Linux-Misc Digest #876, Volume #27 Wed, 16 May 01 15:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: load average (SammyTheSnake)
Re: Reloading a module (SammyTheSnake)
non-destructive repartitioning? (erik s fredricks)
Re: An alternative for gcc and g++ (Floyd Davidson)
Re: Netscape in black and white (fred smith)
Re: MIDI in Netscape??? (fred smith)
Re: An alternative for gcc and g++ (Bill Unruh)
Re: An alternative for gcc and g++ (Stephen Rank)
Re: Linux X goes away??? ("Jim Blish")
How to log all connections? (wroot)
Security Testing ("Michael Pye")
Re: open ports ("Garry Knight")
Icecast server stats (Kerry Cox)
Re: Star Office on Linux discussion? (Niklas Gidion)
Re: FTP question (Lou Lipnickey)
Annoying Clock Problem (Matthew Lybanon)
Frustrated ("Christopher R. Carlen")
Re: non-destructive repartitioning? ("Eric en Jolanda")
Re: harddisk full - help!! ("Eric en Jolanda")
Re: Annoying Clock Problem (Markku Kolkka)
Re: Reloading a module (bert buchholz)
Re: harddisk full - help!! ("Bas Nedermeijer")
Re: My Linux Experience ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Got Linux? Get it free, May 20th! (William Kendrick)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (SammyTheSnake)
Subject: Re: load average
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 16:30:36 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Hasler wrote:
>SammyTheSnake writes:
>> Conclusion? I figure I was lower on memory than you, IIRC I only had 64MB
>> at the time,...
>
>I've got 384M, which is just barely enough to get away with 'make -j'-ing
>a 2.2 kernel. You must have had almost all of your 200 or so make
>processes in swap.
yep, hense the thrashing :)
>> Another thing is that it wasn't the fastest of CPUs either, which may
>> have made the situation worse (k6-266 I think)...
>
>I've got two PIII-500's. No longer a particularly hot machine, but still
>fast. The other thing that makes a high loadaverage tolerable on this box
>is the 10k SCSI drive.
UDMA33 in my case, not the bees knees, really...
Cheers & God bless
SammyTheSnake(I'll try it on my 2xCelery@500 some time)
--
Sam.Penny @ Ntlworld.com | Looking for a computer related
Linux, Hardware & Juggling specialist :-) | job, if you can help, e-mail me :)
Wheels: bike, 'ickle bike, and unicycle. | /o \/ Working on 5 ball 1/2 shower
Boxen: K6-266@300, dual Celery500 & Nx486 | \__/\ & some 6 / 7 ball exercises
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (SammyTheSnake)
Subject: Re: Reloading a module
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 16:33:00 +0100
In article <9dseql$jnp6h$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, bert buchholz wrote:
>Hello,
>
>is there the possibility of reloading a kernel-module? The problem I have
>is as follows:
>
>I'm loading some SCSI-modules (scsi_mod, fdomain, sd_mod) for my
>SCSI-adapter/drives when booting Linux, so that I can mount my
>SCSI-harddrive. But sometimes, I want to attach another SCSI-drive to the
>adapter while running. Of course, I cannot unload the module as long as the
>first drive is busy, so I would have to
>
>1. wait, until the drive (the module) stops being busy (stupid solution)
>2. restart the box (even more stupid)
IIRC there's been some discussion about hot-pluggable devices and suspend
features which necessitate reinitialisation of drivers, it may be a 2.4.late
issue, but I get the impression you might have to wait for linux 2.5 :(
Cheers & God bless
SammyTheSnake
--
Sam.Penny @ Ntlworld.com | Looking for a computer related
Linux, Hardware & Juggling specialist :-) | job, if you can help, e-mail me :)
Wheels: bike, 'ickle bike, and unicycle. | /o \/ Working on 5 ball 1/2 shower
Boxen: K6-266@300, dual Celery500 & Nx486 | \__/\ & some 6 / 7 ball exercises
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From: erik s fredricks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.suse
Subject: non-destructive repartitioning?
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 11:22:53 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Okay, I'm looking to repartition my hard drive. I'm currently running
Suse7.1 on a 30-Gb hard drive, partitioned into /boot, /, /usr, /home and
/opt. I have 22Gb still available, but it's in the /usr and /home
partitions, and I don't need that much.
What I'd like to do is allocate five gig or so to a DOS partition, but is
there any way to create partitions IN LINUX for windows?
I know, this is just the opposite from what most folks ask, and I'm
stumped.
thanks,
erik
--
a conclusion is the place where someone got tired of thinking.
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From: Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: An alternative for gcc and g++
Date: 16 May 2001 07:28:19 -0800
Atul Narang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am trying to instal software on my Linux (RH 7.0) box. The
>software, which has been tested on Linux, cannot use gcc and
>g++ compilers. What other compilers (free/commercial) are
>available for the Linux operating system? Does Sun, for
>instance, sell its compilers for the Linux platform?
If it has been tested on Linux, why can't it use the standard
Linux compiler, gcc?
For that matter, regardless of having been tested on Linux or
not, I would be *very* leary of anything that will not compile
with gcc.
