Linux-Misc Digest #791, Volume #24 Mon, 12 Jun 00 11:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: editor search (Thomas Dickey)
Re: Filesystem for Linux AND Win9x? (Yan Seiner)
Re: Drivers ("Java__Cat")
Re: Drivers ("Java__Cat")
Re: LiLo (Hugh Lawson)
64 megs of RAM on a 256????? (Taylor)
Re: 64 megs of RAM on a 256????? (Martin Herrman)
Re: What should I do with ISO file? (Dmitri V)
Trying to set up router/DHCP server ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: 64 megs of RAM on a 256????? (Hal Burgiss)
Linux modules to connect to ISP (jafgon)
Re: Kernel loadable modules... (Dances With Crows)
Nobody's logged in???? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
System monitor ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Linux Partition: Primary or Logical? (Forrest Gehrke)
Re: MS word and linux ("Wouter Verhelst")
Re: Nobody's logged in???? (Hal Burgiss)
Re: Which Linux is better? (Paul Smith)
Re: Which Linux is better? ("Wouter Verhelst")
Re: SCRIPT TO SEND SMS (Guy Dawson)
Re: SCRIPT TO SEND SMS ("Peter T. Breuer")
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From: Thomas Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: editor search
Date: 12 Jun 2000 11:43:27 GMT
Steve Dearth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've managed to almost entirely replace my windowsNT box with linux.
> the only thing i currently use windows for is when doing c++/java source
> code editing. If someone could answer an editor question for me, there
> would be one less windows box in the world.
> I do most of my editing using vim. great. when i'm ready to do bug
> fixes/etc. i switch over to my windows box and edit using the IBM editor
> iedit. generally not a great editor, but has a feature i can't live
> without. When i hit CTL-I, a dialog pops up, i entire a search string,
> and it parses out a list of all of the lines that contain that string.
> move my cursor to that line, hit CTL-a, and i'm at the appropriate
> location in my document. very handy. anyone know of a linux text
> editor with this type of functionality?
> i know that vim allows my to put my cursor on a string, hit contol-[ and
> get a list of lines containing the string, but this doesn't allow me to
> specify the string outside of the document.
using vile, I can make a list of lines (for example - there are other ways,
but this is the most analogous), and then use the error-finder to walk
through the selected lines. The same information could be gotten from
another source such as grep. Perhaps vim does that.
.article.103:17:> and it parses out a list of all of the lines that contain that
string.
.article.103:18:> move my cursor to that line, hit CTL-a, and i'm at the appropriate
.article.103:23:> get a list of lines containing the string, but this doesn't allow me
to
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Thomas E. Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://dickey.his.com
ftp://dickey.his.com
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From: Yan Seiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Filesystem for Linux AND Win9x?
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 06:51:20 -0400
See inline.
Doc Shipley wrote:
>
> Zach Pardos wrote:
> >
<snip>
>
> In my experience, Windows9x access time suffers greatly with partitions
> >6G . If possible, use ext2, run only Linux on that box, and serve the desired
>filesystems via Samba. If it's necessary to read the files in Win98 on that same
>machine, I'd recommend the above + VMWare. If you stay in Linux 80%, VMWare would
>probably better meet your needs than a dual-boot all around.
I've been using trelos's win4lin (http://www.trelos.com). It's cheaper
and works great for win9x.
I'd also look at samba and set up a separate workstation....
> I also tend to advocate several smaller drives over one large one in
> any case.
>
> --
> Doc Shipley
> Network Stuff
> Austin, Earth
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From: "Java__Cat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Drivers
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 12:08:19 GMT
I have got the mouse configured. So that works No problem. I'll work at the
"expert" config. Thanks all for the input.
"Michael Daly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]*del*> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Java__Cat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Well still have not figured it out. I hate this darn 640x480 resolution.
The
> >system just will not let me adjust the size of the resolution. I am using
> >SuSE and it comes with a utillity called SAX and that does not seem to
like
> >me.
> >
> SaX won't work properly until you've configured your mouse
> (press TAB to move around the screen).
>
> Then choose your card from the drop-down list.
>
> Once this is done click on the 'Monitor' tab.
> If your monitor is not listed click the <Expert> button
> and enter the refresh ranges from your monitor manual.
>
> I know I found it funny clicking <Expert> when I was a complete novice
> at installing Linux, but it works!
