Linux-Misc Digest #440, Volume #24 Thu, 11 May 00 18:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: FreeBSD and Linux (Leslie Mikesell)
Rewritable DVD drive drivers ("Jay Braun")
Re: /dev (Peter T. Breuer)
Re: "can't open...module.dep" +lilo trouble ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: RHLinux 6.2 FTP install problems (Sam E. Trenholme)
samba printer woes...now LPRng (Patrick O'Neil)
Re: ps printer configuration (Sam E. Trenholme)
Re: FreeBSD and Linux (Andreas Kahari)
Re: new lilo yast Klilo (Sam E. Trenholme)
Re: wmmon on WM (Sam E. Trenholme)
Re: samba printer woes...now LPRng (Sam E. Trenholme)
Re: .wmf and .vsd files (Sam E. Trenholme)
Re: Linux Printers (Sam E. Trenholme)
Re: FreeBSD and Linux (brian moore)
Re: Samba and win98 on same hard drive (Sam E. Trenholme)
Re: Turbo Linux Server Boot.img ??? (Sam E. Trenholme)
Re: telnet out of network issue (Sam E. Trenholme)
Re: help! first kvt now netscape won't start (Sam E. Trenholme)
Re: Printer does not work in Linux (Sam E. Trenholme)
Re: Turbo Linux Server Boot.img ??? (Harlan Grove)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Linux
Date: 11 May 2000 16:02:02 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Dances With Crows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>4. Why isn't there something like the ports system in Linux?
>
>Have a look at Debian's apt-get. It's not quite the same, but provides
>something similar. Also, *BSD development is far more centralized than
>Linux development, so it's easier for the maintainers to say that ports
>will be included and done in such and such a way.
Yes - each major distribution has it's own way of packaging things.
If you have done something odd to your libraries so the abundently
available binaries won't work the sources are also available. With
rpm based distributions you would grab an srpm and use rpm --rebuild.
>>5. Is FreeBSD a real UNIX? Is Solaris? Linux seems to be not
>>UNIX...Unix...unix?
>
>Unix is a registered trademark of Bell Labs, and as such, only OSes that
>contain code from there and/or have been vetted/approved by Bell Labs can
>legally call themselves Unix. Hence, Gnu's Not Unix and Linux Is Not
>UniX. BSD may have a better claim to being "Real Unix" than Linux does,
>since the original BSD source contained some code from Bell Labs IIRC.
I think they walked away from that claim when BSDI was being sued
by AT&T over that very issue. Since the lawsuit was settled out
of court I guess we have to take their word for it.
Les Mikesell
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From: "Jay Braun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Rewritable DVD drive drivers
Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 13:55:40 -0700
Are there any drivers out there for rewritable DVD drives like those
manufactured by Creative and HP?
Jay
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter T. Breuer)
Subject: Re: /dev
Date: 11 May 2000 21:01:03 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Andrew M. Lewis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: While this thread is still up, I could use some help: I deleted the three
: character devices for lp0, lp1, and lp2 from /dev. Big mistake. How do I go
: about re-creating them? Anyone know what is required in the mknod command?
lm002:/usr/oboe/ptb% ll /dev/lp*
crw-rw---- 1 root 6, 0 Mar 3 1999 /dev/lp0
crw-rw---- 1 root 6, 1 Mar 3 1999 /dev/lp1
crw-rw---- 1 root 6, 2 Mar 3 1999 /dev/lp2
(see devices.txt in the kernel Documentation dir)
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: "can't open...module.dep" +lilo trouble
Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 21:13:35 GMT
In article <8fcr75$90n$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Alexander K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> i just installed slackware7 on my puter. a skeleton install. less than
> 300meg, no X. it came with kernel 2.2.13
> i got kernel 2.2.15 and installed it. (my NIC works now:) woohaa!)
> i did:
> make clean
> make dep
> make menuconfig
> make bzImage
> make mrproper
>
> and i get this error when i boot linux (its among the last 15rows):
> Updating module dependencies for Linux 2.2.15
> can't open /lib/modules/2.2.15/modules.dep
I had essentially this same stupid problem just today, one of dozens over
months of trying to get the IDE CD-RW burner to work again. I fixed this
with:
cd /lib/modules/2.2.15
depmod -a
(There was an old version of [modules.dep] which never was updated after
repeatedly recompiling the kernel -- I noticed this and killed it before
doing the above. Geez, it would have been nice for this stuff to be
documented much more clearly ...).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam E. Trenholme)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: RHLinux 6.2 FTP install problems
Date: 11 May 2000 14:26:34 -0700
>*transferring
>"ftp://128.105.22.12/pub/mirrors/linux/redhat/redhat-6.2/i386/RedHat/base/stage2.img
Hmmm, did you actually look to see if the above file exists. It doesn't
on the FTP server in question:
ftp> pwd
257 "/pub/mirrors/linux/redhat/redhat-6.2/i386/RedHat/base" is current directory.
ftp> ls
200 PORT command successful.
150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls.
total 22224
drwxrwxr-x 2 mirror 16819 2048 Apr 1 15:15 .
drwxrwxr-x 4 68552 28552 2048 Apr 1 15:16 ..
