Linux-Misc Digest #876, Volume #24 Tue, 20 Jun 00 19:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: mind hours in development Linux vs. Windows (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: GNU/LINUX at city of Boston Public Library departments
(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=D8ystein?= Gyland)
Re: GNU/LINUX at city of Boston Public Library departments (Josh Brandt)
Re: GNU/LINUX at city of Boston Public Library departments (Paul D. Smith)
cron problem (gets zombie) (root)
Jbuilder 3.5 problem (NTK)
Re: Help - How to Compile Source? (Lori Holder-Webb)
Re: Danger in running fsck on a mounted filesystem (Dances With Crows)
Source code for TOP (Carl Swanson)
Re: GNU/LINUX at city of Boston Public Library departments ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Source code for TOP (Joseph Dale)
Re: Installing Linux from a ZIP drive? (lobotomy)
Re: mind hours in development Linux vs. Windows (Robie Basak)
Is this true ? Compaq iPaq with Linux !: (Amandio J.S. Bacalhau)
Re: PDF files (James Lee)
LILO SUSE 6.4 (Douglas Lithgow)
Re: mind hours in development Linux vs. Windows ("Casey")
Re: Is this true ? Compaq iPaq with Linux !: (Blake Patterson)
Re: mind hours in development Linux vs. Windows ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: 6.1 update rpms - where (Hal Burgiss)
Re: mind hours in development Linux vs. Windows (sauce)
Re: Toshiba 2180CDT Modem (John Todd)
Missing libbzip2.so.0... ("Ben Fortuna")
Re: mind hours in development Linux vs. Windows ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: mind hours in development Linux vs. Windows
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 16:13:15 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bill Unruh wrote:
>
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin
>Smith) writes:
> >What about d) The source code is available to all? Read the Cathedral
> >and the Bazaar by Eric Raymond:
>
> Although his contention is that all bugs are shallow in open source,
> this is less true than it should be. See the recent bug report on the
> PGP5.0(?) disasterous bug for automatically generated keys. For two
> years this open source program had a disasterous bug, and it was only
> discovered recently. Of course you could argue that the the only reason
> it was actually discovered at all was that it was open source, but 2
> years is a long time for a shallow bug to stay hidden.
Of course, if it was a Microsoft product, Redmond would be denying
the existance of the bug for another 3 years....
>
> Ie, to find the bugs, the code actually has to be read and studied. With
> something like linux, I suspect there are vast tacts of it which have
> only ever been studied by the original writer.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=D8ystein?= Gyland)
Crossposted-To: ne.internet.services
Subject: Re: GNU/LINUX at city of Boston Public Library departments
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 20:13:12 GMT
Den Tue, 20 Jun 2000 15:39:07 -0400, tastet David Gallardo :
>needs? Who will they call when they can't get their documents to print on
>their nifty new HP printer (that has only Windows drivers? HP? Sun???
The smartest thing for him to do is to actually check if the printer is
supported or not _before_ he / someone buys it. If he has problems he must
call someone with greater skills than him, no matter what oses he is
administrating.
--
�ystein Gyland
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Josh Brandt)
Crossposted-To: ne.internet.services
Subject: Re: GNU/LINUX at city of Boston Public Library departments
Date: 20 Jun 2000 20:17:13 GMT
In article <8iofs6$pee$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Adam Kippes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: Well, in that case the "practically impossible" is being done at
>: millions upon millions of installations worldwide every day. And that
>
>They're not doing it. They're all failing. Their installations are
>degrading with each change.
Yes, yes, and your penises are each fourteen inches long and growing
steadily. Please get this off of ne.internet.services.
Josh
--
I don't wanna ride the piggy.
J. Brandt / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul D. Smith)
Crossposted-To: ne.internet.services
Subject: Re: GNU/LINUX at city of Boston Public Library departments
Date: 20 Jun 2000 16:24:59 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
%% David Gallardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
dg> Suppose, for example, that your business-minded friend (not a
dg> technical type), who lives in Omaha, Nebraska wants a
dg> recommendation for a small computer network for a small business
dg> office of 8 people. Could you honestly & responsibly--again,
dg> assuming they couldn't rely on you for help or support--recommend
dg> Linux and (presumably) StarOffice for all their office needs? Who
dg> will they call when they can't get their documents to print on
dg> their nifty new HP printer (that has only Windows drivers? HP?
dg> Sun???
I don't have a comment on whether or not I'd recommend Linux over
Windows, since I expect it would depend greatly on the details of the
situation.
