Linux-Misc Digest #238, Volume #24 Sun, 23 Apr 00 08:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Q3 Win32 on Linux? (nethack)
Re: Two mouses (Hamid Misnan)
Re: bash_profile setting (Floyd Davidson)
Re: Compilation troubles due to system or hardware ("Fabrice P. Laussy")
Re: Compilation troubles due to system or hardware ("Fabrice P. Laussy")
Re: Compilation troubles due to system or hardware ("Fabrice P. Laussy")
Re: voodoo 2000 video card problem (Doc Shipley)
Re: Caldera 1.3 vs Caldera 2.3 (Peter T. Breuer)
Re: Carp! (hoKEy wOLf)
Re: Linux & Sun IPC (Grant Edwards)
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From: nethack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.setup,rec.games.computer.quake.editing,rec.games.computer.quake.misc,rec.games.computer.quake.playing,rec.games.computer.quake.servers,sunyab.os.linux
Subject: Re: Q3 Win32 on Linux?
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 07:09:57 GMT
Look for linuxq3ded.tar.gz file. It is a standalone binary for quake3 dedicated
server only. It has a helpful readme for installing. Also you'll want to
download the latest linux quake3 patch and run it.
Edward M Grill wrote:
> Dear Quakers,
>
> i was wondering if anyone know how to, if at all possible, or perhaps
> lead me to information on installing the Win32 version of Quake 3 : Arena to
> Linux? i have a Official Liscensed version of Q3 for Win9X and was curious
> if i could port it to Linux ( Mandrake 7.0 ) ? All i want to do is set up a
> dedicated server, so perhaps just downloading the demo would be
> possible.....however, there are not patches for the demo and most people
> wouldn't want to connect to a old version....1.16n is the latest and the
> demo goes wayyyy back.
>
> any help will be greatly appreciated.
>
> eddie
>
> --
> *********************************
> SUNYAB CSE major
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "beware of the penguin....."
> (remove lma_ to reply)
> **********************************
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hamid Misnan)
Subject: Re: Two mouses
Date: 23 Apr 2000 05:16:43 GMT
On Tue, 18 Apr 2000 11:48:41 -0400, Thanh Le Ly wrote:
> Hello !
>
>Does anyone install 2 mouses in a same system ?
>I mean i have one wireless keyboard with a mice on this keyboard and i have
>also
>one USB Keyboard and one serial mouse. So i want to plug all these devices
>in my computer under Mandrake 70. I try to define 2 " Pointer " Section in
>XF86Config ( for 2 mouses ) but it didn't work . Anyone has some genius
>ideas to make all these devices work ?
You need to use gpm. I've done this before, a PS/2 & USB on my notebook.
--
|Mohd Hamid Misnan | http://www.mhmsys.com | [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
|AMD-Linux + iMac Bondi Blue RevB + PalmVx | [EMAIL PROTECTED]/mac.com |
- I believe the technical term is "Oops!"
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From: Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bash_profile setting
Date: 22 Apr 2000 22:50:16 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] () wrote:
>Floyd Davidson wrote:
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] () wrote:
...
>>>export PS1='[\u $PWD] $'
>>
>>No no no.
>>
>>export PS1="[\u \w] $"
...
>Yes yes yes.
>
>1. Because it works.
>2. Because it dosn't abbreviate the home directory to ~
Garsh, never occured to me that anybody would *want* that. ;-)
--
Floyd L. Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)
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From: "Fabrice P. Laussy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Compilation troubles due to system or hardware
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 10:10:20 +0200
Dances With Crows wrote:
> I'm not sure, but I *think* this is caused by problems with your RAM. gcc
> is very memory-intensive. Have you tried getting the memtest86 utility
> and checking out your system's RAM?
Well, now that's something done, but it reports no error. Please see my reply to
Grant Edwards herebelow, whose advices were related to yours.
> Conversely, it could be a problem with your gcc. Some versions of gcc
> were flaky wrt doing optimizations and complex things like that. what's
> the output of "gcc --version"?
my version is 2.7.2.3.
