Linux-Misc Digest #562, Volume #25 Fri, 25 Aug 00 19:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: do I have to reboot to change network settings (Leonard Evens)
Re: Ich brauche eure Partitionierunsvorschl�ge (M. Buchenrieder)
Re: XWindow Managers (Garry Knight)
security at university (Damir Jurica)
Re: New Palmtop running Linux! (foxy)
Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows ("Joseph T. Adams")
SCSI compatibilty (Michael Segulja)
Re: security at university (Brian Moore)
Re: security at university (Dances With Crows)
Re: From RedHat to SuSE: A simple question (Dances With Crows)
Re: Need large uid? Can it be done? (Douglas Cash)
Re: Programming of continuous exchange on TCP/IP
Epson Color 600 Question ("Aubrey Kilpatrick")
X10 control software? (DAVID L. ORMAND)
Re: glibc - rpm -> src (Garry Knight)
Re: gnome X file diff prog? (Garry Knight)
Re: splitting files compatible to linux and winnt (Garry Knight)
[HELP] How to set KDE window titlebar ("Lam Dang")
Re: Aww, man! ! ! ! !!!!!!! (Scott Morgan)
Re: XFree86 vs Windows ("Kevin Vandersloot")
A Hiding Partition (QNA)
My Beautiful Linuxette ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: GnomeICU: incompatible widget (S P Arif Sahari Wibowo)
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: do I have to reboot to change network settings
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 14:56:24 -0500
Peter Bismuti wrote:
>
> Right now I boot my machine, run netconf, and then reboot, is there a faster way?
> I tried booting into single user, running netconf, and then running init 3, but this
> does not work.
>
> Thx
This may depend to some extend on which release of which distribution
of Linux you are running. Under RedHat 6.X, you can do
/etc/rc.d/init.d/network stop
then make your changes and then do
/etc/rc.d/init.d/network start
There are also other ways to do it.
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Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: Ich brauche eure Partitionierunsvorschl�ge
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 15:06:37 GMT
[Please note FollowUp-To: header]
"Oliver Sebold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Hallo Leute,
[...]
Not here. Please try this in a german-speaking group.
Michael
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From: Garry Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: XWindow Managers
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 16:40:25 +0100
paul simdars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Garry Knight wrote:
>> Having the title bar on or off is an option in Enlightenment, IIRC. If you
>> can't find a way of changing it in the Configuration Editor, try clicking the
>> desktop with either mouse button, with or without Ctrl and Alt. I think one of
>> these combinations comes up with a menu where you can configure your window
>> settings.
>I have the Gnome desktop (my program menu has the footprint). In Gnome I
>found no settings for that. In the KDE menues > settings > window behavior >
>buttons. You can set the properties. Unfortunately they don't show up in
>Gnome. I will try changing to KDE and see if I can live without all my
>Gnome/Enlightenment goodies. But Gnome should have a way to set those
>settings.
Changing KDE's settings won't change anything in Gnome. And it's unlikely that
Gnome would have a way of changing the settings for Enlightenment. Gnome is a
desktop manager, E is a window manager.
If trying different key combinations, as I've described above, doesn't work
when you click the desktop, try clicking one of the windows. Try all of the
combinations, including left and right buttons at once. It's in there
somewhere, I'm sure it is.
Or can someone who's running E put us both out of our misery?
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Garry Knight
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Damir Jurica)
Subject: security at university
Date: 25 Aug 2000 20:18:15 GMT
Im building computer network at my uni with few computers. Im going to have
one server computer that runs linux and I have few questions concerning
security.How can I be sure that someone wouldnt crash system or erase some
important files,just by getting rescue disk, mounting my disk to lets say
/mnt ,and doing there anything he likes. I dont know
how to solve this or prevent this.I cant spend my all day sitting at
computer there..
So is there any way to prevent access to total system with rescue disk?
Ideas,suggestions,anything?
thanks in advance
Damir
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From: foxy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: New Palmtop running Linux!
