Linux-Misc Digest #532, Volume #24 Sat, 20 May 00 10:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (Ray)
Re: Gnome DPMS (Cyprien LAPLACE)
LILO problem with large IDE disk (Cyrille Artho)
Cannot use large IDE disk w/ fdisk (Cyrille Artho)
Re: My Corel Linux box doesn't shutdown (Steve)
Re: less core puts BASH in command mode?? (Steve)
grep syntax question (sleddog)
Netscape spell checker in 472 (David Kirkpatrick)
Re: Upgrade RH5.1 to 6.2 kernel complile problem (Mark Bratcher)
Re: GODDAMN PRINTER!!! (Mark Bratcher)
Re: serial mice & cheap motherboards ? (Mark Bratcher)
Re: grep syntax question (Wolfgang Fritz)
Re: grep syntax question (Mark Bratcher)
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (Full Name)
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (Full Name)
Tekram DC315U/Adaptec AVA-2904 support? (Jan Morgenstern)
Re: grep syntax question (Paul Colquhoun)
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (Doug Alcorn)
Re: Anyone find VMware kernel version hassles? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (Doug Alcorn)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ray)
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Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 10:42:18 GMT
On 19 May 2000 21:27:13 -0500, Leslie Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>> I want a tool that, after you put together your concept of the perfect
>>>machine, would upload a packaging description that would allow anyone else
>>>to duplicate that exact software selection so they only have to deal with
>>>the specific local configuration (IP address, users, etc.).
>>
>>On Debian that would be:
>>
>>"dpkg --get-selections > packages.dpkg" on master machine
>>"dpkg --set-selections < packages.dpkg" on new machine
>
>How graceful is it about hardware differences?
The above shouldn't change your hardware config. at all. In Debian hardware
configuration is pretty much a manual affair anyway.
> And is there
>a way to do a subsequent update (including adding/removing as
>well as updating packages) on the master so the copies can
>track along?
I imagine you could repeate the above any time you wanted to sync the client
machines' packages but I can't say I've ever tried it. Most people just use
"apt-get update" "apt-get upgrade" to keep their packages up to date. If
you have several machines that you really want to stay identical then you
might be better nfs mounting the / dir from the server or maybe using rsync.
> What if source changes are done and things
>recompiled? Can the package be rebuilt and loaded from
>an alternate location on the copies?
You can have lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list like:
deb ftp://USER:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/my_custom_debs/local
and then put any custom built packages on your ftp server.
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Ray
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From: Cyprien LAPLACE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Gnome DPMS
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 12:42:47 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Matthew Haley wrote:
> Yes, here's what my Device section looks like:
>
> Section "Device"
> Identifier "Primary Card"
> VendorName "Trident Microsystems"
> BoardName "Trident TGUI9685 (generic)"
> ClockChip "tgui"
> # Chipset "tgui9685"
> VideoRam 4096
> Option "tgui_pci_read_on"
> Option "tgui_pci_write_on"
> Option "pci_burst_on"
> Option "accel"
> Option "linear"
> Option "power_saver" # Enable DPMS
> EndSection
>
> But, I am running XFree 3.3.6, and I don't know if things have changed in 4.0
>
> --
> Matt Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Now showing... Linux-Mandrake 7.02
This is my new version of Section Device :
Section "Device"
Identifier "MII 4Mo"
Driver "mga"
#VideoRam 4096
VideoRam 4096
# Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate
Option "power_saver" # Enable DPMS
EndSection
but nothing more ! it doesn't work :-(
is the command "xset dpms force off" must
turn off my monitor ?
This morning, i was on text mode, and the monitor
has switched off... but not under X.
??
Cordially, Cyprien
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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 12:47:15 +0200
From: Cyrille Artho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LILO problem with large IDE disk
I have a dual boot Linux/NT system; so far, it worked with no problem. I
had two IDE disks and one SCSI disk. The latter contains the Linux root
file system (including /boot) and Kernel. I booted from the IDE MBR. NT
is on /dev/hda1.
I now added a large (40 GB) IDE disk. LILO now stops at "LI". If I
disable the hard disk in the BIOS, it works again.
I changed the setup so the system boots from the SCSI disk. This works,
although I cannot boot the NT partition anymore; LILO does not find the
NT boot loader. I had to specify "disk=/dev/sca\nbios=0x80" to make it
work.
LILO prints no warnings, though, when I re-install it on the MBR with
the third HD enabled, and still cannot boot.
It is documented as a "known bug" that LILO can get confused with large
IDE harddisks. I tried "linear" and "lba32" (with the new LILO), to no
avail. Does anybody know how I can make the boot loader work?