>
> After you've done this you should be able to click on the 'Desktop' tab
> and set the resolution & colour depth required.
>
> BTW, you need to sign on as 'root' to use SaX.
>
>
> Michael Daly
> http://crash.ihug.co.nz/~mikedaly
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From: "Java__Cat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Drivers
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 12:14:52 GMT
If I have a driver for the 3dfx card how do I load it or should I say where
does it get placed. I do know some Unix so getting around at command line is
not that bad. I also know how to do a tar but am unsure of what "flag" to
use for the floppy. Is it -xvs? I think I will run out and buy a Linux book
today, I feel as if question may be a little on the novice side.
"David M. Cook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 03:05:32 GMT, Java__Cat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> >Yes, My Xwindows are huge.
>
> Yup, sounds like the video is misconfigured.
>
> Video cards do have drivers. These are usually part of a "server", e.g.
> the SVGA (which has drivers for lots of video cards) or S3V servers, which
> are themselves part of XFree86.
>
> You can find out if the card is recognized by running
>
> SuperProbe
>
> I think that either the S3V or SVGA servers should work for your S3 Virge
> card. On a Red Hat system, you can run
>
> Xconfigurator
>
> to configure the video. Other distros may use XF86Setup, sax, or
xf86config.
>
> 3D stuff is handled by the glint and mesa libraries. See linux.3dfx.com.
>
> Dave Cook
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hugh Lawson)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: LiLo
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 12:19:48 GMT
On Sat, 10 Jun 2000 11:57:46 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> If this works properly when at the lilo prompt you choose 'dos', then you
>> should be able to make 'dos' the default by placing the 'dos' stanza
>> first, ahead of the linux stanza.
>I don't think this is necessary thanks to the 'default' option.
>If the configuration works when you type dos at the boot prompt
>then, if you wait 5 seconds your dos partition will be booted as
>well.
>Bye.
>AS
The problem cited by the original post, if I read it right, was that the
'default' option did not invoke his 'dos' stanza. So, my point was, first
see if the 'dos' stanza works right if selected manually.
Does the 'default' option work with a dos partition?
--
Hugh Lawson
Greensboro, North Carolina
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 64 megs of RAM on a 256?????
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 12:30:06 GMT
I installed Mandrake 7 a while ago and everything is running smoothly,
internet and all. The only problem I have is, I have a 256 meg RAM single
module, and linux only sees 64 megs of it. This is the most baffling
problem ive ever run into with linux. can anyone help me out with this? Im
not a newbie to linux so feel free to be techinal. just keep it
understandable haha
--
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http://www.help.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Herrman)
Subject: Re: 64 megs of RAM on a 256?????
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 12 Jun 2000 12:37:15 GMT
On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 12:30:06 GMT, Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I installed Mandrake 7 a while ago and everything is running smoothly,
> internet and all. The only problem I have is, I have a 256 meg RAM single
> module, and linux only sees 64 megs of it. This is the most baffling
> problem ive ever run into with linux. can anyone help me out with this? Im
> not a newbie to linux so feel free to be techinal. just keep it
> understandable haha
at lilo prompt:
append="256m"
if it works put in /etc/lilo and run /sbin/lilo as root.
Martin
or maybe you should disable memory hole in bios settings..
--
Linux Gebruikers Handleiding v1.2 : http://2mypage.cjb.net
Linux RedHat 6.1 Kernel 2.2.14 Toshiba P233 MHz, 32 Mb RAM
2:30pm up 8 days, 11:43, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.01
Western Civilization, that would be a good idea!
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From: Dmitri V <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What should I do with ISO file?
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 15:40:20 +0300
Paul wrote:
>
> Hi! I download Redhat 6.2, but it is in iso files. How can I convert it to a normal
> files so that I can install it and also be able to copy it to a cd-r? Please explain
> more detail for me because I am a beginner. Thank you very much for your
> help. I am really appreciated.
>
> Paul
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
A couple of hours ago I burnt a couple of CDs out of ISO images using
Easy CD Creator for Windoze. Just choose File -> Create a CD from Image
and go on. Another option for you (assuming that you're on a Linux box)
is to type
mount -t iso9660 -o loop /path/to/your/iso.image
/home/yourself/wherever/you/want/to/mount/it
and voila! you can browse this ISO image as if it was a usual CDROM.