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 20:26:17 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Haynes) wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phillip Deackes) writes:
>...
> I'm holding out hopes for a Yopy, myself. Or anything with a builting
web
> cam ;8)
>...
Tim,
Yopy Status Bummer - not available till next spring
http://www.gmate.co.kr/english/frame1.htm
Regards,
David
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From: "Joseph T. Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.text.xml,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
Date: 25 Aug 2000 20:41:42 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: "Joseph T. Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
: [snip example of bad XML]
:> But it does tremendously violate the *spirit* of XML. XML is supposed
:> to be human-readable.
: And HTML was supposed to be a document tagging system (ie, using
: STRONG, EM, QUOTE, etc.); instead it turned into a bad word processing
: mess (I, B, BLINK).
: Never underestimate the ability of humans to screw things up
: (intentionally, more often than not). It'll be interesting to see
: how Microsoft's XML looks; I'll give 3:1 odds that it looks like all
: those 100-character messes you see in the Windows registry.
I've seen it, and you're right, it does. But that's Microsoft.
I don't ascribe to XML, or any other technology, the magic power to
turn Microsoft's gang of Mafia-like thugs* into decent, sensible human
beings. Only God can do that, and thus far, for reasons I don't
understand, He's chosen not to.
However, XML, when used sensibly by sensible people, in the places
where it's appropriate, solves a whole mess of problems, without, as
far as I can see, creating any new ones in the process.
:> In a binary format, you'd always be at risk of problems due to
:> variable field length. That can't happen with XML.
: Sure it can:
: <MSWORDDATA>
: sdlkfjsda;lfkjsda f;lsdkf 2340985r32j23lkr2j r23o978xdf0sdjalfkwj 32
: </MSWORDDATA>
: (where that contains some encoded table)
That will parse just fine.
It won't be very useful to anyone but M$. But XML never promised to
make all data useful.
Joe
* With apologies to any real Mafia thugs out there.
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From: Michael Segulja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SCSI compatibilty
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 20:40:06 GMT
I am about to add 3 9.2GB SCSI hard drive and an Adaptec 29160 SCSI
adapter to my Linux server, but I want to make sure the adapter will
work first. I'm using MandrakeLinux 7.1.
Thanks.
Michael
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Moore)
Subject: Re: security at university
Date: 25 Aug 2000 17:03:10 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Damir Jurica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Im building computer network at my uni with few computers. Im going to have
>one server computer that runs linux and I have few questions concerning
>security.How can I be sure that someone wouldnt crash system or erase some
>important files,just by getting rescue disk, mounting my disk to lets say
>/mnt ,and doing there anything he likes. I dont know
>how to solve this or prevent this.I cant spend my all day sitting at
>computer there..
>So is there any way to prevent access to total system with rescue disk?
>Ideas,suggestions,anything?
>
>thanks in advance
>
>Damir
One idea is that
you can buy special locks for e.g. the floppy drives that allow them to
be accessed with keys only. There are other solutions I think as well.
You have to be very careful with a school lab as you may have a lot of
users in what has to be a fairly open environment, and a few of them
may be very skillful at cracking.
--
Brian G. Moore, School of Science, Penn State Erie--The Behrend College
[EMAIL PROTECTED] , (814)-898-6334
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: security at university
Date: 25 Aug 2000 21:25:08 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 25 Aug 2000 20:18:15 GMT, Damir Jurica wrote:
>Im building computer network at my uni with few computers. Im going to have
>one server computer that runs linux and I have few questions concerning
>security.How can I be sure that someone wouldnt crash system or erase some
>important files,just by getting rescue disk, mounting my disk to lets say
>/mnt ,and doing there anything he likes. I dont know
>how to solve this or prevent this.I cant spend my all day sitting at
>computer there..
>So is there any way to prevent access to total system with rescue disk?
>Ideas,suggestions,anything?
