Linux-Misc Digest #791, Volume #18               Thu, 28 Jan 99 00:13:11 EST

Contents:
  Re: Banshee 3dFx (Raymond Doetjes)
  Re: I NEED HELP!!! ("Wael Sedky")
  Re: e2fs corruption? Help needed... ("Charles Sullivan")
  Re: Help !!! How to access FAT32(WIn95) from Linux ("Charles Sullivan")
  Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (pdohert)
  Re: Slow mouse under XFree ("Wael Sedky")
  Re: StarOffice and Microsoft Office (Marten Feldtmann)
  Re: things I'd pay to have developed for Linux... ("Keith G. Murphy")
  Re: rpm for 2.2.0? (Timothy Murphy)
  Pleaseeeeeeeeeeee.... NFS problems (Massimo Morin)
  Re: Compressed 2.2 kernel about 35% larger than compressed 2.0.x? (Chris Lee)
  Any X-server for Cyrix Media GX on board VGA ? ("Y W Wong")
  No Telnet, No FTP, No Samba ("David Francis")
  Re: Compressed 2.2 kernel about 35% larger than compressed 2.0.x? (Frank Hale)
  Re: Demand dialing for 2.0.36 kernel (Mark McCoy)
  No FTP, No Telnet, No Samba ("David Francis")
  Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Jim Richardson)
  Re: why are linux x apps so slow? (Jim Richardson)
  Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Record software (Mark Ayzenshteyn)
  Re: Linux on PC's not ready for Enterprise (Christopher Browne)
  Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question. (Peter Seebach)
  Re: /etc/issue (Mariusz Kowalczyk)
  Re: MGETTY ("Keith G. Murphy")
  Steps in adding second hard drive to Redhat 5.0. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: Raymond Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Banshee 3dFx
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 16:59:17 +0100

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Try going to www.suse.com and checkout the XSuSE servers. They closely work
together with the XFree86 team to develop new servers.

Raymond

Frank & Co. wrote:

>         I'm using a 3dLabs Banshee Card and now I can't use de X-Server...
> :( now I'm tring to use XF86_SVGA but It can't hold 16bpp and I'm poorly
> using 8bpp does somebody knows how to use X-Server with this card... does
> anybody has the driver... :)  I've seen there's a diver but I don't know
> where to get It , if somebody has it... would you mind to send me it..
> thanks.
>
>                 Frankie
>
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From: "Wael Sedky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]*>
Subject: Re: I NEED HELP!!!
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 22:27:13 -0800

Choose whatever ISP as long as it doesn't use PAP or CHAP. They probably
won't be able to tell you because they don't know what the heck PAP or CHAP
is, but if they use a script to log you on that should be fairly easy.

Otherwise forget it. I've been trying to logon to my provider who uses CHAP
with no luck. I'm lost in the how -to documents which refer to files that r
not on my system and I'm not sure how to make them.

There is a program called X-ISP which looks easy to use, but it uses
something that I never heard of.

Anyways, you can't always have what u want  ;)



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From: "Charles Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: e2fs corruption? Help needed...
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 22:14:41 -0500

Does your HD have more than 1024 cylinders?  Some kernels and utilities have
a
problem with that - my RH5.2 kernel (2.0.36) and fdisk/cfdisk being an
example.

What does fdisk tell you if you run it and print the partition table?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
<789h0p$dnt$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Here is the ouptut I got when I typed "df" on my system (pentium-linux, if
>it can be of any use..):
>
>Filesystem         1024-blocks  Used Available Capacity Mounted on
>/dev/hda3             971618  884521    36899     96%   /
>/dev/hda2              20102   17840     2262     89%   /winbis
>/dev/hda1            1030120  917128   112992     89%   /win
>
>/winbis and /win are vfat, and / is e2fs.
>
>The strange thing is that, if you sum Used and Available blocks
>in / you don't get a number that is equal to the total number of blocks...
>Something that is quite sure is that I have around 37100 blocks I can
>write (ie I cannot write more). But now, if I type "du -skx /", I get:
>884491  /
>Quite consistent with the number of used blocks in / in the output of df,
>right?
>Wow. So where have the [971618-(884320+37100)+-epsilon] blocks gone?
>I tried several combinations of shutdown and "e2fsck -fc", since I
>noticed that little problem, but the inconsistency is still around.
>And according to fsck, my file system seems to be in prefect shape.
>And I am nowhere near reaching the maximum number of files displayed
>at boot time.
>I am puzzled.
>
>Anyone around to help me with that problem (backup+reformat is not an
>option... since backup is not an option...)?
>
>Maxime Froment
>
>-----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
>http://www.dejanews.com/       Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own



