Linux-Misc Digest #483, Volume #24 Tue, 16 May 00 07:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: WYSIWYG web page generator (elemental)
Re: Help with 'user', 'w', 'who' commands (Andreas Kahari)
installation problems ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux (GIRISH PATIL)
Re: can't access the floppy disk ("Quiney, Philip [HAL02:HH00:EXCH]")
Re: Help on glibc and SuSe6.1 (Thomas Hommel)
Re: 2 network cards: problems, but more clues! ("Steve Cox")
question about partition format ("bear")
setting back partition 1 active (Wong Fat Keung)
Re: Linux compared to Windows 2000 (Matthew King)
Re: NIS problems ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Problem Slackware 7.0 : NFS, bash ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: FreeBSD and Linux ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: trying to install vmware (Peter T. Breuer)
Re: Installing Office2000 (Andrew Purugganan)
Re: visual IRC client for Linux?! (Sean)
Copying Harddisk ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: VIRUS ALERT- Linux/*BSD honour virus found (Clueless Bozo)
Re: Redhat6.2 Network bug ?? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Upgrading to RH 6.2 (Rod Moten)
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From: elemental <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: WYSIWYG web page generator
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 00:07:47 -0700
So this Mark Wilden character tells us...
#
# elemental wrote:
# >
# > I write and test most of my HTML in Windows because that's what the
# > majority of the clients are using.
#
# Which Windows? Which browser? Which screen resolution? Which colour
# depth? Which monitor size? Which screen-reader? How many of these
# combinations do you (or can anyone) test?
Enough to cover the majority, and that goes for just about everything you
mentioned (OS, browser, resolution, etc)
# And what about the minority who don't use Windows? Blow them off?
No, you apparently didn't read the rest of my post, or possibly ignored
it. Here, quoted for your convenience...
>Regardless, I test on Windows, MacOS and Linux, with a variety of
>browsers (and browser versions) before anything goes live. See? Using
>the tools that do the job to my, my clients, and my viewers,
>satisfaction.
# I'm not an HTML purist by any means. But by writing standard HTML that
# makes sense on any platform, you'll increase your audience, and make
# more money.
#
# Testing Web pages is like testing software: you've got to do it, but it
# doesn't substitute for writing the code right in the first place,
# because you can't test everything.
You are correct, which is why all my current HTML validates as XHTML 1.0
and most of my older stuff validates as HTML 4.01.
elemental
From the ashes of liars grow the flowers of hope...
<http://www.synaesthetic.net/~elemental/>
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From: Andreas Kahari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help with 'user', 'w', 'who' commands
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 07:08:50 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am having a strange problem with commands that are supposed to give
me
>
> info on users currently logged in on my linux box. For instance, when
I
> remotely connect to my linux machine while another user is logged in
on
> tty1, I'll run the 'users','w', 'who', etc. command to see what they
> say. In return I only get listings pertaining to my userid. The only
> way that I know another user is logged in is because when I run a 'ps
> -ef' I can see processes started by another individual and which are
> related to X-Window. I guess my question is where do the 'users', etc.
> commands get their info from (/etc/passwd?)? Are there any adjustments
> that I can make to a particular file in order to get these commands to
> work properly? Why are they not working? Also, when I issue the
'talk'
>
> command to another user on the same machine, I get an error message.
> I'm assuming that this is because Linux, for some reason, isn't
> recognizing the other userid (or could it be because the other user
> doesn't have an X-term open?). Logging in as root and running 'users',
> etc. doesn't help any. Nor do the man pages. Any help with this
issue
> is very much appreciated.
I started using 'rxvt' instead of 'xterm' some time ago, and I found
that I could not see myself when issuing 'who' or 'w' (this was running
Solaris at work though).
/A
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: installation problems
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 07:17:57 GMT
Im installing RH 6.0 from CD on to an Intel machine. The process goes
smoothy until I reach the choose an installation class section. No
matter which one I choose sooner or later I get the error "failed to
open /tmp/syslog no such file or directory". One of the console
windows has the last message that says "no scsi devices are avaliable."
Any ideas how to solve this?
Neil.
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From: GIRISH PATIL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 07:30:04 GMT
Hi
Girish here thanx for all th pain u have taken to wirte me and send such a
good advice, i will follow the same
Wishing u all the best in your future and hoping u will always be co-
operative
Take care
girish
Steve wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, 15 May 2000 17:34:14 GMT, GIRISH PATIL wrote:
> >1) I want to learn linux from scratch from where should i begin, like
are
> >their any site which will give all the information for a beginner.