Put the server in a locked room, disable booting from a floppy within
the BIOS and set a BIOS password, use "restricted" within /etc/lilo.conf
and set a password to avoid people passing "init=/bin/sh", et cetera.
Or remove the floppy drive from the system entirely?
In most university environments, any machines acting as servers are kept
in locked rooms, and only certain people have keys. You should try to
do that here.
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Those who do not understand Unix are
http://www.brainbench.com / condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
=============================/ ==Henry Spencer
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: From RedHat to SuSE: A simple question
Date: 25 Aug 2000 21:29:12 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 15:45:11 -0400, Sylvain Demers wrote:
>Thanks a lot for the info. Unfortunately, I've tried boot.local, but it
>triggers the commands way too early in the boot process, before my eth0
>is up actually - since one of these commands is used to link my
>registered domain name to my dynamic IP adress, it requires Internet
>access to work, thus the command _HAS_ to be launched _after_ the
>activation of my eth0 device. Is there a file that is launched after all
>other services are up and running, like it's the case for rc.local under
Not automatically, but you can make one! Create a file named
/sbin/init.d/boot.last , put the commands into it, and chmod +x it.
Then create a symlink called "S99bootlast" in /sbin/init.d/rc3.d/ that
points to boot.last. boot.last should be the final thing executed
before X and the mingettys start up.
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Those who do not understand Unix are
http://www.brainbench.com / condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
=============================/ ==Henry Spencer
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From: Douglas Cash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Need large uid? Can it be done?
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 15:58:27 -0500
This may be helpful:
http://www.engin.umich.edu/caen/systems/Linux/highuids/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> We have several HP and Sun boxes at our site, and are able to use large
> uids on them.
>
> We need the ability, since we're using the pam_ldap module for our Unix
> hosts, to be able to
> use large uids on our Linux systems as well.
>
> Have you any idea how this could be accomplished?
>
> I am able to use the user{add,mod,del} commands with large uids with no
> trouble at all. The
> problems arise when you try to login or su to the created user.
>
> This happens on both 6.1 and 6.2 of RedHat
>
> /etc/passwd:
> test:x:2000000:500:Test user:/home/test:/usr/bin/csh
> /etc/shadow:
> test:$1$vp5EkV2a$lAXa7fDnVXK4AjVo4hOwYB.:11194:0:99999:7:-1:-1:134540316
>
> Login:
> login: test
> passwd:
> Login incorrect
> /var/log/messages:
> login: FAILED LOGIN 1 FROM (null) FOR test, Authentication failure
>
> SU:
> su - test
> Password:
> su: cannot set user id: Invalid argument
> /var/log/messages:
> PAM_pwdb[5487]: (su) session opened for user test by my_user(uid=xxx)
> PAM_pwdb[5487]: (su) session closed for user test
>
> Any ideas?
>
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Subject: Re: Programming of continuous exchange on TCP/IP
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 21:29:21 GMT
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From: "Aubrey Kilpatrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Epson Color 600 Question
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 16:38:33 -0500
Hello All,
Is it OK to remove a ink cartridge from an Epson Stylus Color 600 printer
even if it is not empty? I have looked on the Epson site for an answer and
all I can find is the "Caution - Don't replace an ink cartridge until the
ink Out Light flashes".
I have heard that a cartridge can be replaced if the print out begins to
have gaps in it and cleaning the heads does not clear it up. The gaps
started occuring on my printer immediately after installing a new "Epson"
black ink cartridge. The color cartridge still works fine. A computer
technician told me that even some new (even though very rarely) ink
cartridges can cause this and a new cartridge might clear up the problem.
The tech also said that if the new cartridge didn't solve the problem then I
should just go buy me another printer.
Any help, advice, recommendations, etc will be appreciated.
TIA,
aak
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (DAVID L. ORMAND)
Subject: X10 control software?