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From: "Charles Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help !!! How to access FAT32(WIn95) from Linux
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 22:16:38 -0500

Afraid not.  You'll have to upgrade to RH 5.1 or later.

tong deng wrote in message <789mqm$9r6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>   How to access FAT32(win95) partition from Linux(Redhat5.0), Can i
>mount it?
>
>
>thanks
>



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From: pdohert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 08:30:17 -0600

eagle95 wrote:
> 
> i'd say both sides need to read the history books.
>  the advances came out of military and university groups, regardless of
> nationall boundaries, which is the POINT...but for the record..don't forget
> the U.S. army in the 40's or 50's or 60's or.. (ala eniac, mainframes,
> arpanet, tcp/ip,...) or the AI lab at MIT( ala hacking, basic, bill
> gates,...), the san fransisco bay hardware hackers of the 70's( ala the
> "pc", ....) should i go on?
> 'nuff said.

How does what you just said in any way indicate that I need to refresh
my memory with textbooks?  You've only confirmed what I said - that the
majority of the innovations in the computing industry have come from the
US.  I didn't exclude the miltary from involvement.  They *are* US
citizens after all, and where do you think the US military *recruits*
from?

--

Paul Doherty
Systems Analyst/Programmer
http://www.dfw.net/~pdoherty
Home of PC DiskMaster

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From: "Wael Sedky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]*>
Subject: Re: Slow mouse under XFree
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 22:30:42 -0800

Under slackware I do the following:

cd /usr/X11R6/bin
XF86Setup

I can set anything related to X.
Hope this helps

> I've been trying to highen my mouse speed under TheNextLevel,
>(ie Red Hat 4.2 environment) but unfortunately I didn't succeed.
> All I found was "xset m .. .." to set acceleration and threshold
>for the mouse.
>
>



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From: Marten Feldtmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: StarOffice and Microsoft Office
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 09:13:53 GMT

Ian S. Nelson wrote:

> everything that I would want to do.  It looks a lot like MS Word and the other
> Office9x apps, almost painfully so.  To be completely honest though, I was a

 Yes, and this can be a good reason for the people to switch to Windows
- even on 
a Windows-based computer - at least if you've also Unix computers in
your company.

 On the other hand, Star Division is going the same way as Microsoft is
going - 
in my opinion - they think, that features over features is much more
worth 
than stability and perhaps more speed.

 And they close their application: no documentation about the document
format.

 Applixware on the other hand is very speedy - I used to use Applixware
over 
Exceed-X-Server running on a Linux pc, displaying on a window pc and the
stuff 
needs about two seconds to come up - that's fine.

 But Applixware is different - both in look and feel and in handling,
but most 
of my work can be done with Applixware ! Actually I've never used all
these 
nice features available in Word or StarOffice.

 I need a stable software with a good scripting language and it should
be a
more or less open system ... and in case of this, Applixware would be
the number
one in my personal taste - willing to learn a new script language,
willing to 
learn a new look & feel. The possibility to have Applix-Word run in a
batch 
and do some work without any gui is very nice and gives very much power
to the
user.

 For our customers I've to admit, that StarOffice would be the only
alternative
to WinWord - due to the same look & feel.