> >2) Is their a difference in the O.S for different purposes, if so then
> >please let me know in general if i am going to use oracle.
> >3) Where can i learn about Oracle 8i.
>
> I'd suggest a good place to start is a book such as Learning Red Hat
Linux
> by O'Reilly or Running Linux also by O'Reilly. I've got both of these
> books and use them frequently.
>
> A good website to give you some of the basics and some of the essentials
> is Patricia's site at:
>
> http://www.crosswinds.net/~beginnerslinux
>
> You can also get the Meta-FAQ and a lot of other documentation from
> http://www.linuxdoc.org the Meta-FAQ will answer many general questions
> about the OS and about where to find further information and resources.
>
> So read the Meta-FAQ, have a good look at Patricia's site, if you're
still
> interested buy a Book (Learning RH Linux mentioned above comes with a RH
6.0
> CD), and if you're still interested after reading the first two or three
> chapters of the book go ahead and install.
>
> It's a very steep learning curve so be prepared to do a lot of reading,
and
> it's well worth the effort.
>
> --
> Cheers
> Steve email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> %HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee 0 pps.
>
> web http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~sjlen/
>
> or http://start.at/zero-pps
>
> 10:14pm up 19 days, 15 min, 5 users, load average: 1.37, 1.20, 1.17
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From: "Quiney, Philip [HAL02:HH00:EXCH]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: can't access the floppy disk
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 08:12:19 +0100
mark wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I am trying to access my floppy for no avail. when i type the command:
> mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
> I get the error message:
> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/fd0 or too many
> mounted file systems.
> I get this error message from a fresh redhat 6.1 installation, I also get
> even after i recompiled the kernel and inculded all the that is needed "file
> systems,.." but still no luck.
>
Hi,
Was the floppy formatted? Were you logged in as root? Does /mnt/floppy
exist? Mount won't like it if not. You may need to check the permissions
on /mnt/floppy otherwise non-root users won't be able to write to it.
Failing that have you tried the 'mtools' suite?
You should be able to do things like
mdir a:
mcopy file.* a:
mformat a:
Check man mtools
p.s
For formatting a floppy under Linux - there are easier ways such as
'kfloppy' ;-)
fdformat /dev/fd0H1440
which does a low level format of a 1.4M floppy...followed by (pick one)
mkfs -t msdos /dev/fd0
or
mformat a:
which write the filesystem
Regards
Phil Q
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From: Thomas Hommel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help on glibc and SuSe6.1
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 09:55:42 +0200
Hi
I also use SuSE 6.1 and I think it�s glibc 2.0 based.
If you really need glibc 2.1, I�d recommend updating to SuSE 6.4. I once
tried updating it by hand and screwed up the whole system.
Tom
Arul wrote:
>
> I have SuSe6.1 linux on my PC. I wanted to install glibc 2.1
> on my PC and downloaded it from GNU. I have the following
> problem (ld.so.map file not found while compiling /elf subdir)
>
> make[1]: Entering directory `/opt/glibc-2.1.2/elf'
> gcc -nostdlib -nostartfiles -shared -o ld.so \
> librtld.os \
> -Wl,--version-script=../ld.so.map -Wl,-soname=ld-linux.so.2
> /usr/i486-linux/bin/ld: cannot open linker script file ../ld.so.map: No
> such file or directory
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> make[1]: *** [ld.so] Error 1
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/opt/glibc-2.1.2/elf'
> make: *** [elf/subdir_lib] Error 2
>
> Please help. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>
> BTW: Is Suse 6.1 is glib 2.0?, I do have libc.so.6 in /lib, does
> this mean I have glib?.
>
> -Arul
>
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From: "Steve Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: 2 network cards: problems, but more clues!
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 09:00:24 +0100
Could you post your netstat -rn results and also the output from ifconfig
for each NIC?
Steve
David Oh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> For what it's worth, I am having the *exact* problem with my 2 NIC setup.
> The only exception is that my problem is reversed.
>
> I'm connected to the internet with eth1 and my internal network with
> eth0. Whereas you ARE able to access the internet on your eth0 and NOT
> your internal network on your eth1, I CANNOT access the the internet on
> eth1 but can access my internal network on eth0.
