Linux-Misc Digest #562, Volume #24               Mon, 22 May 00 18:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Compose key in rxvt? (Grant Edwards)
  Re: Slackware7 and XFree4 (Apple Advertising)
  Re: What kernel in Debian/GNU 2.1? (John Hasler)
  Re: Slackware or Debian (John Hasler)
  Re: Motif release to Open Source Community leads to Open Motif Everywhere (Daniel S. 
Riley)
  Re: Sending cookies to /dev/zero (brian moore)
  Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux ("Anthony W. Youngman")
  Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux ("Anthony W. Youngman")
  Re: What kernel in Debian/GNU 2.1? (brian moore)
  Re: AppleTalk (Apple Advertising)
  better atd (News Reader)
  Commercial: 1u rackmount servers May special! (Allen Ahoffman)
  Re: Is OpenGL hardware accelerated? ("John Hill")
  Debian and X ("Ruben Haugan")
  ls syntax (Christopher Michael Collins ())
  Re: time sychronisation on Linux/NT (John Hasler)
  DMA probs (sound card) (PoD)
  Re: Slackware or Debian (James Silverton)
  Re: how to enter a bug report against linux? (brian moore)
  Re: time sychronisation on Linux/NT (News Reader)
  lots of crc errors w/ RH6.1 (Erik Taraldsen)
  Re: How to split text file into two files that have ODD and EVEN pages. (Derek 
Colley)
  Re: can't run X as root (Frank Boehme)
  Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (JEDIDIAH)
  Re: site wide search capability (Bob Koss)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Compose key in rxvt?
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 20:37:25 GMT

I can't figure out how to enable the "compose" key in rxvt.  It
works in xterm and some other apps, but not in rxvt.  I've
searched the web, usenet, and sent queries to the rxvt mailing
list to no avail.

I'm sort of guessing it's a configuration problem with the RH
6.1 installation of rxvt, but I'm not positive.

-- 
Grant Edwards                   grante             Yow!  It's NO USE... I've
                                  at               gone to "CLUB MED"!!
                               visi.com            

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From: Apple Advertising <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Slackware7 and XFree4
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 15:45:23 -0500

Did you install X-development libraries when you installed Slack? If you
just installed the binary X v4, you may still have to d/l and install the X
v4 development sources to get these files. Don't forget you also have to
install the development/compiler options in Slack in order to compile
anything.

- Ken

DB wrote:

> On my Slack 7 box I had to install XFree4 because it has better support
> for my video card. But I don;t seem to be able to compile programs. I
> installed almost all of the components of XFree4. I XFree4 seem to use a
> different directory stucture that previous versions. When I try to
> compile things I get errors such as:
>
> Xlib.h: no such file or directory (this is indeed nowhere on my hard
> drive)
> and
> Can't find X includes
>
> Maybe I just need to create a few symlinks? Can anyone help? I've read
> docs and searched dejanews to no avail.
>
> Any clues?
>
> DB


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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What kernel in Debian/GNU 2.1?
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 19:08:56 GMT

Brian Moore writes:
> Yes, though it's trivial to update it (and to update slink to potato when
> potato is released).

Or to update to it right now.  Or to update to woody, for that matter.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin

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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Slackware or Debian
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 19:07:20 GMT

Scott Bishop writes:
> The two reasons are twofold: one, Debian, like a lot of distros, goes for
> an "everything-but-the-kitchen-sink" approach to what software they
> include with the distro.

I don't understand this.  Why is it a disadvantage to have thousands of
packages to choose from?  You don't have to install anything but the base
and required packages: a few tens of megabytes.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daniel S. Riley)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Motif release to Open Source Community leads to Open Motif Everywhere
Date: 22 May 2000 16:51:50 -0400

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (phil hunt) writes:
> >> Which Unix do IBM recommend for the S/390. Is it:
> >> (a) Linux
> >> (b) AIX 
> >
> >or (c) OS/390 (formerly called MVS)
> 
> Is this a Unix?

http://www.s390.ibm.com/products/oe/bpxa1mau.html

OS/390 UNIX system services are XPG4 UNIX 95 branded, so, from a
particularly annoying legalistic trademark perspective, OS/390 is
UNIX and Linux is not.
-- 
Dan Riley                                         [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wilson Lab, Cornell University      <URL:http://www.lns.cornell.edu/~dsr/>
    "History teaches us that days like this are best spent in bed"