I would like point out, though, that recommending Linux is not nearly as
outrageous as you imply.
First, you could quite easily go out and buy systems pre-loaded with
Linux now (just like you would normally buy systems pre-loaded with
Windows, not install it yourself!) That means that all the hardware you
get works fine, no issues with drivers, video cards, etc., the system is
certified to be working, etc. In other words, it can be every bit as
simple to set up an initial small office using Linux as with Windows:
just buy it all pre-installed, just like Windows.
As for the "nifty new HP printer", yes, I agree that because Linux
drivers are not as ubiquitous you need a bit more "due diligence" when
buying new hardware. However, with few exceptions I think there is
_some_ hardware with decent Linux support available in every category.
So yes, you might not be able to run out and buy a new printer without a
second thought--but you _can_ buy one that will work well for you.
Actually, the more expensive the printer the fewer problems you'll
likely have, since it'll have native postscript support, network
interfaces, etc.
And, of course, if you really have _NO_ computer-literate person around
you could purchase a support contract from someone like RedHat or
Linuxcare, just like you would from Microsoft.
Looking at the distros coming out now and where they're going, I really
don't think it'll be all that long before Linux is quite viable.
Or, put another way, I think Linux will "be there" as a non-tech user
desktop platform long before it loses its reputation as a hard-to-use
hacker's system.
--
===============================================================================
Paul D. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Network Management Development
"Please remain calm...I may be mad, but I am a professional." --Mad Scientist
===============================================================================
These are my opinions---Nortel Networks takes no responsibility for them.
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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: cron problem (gets zombie)
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 22:50:03 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hi all,
i have a strange problem. i have installed a cron job to fetch every
five minutes all emails from my provider. but often the cronjob seems to
hang. i try to fetch the mails manually but the system says another cron
is runnigng.
anybody knows whats going wrong?
thanks for all help
Diana
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From: NTK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Jbuilder 3.5 problem
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 21:30:13 GMT
I d/l'ed JBuilder 3.5 and installed it in Gnome environment. At the end
of
the process, all the KDE desktop icons would appear on the screen
for the
reason I am guessing that it was meant for KDE as a default
environment.
Anyways, under KDE, there are two icons, 'jbuilder' and 'licence', the
first
one being the launcher of 'Jbuilder' itself and the latter being the
launcher where you enter the serial #. When I click on either, nothing
happens. In Gnome, when I tried to run 'jbuilder' from xterm, it says
"missing 'opentool and can start' or something to that effect and
again it
fails to launch it. I thought the opentool was an optional package.
Anybody tried JBuilder and had a similar result. What is the solution?
thanks alot.
--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/
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From: Lori Holder-Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help - How to Compile Source?
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 16:11:38 -0500
Larry wrote:
>
> I've downloaded a package that needs to be compiled but I've never compiled in Linux
>before. Can someone point me to a site that can help guide me through what I need to
>do?
>
> Thanks,
> Larry
Try this:
http://www.linuxnewbie.org/nhf/intel/compiling/softinstall.html
Very straightforward and easy to follow. They tell you about all the
stuff that the READMEs assume you already know (like, "you have to have
a C compiler on your system" and things of that nature).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Danger in running fsck on a mounted filesystem
Date: 20 Jun 2000 17:36:01 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 20 Jun 2000 15:05:12 -0400, D F
<<8iof8m$ct2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>Yes, the machine shuts down correctly and all seems to be
>functioning normally. Come to think of it, I think that
>error msg comes up while the root partition IS ro. I think
>it's after I say 'no' that it says the thing about
>'remounting root rw.'
>I'll go over to her place tonight to check it out. If it's
>while the root partition is mounted ro, then, you'd suggest
>that it's safe to fsck it?
More than likely. From your description, it seems as though the root
filesystem wasn't properly umounted somewhere along the line, resulting in
the superblock being marked "dirty" even though no filesystem damage
occurred. (If any had, you would probably have seen very bad things
happening.) Let fsck do its thing and flag the filesystem as clean; the
message shouldn't pop up and bother you again unless the power fails or
the disk gets hit with a hammer....
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows /\ "Man could not stare too long at the face
\----[this space for rent]-----/ \ of the Computer or her children and still
\There is no Darkness in Eternity \ remain as Man." --David Zindell "So did
But only Light too dim for us to see\ they become Gods, or Usenetters?" --/me
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From: Carl Swanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.solaris,comp.os.linux,comp.unix.aix
Subject: Source code for TOP
Date: 20 Jun 2000 21:36:24 GMT
Does anyone know where I can get the source code for
the unix program "top"? I know linux has it as source code
available, but where and under what tree?