-r--r--r-- 1 mirror 16819 9322 Mar 9 04:51 comps
-r--r--r-- 1 mirror 16819 7029684 Mar 10 00:34 hdlist
-r--r--r-- 1 mirror 16819 2135829 Mar 9 02:33 hdstg2.img
-r--r--r-- 1 mirror 16819 2197746 Mar 9 02:33 netstg2.img
226 Transfer complete.
The file is also not on any other mirrors, nor the Official RH 6.2 CD.
However, stage2.img exists on my RH6.1 CD. Conclusion:
* You can't do FTP installs of RH6.2 using RH6.1 boot disks.
Solutions:
* Use RAWrite (or dd if you already use Linux) to make a RH6.2 boot disk
* Install RH6.1 via FTP instead
* Make a RH6.2 CD from an ISO image, and boot from the CD (can your
computer boot from a CD)
* Buy a $2 RH6.2 CD from your choice of (LinuxCentral.com, LinuxMall.com,
CheapBytes.com, or LSL.com)
* Buy a $30 official RH6.2 set from a local computer store. This also
comes with a boot disk.
- Sam
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From: Patrick O'Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: samba printer woes...now LPRng
Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 15:27:05 -0600
I have had nothing but problems trying to get my Mandrake 7.0
system to print to a windows shared printer via samba. I
have used printtool and linuxconf on separate occassions to
try to setup a windows networked printer but it NEVER works.
I got tired of the lack of error messages or anything else
to indicate what the hell was going on so I dumped lpr
and replaced it with LPRng instead. I dumped my setup
printers (lp and lp0) and started over with printtool.
I created my samba printer shares, both simple postscript
printers that I can connect to directly with smbclient -
but even then I still cannot get them to print anything.
I tried printing the ascii test page and I get an error:
Error printing testpage to lp
Error reason: Status information:
sending job 'root@dummy227-139+451' to lp@localhost
connecting to 'localhost', attempt 1
connected to localhost
requesting printer lp@localhost
sending control file 'cfa451root@dummy227-139' to
lp@localhost
error 'LINK_TRANSFER_FAIL' sending file to lp@localhost
job 'root@dummy227-139+451' transfer to lp@localhost
failed
Finally, an error message (thank you LPRng)!! lpr doesn't give
squat. In any case, I don't know what the problem is given this
error message. What is a "LINK_TRANSFER_FAIL"? How do I fix
this? I would hope that if I can figure out this particular problem
I might actually (FINALLY) get printing to work to the local
windows shared printers.
Anyone have any input that will help me with this situation given
the above message?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam E. Trenholme)
Subject: Re: ps printer configuration
Date: 11 May 2000 14:29:01 -0700
> :if=/var/spool/lpd/lp/filter:\
And what happens when you type in
cat foo.ps | /var/spool/lpd/lp/filter | lpr
Enquiring minds want to know.
- Sam
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From: Andreas Kahari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Linux
Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 21:18:21 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Vermillion) wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, frans abels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >I have been experimenting with FreeBSD lately, comparing it to Linux.
> >Here are some questions that I still have
>
> >1. FreeBSD runs Linux binaries. Does this mean that I can install a
> >FreeBSD kernel
> >in a Linux distribution?
>
> kernels aren't binaries and vice-versa.
I think he ment something on the lines of "If FreeBSD can run Linux
binaries, then why not replace the Linux kernel with a FreeBSD kernel
and use emulation to run all Linux applications?", or maybe "Why not
make a GNU/FreeBSD system?!".
/A
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam E. Trenholme)
Subject: Re: new lilo yast Klilo
Date: 11 May 2000 14:30:10 -0700
>How can I indicate to yast or Klilo to use my brand new lilo with -L or
>"lba32" command to load correctly lilo ???
Well, if yast or klilo fails, you can just run your new lilo as root from
the shell prompt.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam E. Trenholme)
Subject: Re: wmmon on WM
Date: 11 May 2000 14:31:46 -0700
>I am running WindowMaker on Red Hat 6.0, and have recently installed the
>wmmon monitoring application. Unfortunately, it keeps telling me that I
>do not have enough free color cells.
>
>Video-wise, I am running an ATI Rage IIc video card & a Sony CPD-17SEt
>monitor at 1024 x 768 @ 75MHz. I'm not sure if that is what it is
>screaming about, but it is my best guess at this point.
Are you running X in 256-color mode, 65536 color mode, or in true color
mode? You can set this up with this command:
Xconfigurator
You will probably be better off if you run X in true color mode.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam E. Trenholme)
Subject: Re: samba printer woes...now LPRng
Date: 11 May 2000 14:35:26 -0700
>Error printing testpage to lp
What does your /etc/printcap look like?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam E. Trenholme)
Subject: Re: .wmf and .vsd files
Date: 11 May 2000 14:37:17 -0700
>I have a few documents (graphics gen'd in MS) that I need to open
>in linux with .wmf and .vsd extensions. Is there a linux app that can
>handle these?
Probably not, since Microsoft thrives on creating their own formats that
other programs can not grok.
That said, see if Staroffice or Word Perfect can grok those files.
