i cant make a floppy boot disc. and
> my cd rom isnt bootable.. has any one else had this problem?
> i burned the rom from an iso using easy cd creator and anytime i try to
> copy and paste a file like rawrite to another partition it says not ready
> reading drive f:(cdrom)this message also comes up when i try to run
> rawrite in msdos. does the partition have to be fat 16 or will fat32 do?
> any help would be appreciated.
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
I've seen complaints about not being able to run rawrite before,
but I haven't been able to reproduce that. It works fine for
me. Can you describe exactly what you did?
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Cable Modem???
Date: 21 Apr 2000 22:18:16 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 21 Apr 2000 20:30:03 GMT, Tom
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>I have Comcast Cable Modem service, and use a network card to connect to
>the internet. My card was supported in Redhat, but I switched to Suse,
>and now I have no idea how to connect to the internet. HELP!
0. figure out what type of network card you're using. You do know that,
right? If not, find out.
1. Become root
2. Start YaST
3. System Administration->Integrate Hardware into System->Config Network
Device
4. Select the card you have from the list.
5. System Administration->Network Config->use DHCP
6. init 3 (starts up new networking scripts, etc.)
The next time something unexpected happens, you might try Reading The Fine
Manual... there's a whole chapter in the dead-tree SuSE book about solving
problems like this.
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: Will XFS Support ACL's ?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 02:20:50 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Dan Star would say:
>Christopher Browne wrote:
>>
>> Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> would say:
>> >Does anyone know if if the open-sourced SGI XFS journaling file system
>> >will support Access Control List to get better control of file system
>> >security?
>>
>> Sure. It uses the standard Linux ACL toolset, as supported by GLIBC,
>> dpkg, RPM, and the standard ACL manipulators, getfacl, setfacl, and
>> such.
>>
>> [For the clue-impaired, there is no such toolset, and those tools
>> _don't_ support ACLs. See
>> <http://www.iu.hioslo.no/~mark/sysadmin/SystemAdmin.html#SEC193>.)
>>
>> <http://linux-patches.rock-projects.com/v2.2-f/pxacl.html> shows what
>> limited ACL support _does_ exist...
>
>But couldn't SGI be implementing ACLs independently of this effort for
>XFS on Linux?
I think they are trying to get a _WORKING PORT._
That journals.
That can be mounted.
That can be unmounted.
That doesn't crash much.
My suspicion is that their _next_ priority would be to get their logical
volume management system working.
I would expect ACLs to come in somewhere after that in terms of priorities.
--
"XFS might (or might not) come out before the year 3000. As far as kernel
patches go, SGI are brilliant. As far as graphics, especially OpenGL, go,
SGI is untouchable. As far as filing systems go, a concussed doormouse
in a tarpit would move faster."
--- jd on Slashdot
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - - <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/linuxkernel.html>
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Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
From: Kevin Huber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 21 Apr 2000 21:21:56 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harold Stevens ** PLEASE SEE SIG **) writes:
> |> Microsoft's most important
> |> innovation?
>
> "Bob" the GUI from Hell: a babysitter better sat by the babies themselves.
>
> [Snip...]
Bob gets a lot more crap than it deserves.
No wonder software companies can't seem to innovate - people are stuck
in such old ways of thinking. Take WYSIWYG. It basically duplicates
the limitations of paper on your computer, yet it was touted as such a
technical marvel. So you can screw around making your document look
ugly in a million different horrible ways. I'd rather use LaTeX 2e
for my pretty documents, thank you.
"Live" documents with embedded objects, links, and multiple views, the
kinds of things that actually do something powerful and
transformational with information. Easy publication of that
information to networked storage like the web. Now that's innovation.
Microsoft didn't invent groupware, hypertext, or document view
technology, it's been around since the 1960s. But Microsoft has a
fairly good integration of some of that technology in Office.
Microsoft's innovation is the commoditization of technology. Maybe
that's not as sexy as raw invention, but it sure does more for me than
million dollar systems I don't get to use. Linux brings little new to
the table. But it brings what it has to the masses. And that makes
all the difference.
While I hate Clippy and her annoying friends myself, I think the next
office software (r)evolution will be in that area - smart technology
that helps you manage tasks and information to mitigate information
overload and so on. "Sort my email by how important/interesting it
is". I believe that intelligent information management by digital
assistants will become popular and useful. Bob was just too early and
not quite right. Bruce Tognazzini has been promoting this kind of
stuff for a while (http://www.asktog.com).
-Kevin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Force fschk next reboot?
Date: 21 Apr 2000 22:24:02 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 21 Apr 2000 23:58:57 GMT, Ken Williams
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>How to do I tell my system to check the file system on next reboot? Isn't
>there something I can change on the superblock that tells the mounter to scan
>it first? Or change the max number of reboots to have expired?
man tune2fs
Or why wait until reboot? umount the filesystem, or mount it read-only,
and fsck it to your heart's content.