 Marten

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From: "Keith G. Murphy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: things I'd pay to have developed for Linux...
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 09:35:16 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thomas Zajic wrote:
> 
> Keith G. Murphy wrote:
> > Hmmm.  Too bad you can't (apparently) easily (at all?) get hold of the
> > volume label from Linux.
> 
> Ummm ... maybe I�m missing something obvious here, but - is there
> anything wrong with �e2label� or �tune2fs -L�? True, that still
> doesn�t solve the problem for any non-ext2fs partitions (except
> maybe FAT & its derivatives, but that shouldn�t be too hard).
> 
I think I'm missing something non-obvious.  I actually had looked
through my "Linux in a Nutshell" before posting my last message, and
found nothing.  It doesn't mention 'e2label', or the '-L' option of
tune2fs.  I'll have to look at those.

Oh, well, I did say "apparently".  At least I didn't make a categorical
statement and look like an ass!  >:-)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Murphy)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: rpm for 2.2.0?
Date: 27 Jan 1999 16:16:16 -0000

>"Jesus M. Salvo Jr." wrote:
>> 
>> Does anyone know if there is already an rpm for the 2.2.0 kernel source,
>> headers, etc.!?

Is there actually any advantage in using an RPM for kernel update?

-- 
Timothy Murphy  
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
tel: +353-1-2842366
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland

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From: Massimo Morin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Pleaseeeeeeeeeeee.... NFS problems
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 11:42:00 -0500

Hi, 
        I have RH5.0 e 5.1
I tried to install the kernel 2.2.0 for my NFS server.
I updated all the "minimal requirements" with the following:

ncpfs-2.2.0-2.i386.rpm
ipxutils-1.0-2.i386.rpm 
net-tools-1.49-1.i386.rpm
knfsd-981204-1.i386.rpm    
nfs-server-2.2beta40.tar.gz
pcmcia-cs-3.0.7.tar.gz
procinfo-15-1.i386.rpm
quota-1.55-10.i386.rpm
modutils-2.1.121-1.i386.rpm
mount-2.9g-1.i386.rpm
util-linux-2.9g-1.i386.rpm

I wanted to use the kernel nfs (KNFS) but I'm not able to have any clue
or any information for starting the procedure.(any hint). 
With a lot of immagination I get something, but this is the result:
[root@jupiter init.d]# ./knfs start
Starting KNFS services: exportfs: can't open /var/lib/nfs/rmtab for
reading
exportfs: could not open /var/lib/nfs/xtab for locking
exportfs: can't lock /var/lib/nfs/xtab for writing
exportfs: could not open /var/lib/nfs/xtab for locking
exportfs: can't lock /var/lib/nfs/xtab for writing
rpc.kstatd rpc.krquotad rpc.kmountd mountd: couldn't stat
/var/lib/nfs/xtab
rpc.knfsd nfssvc: Function not implemented

[root@jupiter init.d]# ./knfs status
rpc.kstatd (pid 7911) is running...
rpc.kmountd is stopped
rpc.knfsd is stopped
rpc.krquotad (pid 7920) is running...
[root@jupiter init.d]# 

So gived up for now, and I restored the old NFS (nfs-2.2beta37) but now
it seems it is exporting everything in Read Only.
I restored the previous configuration and again I'm not able to have it
Read & Write.
I tryed everything, the mount (from other machines) tell me it is
mounted rw but it doesn't allow to write anything.

Does anyone know what is going on?

Please, the NFS is driving me crazy!

Cheers
                        Massimo
-- 
Massimo Morin        | Scheduling Systems Inc.
Software Engineer    |
===================  | Three University Office Park, suite 100
13, Charnwood Rd     | 95 Sawyer Road
Somerville 02144 MA  | Waltham,
===================  | 02154=3471 Massachusetts
+1 (617) 623-4155    | +1 (781) 893-0390
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  | http://www.schedsys.com
======================================================================
If you design an idiot proof program, we'll start having better idiots!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Lee)
Subject: Re: Compressed 2.2 kernel about 35% larger than compressed 2.0.x?
Date: 28 Jan 1999 03:51:49 GMT

In article <78oaev$eb9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
>Gopal Harikumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: Size of /vmlinuz for 2.0.33 on my system: ~325 kB.
>
>: Size of /vmlinuz for 2.2.0 with same features: ~450 kB.
>
>Did you configure the kernels exactly the same way?