F.P.L.
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From: "Fabrice P. Laussy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Compilation troubles due to system or hardware
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 10:11:20 +0200
Robie Basak wrote:
> I reckon that some part of your filesystem has become corrupted; when
> fsck repairs after a crash, have you ever seen anything actually
> being fixed?
Well, hundreds time, yes, of course. This has ever resulted in *apparent*
lost of data, both system (instances are X fonts, files in /etc, or log
files) or personnal, especially those I was working on. Most of the time,
I'm looking in lost+found what has dropped dead, and try to see if there's
something I can do... Otherwise I let it go and hope for the best.
> If various programs do it, it is most likely to be your kernel image
> or part of glibc.
Well, I thought that too, so once I saved all my data, formatted the whole
disk, and installed a brand new system. The same day did I encounter
another very similar problem, thus excluding it was due to corruption of
files on the disk (because a non-corrupted file-system with non-corrupted
libc, etc..., brought up the same problem).
> Do an fsck manually first.
Every time I have to reboot brutally, fsck will force a check itself,
usually fixing some inodes with illegal blocks, and time to time needing
some manual repair from myself. Nothing tells however this is a problem
with the disk. Those are natural consequences of rebooting without
unmounting the fs first. I know I have ever lost data the way you say
(till the day I'll loose everything), but it seems like I still haven't
suffered problems on system sensible components (like a shared library).
The problem seems to be one of memory.
> You didn't say which distribution you were using; if Redhat then I
I'm using Debian. I've posted in a debian list a question about how to
reinstall something like the glibc (for Debian has a powerful yet annoying
system of dependencies I can't overcome).
Thanks for your help.
F.P.L.
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From: "Fabrice P. Laussy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Compilation troubles due to system or hardware
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 10:20:08 +0200
> On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 06:32:41 +0200, Fabrice P. Laussy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >I've got big problems with compilation. I can compile simple and
> >little C source, but I often encounter segmentation-fault when I
> >attempt to compile huge source.
>
> If it occurs randomly (not at the same point every time, or
> sometimes a file will compile and sometimes it won't), then
> it's almost certainly a hardware problem: flakey RAM, cache,
> overheated CPU, etc. There a sig11 FAQ at www.linuxdoc.org:
>
> http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/faqs/GCC-SIG11-FAQ
>
> [...]
>
> >If I can compile something, that's okay, but when a problem
> >arises once, it will be impossible to go through for this
> >programm intended to be installed, the fatal error occuring at
> >different places in the process of compilation (say, at the
> >very start, or near the end for another try).
>
> Definitely hardware. When it happend to me it was cache. Take
> a look at the sig11 faq file.
>
> --
> Grant Edwards grante Yow! Finally, Zippy
> at drives his 1958 RAMBLER
> visi.com METROPOLITAN into the
> faculty dining room.
I think we're close to the problem. I've looked carefully at your link
(Thanks!) and to Mr. Dances with Crows's memtest tool (apparently from the same
author), which track memory errors which result in the following events:
1. Signal 11 being received when compiling
2. Lots of disk corruption problems
3. X windows crashing often.
4. A generally unstable system.
Then, it happens that I meet this very four problems!
Anyway, of all my numerous memory tests I never was able to trace even one bit
error, though as claimed, that doesn't prove anything (what an enthralling
document!)
If the problem is one of bad-luck, due to so many pointers manipulations with
gcc compiling the kernel that it will break almost certainly, I wonder why is
that I can never compile through all of the Tk module which is such a little
innocent looking stuff. I've compiled gcc many times without problem, which is
a far tougher thing than pTk.
In the FAQ it is said those symptoms can be due to a poor filesystem too (and
refering to point 2., those are problems I have too).
There are things with my machine which sounds odd in regards to the FAQ. I
think they can interest you.