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: mounting CD-R results in "No medium found"
Date: 21 Apr 2000 22:33:46 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 21 Apr 2000 13:22:33 -0700, Aaron Ginn
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>> I've got problems with CD-Rs which have more then one session on them.
>> My linux box (Debian 2.2, kernel 2.2.14) cann't mount them, it sayes "No
>> medium found", though NT box with the exactly same CD-drive can. There
>> is something strange about those discs, for the NT represents filenames
>> on them in the 8.3 format, I don't know why... But it's better then
>I don't know for certain, but it could be due to Microsoft using
>Joliet extensions instead of Rock Ridge. You need to explicitly
Nope. CDs with Joliet extensions *also* have ISO9660 8+3 compliant
filenames, so that DOS won't barf. Regardless, try that, and also try
"enable vendor-specific extensions for CD-ROMs" since the docs there
explicitly say to try enabling this if you can't mount multisession CDs.
This is an odd problem; only time I've seen anything like it is when I was
trying to burn multisession CDs and got the session info wrong, producing
horribly munged TOCs all over the place...
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: nested loops in bash
Date: 21 Apr 2000 22:39:42 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 00:53:28 GMT, test
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>Why do nested loops not work in bash?
>#!/bin/bash
>acount=0
>bcount=0
>
>while [ $acount -le 9 ] ; do
> while [ $bcount -le 9 ] ; do
> echo mv b$acount$bcount.t a$acount$bcount.t
> bcount=$[$bcount+1]
> done
> acount=$[$acount+1]
>done
>What's the deal?
You've made a Silly Programming Error is what's the deal. Take another
look at the second while loop and the value of bcount upon exiting that
while loop. Use a for loop if you want for-loop behavior; use a while
loop if you want that....
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Trouble with the Korn Shell
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 21 Apr 2000 22:14:30 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Yns wrote:
>Tandem Guy wrote:
>>
>> Hello. I'm new to linux and have recently installed RedHat 6.0. I want
>> to use the Korn shell rather than Bash. I made the appropriate change
>> in the X-Windows Control Panel, and now I boot into Korn shell but I'm
>> having a problem. When I start an xterm session while I'm in X-Windows
>> my BACKSPACE and ARROW keys aren't working. When I hit BACKSPACE for
>> instance I see 'CTRL-H'. This only happens if I'm in an xterm window.
>> ...
>
>Your backspace problem can be solved by the following
>command in the xterm:
>
> stty erase ^H
>
>where ^H is the result of the backspace key press (CTRL-H)
>
>Modify the .profile to include the command.
>
This may not be a solution. Unfortunately the text console uses
"^?" for its "erase" key. So if you don't check to see if
you're running an xterm, you may not be able to use the backspace
key in the text mode. Likewise, if you put this in your .profile,
it may only be in effect for your login shell. I'm not sure if it
gets propagated to "child shells" i.e., other windows. So .kshrc
may be a better place to put in instead of .profile. Then you may
want to test the TERM variable to decide if you want to run stty.
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: Will XFS Support ACL's ?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 21 Apr 2000 22:24:11 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Christopher Browne wrote:
>>> >Does anyone know if if the open-sourced SGI XFS journaling file system
>>> >will support Access Control List to get better control of file system
>>> >security?
>>>
>>> Sure. It uses the standard Linux ACL toolset, as supported by GLIBC,
>>> dpkg, RPM, and the standard ACL manipulators, getfacl, setfacl, and
>>> such.
>>>
>>But couldn't SGI be implementing ACLs independently of this effort for
>>XFS on Linux?
>I think they are trying to get a _WORKING PORT._
>That journals.
>That can be mounted.
>That can be unmounted.
>That doesn't crash much.
>
>My suspicion is that their _next_ priority would be to get their logical
>volume management system working.
AIX puts ACLs in an "extended inode". If that's how it'll be done in
Linux, then the inode structure would need to be modified. Needless to
say, such provisions should be made at the beginning of the project, not
later.
However, I've noticed that the ext2 inode is 256 bytes in length, which is
twice the size of the inode record in AIX. I've always wondered what they
do with the extra bytes (although there are a few more datablock pointer in
the Linux inode). Anyone know of a good source for descriptive info about
the ext2 filesystem? One with such details...
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: linuxconf and "User accounts->Priveleges"
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 21 Apr 2000 22:33:58 -0500
In the "User Accounts" section, following the normal attributes for
users, there is a section "Privileges", which presumably permits
authorization of certain users to perform certain tasks, eg., "use
linuxconf". I've never been able to make these do anything.
I've also wondered how this is supposed to work, since Linux doesn't
seem to create privileged groups as in AIX, nor are there "ACL"s
which might do it.