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Regards,
Cyrille Artho - http://artho.com/ - Tel. +41 - [0]1 - 313 08 92
Murder is always a mistake -- one should never do anything one cannot
talk about after dinner.
-- Oscar Wilde, "The Picture of Dorian Gray"
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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 12:47:57 +0200
From: Cyrille Artho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Cannot use large IDE disk w/ fdisk
I added a large (40 GB) IDE disk to the system. I had problems with LILO
and the BIOS, so I disabled the HD in the BIOS.
Unfortunately, Linux does not discover the correct number of cylinders
(using Kernel 2.2.12). I tried to override this when partitioning the
hard disk. However, as soon as I quit fdisk, the system "forgets" the
physical layout again, and fdisk shows:
Disk /dev/hdd: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 870 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hdd1 1 2048 16450528+ 83 Linux
Partition 1 has different physical/logical endings:
phys=(1023, 254, 63) logical=(2047, 254, 63)
/dev/hdd2 2049 4982 23567355 83 Linux
Partition 2 has different physical/logical beginnings (non-Linux?):
phys=(1023, 254, 63) logical=(2048, 0, 1)
Partition 2 has different physical/logical endings:
phys=(1023, 254, 63) logical=(4981, 254, 63)
Even though I could initially format the disk without getting error
messages, I then found out that Linux uses the physical layout, mapping
different sectors on the same target! This resulted in some "funny"
results, including duplicate blocks, corrupt inodes, and a kernel panic
when trying to umount the file system. Certain corrupted files cannot be
removed anymore (rm blocks the entire system), and I lost some data
(since I originally thought the drive could work without using the
BIOS). I now have copied all the data back, so I can re-partition the
hard drive.
How do I tell Linux the number of cylinders? How can I use the drive if
I disable it in the BIOS?
--
Regards,
Cyrille Artho - http://artho.com/ - Tel. +41 - [0]1 - 313 08 92
Murder is always a mistake -- one should never do anything one cannot
talk about after dinner.
-- Oscar Wilde, "The Picture of Dorian Gray"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Subject: Re: My Corel Linux box doesn't shutdown
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 20 May 2000 12:50:13 GMT
On Fri, 19 May 2000 23:30:05 GMT, Nelson Lainez wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Every time I try to logoff in my Corel Linux box, it freezes.
>Any help?
Have you removed any filesystems or a cd or floppy that's
mounted at startup? What do you see on the screen when
it freezes?
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Cheers
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%HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee 0 pps.
web http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~sjlen/
or http://start.at/zero-pps
2:30am up 2 days, 10:35, 6 users, load average: 1.11, 1.03, 1.01
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Subject: Re: less core puts BASH in command mode??
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 20 May 2000 12:50:14 GMT
On 19 May 2000 18:57:14 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>ps. still so many mystery programs, maybe I'll finally get around to making a
>list of all the programs in /bin /sbin/ /usr/bin... w/ a one line description.
>Does this already exist? It would be nice if they were grouped by function...
You can do whatis filename or apropos filename and q to exit.
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Cheers
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (sleddog)
Subject: grep syntax question
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 11:55:45 GMT
System is RedHat 6.0.
I'm trying to grep my syslog for entries for the current day. In other
words, I want to run grep in a script to output all syslog entries for
the current day.
I know that
date '+%B %d'
gives me the current date in format "May 20" as used in the logfile;
And that
grep <exp> /var/log/messages >/tmp/today
is what I want to output;
But I can't get the syntax right to put the date command into the grep
command:
grep date '+%B %d' /var/log/messages >/tmp/today
grep "date '+%B %d'" /var/log/messages >/tmp/today
grep (date '+%B %d') /var/log/messages >/tmp/today
are all wrong.
An elementary question I suppose, but it has me frustrated. Any help
appreciated.
--
sleddog
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From: David Kirkpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape spell checker in 472
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 08:22:31 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
On Netscape with NT, 98 & etc. I have a spell checker. I
thought I had on for Netscape on Linux but its not there. I do
not mail much from Linux so possibly I had the spell checker
before in 4.6 and the spell checker was not in the upgrade to
4.72. Composer does have the spell checker but I'm looking for
the integration like in Netscape on NT. Is there a way to make
Netscape have the spell checker integrated in to Messenger like
on NT?
David Kirkpatrick
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From: Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Upgrade RH5.1 to 6.2 kernel complile problem
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 08:15:01 -0400
Rick Lim wrote:
>
> I have a problem when I make a new kernel,
> when I make modules_install the modules install into
> /lib/modules/2.0.34 instead of /lib/modules/2.2.14
>
> does anyone have a fix for this ???