>
> With the exception of the switch, are configurations are identical. Ping
> results are identical and traceroute results are almost identical (I don't
> get the multiple interfaces error, but I do get the *'s)
>
> Is it possible that there is a problem with the configuration of our
> NICs. It looks like we can both access our networks assigned to eth0 and
> cannot recieve packets on eth1.
>
> Any help from the "gurus" would be appreciated.
> Dave
>
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From: "bear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: question about partition format
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 20:33:49 +1200
Hi, all
I use Redhat Linux 6.0. After I install Linux successful, I would like to
add more disk space for Linux. So I use fdisk create a new extend partition
for Linux. And I successful to do it too. But after that, I don't know how
to format the partition and mount it. Could anyone help me?
Thanks
Bear
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wong Fat Keung)
Subject: setting back partition 1 active
Date: 16 May 2000 08:23:22 GMT
Dear all,
I've set up linux (red hat 6.0) in new partition with a few OS
in other partition. I need to manually using fdisk to set back the
active partition to 1. How can I do it automatically when I logout?
Best regards,
Teres
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From: Matthew King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux compared to Windows 2000
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 08:42:48 GMT
In comp.os.linux.development.apps Amit Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am looking for a good survey, concerning Linux (mainly RedHat) VS.
> Win2000.
Why mainly RH? RH is not considered `THE' linux (at least not by me ;)
If you're more interested in easy and quality of sysadmin, suse may be a
good comparison. If technical ability of the system, DIY or slackware (i'm
told) would be more interesting
But have fun, this kind of thing has never been done before :-)
Matthew King
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: NIS problems
Date: 13 May 2000 07:17:50 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Peter Buzanits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I have installed a NIS server (ypserv) on a SuSE Linux 6.3 box and the client
: (ypbind) on another one. Works, but has two problems:
: On the client, I added the following lines to /etc/passwd:
: +::::::
: +pb:::::/home/test:/bin/sh
: +:*::::::/bin/bash
: to give the user pb /bin/sh as shell. But when I login as pb on the console at
: the client, it loads the default shell from the server's passwd (/bin/false).
You have miscounted colons, I think. There should be six in a line. E.g:
+::65535:-1:::
: Second problem: When I change the users password as root on the server (passwd
: username) and rebuild the maps, the user has still to logon with the old
: password. But when I make
He would if he appears in passwd.
: ypmatch username passwd.byname
: on the client then the (encrypted) new password is shown. Even it doesn't work
: at login. Then, after some minutes it works without problems with the new
: password... Seems that the map is not synchronized with the client immediately.
: Can I force this immediate synchronization?
There are caches in both ypserv and ypbind. Kill and restart both to
be abolutely sure. I never trust makedbm -c, myself.
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem Slackware 7.0 : NFS, bash
Date: 12 May 2000 20:40:08 GMT
Herve Gautier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: The NFS protocol seems to not work correctly with suid.
It works fine. Just the way it's supposed to.
: When I execute a suided binary executable, I've got a
: message as if the processus haven't the good id...
What has this to do with NFS? Is your executable on an NFS directory?
Are YOU on an NFS directory? Details please! If you mean "have I
mounted this import with suidexec options?", then only you can tell us
by showing us the contents of yoru fstab.
And you ARE aware that NFS by default maps user root to nobody?
And that linux won't trust shared libs on NFS imports, or new
executable imports? All these things I hope are covered in the NFS
faqs.
: There is 2 bash program :
: /bin/bash
: /bin/bash1
: I don't why, but the /bin/bash shell seems to have a bug
Yes, that's right. It's bash2 and it's buggy as hell. Why not show the
authors your test script? After having read the list of syntax changes
between bash1 and bash2, or course ...
: because the test [ -a file ] always return 0...
: Any suggestions ?
See above (in summary, read before writing!).
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Linux
Date: 12 May 2000 23:24:12 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Alexander Viro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
: Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: [snip]
:>--
:>((LAMBDA (X) (X X)) (LAMBDA (X) (X X)))
: If you didn't do it by hands I'm very impressed - sigmonster picking
: the perfect Subject: for this thread...
Eh? A self-applying function applied to itself? This wouldn't be the
fixpoint operator ...
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter T. Breuer)
Subject: Re: trying to install vmware
Date: 12 May 2000 23:12:19 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kev ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: - The real time clock function must be compiled into your Linux kernel
: - VMware for Linux requires that the parallel port "PC-style hardware"
: option (CONFIG_PARPORT_PC) be built and loaded as a kernel module (that
: is, it must be set to "m").