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 20:31:04 -0700
From: Robert Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Modem Set Up
Denny Mejia wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I am using Mandrake Linux 7.0. I am new at this Operating System, so I
> would like you to help me. I am trying to set up my modem which, is a
> USROBOTICS 56k Voice INT V4.9.1. Device ID 5685. when I am using Mandrake
> I log in as root, then I type minicom and it tells me initializing modem
> please wait. But then again nothing happens.
> I would like you to tell me how can I set this modem manually. I want to
> know how to set up the IRQ's, the I/O , baud, and so on.
> Thank you,
> Denny
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
Assuming your problem is that you have a PNP modem, not a "Winmodem"
this is a repost of similar advice I gave to someone else:
==
Hi-
Try this...
(You must be root for most of these to work.)
1) run pnpdump:
/sbin/pnpdump > /etc/isapnp.conf
*** CHECK the file /etc/isapnp.conf doesn't exist before you do this ***
============
2) edit /etc/isapnp.conf for com port and irq; for example I have mine
on port 0x3f8, IRQ 4:
(CONFIGURE USR3090/4089300144 (LD 1
# Multiple choice time, choose one only !
..
# Number of IO addresses required: 8
(IO 0 (BASE 0x03f8)) <-- I uncommented this...
# IRQ 4.
# High true, edge sensitive interrupt (by default)
(INT 0 (IRQ 4 (MODE +E))) <------ and this...
# Start dependent functions: priority acceptable
...
# End dependent functions
(ACT Y) <--- ... and finally this.
))
# End tag... Checksum 0x00 (OK)
========
3) run:
/sbin/isapnp /etc/isapnp.conf
4) finally run (again, these show same settings I use for my card, yours
may be different):
/bin/setserial /dev/ttyS0 port 0x3f8 irq 4 uart 16550A spd_vhi
(if this works you can put this line in /etc/rc.d/rc.local or its
equivalent in your distribution and have this automatically done.)
---
Now you should be able to dial and set up PPP, etc.
========
HTH. Bob L.
--
Robert Lynch-Berkeley CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: fred smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arbitary precision libraries.
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 20:27:58 GMT
Robie Basak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: On Fri, 21 Apr 2000 11:21:41 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
:>Hi
:>
:>Does anyone know of any arbitary precision libraries for Linux?
: GNU has one; I can't remember the name. Check out:
: http://www.gnu.org/software/software.html
: it's in there somewhere.
It's:
libgmp
Fred
--
---- Fred Smith -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----------------------------
But God demonstrates his own love for us in this:
While we were still sinners,
Christ died for us.
=============================== Romans 5:8 (niv) ==============================
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From: "Eric Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.lang.java.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 04:07:09 GMT
"Roger Blake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Thu, 20 Apr 2000 22:38:30 GMT, Eric Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
[SNIP]
>
> Well, it is a clone of Unix, after all. :-) (See the book "The Unix
> Haters' Handbook" for an insight into some of Unix's problems.)
Who's the author?
> Linux does seem to have great promise. However, It is not really ready
> for the casual end-user yet. I have friends for whom I've set up dual-boot
> Windows/Linux systems and they seem to really like using Linux due to the
> noticably better stability. However, they can't handle even mundane
> tasks such as installing software by themselves (I help them out).
Windows'
> main strength is that little knowledge is needed to use it. At least until
> it breaks down.
I think we are agreed on this. Win2K may (or may not) change this, but as I
have said before, my prior experience with MS products makes me cautious.
--
Eric F. Peterson
Politically Incorrect and Proud!
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From: "John Riehl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: IPChains
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 04:08:02 GMT
Tim Haynes wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
are not as good for security as ipchains.
>
>Blargh? Surely this is a carrots-v-oranges statement
I have no idea what your point is. skip the analogies. people define
analogies with a forgone conclusion, regardless of the relevency. To quote
voltaire "A witty saying proves nothing".
I wrote my note to refute the claim to forget about ipchains and just use
tcpwrappers. these arent the same.
I consider ipchains "better" because of its wider scope. It can do the job
of tcpwrappers, limit users of specific resources to those coming from
specific addresses. There is no problem with using both. It can do more.
I consider "security" to encompass more than just telnet/ftp, more than just
services that inetd controls, more than just tcp-based services. In these
cases, tcp wrappers dont cut it. They dont secure it. (Inetd.conf doesnt
put tcpwappers around any other service by default, and of course, this
assumes that all services are inetd controlled). Exploits happen from all
these sources, and these exploits could undermine your
hosts.deny/hosts.allow files. You need to secure or eliminate all these
sources as well. But you know all this.
to quote Jason, "I want to setup an ipchains based firewall". I hardly
consider tcpwrappers "firewall" software. By "firewall" I would assume that
he meant more that just controlling telnet/ftp access on the end system. I
would assume that "firewall" also means traffic passing through the system,
which tcpwrappers wont touch.
jr
riehl at earthlink dot net
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