Sounds like you really built 2.0.34.
Look in your high level Makefile. The first few lines define the kernel
version number pieces. These macros are used to created the directory
name for the modules installation.
Also, you could look at /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h to see if
that says 2.2.14. This is not used for the modules directory, but would
be a nice sanity check to see if you really have 2.2.14 source.
HTH
--
Mark Bratcher
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Escape from Microsoft's proprietary tentacles: use Linux!
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From: Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: GODDAMN PRINTER!!!
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 08:19:43 -0400
Praedor Tempus wrote:
>
> This is not a linux question so much as a generic hardware
> question. I have an epson stylus color 600. I erroneously
> sent a bad printjob to the printer and now can't get the
> damn printer to quite trying to print it.
>
> I sent a jpeg directly to the printer instead of via some
> graphics app like ee or kshow. Now, whenever I turn on the
> printer, it spits out page after page of crap. It prints
> a line or two of ascii garbage at the top of the page and
> then spits it out and goes on doing the same thing with
> page after page. I have sat here running the same
> bundle of paper thru the printer again and again hoping that
> it would finally dump it's buffer but nooooooo.
Well, cursing God won't help :-), but what might help is to read up on
the lp queues and how to manage them (man lpr, and man lpc). You didn't
mention how you sent the file to the printer (lpr? cp to /dev/lp?), but
you probably have the job queued up and even rebooting Linux does not
kill the job. You must delete it from the queue. Linux is quite
tenacious about getting print jobs printed unless you explicitly cancel
them.
In short, it's not the printer's fault.
HTH
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From: Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: serial mice & cheap motherboards ?
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 08:27:16 -0400
Mike Keiser wrote:
>
> a while ago, I bought a board w/out ps2 support (sigh), and
> strangely enough have been unable to get any mouse to work
> through my serial port. this applies to both x and the general
> console - apparently my box isn't detecting the thing at all.
>
> I've tried all the basic solutions, read countless howto's, and
> gotten various friends to help me mess around with some
> interesting serial hacks, but all to no avail. any ideas?
First, what serial port are you connecting it to (assuming your
motherboard is equipped with 2 of them). I assume the "first" one, which
would be COM1 under DOS or Windoze.
When Linux boots, watch for a message about ttyS00 that gives IRQ and
I/O address, etc. Or check /var/log/messages for a similar message. This
would indicate whether Linux saw the serial port when it booted. If it
did, then it's a configuration issue.
To configure, login as 'root' or boot into single-user mode and run
'mouseconfig'. Here's the fun part: if you have a generic no-name mouse
you have to know what it's personality is. Chances are, it's a Microsoft
serial mouse, 2-button, so try that first. If that's not it, maybe it's
emulating a Logitech.
HTH
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From: Wolfgang Fritz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: grep syntax question
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 14:31:08 +0200
sleddog wrote:
>
> System is RedHat 6.0.
>
> I'm trying to grep my syslog for entries for the current day. In other
> words, I want to run grep in a script to output all syslog entries for
> the current day.
>
> I know that
> date '+%B %d'
> gives me the current date in format "May 20" as used in the logfile;
>
> And that
> grep <exp> /var/log/messages >/tmp/today
> is what I want to output;
>
> But I can't get the syntax right to put the date command into the grep
> command:
> grep date '+%B %d' /var/log/messages >/tmp/today
> grep "date '+%B %d'" /var/log/messages >/tmp/today
> grep (date '+%B %d') /var/log/messages >/tmp/today
> are all wrong.
>
> An elementary question I suppose, but it has me frustrated. Any help
> appreciated.
>
> --
> sleddog
grep "`date '+%B %d'`" /var/log/messages
(note the backticks) works for me (in bash).
Wolfgang
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From: Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: grep syntax question
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 08:29:29 -0400
sleddog wrote:
>
[snip]
> grep <exp> /var/log/messages >/tmp/today
> is what I want to output;
>
> But I can't get the syntax right to put the date command into the grep
> command:
> grep date '+%B %d' /var/log/messages >/tmp/today
> grep "date '+%B %d'" /var/log/messages >/tmp/today
> grep (date '+%B %d') /var/log/messages >/tmp/today
> are all wrong.