: how do I tell if the real time clock function is compiled into my Linux
: kernel? And if it isn't, how do I do it?
You probably can't (well, you can test, but ..).
: Same goes for the "PC-style hardware" option. I scanned their technical
: notes, but am none the wiser.
This you can tell by looking at what modules you have loaded or have
available. Man lsmod. In any case, why would you care? Rebuild the
kernel to your taste.
Look at the .config file that came with your distros kernel source in
/usr/src/linux. It may give you a clue as to your current setup.
If you want to avoid this kind of doubt in future, you really need my
proconfig kernel patch. It's at
ftp://oboe.it.uc3m.es/pub/Programs/proconfig-0.8-current.tgz if
you feel up to some kernel compiling.
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Re: Installing Office2000
Date: 16 May 2000 10:04:49 GMT
John Loukidelis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I thought the members of this group would get a kick out of the
: following: today I installed M$ Office2000 at work: no fewer than
: five (5) re-boots were required by the installation process (ie the
: re-boots were not required because of OS crashes).
: Does anybody know why so many re-boots were necessary?
Hmmm, let's see, it's a suite, you're actually installing 4packages, with
a fifth thrown in, one reboot for each:
1. ms word
2.ms excel
3. ms powerpoint
4. ?what am i missing? EULA software?
and your honor, 5. Internet Explorer bundled in as always, which we shall
identify as Exhibit A. ;-)
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From: Sean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: visual IRC client for Linux?!
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 06:12:26 -0400
Just do a search on freshmeat.net .... offhand I can think of quite a
few, licq, everybuddy, gnomeicu ... and I'm sure there are more.
Sean
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I am looking for a sort of equivalent of Visual IRC that would run on
> my Linux mandrake 6.1 box. I got one running under Windows 98 but it
> hangs the whole system so often that it makes me crazy! :-)
> Anyone please help me! Where can I get something like a visual IRC
> client for Linux???!!!
> Thanx,
> Narcyz
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Copying Harddisk
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 10:08:37 GMT
Hi !
I have two identical Harddrives. I want to copy the data of one to the
other. Using dd "if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb" is much slower than a DOS tool
we used earlier - but this one seems to have Problems with our new disk
size of 8GB.
It takes about 2 hours using dd, but we expected it to take about half
an hour.
Any ideas ?
Robert Schulz, Herzogenrath, germany
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Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 06:51:37 -0400
From: Clueless Bozo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: VIRUS ALERT- Linux/*BSD honour virus found
Thomas Zajic wrote:
>
> On Tue, 16 May 2000 01:54:33 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > ALERT ALERT ALERT ALERT NOT SO ALERT
> >
> > To all Linux and *BSD users, a new virus has been detected that is
> > specifically targeted at you.
> > [ ... ]
>
> *LOL* Nice one. :-)
You need to get out more.
CB
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: tw.bbs.comp.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Redhat6.2 Network bug ??
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 10:42:19 GMT
Are you using Redhat 6.2?
I use 6.1 and this problem does not exists.
When I change to 6.2, this problem exists and I cannot solve it.
This rare problem does happens in my Tulip.o network cards.
I tried to reinstall it 4-5 times with my netgear(tulip) NIC and it fail
to communicate with other hosts through my new DLINK10/100 Switch after
I unplug the RJ45 for 150-200 seconds and replug the RJ45 again.
> If you are using the modular network drivers there is a fair
> chance that 'rmmod drivername'
> followed by 'insmod drivername' and 'ifup devicename'
> will wake it up. This does seem like an odd problem, though.
> I don't think I've ever seen it with either Netgear or Intel NICs
> and Cisco 10/100 switches.
>
> Les Mikesell
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <8fqmdb$tg0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell) wrote:
> In article <8foao8$g0s$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >Yes, you are right, I tried all of them and only reboot could bring
it
> >up. Any ideas? Do u think it is the interface MAC address problem? I
had
> >forwarded this problem to redhat inc. I hope they could solve it.
>
>
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From: Rod Moten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Upgrading to RH 6.2
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 10:53:33 GMT
Hi, I'm trying to upgrade an SMP system with a Mylex Raid card from RH
5.2 to RH 6.2. However,RH's installation script fails because it says an
error occurred because it can't read my partition table. What's strange
about this error is that I'm running RH 5.2 without any problem. I also
have NT installed. Do you think that this problem is caused by NT? Some
of my students believe that NT is locking the MBR. Do you think if I
removed NT that this problem would go away?
Rod
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