- Sam
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam E. Trenholme)
Subject: Re: Linux Printers
Date: 11 May 2000 14:39:28 -0700
>Does anyone know which brands offer a real postscript printer? Are
>there any brands that work especially well in Linux?
HP has some nice real PS printers.
- Sam
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Linux
Date: 11 May 2000 21:43:26 GMT
On 11 May 2000 16:02:02 -0500,
Leslie Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Dances With Crows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >>5. Is FreeBSD a real UNIX? Is Solaris? Linux seems to be not
> >>UNIX...Unix...unix?
> >
> >Unix is a registered trademark of Bell Labs, and as such, only OSes that
> >contain code from there and/or have been vetted/approved by Bell Labs can
> >legally call themselves Unix. Hence, Gnu's Not Unix and Linux Is Not
> >UniX. BSD may have a better claim to being "Real Unix" than Linux does,
> >since the original BSD source contained some code from Bell Labs IIRC.
>
> I think they walked away from that claim when BSDI was being sued
> by AT&T over that very issue. Since the lawsuit was settled out
> of court I guess we have to take their word for it.
Not really. You don't actually need any AT&T code to call yourself
Unix(tm). You do need to pay money to The Open Group and pass some
tests. See
http://www.unix-systems.org/questions_answers/can_i_use_the_trade_mark.html
for pretty much that, with no disclosure on the fees. :)
The Unix trademark and the Unix codebase went their seperate ways years
ago: the trademark went to X/Open which has since been absorbed by the
Open Group, and the code went to SCO via Novell (which also sold
'unlimited licenses' to Sun and others before selling off the remains).
So BSDI or FreeBSD or even Linux -could- be called Unix... if someone
thought it was worth the trouble for the branding, which is questionable
these days. Each group already has a valuable brand name.
See http://www.unix-systems.org/market_information/may29.html for an
interesting side note: Linux may at one point become Unix(tm).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam E. Trenholme)
Subject: Re: Samba and win98 on same hard drive
Date: 11 May 2000 14:45:26 -0700
>so I need help configing samba so that I can mount the win98 partition so
>that it is accessible when running linux
This is not what you use Samba for. You use Samba for accessing a Windoze
share from a separate, currently running Windoze machine on your network.
What you want to use is mount, as in something like:
mount /dev/hda1 /mnt
Where /dev/hda1 is the partition containing your Windows files.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam E. Trenholme)
Subject: Re: Turbo Linux Server Boot.img ???
Date: 11 May 2000 14:47:00 -0700
>I downloaded the latest boot.img and extrahw.img from TurboLinux site,
>but could not tell if there is supposed to be a different boot.img for
>the server version. I'm wanting to install the TurboLinux "Server" as
>the install starts it has a welcome screen that reads Turbo Linux
>Workstation 6.0.40SE. That is why I think I have the Worstation
>boot.img.
You can use the 'diff' command to see if the files differ, as in:
diff workstation_boot.img server_boot.img
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam E. Trenholme)
Subject: Re: telnet out of network issue
Date: 11 May 2000 14:55:17 -0700
>When I do the same thing while running my Win install I have never had
>this problem.
Of course not. With raw telnet, you have to wait for the server to
respond to what you are typing. Over a low internet link or a dial-up
connection, you will feel the delay.
The way Windoze avoids this is simple: Your mud client only sends the
command after you type it, so there is no network delay in the actual
typing of this command.
>I need my MUD fix and can't get it with Linux.
You just need to know where you can get the kool mud fix.
May I suggest TinyFugue, aka tf.
You can find a binch of tf RPMs here:
http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/TByName.html
Starting with:
http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/suse/6.3/i386/suse/fun1/tf-40s1-42.i386.html
Looks like SuSE already comes with this wonderful program. Try typing
this at the command prompt:
tf
You probably will want some help using this client. Look up 'Tiny Fugue'
at www.google.com, or, more simply:
man tf
I believe you open up a MUD simply with
/open name.of.mud.server port
As in
/open mud.example.com 6969
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam E. Trenholme)
Subject: Re: help! first kvt now netscape won't start
Date: 11 May 2000 14:59:33 -0700
>I don't know whats happening. Frst I can't launch kvt as a user, now netscape
>doesn't launch anymore.
I don't know what is happening either. Time to investigate and
troubleshoot this problem.
What happens when you open up a terminal (the picture of a computer screen
next to a seasheel that *should* be on your panel on the bottom) and try
running Netscpae, Kvt, or whatever from the terminal?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam E. Trenholme)
Subject: Re: Printer does not work in Linux
Date: 11 May 2000 15:02:54 -0700
>bject:
> RE: Linux
> Date:
> Thu, 11 May 2000 11:30:47 -0400
> From:
> TEAMXRX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To:
> "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
Who hoo! That totally rocks, that the companies making these products are
responding to questions being asked here!
- Sam
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From: Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Turbo Linux Server Boot.img ???
Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 14:51:57 -0700
In article <8ff9ok$459$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam E. Trenholme) wrote:
<snip>
>You can use the 'diff' command to see if the files differ,
>as in:
>
> diff workstation_boot.img server_boot.img
cmp would be quicker.
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