Date: 25 Aug 2000 21:40:07 GMT
I'm getting into home automation with X-10, and got the IBM Home Director
kit (www.smarthome.com), which includes an interface (CM-11) that you can
talk to with the serial port. It comes with software for (urp) Windows,
of course. I'm wondering if anybody knows if there is linux software that
will work. I've heard that there is, looking for confirmation/directions.
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From: Garry Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: glibc - rpm -> src
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 22:36:50 +0100
Ryan Tarpine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Garry Knight wrote:
>
>> Ryan Tarpine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >Caldera somehow left libcrypt out of glibc for OL 2.2. How can I
>> >upgrade using the source? I tried making the source, running rpm -e
>> >glibc, and then make install, but without glibc, make itself wouldn't
>> >even run! Should I just install the source-compiled glibc over the
>> >existing rpm version? If yes, should I install it in /usr or
>> >/usr/local?
>>
>> libcrypt is a library. It belongs in /usr/lib.
>
>I'm trying to upgrade glibc with the crypt _function_ (sorry for the
>confusion).
Sorry, on re-reading your original post, I realise the confusion was mine. I
thought you were rebuilding libcrypt.so.
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From: Garry Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: gnome X file diff prog?
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 22:41:57 +0100
Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I need a graphical file diff prog, for source diffs. I use gnome.
KDE's kdiff should run under Gnome. It's in my Mandrake 7.1 distro, maybe it's
in yours...
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From: Garry Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: splitting files compatible to linux and winnt
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 22:44:09 +0100
Christian Verbeek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>dear newsgroup,
>
>i am doing my everyday backup on my laptop running winnt4 using gnu-tar.
>the file is about 200megs big, so it does not fit on my zip-disks. i am
>looking for a way to split up the tar file to fit on multiple zip-disks
>and being able to merge the splitted files on my linux-computer.
$ man split
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From: "Lam Dang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [HELP] How to set KDE window titlebar
Date: 25 Aug 2000 17:53:15 -0400
I've installed RedHat 6.2 on several PCs at
home at different times. When installing I
just went for KDE without messing around with
configuring it.
Just today I noticed that one of them has KDE
window titlebars which show username, node,
and the current directory path, while the
others have window titlebars which just say
"Terminal" or "kvt" all the time.
I like the titlebars which show the FULL
current directory path. But I haven't been
able to figure out how to turn it on and off.
I've tried the KDE control center and taken a
cursory look at various .kdelnk files, but I
didn't see anything obvious.
Any guidance will be appreciated.
--
Lam Dang
dangit AT ix DOT netcom DOT com
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From: Scott Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Aww, man! ! ! ! !!!!!!!
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 18:19:00 -0400
> Hurray!!!!!!!!!!!!!
its all workin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
except the sound, but i guess i can figure that out soon enough :o)
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From: "Kevin Vandersloot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: XFree86 vs Windows
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 18:30:45 -0800
In article <8o58ke$s80$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'll try to explain what I mean. Consider a
> graphics heavy app like say Star Office. Opening
> the app takes up a lot of time and after it
> comes up , the motion of the app ( suppose I
> want to move the window or use the side bar to
> navigate) is very jerky. Consider even Netscape
> , if we use the sidebar to move up and down , we
> see that the image changes in jerky. But in
> Windows ( though I hate to admit it) the motion
> is perfect. Also any applications , take for
> instance the Office suite, works perfectly ,
> starts up fast etc. Now the Linux kernel is
> superior to the Windows kernel , yet there is a
> problem with the graphics. Where is the
> problem????
>
There are a couple of problems with the
applications themselves that lead to this
behavior. One problem is that both Star Office and
Netscape use different graphical toolkits, Star
Office has its own and Netscape uses Motif which
is the classic unix toolkit, however both of those
toolkits suck. The quality of the scrolling
differs depending on how well the toolkit
implements scrolling - Motif doesn't do it well so
Netscape does not scroll without flicker. Now if
Netscape were written in a better toolkit ( like
gtk+(used by GNOME) or QT(used by KDE) ) then the
scrolling would be similar to that of IE on
windows ( except that IE has the option for smooth
scrolling and gtk+ and QT probably do not yet ).