Also, what about the solaris, aix, and hp platforms?
Will the linux code compile on those platforms?
Thanks,
Carl
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: ne.internet.services
Subject: Re: GNU/LINUX at city of Boston Public Library departments
Date: 20 Jun 2000 21:30:31 GMT
David Gallardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Suppose, for example, that your business-minded friend (not a technical type),
: who lives in Omaha, Nebraska wants a recommendation for a small computer
: network for a small business office of 8 people. Could you honestly &
: responsibly--again, assuming they couldn't rely on you for help or
: support--recommend Linux and (presumably) StarOffice for all their office
: needs? Who will they call when they can't get their documents to print on
I personally have no idea what "office needs" are. The secretaries at
my old institution used to write all their letters in latex, using vi
(the admin used to take it away every so often, and they used to ask me
for a copy again). If you mean "dimwits who can't screw in a
lightbulb", please say so.
Peter
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From: Joseph Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.solaris,comp.os.linux,comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: Source code for TOP
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 21:57:50 GMT
Carl Swanson wrote:
>
> Does anyone know where I can get the source code for
> the unix program "top"? I know linux has it as source code
> available, but where and under what tree?
>
> Also, what about the solaris, aix, and hp platforms?
> Will the linux code compile on those platforms?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Carl
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.groupsys.com/topinfo/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (lobotomy)
Subject: Re: Installing Linux from a ZIP drive?
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 22:09:08 GMT
I don't know about RedHat, but it is definately possible to install
linux from a zip drive. You might need to create your own install
disk using a working linux system, because you would need to boot
using a kernel with the ppa driver (or have access to the module),
which redhat doesn't have, and then you would need to manually mount
the zip disk before running the setup program.
It is very easy with slackware, however. There is a pre-made bootdisk
image with the ppa driver, so all you have to do is copy the packages
you want to install to the zip disk, boot using that disk, mount the
zip disk, use setup and then select the 'install from a pre-mounted
directory' option (with the directory being wherever you mounted the
zip disk to, probably /mnt).
On Mon, 19 Jun 2000 17:57:28 -0700, andrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Greetings!
>
>I have an old 486, it doesn't have a CD-ROM or a network card. I have
>RedHat 5.1 on CD and a parallel port ZIP drive. Can I install linux
>from the ZIP drive? If so, how?
>
>Thanks,
>Andrey.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robie Basak)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: mind hours in development Linux vs. Windows
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 20 Jun 2000 22:16:18 GMT
On Tue, 20 Jun 2000 00:01:27 GMT, Doc Shipley said:
>Oliver Baker wrote:
>> Would anyone care to compare--either quantitatively or
>> qualitatively--the number of mind hours that have gone into developing
>> Linux as an OS verus what has gone into developing Windows as an OS?
>>
>
>Totally unworkable comparison. MS products' development is directed at
>and dictated by commercial goals. Linux development, while building on a
>base of commercial design (Websearch: UNIX), has been directed almost
>exclusively toward functionality. Before anybody jumps, I *do* include
>games, UI, and user comfort as components of functionality. You're
>comparing an AutoCAD blueprint to a commercial webpage.
>
>> I'm writing a magazine article for a trade magazine and don't know much
>> about this stuff. I've heard people call Linux more reliable than
>> Windows. If true, it seems to me that this could be because
>> a) Linux is better designed
>
>See above.
>
>> b)it attempts to do less,
>
>Linux not only attempts to do more, it DOES more. Anecdote:
> When I started my current job running an NT/Win98 subnet, I was
>woefully ignorant with NT Server. I wanted to set up the telnet daemon
>on my server, but could not find the configuration dialog. Nor was
>telnet service mentioned in any Help file. Finally, in my NT Server
>Resource Kit, I find that "NT Server does not ship with a telnet
>service. For those who wish to provide this function, there are many
>freeware and shareware telnet servers available on the Internet."
> Excuse me. NT Server was shipping at ~$800 for a 5-seat license. And MS
>tells me to download shareware to provide a BASIC service.
I had exactly the same problem when I needed a tftp server; and I
found a "knowledge" base article which basically told me to buy a
commercial implementation or upgrade to 2000. Upgrade to Windows 2000
for a tftp server?
Also, would someone please tell me where the equivalents of cron and
at are in NT? Or do I have to upgrade to 2000 as well?