Good luck
Dmitri
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Trying to set up router/DHCP server
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 13:00:02 GMT
Ok....this is what I'm trying to do:
I've got a linux box, 2 windows boxes, a 4-port hub, and a cable
modem. I have 2 NICs in my linux box. What I want to is link one of
the NICs to the cable modem and another to the HUB (does this need to
go in the uplink port?). Then I want to hook my 2 windows machines and
be able to reach the internet through my linux box. Well, it is my
understanding that all I need to do is compile the Linux kernel to
support IP Forwarding. Is this the right assumption? Well, I cant
seem to find the file where I need to set that. I'm using the 2.2.14
kernel (the one that comes with Redhat 6.2). If someone could prove my
assumption right, point me to a resource that will tell me how to
acomplish my goal, or tell me what I need to do I would appreciate your
help.
Thanks,
The Linux Newb.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: 64 megs of RAM on a 256?????
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 13:32:59 GMT
On 12 Jun 2000 12:37:15 GMT, Martin Herrman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 12:30:06 GMT, Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I installed Mandrake 7 a while ago and everything is running
>> smoothly, internet and all. The only problem I have is, I have a 256
>> meg RAM single module, and linux only sees 64 megs of it. This is the
>> most baffling problem ive ever run into with linux. can anyone help
>> me out with this? Im not a newbie to linux so feel free to be
>> techinal. just keep it understandable haha
>
>at lilo prompt:
>
>append="256m"
append="mem=255M"
This is possibly the biggest FAQ of all. I wouldn't be surprised if
google did not turn up 100,00 hits on this.
--
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: jafgon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux modules to connect to ISP
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 09:32:26 -0400
Greetings group,
I'm working as a consultant for a local ISP where I live and
recently ran into an interesting predicament. It is the goal of the
ISP to distribute the means of connection to new subscribers via CD's or
download a module via the ISP home page that will walk the new user
through the entire subscription process. Two modules will be available,
one for Windows users and the other for Mac users. My question is: Is
there an application out "there" that provides the same service for
Linux users? A tarball that can be downloaded via the homepage? Of
course an app. that has been GPLed would be ideal but I'm willing to
settle for anything. Thank you for any information you can provide.
Regards,
Jafgon
--
http://www.bright.net/~jafgon
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Kernel loadable modules...
Date: 12 Jun 2000 09:35:40 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 10:59:58 GMT, David Steuber
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>I'm wondering if Linux supports the notion of loading kernel modules
>that do not depend on the specific version/patch level of the kernel.
Yes, but see below.
>For example, suppose vendor X comes out with a piece of hardware that
>the vendor wants to work with Linux. But the vendor does not want to
>distribute source code for some reason, just a binary driver.
"lt.o" and "pctel.o" are the most famous examples. Bad hardware, bad
modules.
>Is it possible to create such a module that will work when the user
>decides to go from kernel 2.2.14 to 2.4 or 2.3.x?
Sure, just convince the kernel developers to stop developing! An enormous
amount of stuff in the internals of the kernel has changed from 2.2.x to
2.3.x--devfs, USB, and the VM system, at least. These changes are widely
considered to be improvements, or at least they will be when they stop
crashing unpredictably and/or hogging all the CPU for no reason :-) Linux
is a moving target, one which seems to move too fast for hardware
companies to keep up. "insmod -f" and "set kernel version info on all
modules" are the main workarounds.
For this reason, they can't expect to just throw out one binary module and
hope to keep Linux users satisfied. The thing for them to do would be to
keep the source for their module around and grab the latest kernel source
every couple of months, then try to build their module against that source
and make it available for download/whatever as "foomodule-2.2.19.o". This
would allow users to stay with reasonably current kernels, and allow
companies to protect their oh-so-precious intellectual property.
The chances of anyone doing this are roughly epsilon.
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| You have me mixed up with more
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| creative ways of being stupid?
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Beer is a vegetable. WinNT
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| is the study of cool. --MegaHAL
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Nobody's logged in????
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 13:39:42 GMT
Having a problem with our Linux box. [Running Redhat 6.1] We have users
connect to the Linux box From NT Workstation over a telnet client to
access our database. I routinely use 'w' to kill hung processes on
users pc's. As of Friday, however, issuing a 'w' command shows that no
one is logged in.I rebooted the Linux box, thinking it was a
glitch,however the 'w' command still comes up empty. The only way I can
get a list of users and their processes is by issuing a "ps -au >
{file}" then listing {file} to find the correct
user/process to kill.