Ah...look at the version number of the kernal he's comparing 2.2.0 to.
There been a *lot* of changes to the kernal since 2.0.33 was released.



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From: "Y W Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Any X-server for Cyrix Media GX on board VGA ?
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 00:54:09 +0800

As title.
If exist, where can I download, or any generic X-server can be used ?

Thanks,

Y W Wong




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From: "David Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: No Telnet, No FTP, No Samba
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 11:49:04 -0500

Hello...

I've just setup a small home LAN with private IP addresses.

RH5.2 = 192.168.0.1
Win98 = 192.168.0.2

I *can* ping from each box to each box. I *can* get RH5.2 HTTP services from
Win 98 using http://192.168.0.1

My problem is, I can't telnet or FTP... in both operations it seems to find
the machine, but no login prompts are ever issued.

Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance...David



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From: Frank Hale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Compressed 2.2 kernel about 35% larger than compressed 2.0.x?
Date: 27 Jan 1999 16:49:33 GMT

Gopal Harikumar wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I downloaded, complied and installed v 2.2 yesterday. The compilation
> went without a hitch and the kernel booted up correctly. Everything is
> working perfectly. But I notice that the kernel size has increased by
> a considerable amount compared to 2.0.x, compiled with exactly the
> same features.
> 
> Size of /vmlinuz for 2.0.33 on my system: ~325 kB.
> 
> Size of /vmlinuz for 2.2.0 with same features: ~450 kB.
> 
> Is this normal? Thanks for any help.
> 
> Hari.

What do you expect? There was 2 years worth of work to get us to 2.2.0
and it would seem to me, that there is alot more code in the 2.2.0
kernel than in the 2.0.x ones.


-- 
From:      Frank Hale
Email:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
ICQ:       7205161                      
Website:   http://www.franksstuff.com/  

"Microsoft - How many times do you want to reboot today?"

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From: Mark McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Demand dialing for 2.0.36 kernel
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 04:05:24 GMT

Keith M Snellin wrote:
> 
> I'm trying to get  ppp demand dialing working under Redhat 5.2
> Everything works just fine except when I add "demand" to
> /etc/ppp/options I get message "Demand dialling is not supported by
> kernel driver version 2.2.0".  when ppp module loads.
> 
> has anyone got demand dial to work on RH 5.2 ?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Keith Snellin.

The kernel level ppp module is from an older version of ppp than the
pppd daemon that runs to actually make the connection, and the older
version doesn't support demand dialing.  If you install the src rpm for
pppd and the kernel sources, you can update the kernel level code so
that it will work.  If you haven't compiled a kernel before, it can be a
little tricky, so take your time.  Just read all of the instructions in
the ppp src package and ask a lot of questions.

-- 
Mark McCoy -- Proud to run Linux since February 1996
This message posted from behemoth, a 100% MS-free machine.

Asked how small software companies could compete on products that
Microsoft
wants to fold into Windows, [Microsoft chief operating officer Bob]
Herbold
told Bloomberg News they could either fight a losing battle, sell out to
Microsoft or a larger company or 'not go into business to begin with.' 
                -- Newsweek, March 1998

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From: "David Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: No FTP, No Telnet, No Samba
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 11:50:48 -0500

Hello...

I've just setup a small home LAN with private IP addresses.

RH5.2 = 192.168.0.1
Win98 = 192.168.0.2

I *can* ping from each box to each box. I *can* get RH5.2 HTTP services from
Win 98 using http://192.168.0.1

My problem is, I can't telnet or FTP... in both operations it seems to find
the machine, but no login prompts are ever issued.

Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance...David



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: 28 Jan 1999 03:54:14 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 27 Jan 1999 00:45:55 GMT, 
 Danekj, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 brought forth the following words...:

>I also put linux on my brand new Toshiba laptop computer almost immediately
>after I bought it.  I ran Windows 98 just long enough to make sure that the
>hardware was ok, then partitioned for linux and Windows. I almost never boot
>into Windows.