>> c) more people have invested time in making it work and/or
>> c)smarter people (and, hey, let's say better looking while we're at
>> it) have invested time in making it work
>
>Linux = Time Invested In "Making It Work" Microsoft = Time Invested
>In Selling Product
And they'll happily ship the product before it's ready, even if there
are known bugs. OTOH, Linux kernels and software declared 'unstable'
is often more stable than software Microsoft imply is complete, by
selling it.
>[...]
Robie.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Amandio J.S. Bacalhau)
Crossposted-To: microsoft.public.windowsce,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.psion.misc
Subject: Is this true ? Compaq iPaq with Linux !:
Date: 20 Jun 2000 22:06:05 GMT
http://news.tucows.com/pdanews/ce/pdace06202000.html
Now i know why they put the OS in FlashROM :-)
Its not only for CE OS updates...its also to replace CE completly
if the user wants it...how about also EPOC ?
AJSB
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From: James Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PDF files
Date: 20 Jun 2000 22:19:57 GMT
Golan Derazon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> With which application can I read & edit .PDF files ?
acroread, gv, xpdf, etc.
To create, use ps2pdf, pdflatex, pdftex, dvipdfm (the last three
from tex/latex). Not sure about others though.
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From: Douglas Lithgow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LILO SUSE 6.4
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 10:48:32 +0100
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From: "Casey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: mind hours in development Linux vs. Windows
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 17:22:17 -0500
Hey oliver. One of the things you can look at between the 2 systems Windows
NT/2000 and linux.
NT/2000 PRO's
-Easy to use and install.
-Used far and wide.
-Good software and hardware base.
-Eye Candy value(my friend stated that his boss made
them move to win nt a few years back because of the way it
looked not worked.)
NT/2000 CON's
-Not well liked by hackers. (They see this as the man to be
overthrown this is why you have more problems with hackers
virus's and such
-Not as stable as others (linux,beos,free bsd, novel)
-In a year or two you will be facing another expensive upgrade
or be behind in the os war.
Linux PRO's
-Very cheap free to about 1/3 to 1/2 of what nt or novel charge
-Runs well on low end system (486 web server)
-Once set up properly will run well (reports of systems running
uninterupted for 300 + days.
-At one point there was a rumor that micro$oft ran its hotmail
servers on linux boxes cause NT couldn't handle the load.
-Gaining momentum constant updates with little or no cost.
Linux CON's
-Not alot shown improvements on high end systems (from
comparisons between linux and NT)
-Takes alot of work to get a system setup properly
-Lack of Talented people to admin Linux
-Cost of Talented people to admin Linux
-Not a real strong hardware and software powerbase for linux.
Casey
Good luck with the article.
"Oliver Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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From: Blake Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: microsoft.public.windowsce,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.psion.misc
Subject: Re: Is this true ? Compaq iPaq with Linux !:
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 22:25:35 GMT
It's true:
http://www.ipaqlinux.com
bp
"Amandio J.S. Bacalhau" wrote:
>
> http://news.tucows.com/pdanews/ce/pdace06202000.html
>
> Now i know why they put the OS in FlashROM :-)
> Its not only for CE OS updates...its also to replace CE completly
> if the user wants it...how about also EPOC ?
>
> AJSB
--
"Heisenberg may have slept here."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: mind hours in development Linux vs. Windows
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: 20 Jun 2000 15:27:51 PST
In comp.os.linux.misc Robie Basak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Also, would someone please tell me where the equivalents of cron and
> at are in NT? Or do I have to upgrade to 2000 as well?
There is something called 'winat' that comes with NT 4.0.
---
Neil
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: 6.1 update rpms - where
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 22:41:59 GMT
On 20 Jun 2000 17:52:28 GMT, Christoph Kukulies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I want to upgrade my RH 6.1 system such that I get *all* security and
>bug fixes installed up to date. What is the best way to do this?
>
>Can I pull the rpms from somewhere with one big transfer?
ftp://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/updates/6.1/i386/
ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/updates/6.1/i386/ (mirror)
You probably don't need every package here. I would check it out first,
as some are sizeable.
--
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: mind hours in development Linux vs. Windows
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
From: sauce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 18:37:56 -0400
"Casey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey oliver. One of the things you can look at between the 2 systems Wi=
ndows
> NT/2000 and linux.
> NT/2000 PRO's
> -Easy to use and install.
> -Used far and wide.
> -Good software and hardware base.
> -Eye Candy value(my friend stated that his boss made
> them move to win nt a few years back because of the way it
> looked not worked.)