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: Sending cookies to /dev/zero
Date: 22 May 2000 20:55:37 GMT

On Mon, 22 May 2000 13:33:56 -0700, 
 M. Leo Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A simple, but effective way of dealing with cookies is:
>   rm -f ~/.netscape/cookies
>   ln -s /dev/null ~/.netscape/cookies
> This keeps the cookie jar permanently empty without user intervention, while
> at the same time permitting access to sites that require acceptance of
> cookies. It of course does nothing to the cookies kept in memory. I will also
> mention that those persons, like myself, who use Lynx should take care of the
> ~/lynx_cookies file.
> 
> The question I would ask is what effect it would have to link the cookies file
> to /dev/zero, rather than /dev/null, i.e., ln -s /dev/zero ~/.netscape/cookies.
> I know that attempts to read /dev/zero generally hang the calling program,
> and the only way to do it successfully is with a hex editor. I would
> speculate that a web server that tried to read a cookie file linked to
> /dev/zero just might have a few problems. I am a bit apprehensive about
> trying this, lest I be accused of hacking or outright sabotage.

You can do it if you want, but you'll most likely break your own machine.

/dev/null on write: a bottomless pit
          on read: a continous end of file

That's just what you want -- a place to dump cookies and when you read
the file will look empty.

/dev/zero on write: a bottomless pit.
/dev/zero on read: a continuous stream of zeros

That would be bad: again, you would discard all the cookies you received,
but when you started up netscape and it tried to find the cookie file, it
would be presented with an infinite stream of NUL's, which it wouldn't
like much.  If you're lucky, it would stop reading after a while and give
up trying to make sense of the cookie jar.  More likely, though, it will
end up reading NUL's from the file until you kill it.

A remote web server doesn't read your cookie file: your browser does.

-- 
Brian Moore                       | Of course vi is God's editor.
      Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker     | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting
      Usenet Vandal               |  for it to load on the seventh day.
      Netscum, Bane of Elves.

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From: "Anthony W. Youngman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 19:00:50 +0100
Reply-To: "Anthony W. Youngman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Horst von
Brand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>On Fri, 19 May 2000 20:20:25 +0100,
>  Anthony W. Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>[...]
>
>>Also, aiui, rpm is sadly broken compared to dpkg... If a package has a
>>"required" dependency registered with dpkg, you can be pretty sure that
>>trying to run the dependent package will fail if the required package
>>isn't installed. On the other hand it was a devil of a job to install
>>SuSE *without* installing OSS and ISDN4LINUX because rpm said these
>>packages were "required" - on a bare-bones system with no sound or isdn
>>card. And I gather it's rpm's fault, not SuSE - those packages may be
>>required, therefore they must be marked as required, therefore the
>>system tries to force you to install them :-(
>
>Sorry, no. Neither dpkg nor rpm can find out on their own which packages are
>required for others to work (at least not in the general case). If the
>package maintainer gives the wrong dependencies, it's his fault.

You misunderstand me ...

I am led to believe (in other words I may well be wrong...) that rpms
basically have a required/not-required status. If the system MAY require
a package, then either it is flagged as required and the system tries to
make you install it, or it's not flagged and gets ignored.

dpkg has far finer graining - required (ie it'll break without it), and
various other grainings. So in my example OSS and ISDN4LINUX should be
flagged optional. SuSE/rpm apparently has no way of marking something as
optional.

In other words, it's not the package maintainer's fault if the
maintenance package has no way of correctly marking-up the dependency.
-- 
Anthony W. Youngman - wol at thewolery dot demon dot co dot uk
Witches are curious by definition and inquisitive by nature. She moved in. "Let 
me through. I'm a nosey person.", she said, employing both elbows.
Maskerade : (c) 1995 Terry Pratchett

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From: "Anthony W. Youngman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 19:02:56 +0100
Reply-To: "Anthony W. Youngman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Maciej Golebiewski
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>"Anthony W. Youngman" wrote:
>> And as a result of SuSE predating RedHat, SuSE rpms are incompatible
>> with RedHat ones :-( I wish they'd switch to dpkg, but I bet there would
>
>Since when? I always install RedHat as the base system (SuSe's layout of init
>scripts etc. gives me a headache) and then install application rpms from SuSe.
>Everything is working seamlessly (mostly).