In July of 97 I bought a Power PC clone, ran MacOS 7.6 for about 3 weeks
while I figured out MkLinux, then I only booted up in MacOS for 2 0r
3 games. Frankly, I used MacOS more frequently when I was emulating it from
the Amiga :0
 Now My wife and I have identical (hw wise) Fujitsu laptops, I have a Linux
only system, no windows partition at all. ) and She has a dual boot 98/RH5.1
system. My computer at work has a WfW 3.11 partition, that is never used,
while I run RH5.1 to serve an internal website, email, and productivity.
 I didn't change from windows, I never had to drop my expectations low
enough to be satisfied with windows.

-- 
Jim Richardson
        Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
        Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Subject: Re: why are linux x apps so slow?
Date: 28 Jan 1999 03:54:17 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 27 Jan 1999 01:09:22 GMT, 
 Rod Smith, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 brought forth the following words...:

>[Posted and mailed]
>
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>       [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frederick Senn) writes:
>> linux counts as a fast and reliable os.
>> samba 2.0 claims to be the fastest smb package out there.
>> I don't doubt this a single instant.
>> 
>> yet, why are netscape or wordperfect behaving so slowly on my pentium
>> 200mhz compared to their windows versions?
>
>First, this is a subjective statement.  What's "unacceptably slow" to one
>person may be a barely-noticeable slowdown to another.  That said, on my
>system, WP and Netscape seem to perform at similar speeds under Linux and
>Windows, with the exception that WP slows down a lot more quickly when
>adding text boxes to a document under Linux than under Windows. 
>Possibilities for why you're seeing problems include:
>

I don't know about WP, but Netscape, at least 4.0.8 is statically
linked to motif, and that slows things way down. I have a fast machine,
(pII at 233, relatively fast anyway) and netscape is a) not really any
faster than on the 486/66 at work, and b) on the PII, no faster than
grail...
(all subjective of course.)

-- 
Jim Richardson
        Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
        Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: 
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: 28 Jan 1999 03:27:39 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(Bill Vermillion) writes:

>However - as to the admins, and whoever is responsible for keeping
>the system running - if you can't trust your computer sysadmins, 
>just who can you trust.   There has to be more than one (in case of
>accident, death, etc.) that knows all the ins and outs.
>
>Making tasks that are routine - but could be a concern such as new
>users, etc., a job that requires two people to complete it, lowers
>the chance of someone changing things that should not be changed.
>If someone wanted in and was going to have to pay to do this, then
>they would have to corrupt two operators to get this done.
>

Extend this to all tasks.  Take me, for example.  My employer laid me off last
year - I was the only person there who "knew all the ins and outs" of all
systems, because they were two cheap to fund an assistant.

I still have complete access to their internal network - and this is even after
I sent the replacement admin (who is a much lower skill level and cheaper) a long
listing of all back doors and how to plug them (or modify them to suit his own
needs)  Their problem is that their upper management is of the worst kind - 
they think that they are computer literate but really aren't.  Thus, they can't
stand anyone competent telling them anything that conflicts with their warped
view of reality.  As a result they refuse to hire anyone that they can't push
around (ie: anyone competent) and thus nobody there can plug the holes
even when they are given a laundry list of what they all are.

Ted

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From: Mark Ayzenshteyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Record software
Crossposted-To: linux.dev.sound
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 04:11:08 GMT

Hi all,

Can someone recommend sound recording software for linux. I have a
soundblaster 16 and I can use dd to record sound, but I want to go further
and use a sound recoding/editing package that I can use to ajust gain and
remove hiss etc. I have tried multi-track & slab, but the instructions are
unclear and I can't get recording to start. Can someone recommend some
other software or explain how to use slab(or multi-track?).

Thanks

Mark


-- 
==========================================================================
                Mark Ayzenshteyn CS Major at UCSD      
                        [EMAIL PROTECTED]
                http://www.bonzo.org/~marka              
                AOL Instant Messanger: marka767
            




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux on PC's not ready for Enterprise
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 03:09:05 GMT

On 27 Jan 1999 11:04:43 -0800, Sam E. Trenholme
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
>>So I see Linux trying to gain acceptance in the high end market but there
>>are so many limitations [with PC architechure]
>
>One way you may be able to get around these kinds of limitations is by
>using the Alpha architechure.  Linux runs quite nicely on the many Alpha
>machines, and the Alpha has the following advantages:
>
>* 64-bit architechure.  No RAM limitations.