1) whenever a signal is caught and the compilation interrupted, my machine
*always* responds by failing to run anything else: I can't log anymore, can't
reboot, can't `ls', can't do anything but reboot in brute force, screwing up
the file-system. Either the command (such as `ls' will retourn a seg-fault, or
return nothing, hanging the terminal). Well, if the problem in the first place
was one of a bit to be flipped in gcc's internal memory, that wouldn't explain
this behaviour, would it?
2) on reboot (the brute force reboot following such a crash), I invariably meet
a problem in uncompressing Linux on startup. That runs "Loading linux..." and
hangs. I have to let the machine shut down (power off) for a minute or two, as
if for the memory to recover, and then reboot. There's mentionned in the FAQ a
problem with CRC, uncompressing Linux, mentionned as occuring time to
time. With me it's *all* the time.
3) This isn't only widely encountered with compilation. Netscape and
Mathematica, when those are having a great deal with the disk (Netscape) or CPU
(Mathematica), are often frozing the machine or bugging all the other
applications, just the same as for gcc... I thought before those were not
related
to my compiling failures but were software specifics. Now I'm fairly sure the
problem stems from what causes failure of compilation.
I'm afraid, due to the fact I have to reboot then repair the filesystem, I
won't be able to run all the tests adviced in the FAQ. I just cannot do
"another make", as asked, and thanks but I don't think I'll start a test that
will take me two or three months... I've tried a compilation of the Tk module
with the memory caches (both internal and external) removed. Apart from slowing
down up to 25 times the stuff, it didn't prevent a "segmentation fault" to
occur. So for me it isn't the cache...
I know we're close to the problem. You certainly found it right guys... Thanks
for it. Anyway, I think the solution will be to suffer it, as I do for years
now, and find a way to install Tk without compiling him... Fixing the hardware
doesn't seem a practical solution... better yet to buy a brand new machine.
Regards.
F.P.L.
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From: Doc Shipley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: voodoo 2000 video card problem
Date: 23 Apr 2000 04:33:04 -0500
Steve Martin wrote:
>
> Doc Shipley wrote:
>
> > The Voodoo3 is only supported in XFree86 v3.3.5 and later.
>
> Not quite true... it's supported by the SVGA driver in
> 3.3.3, as that's what I'm running right now. I'm currently
> typing this on a system with a VooDoo3 2000 running 1024x768x32
> and it works like a charm.
Unpatched, with 3D?
--
Doc Shipley
Network Support
TARL Labs, UT
Austin, Texas
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter T. Breuer)
Subject: Re: Caldera 1.3 vs Caldera 2.3
Date: 23 Apr 2000 11:43:19 +0100
Matt Friedman ("mwf"@total.net(remove-to-reply)) wrote:
: Now, there are people out there who'll use COL 1.3 and just upgrade the kernel,
: but you don't want to do this if you have no experience with Linux. Go with COL
: 2.3. You'll be happier, and you'll be more likely to become a concert from that
: other OS.
He has my symphony ;).
Peter
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From: hoKEy wOLf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.non.sequitur,alt.how,alt.conspiracy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Carp!