Every time I've tried to install an RH rpm on SuSE, it's given me
dependency nightmares. SuSE use a different rpm naming convention, and
apparently that's the cause :-(
-- 
Anthony W. Youngman - wol at thewolery dot demon dot co dot uk
Witches are curious by definition and inquisitive by nature. She moved in. "Let 
me through. I'm a nosey person.", she said, employing both elbows.
Maskerade : (c) 1995 Terry Pratchett

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: What kernel in Debian/GNU 2.1?
Date: 22 May 2000 20:58:05 GMT

On Mon, 22 May 2000 19:08:56 GMT, 
 John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Brian Moore writes:
> > Yes, though it's trivial to update it (and to update slink to potato when
> > potato is released).
> 
> Or to update to it right now.  Or to update to woody, for that matter.

Yep, though some days dist-upgrade works better than others. :)

-- 
Brian Moore                       | Of course vi is God's editor.
      Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker     | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting
      Usenet Vandal               |  for it to load on the seventh day.
      Netscum, Bane of Elves.

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From: Apple Advertising <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AppleTalk
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 16:01:03 -0500

As the other poster stated, AppleTalk is the network interface, LocalTalk would
be the Mac equivalent to the newer USB on PC's (only slower).

I currently have Interex EC-10BT LocalTalk (AAUI) to 10-Base-T adapter (I think
we paid ~ $5US for it). This allows our Apple's to connect to the local ethernet
network without having to install a separate network card. Be cautious though,
as the other poster stated it may only be a 1.5-2M speed for the localtalk side
wich would equate to a slower transfer speed over a 10M speed network.

- Ken

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> When I last compiled my kernel, I seem to recall an AppleTalk option.  Can
> someone confirm that 2.2.14 can use this protocol?  If so, do I need a
> special card to connect to my IIsi?  Also, since the IIsi is a 20mz machine,
> would ethernet significantly outperform AppleTalk?


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (News Reader)
Subject: better atd
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 21:01:52 GMT

Is there any thing better than atd in that I can que
job with precision of seconds NOT minutes like atd?
Or does anyone know a better way?


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From: Allen Ahoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Commercial: 1u rackmount servers May special!
Date: 22 May 2000 21:04:27 GMT

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From: "John Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is OpenGL hardware accelerated?
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 22:21:28 +0100

Of course openGL is hardware acelerated. Have a look at the entire
range of SGI IRIX boxes. They all feature some hardware acceleration,
but if you pay $US500,000 you get more accelerated than if you pay
US$10,000......not suprisingly.
The new nvidia cards have OpenGL hardware acceleration and
should deliver stunning performance on quick PCs...


Andreas Rottmann wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus) writes:
>>
>> > > > : 3. A DirectX-like platform for hardware-accelerated devices, not
>> > > > :    necessarily at the kernel level;
>>
>> > > > Whats wrong with OpenGL?
>>
>> > > The fact that it's not hardware-accelerated?
>>
>> > Of course it is hardware accelerated.
>>
>> No.  It isn't.
>>
>> It may have the potential to be accelerated at some point in the
>> future, but, as of this writing, it is not.  NVIDIA has flatly stated
>> that they will not be doing hardware-accelerated OpenGL until XF86
>> 4.0.  As XF86 4.0 is not the official XF86 at this point, there is
>> not, officially, any hardware-accelerated OpenGL at this point.
>>
>What about Mesa-Glide?
>
>> > The entire idea of OpenGL is wrapping hardware
>> > acceleration. Everything in the OpenGL API is centred around making
>> > effective hardware accelerated implementations possible.
>>
>> Actually, I think the entire idea of OpenGL is making available a
>> high-level 3D API to the user.
>>
>But some part of OpenGL can be delegated to 3D hardware.
>
>Andy
>--
>Andreas Rottmann (Dru@ICQ, 54523380@ICQ)
>Pfeilgasse 4-6/725, A-1080 Wien, Austria, Europe
>http://www.penguinpowered.com/~andy/
>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[one of 78,35% Austrians who didn�t vote for Haider!]
>



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From: "Ruben Haugan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Debian and X
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 23:14:17 +0200

Thanks for all those answers posted yesterday! It REALLY helped me a lot:)

Just one more, okay...?