Any ideas why the command stopped showing the user details??
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: System monitor
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 13:41:08 GMT
Do you need a tool that monitors your systems constantly and
reports any problems to you by mail.
Go to http://systemguard.tripod.com/
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Forrest Gehrke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux Partition: Primary or Logical?
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 14:05:32 GMT
Hello,
I want to partition an IBM ata66 20.5 GB hd for Win98, OS/2 and Linux.
I know that Win98 requires a primary partition and that OS/2 may be
located in a logical partition as extended. But what does Linux
require?
As OS/2, may it be either primary or logical?
BTW does Linux support ATA66? If so, what driver?
//
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From: "Wouter Verhelst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS word and linux
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 14:10:11 GMT
J Bland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in berichtnieuws
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Hi,
> >I am receiving some e-mail in Word and want to read it in linux
> >without going to windows. Is there any software (free/cheap) which would
> >allow me to do that?
>
> StarOffice will read and edit it reasonably ok. It's free for personal
use,
It WAS free for personal use until the takover of StarDivision by Sun.
Now it's free to everyone ;)
> though quite a large install and/or download.
That is true: +-65Mb.
But IMHO it's worth it.
--
Greetings,
Wouter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: Nobody's logged in????
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 14:23:20 GMT
On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 13:39:42 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Having a problem with our Linux box. [Running Redhat 6.1] We have users
>connect to the Linux box From NT Workstation over a telnet client to
>access our database. I routinely use 'w' to kill hung processes on
>users pc's. As of Friday, however, issuing a 'w' command shows that no
>one is logged in.I rebooted the Linux box, thinking it was a
>glitch,however the 'w' command still comes up empty. The only way I can
>get a list of users and their processes is by issuing a "ps -au >
>{file}" then listing {file} to find the correct
>user/process to kill.
>Any ideas why the command stopped showing the user details??
>
Maybe I am paranoid, but my first thought would be 'Have I been
cracked?'. Have you tried to eliminate this possibility? You might try
'rpm -V' against procps. Not foolproof, but a starting point.
--
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 22:21:27 +0800
From: Paul Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which Linux is better?
n article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Neurocrat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Kahari) writes:
>
>> /A (soon moving on to Debian GNU/Hurd)
>
> What are the advantages of Hurd?
Last I heard it's still in primitive beta stage? I know it operates quite differently
to the Linux kernel. www.gnu.org should have the info. I doubt it'll be in workable
form for most users in the near future. But keep an eye on it, it does look
interesting.
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From: "Wouter Verhelst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which Linux is better?
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 14:31:37 GMT
Neurocrat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in berichtnieuws
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Kahari) writes:
>
> > /A (soon moving on to Debian GNU/Hurd)
>
> What are the advantages of Hurd?
>
This is just another system.
The Hurd is another kernel, written completely independent from the Linux
kernel. Since in fact Linux is no more than a kernel, GNU/Hurd is no Linux.
It will probably have advantages, but surely it will have disadvantages too.
As with all systems ;)
--
Greetings,
Wouter
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From: Guy Dawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.c,comp.lang.perl.misc,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: SCRIPT TO SEND SMS
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 15:38:34 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Marcos Lloret wrote:
>
> hi,
>
> i was looking for a script that sends a sms message instead of a
> email message. how can i do it??
>
> instead of this:
> mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] << EOF
> subject: new user
> EOF
>
> how can i make the same thing but sending a sms???
I've used 'sendpage' in the past to do this. It needs a modem and
depending on the server you're connecting to a userid and password.
Guy
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Guy Dawson I.T. Manager Crossflight Ltd
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 07973 797819 01753 776104
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.c,comp.lang.perl.misc,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: SCRIPT TO SEND SMS
Date: 12 Jun 2000 14:50:15 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Guy Dawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Marcos Lloret wrote:
:> i was looking for a script that sends a sms message instead of a
:> email message. how can i do it??
Mail to an SMS gateway. Or do you have a wireless transmitter handy?
: I've used 'sendpage' in the past to do this. It needs a modem and
: depending on the server you're connecting to a userid and password.
GSM modems are not commonplace (I have one). Use a gateway.
Peter
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