> NT/2000 CON's
> -Not well liked by hackers. (They see this as the man to be
> overthrown this is why you have more problems with hackers
> virus's and such
> -Not as stable as others (linux,beos,free bsd, novel)
> -In a year or two you will be facing another expensive upgrade
> or be behind in the os war.
>=20
> Linux PRO's
> -Very cheap free to about 1/3 to 1/2 of what nt or novel charge
> -Runs well on low end system (486 web server)
> -Once set up properly will run well (reports of systems running
> uninterupted for 300 + days.
> -At one point there was a rumor that micro$oft ran its hotmail
> servers on linux boxes cause NT couldn't handle the load.
> -Gaining momentum constant updates with little or no cost.
>=20
> Linux CON's
> -Not alot shown improvements on high end systems (from
> comparisons between linux and NT)
> -Takes alot of work to get a system setup properly
> -Lack of Talented people to admin Linux
> -Cost of Talented people to admin Linux
> -Not a real strong hardware and software powerbase for linux.
>=20
>=20
> Casey
>=20
> Good luck with the article.
> "Oliver Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > zerr wrote:
> > >
> > > You sound and even said that you know about nothing about linux. H=
ow
> > do
> > > you suspect to write a good article if you know nothing about the
> > > subject matter. If I were you I would read a thick book on linux in=
stall
> > > it, play around with it for 3 months then you might be able to writ=
e a
> > > well informed article about it. But until you know your subject mat=
ter
> > > the article will basically suck.
> >
> >
> > Maybe I should have said what this article is about. Anyway it's not
> > going to be very technical. It's more to do with an instance of
> > corporate culture being "infiltrated" by Linux culture. I just happen=
to
> > be curious and technically minded and don't mind asking stupid
> > questions.
> >
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> > Oliver Baker
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with regard to hotmail; I believe at one point they were using solaris, o=
r
possibly BSD. I dont recall linux, but I will share an acedote of my own.=
I use
linux, I work with NT (4.0/95/98/2000), and because of work experience, I=
use
linux and work the latter. I have an NT partition for games, (Some claim =
98 is
better, I say bullshit, half life works better for me on nt 4 with 64mb t=
han on
another pc with 96MB and 98), but other than that it is unreliable, I wil=
l use
my simple zip drive as an example, loads with linux every time, no muss, =
no
fuss, with NT , every 6th or 7th boot, splat and BSOD..... and other quir=
ks
show up with regularity, sorry but reliability backs up linux any day....
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From: John Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Toshiba 2180CDT Modem
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 14:45:33 -0700
Possibly there is an IRQ conflict, which Win. resolves by resetting
the modem IRQ. You can set the IRQ in Linux with setserial (read man setserial);
put it in /etc/rc.d/rc.local to have it run at startup.
On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, robert vasquez wrote:
>The built-in 56K modem worked great under minicom, I dialed in to a BBS and
>everything was fine. I rebooted, went to Windows for a while, then I went
>back to Mandrake 7.1 to try out ppp. When I tried to dial in, the modem was
>'busy' and minicom wouldn't work either! It's been like that ever since,
>working in Windows but not working under Linux...Ideas?
>
>--
>Posted via CNET Help.com
>http://www.help.com/
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From: "Ben Fortuna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Missing libbzip2.so.0...
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 00:01:23 +0100
I have just tried installing the latest gnome rpms on a RedHat 6.0
derivative (Definite Linux 7.0), yet I can't install the gnome-core package
due to a dependency on libbzip2.so.0. I got the library from the bzip2
homepage, yet it links to libbzip2.so.1.0. I also tried creating a soft link
(libbzip2.so.0 -> libbzip2.so.1.0) but this doesn't work. Does anyone know
how to solve this problem??
cheers,
...ben
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: mind hours in development Linux vs. Windows
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: 20 Jun 2000 16:04:02 PST
In comp.os.linux.misc Oliver Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Maybe I should have said what this article is about. Anyway it's not
> going to be very technical. It's more to do with an instance of
> corporate culture being "infiltrated" by Linux culture. I just happen to
> be curious and technically minded and don't mind asking stupid
> questions.
Infiltrate has a connotation of 'subvert from within'. I guess that Linux
has the reputation of infiltrating because it is open source and somehow seems
less "official" than Microsoft products. But remember that Unix and its variants
have been corporate workhorses for decades now.
I think you have a story in the sense that Linux is making inroads in corporations
and Linux does have a certain culture associated with it -- but don't portray it
as these wild-eyed Linux advocates spreading Linux around corporations. It is often
the best tool for the job, and done for the right reasons.
--
Neil
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