Is it difficult to configure X and the windowmanagers after installing
Debian?
If the question is not enough spesific; Is it necessary to configure A LOT
before being able to use X? Any tools avail?

Thanx:)

-Ruben Haugan



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Michael Collins ())
Subject: ls syntax
Date: 22 May 2000 21:28:59 GMT


Hello,

what is the synatax for an ls command which
lists only directories and the amount of files
contained in the directory.


I want to list, in order of size, all of my
directories.

Thank you.

--Chris

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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: time sychronisation on Linux/NT
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 20:02:32 GMT

Thaddeus L. Olczyk writes:
> I want to synchronise times on a LAN with some official site.
> ...
> Can anyone suggest software?

chrony.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin

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From: PoD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: DMA probs (sound card)
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 07:18:21 +0930

I have an Aztech Labs sound galaxy sound card, often when I boot the
computer and try to use /dev/dsp, I get DMA timeouts.
If I unload and reload the sound modules, soundcore,sound,ad1848 and
sgalaxy, it invariably works fine.
I'm running RH 6.0 with kernel 2.2.15. Same happened with 2.2.12 and
2.2.14

Can anyone give me a clue?

TIA, PoD.

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From: James Silverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Slackware or Debian
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 17:22:00 -0400

Johan Kullstam wrote:
> 
> "Ruben Haugan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Hi!
> >
> > I have been using RH 6.0 for some time now, but I`m not satisfied with it,
> > so I`m going to change distribution soon. My problem is that I can`t decide
> > whether to choose Debian or Slackware...
> >
> > Debian is the only "distro" made by an organization, not a commercial
> > company, and it it developed entirely by volunteers via the net. That really
> > appeals to me. Slackwares' "mission" is to provide the most "UNIX-like"
> > linux distro, without all the fuzz, so that you *learn* the linuxsystem from
> > the bottom. That also appeals to me.
> >
> > So... I need some help on this one. Can someone who uses Debian or Slackware
> > tell me a little about the benefits and the problems - simply pros and
> > cons - of these distributions?
> 
> first off, there is less difference amonst them than most people seem
> to believe.
> 1) they are all linux kernel with gnu tools.
> 2) you can install most anything by downloading source, configuring,
>    running make &c, in *any* distribution.
> 3) no distribution prevents you from diving into configuration and
>    editing it yourself.
> 
> > All answers are appreciated:)
> 
> try them out.  run them for a week or so each.  see what you like.  i
> recommend making a /home partition so that your personal stuff can
> more easily survive (there's no need to blow away /home just to change
> distributions).  when you get ready to clobber /, save system config
> information from /etc by tarring it up and keeping it in the /home
> partition.  you may want/need to borrow some settings between
> distributions.

I would not say that any distribution is *better* than another. I chose
SuSE 6.2 for my most recent installation  because of its reputation and
the features included. I have never had any choice to regret my choice.
I must admit that my first installation way back at kernel 1.0... was
Slackware because its drivers were more up-to-date than those from
RedHat. Given the prices of packaged distributions, it is not the end of
the world if you decide you have made a mistake and you and the
distribution are incompatible!

Jim.
-- 
James V.  Silverton
Potomac, Maryland.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: how to enter a bug report against linux?
Date: 22 May 2000 21:27:57 GMT

On 22 May 2000 11:18:23 -0700, 
 steve@howdy <steve@howdy> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Jhair says...
> 
> >
> >Use the source, Luke.
> >
> 
> huh?
> 
> To enter a bug against linux, you use the source? what does
> that mean?

How do you think you find it?

> Have you ever heared of a bug tracking system? 
>
> sending email messages to Linus is not what I call a software
> engineering way of reporting bugs.  
> 
> A bug tracking system allows others to examin it to see if
> such a bug has allready been reported, to examin the state
> of the bug, and other such activites.

Then subscribe to the linux-kernel mailing list.  That's what it's there
for: describe the bug and how to reproduce it, let others see if it is
reproducable, and if so either you or someone else can suggest a patch.