*Different* RAM limitations.  Perhaps "less confining" RAM limitations.
Suggesting that there are *no* limits is "MarketingSpeak."

>* Faster performance at a competitive price

For the "high end market," the higher cost of other components makes the
higher cost of CPU less noticeable. 

>* Lower cost and better performance than Sparc-based systems

<chuckle> Actually, there are some SPARC systems that you probably
haven't noticed that are of lower cost than anything other than a
"Multia/UDB." Apparently digital cameras from Olympus, Sanyo, Epson, and
Agfa use SPARC CPUs.  </chuckle>

The primary reason for Alphas to be cheaper is that lots of motherboards
are being deployed into the Wintel marketplace to run NT.   If it were
not for that, Alpha would be no cheaper than SPARC.

>I am not sure about the ability of Alpha hardware to boot without a video
>card or have the bios-level stuff be available on a serial console.
>
>However, IMO, both of these features are fluff.  A cheap video card can be
>had for $10 to $30, and will allow a PC-based motherboard to boot.  It is
>no more difficult to cart around a PC monitor and keyboard than it is to
>cart around a serial terminal.

The feature of *requiring* video card is every bit as much "fluff."

If you want to have a real reliable server system, one of the things you
want to do is to take out unnecessary components that could break.
Video support is one such thing. 

-- 
"The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day
they start making vacuum cleaners" - Ernst Jan Plugge
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Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,alt.conspiracy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.x,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Seebach)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 04:42:14 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
David Taylor  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>That, is perhaps the best example of how much utter crap the FUD that
>microsoft put out actually is.  They inform people that it's hard to
>install these O/S's like Linux, but in my experience, RH 5.2 is just as
>easy as windows, as long as you understand the partitioning part.

Nothing so difficult.  I built a box, and it doesn't really matter what
(if anything) is on it, so I threw a Linux distribution on it to test it.
Put in floppy and CD.  Hit return.  Hit return a couple more times.
Answered easy questions.  Done.

-s
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From: Mariusz Kowalczyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: /etc/issue
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 17:40:06 +0100 (CET)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi Bob,
 Check out /etc/rc.d/rc.local file. Answer to your problem is there.
Happy Linuxing,
kovi

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From: "Keith G. Murphy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MGETTY
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 11:19:56 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I have mgetty on one of my systems handling ppp dialin connections. The lines
> seem to be very unstable. Users connect and the line disconnects or becomes
> stale but still alive within about 5 min. I have USR 56k modems. I have tried
> port speeds at all levels. and a couple of differnt inits for the modems.
> Also, the modems to seem to be reseting properly once the line is droped.  I
> would like advise from anyone having even the slightest clue as to what the
> problem may be.  An init string. A configuration change. Even different
> modems. I am just at my wits end and in desperate need of advise. Thank you.

I've been there.  I've had probably every manner of problem it's
possible to have with such.

Be sure to look at /var/log/messages and /var/log/mgetty.ttSx.  Increase
the level of logging on both mgetty and pppd if need be.  Let's see the
logs when you've done that.

Those modems *can* work for this.  This isn't a dual-booting machine is
it?  I noticed that Win95 would screw the modem up, and I had to make
mgetty do a "ATZ" before it was usable again.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Steps in adding second hard drive to Redhat 5.0.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 17:04:00 GMT

I am about to add a second physical hard drive to a Pentium pro running
redhat 5.0.  After the hardware is physically installed, what are the steps
that must be taken to format the drive, make the file system (mkfs), change
current mount points(e.g., moving the /usr partition to the second drive; or
creating a /home mount point on the second drive).  Can I use cfdisk or fdisk
on the fly and then reboot after mkfs?  Once I move the mount points for file
systems to locations on new partions will the data in the old partitions be
moved upon reboot or must I manually move it?  When do I configure fstab? Many
questions, I'd appreciate any help. thanks
Jake

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