The Star Office toolkit is pretty bad so dragging
it around the screen shows how slow the toolkit
redraws things. Star Office also takes forever to
load up partially because it reimplements a lot of
desktop functionality such as the panel with the
start button and also the fact that it uses its
own toolkit. We already have this functionality
with gnome or KDE. Remember that Microsoft pulls
some tricks to get their applications to load up
quickly, for instance IE is integrated into the
operating system so much of it is already loaded
when you start windows. Office also has a fast
start application that is started when you start
Windows ( Start menu/programs/startup/office fast
find or something like that). I presume that this
little program just loads Office into memory when
you start windows thus the start up time for
Office is smaller since part of it is already
started. Of course loading these applications into
memory comsumes memory when you don't use the
applications so its not a win-win situation. I'm
sure Microsoft doesn't mind if its programs are
hogging memory at the expense of other
applications. There is good news for linux though!
The upcoming Star Office release will be done
using the gtk+ toolkit and will be modular so it
should start up a lot faster and look a lot
smoother and use a lot less memory since it is not
reimplimenting features. Netscape is also now
using its own toolkit and scrolling is better
along with the overall look, however it uses a lot
of memory and it takes forever to load up. It
still needs a lot of optimization and hopefully
they can improve it a lot before it is released.
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From: QNA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: A Hiding Partition
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 22:30:16 GMT
while the un-installation of one of my verions of Linux i found that my
computer only detects the space on my Local Disk which is a FAT32 File
System, but there is GB's in an Extended Partition that my computer does
not have access to because it is not detected. can Partition Magic for
Linux Mandrake help me and if not how can i recover this space. thank you.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: My Beautiful Linuxette
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 22:33:06 GMT
62 espresso's and very little sleep later...
I've bought a hyperhyde mp3 player from ionark.com, but I can't seem to
mount it on my SuSE linux system. I've followed instructions in the
manual for mounting removable drives, and I've scoured linuxnewbie all
to no avail.
Now, I've been trying for weeks and weeks, so don't flame me telling me
this is a newbie question about mounting removable drives. I know it's
possible to do, beacause all the win98 software does is install it as a
removable drive, and it is listed in the system control panel as a a
removable drive...
The player uses the serial cable to load and delete mp3s from it, and
the player is MDM compliant. All the instructions are in Japanese (I'm
not kidding, either) and I'm tearing my hair out trying to get it to
work.
This is the only thing holding me back from deleting windows entirely
and exclusivly using linux - which I love dearly. CAN SOMEONE OUT THERE
HELP ME?! BEFORE I GO COMPLETELY INSANE?!
(ahem)Cheers
Chris Crook
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From: S P Arif Sahari Wibowo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: GnomeICU: incompatible widget
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 18:04:22 -0500
On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, Anthony wrote:
>In article
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>>
>> I tried the newest GnomeICU, version 0.93. Since I have RedHat 6.0, I
>> use the RPM version gnomeicu-0.93-1.i386.rpm. However, on installation
>> it gave this error:
>>
>> Gtk-WARNING **: gtk_signal_connect(): could not find signal
>> "change_pixel_size" in the `AppletWidget' class ancestry
>> gnomeicu: error in loading shared libraries: gnomeicu: undefined symbol:
>> applet_widget_get_panel_pixel_size
>
>This problem is documented in the gnomeicu page.
Actually I cannot find any specific note on that problem...
>I suggest getting gnome-core and gnome-devel 1.0.53 at least.
I did, I use gnome-core-1.0.55-12. It still have the same problem.
>Or if your distro is current enough (e.g. rh 6.1, Mandrake 7, SuSe 6.4),
>download the helix gnome packages.
Is it in RPM? It seems not (an executable installer). How can I uninstall
it if it is not in rpm?
Thanks.
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