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 07:02:26 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Castrodale
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Unit 4 wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 23:41:38 GMT, David Castrodale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote, in alt.conspiracy.microsoft:
> >
> > }
> > }
> > }hoKEy wOLf wrote:
> > }>
> > }> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Castrodale
> > }> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > }>
> > }> > Axel wrote:
> > }> > >
> > }> > > David Castrodale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> enjoys the great taste of
> > }> > > beef:
> > }> > >
> > }> > > >
> > }> > > >
> > }> > > >hoKEy wOLf wrote:
> > }> > > >>
> > }> > > >> In article <MPG.136a85f359845955989690@news>, Maynard
> > }> > > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > }> > > >>
> > }> > > >> > then The Queen of Cans and Jars said:
> > }> > > >> > > Nealworm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > }> > > >> > >
> > }> > > >> > > > On Thu, 20 Apr 2000 02:49:39 GMT, David Castrodale
> > }> > > >> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > }> > > >> > > > spake thusly:
> > }> > > >> > > >
> > }> > > >> > > > >
> > }> > > >> > > > >
> > }> > > >> > > > >Maynard wrote:
> > }> > > >> > > > >>
> > }> > > >> > > > >> then Axel, the Half-naked College Student said:
> > }> > > >> > > > >> > the portable jim carleton
> > }> > > >> > > > >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > }> > > >> > > > >> > enjoys the great taste of beef:
> > }> > > >> > > > >> >
> > }> > > >> > > > >> > >This, from Axel, the Half-naked College Student:
> > }> > > >> > > > >> > >
> > }> > > >> > > > >> > >>the portable jim carleton
> > }> > > >> > > > >> > >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > }> > > >> > > > >> > >>enjoys the great taste of beef:
> > }> > > >> > > > >> > >>
> > }> > > >> > > > >> > >>>alt.home.repair is alive and doing well! oh
> > }> > > >> > > > >> > >>>well, i
> > }> > > >> > > > >> > >>>guess i
> > }> > > >> > > > >> > >>>hace to
> > }> > > >> > > > >> > >>>cnacel its adotpion.
> > }> > > >> > > > >> > >>
> > }> > > >> > > > >> > >>You cannot undo what has been done.
> > }> > > >> > > > >> > >
> > }> > > >> > > > >> > >ok, i guess i'll hace to persent mieself to tehm
> > }> > > >> > > > >> > >as
> > }> > > >> > > > >> > >theyre god.
> > }> > > >> > > > >> >
> > }> > > >> > > > >> > Shouldn't be too difficult to convince them.
> > }> > > >> > > > >>
> > }> > > >> > > > >> just brandish your grout trowel a lot.
> > }> > > >> > > > >
> > }> > > >> > > > >write them a "novel"
> > }> > > >> > > >
> > }> > > >> > > > a bowl of cherries in hell
> > }> > > >> > >
> > }> > > >> > > give me some water, the only thing that i want
> > }> > > >> >
> > }> > > >> > it's not just for dousing fires anymore
> > }> > > >>
> > }> > > >> bill gates can fire anyone he wants, thanks
> > }> > > >
> > }> > > >DAER MICRSOTF: HI I JSUT BUOGHT TEH WINDOWS 89 ADN I DNOT NKOW
> > }> > > >BUT I
> > }> > > >TIHNK TAHT IT ISS BROKEDED BECAUES WHEN I PUHS S BUOTTN OAN TEH
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> > }> > > >TEHN A
> > }> > > >LIHGT
> > }> > > >COEMS ON ADN EVRYTHNIG GETS REALYL HOTT, BUT MYABE ITS BECAUES
> > }> > > >I
> > }> > > >TIHNK
> > }> > > >TAH T MAYBE MY COMPUTRE IS JSUT A MICROWAEV, I DNOT KNWO CAN
> > }> > > >YUO HLEP
> > }> > > >ME?????/??
> > }> > >
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> > }> > >
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> > }> > > direct
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> > }> > >
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> >
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> >
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>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: Linux & Sun IPC
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 22:32:14 GMT
On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 19:52:12 GMT, Neil Cherry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>I have acces to a Sun IPC which has a pretty bad case of corrupted
>unix on it. I'd like to load a version of Linux on it. My first
>question is how? Anyone know of any howto's for the Sun IPC? I have
>access to SCSI cdrom drives so hooking one up isn't a problem.
Put a RH 6.2 SPARC CD in the cdrom, and do "boot cdrom" from
the ROM monitor prompt (assuming it's got the new-style monitor
commands). Otherwise do the "b (whatever)" command to boot
from the CD.
Then just answer the questions that the installer asks you.
It's a piece-o-cake -- easier than installing Linux on a PC.
IMO, it's easier than installing Solaris on a Sun (but I
haven't done Solaris for a couple years, maybe it's gotten
better).
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! ... Blame it on the
at BOSSA NOVA!!!
visi.com
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