> Check the Apache project for example, they have a bug tracking
> system.  This is the kind of thing I was looking for for the
> linux kernel. 

The linux-kernel mailing list.

-- 
Brian Moore                       | Of course vi is God's editor.
      Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker     | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting
      Usenet Vandal               |  for it to load on the seventh day.
      Netscum, Bane of Elves.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (News Reader)
Subject: Re: time sychronisation on Linux/NT
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 21:28:13 GMT


Try 
        rdate

On Mon, 22 May 2000 20:02:32 GMT, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Thaddeus L. Olczyk writes:
>> I want to synchronise times on a LAN with some official site.
>> ...
>> Can anyone suggest software?
>
>chrony.
>-- 
>John Hasler
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Dancing Horse Hill
>Elmwood, Wisconsin

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From: Erik Taraldsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: lots of crc errors w/ RH6.1
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 22:35:08 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi

After I made a reinstall of RedHat 6.1 I got a _lot_ of crc's.  Files
wich I unpacked before I made the reinstall wont unpack anymore.  The
files unpack nicely from some of the NT boxes in the office, from my
samba partition.

Please dont recomend a recompile of the kernel since it is one of the
files that wont unpack anymore :)

Comands that gives errors that didnt use to.
rpm, tar zxvf, gunzip, unzip

The reinstall of RH6.1 did not give any error messages.

Another reinstall is probably the solution, but if rather not do that
again



-Erik Taraldsen


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From: Derek Colley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to split text file into two files that have ODD and EVEN pages.
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 21:37:28 +0100

Robert,

Are you looking for a method or a on-off solution? What's in the file/what
application are you using to print from?
Perhaps printing them on one side of the page and photocopying them 1-sided
to 2-sided will give you less pain than trying to write a script.

You could always print one page at a time, flip the printed page over,
then... :o)

Regards,
Derek Colley
netSimple Ltd

Robert Wynkoop wrote:

> I would like to print a file on both sides of a piece of paper, but
> don't have a duplex printer.  How can I use my Redhat 6.2 config
> to print the ODD pages, then feed the pages back in and print the
> EVEN pages?
>
> I've looked at and tried csplit, but could not get it working.
>
> Some of my options appear to be:
>
> 1. Use csplit to get a single file for each page.
>    Then write some script that could
>    output the pages based on the file name csplit
>    assigned it. ( xx00 = page 1, xx01 = page 2...)
>
>    Problem: I'm not very good at bash or peral, or whatever yet.  Any
> examples?
>
> 2.  Build a C++ or Java program that could take
>     InputFile, Odd_TargetFile, Even_TargetFile as  parms.
>
>     Note: Yeah, I know - if I can do this why can't I do a simple script.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help.
>
> Robert Wyhnkoop
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: Frank Boehme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: can't run X as root
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 21:44:59 +0100

Peter Bismuti wrote:
> 
> Why can't I run graphics from root?  I get the message:
> 
> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server

I suppose X is already running, started by yourself as non-root, right?
That means that the graphics hardware is already claimed. Not even root
can change this situation. Note, that this is much different from root
being allowed to write to any file. The latter is still possible without
two user accessing an I/O component at the same time.

You have to allow X-connections from localhost to do what you want. You
(as the owner of the X-session) have to say:

xhost +localhost

Then su to root and run gvim.


Frank

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 21:43:45 GMT

On Mon, 22 May 2000 13:13:52 -0700, D G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>JEDIDIAH wrote:
>> 
>> On Sat, 20 May 2000 13:05:15 GMT, Full Name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >On 18 May 2000 09:50:55 +0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Victor Wagner)
>> >wrote:
[deletia]
>>         Any little quirk in
>>         your setup and any WinDOS, Solaris, BeOS or Linux install can
>>         quickly become nasty.
>> 
>>         This is a side effect of the PC being a random collection of
>>         spare parts. That adds a level of complexity to the whole
>>         situation that is very difficult to just 'program around'.
>
>Any OS will give you problems if you're hardware is quirky.  The ideal

        "Random collection of spare parts" is about as quirky as one 
        can get...

[deletia]

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                                      Need sane PPP docs? Try penguin.lvcm.com.

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Subject: Re: site wide search capability
From: Bob Koss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 21:45:27 GMT

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