>
You want to execute the date command "in-line" so use the "back quotes":
grep `date '+%B %d'` /var/log/messages > /tmp/today
These 'back quotes' would be described in the shell manual (eg, man
bash).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Full Name)
Crossposted-To:
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Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 13:00:05 GMT
On 18 May 2000 12:19:01 GMT, "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>: There's just no excuse for not having an adequate installer. We have
>
>The installers I have are very adequate (make and tar). And from what
>I've seen the distros have excellenet installers too. I can understand
You can't be serious. Make and tar are "installers"???
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Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 13:05:15 GMT
On 18 May 2000 09:50:55 +0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Victor Wagner)
wrote:
>
>: 1. A streamlined, easy install process;
>
>Disagree. System should be installed by competent techinicans in
>computer shops. Windows is not any more easy to install than say
>Mandrake 7.0, only user do it much more frequently, so get used to it.
>
What can someone say to such a stupid statement.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan Morgenstern)
Subject: Tekram DC315U/Adaptec AVA-2904 support?
Date: 20 May 2000 13:40:56 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Does anyone know whether the Tekram DC315U and Adaptec AVA2904 controllers
are supported by the SCSI subsystem? I didn't find any information about
those cards in any Linux hardware base. If anyone has experience with one of
those controllers, I'd really appreciate some comments.
Thanks in advance,
Jan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Colquhoun)
Subject: Re: grep syntax question
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 13:49:43 GMT
On Sat, 20 May 2000 08:29:29 -0400, Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|sleddog wrote:
|>
|[snip]
|> grep <exp> /var/log/messages >/tmp/today
|> is what I want to output;
|>
|> But I can't get the syntax right to put the date command into the grep
|> command:
|> grep date '+%B %d' /var/log/messages >/tmp/today
|> grep "date '+%B %d'" /var/log/messages >/tmp/today
|> grep (date '+%B %d') /var/log/messages >/tmp/today
|> are all wrong.
|>
|
|You want to execute the date command "in-line" so use the "back quotes":
|
| grep `date '+%B %d'` /var/log/messages > /tmp/today
|
|These 'back quotes' would be described in the shell manual (eg, man
|bash).
But to get the 2 parts of the retuned date interpreted as 1 word, you
may need to go 1 step further and use:
grep "`date '+%B %d'`" /var/log/messages > /tmp/today
Lets nest all 3 sorts of quotes, just for fun.
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Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
From: Doug Alcorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 14:01:06 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Full Name) writes:
> On 18 May 2000 12:19:01 GMT, "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >: There's just no excuse for not having an adequate installer. We have
> >
> >The installers I have are very adequate (make and tar). And from what
> >I've seen the distros have excellenet installers too. I can understand
>
> You can't be serious. Make and tar are "installers"???
>
tar xzvf package-name-X.Y-Z.tar.gz
cd package-name-X.Y-Z
./configure
make
make install
The onlything Peter left out was autoconf. Granted, not every user
wants to use this install method; however, an install method it is.
Many, many people have used it as such.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Anyone find VMware kernel version hassles?
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 13:57:24 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Michael Kelly
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>I downloaded the VMware to try it out and when I try to
>configure it tells me none of the prebuilt modules will work
>with my kernel. When I tell it to try to build those that will,
>it tells me the headers in the kernel source tree don't match
>the running kernel. Huh?
And? Set the link /usr/src/linux to point to your sources which you've
used to compile your kernel with. Works for me since 2.2.4., now
running 2.2.15.
>Anyone having kernel version hassles with VMware?
Yes, the modules of 1.x Versions don't build with 2.3.99 Versions -
dunno 'bout VMware 2.x.
HTH,
Uli
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Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
From: Doug Alcorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 14:07:11 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Full Name) writes:
> On 18 May 2000 09:50:55 +0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Victor Wagner)
> wrote:
>
> >
> >: 1. A streamlined, easy install process;
> >
> >Disagree. System should be installed by competent techinicans in
> >computer shops. Windows is not any more easy to install than say
> >Mandrake 7.0, only user do it much more frequently, so get used to it.
> >
>
> What can someone say to such a stupid statement.
To some extent I agree. Installing an operating system is not for the
faint of heart. I would _never_ ask my mother (or my dad for that
matter) to install an operating system.
While I don't think OS installs are the exclusive domain of
technitians in computer shops, operating systems don't install
themselves. MS-Windows nearly installs itself mainly because it makes
all kinds of decisions for you. I think that Mandrake and RedHat are
fairly easy to install. I'm sure others are as well, but I've never
tried any of them. The only think I find really lacking is on screen
documentation explaining what the options mean. Mandrake tries and
makes a good effort, but still needs improvement.
--
(__) Doug Alcorn (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.lathi.net)
oo / Win a 66GB capacity tape drive. Help me win too!
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