--
Floyd L. Davidson <http://www.ptialaska.net/~floyd>
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: fred smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape in black and white
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 10:37:36 GMT
David Nowak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: On my Debian GNU/Linux 2.2, all icons in Netscape 4.75 are in black and
: white! What should I install to have coloured icons?
You must be running X in 24bpp mode. Some servers/video card combinations
have a problem (I don't know details) that causes this. See if you can
run instead in 16 or 32bpp mode.
Fred
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---- Fred Smith -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----------------------------
"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of
heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven."
============================== Matthew 7:21 (niv) =============================
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From: fred smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MIDI in Netscape???
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 10:39:50 GMT
William H. Pridgen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: RH 6.2, SB AWE 64 PnP Value (ISA)
: I would like to be able to play the MIDI files that go with electronic
: birthday cards and such. I installed Plugger 3.3 and TiMidiTy, but I
: get this error when I'm running Netscape and go to a site such as Blue
: Mountain Arts:
: playmidi: No playback device found.
it looks as if Netscrape is trying to use playmidi to do midi instead
of plugger. Check the netscape configs to see if it thinks it should
use playmidi or plugger, betcha it still thinks playmidi.
I use plugger/timidity and it works fine for me.
: Is there a module I need to load to play MIDI files? Do I need to use
: isapnp.conf? Do I need another sound card?
: Thanks in advance!
:
: --
: Bill Pridgen *** Sent with GNU/Linux
: --
: "Life is problem-solving and discovery." -- Karl Popper
: --
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: --
--
---- Fred Smith -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----------------------------
The eyes of the Lord are everywhere,
keeping watch on the wicked and the good.
============================= Proverbs 15:3 (niv) =============================
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: An alternative for gcc and g++
Date: 16 May 2001 16:26:40 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Atul Narang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
]Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
]I am trying to instal software on my Linux (RH 7.0) box. The software,
]which has been tested on Linux,
]cannot use gcc and g++ compilers. What other compilers (free/commercial)
?? What do you mean "Cannot use"? If it is written for a specific
compiler, ie using some specific compilers peculiarities, then you need
to get that specific compiler. Perhaps if you state your problem in more
detail more help will be forthcoming.
But yes commercial compilers are available for Linux. Unfortunately I do
not know them.
]are available for the Linux
]operating system? Does Sun, for instance, sell its compilers for the
]Linux platform?
PS PLEASE do not post with html in the post. Switch that off in your
browser.
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From: Stephen Rank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: An alternative for gcc and g++
Date: 16 May 2001 17:28:42 +0100
Atul Narang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I am trying to instal software on my Linux (RH 7.0) box. The
> software, which has been tested on Linux, cannot use gcc and g++
> compilers.
I find this difficult to believe. Perhaps it's a problem with a
specific version of gcc (not wishing to start the whole Redhat & gcc
2.96 debate again). What are symptoms are you getting? Specific
error messages are the most use. What package are you trying to install?
> What other compilers (free/commercial) are available for the Linux
> operating system? Does Sun, for instance, sell its compilers for the
> Linux platform?
Dunno. Sun don't, AFAIK, sell cc for Linux, but it's pretty much
the consensus that gcc is better than Sun's compiler anyway.
As you claim that this software has been ``tested on Linux'', you
should ask the person who tested it which compiler (including version
info) they used.
HTH,
Stephen
PS: Don't post MIME, it's not polite :)
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990030197
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From: "Jim Blish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.x,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Linux X goes away???
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 16:50:55 GMT
now do a [ctrl] + [alt] + f1 and look at the giant mess of configuration and
what does that say?
"JT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:LoxM6.253283$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "Andrew Purugganan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9dss64$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > JT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > [ Running RH7.0. I never can be assured if Linux is going to come up in
X.
> > [ Sometimes it does and somethings its just a blank black screen. When
it
> > [ doesn't I have to re-install the who OS over again. Running Matrox
> Millenium
> > [ G200 8mgs ram.
> >
> > at LILO you may want to enter linux 3 to put you always in console mode
> > (plain text terminal). Once you've signed on as root, type
> >
> > startx
> >
> > and see what kind of messages appear. You may want to post them here,
> > plus the other messages for those instances when startx comes up
> correctly.
> >
> > Deal with graphical logins later, after you've sorted out this problem
> > --
> > jazz
> > Registered linux user no. 164098 +--+--+--+ Litestep user no. 386
> > Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
> > --- OUT THERE??
> >
>
> I have done what you spoke of above. I start up in terminal mode, then do
> startx and the screen clears, then nothing. Just a blank black screen!
>
> JT
>
>
>
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From: wroot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: How to log all connections?
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 12:47:10 -0400
Hi,
How to log all connections? Can I log all foreign connections to my machine
regardless of their nature (http/ping/telnet/etc) and protocol (TCP/UDP)?
Thanks
Wroot
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From: "Michael Pye" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Security Testing
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 17:52:00 +0100
I'm looking for some help in testing my web server and intranet (connected
to the web through a proxy, though not SUPPOSED to be accessible) security.
Identifying exposed IP addresses and associated open ports, along with
possible exploitation of these connections, holes in the firewall etc...
Can anyone help me with utilities, techniques etc likely to be used in a
hacker's attack and ways to probe for such weaknesses.
Thanks.
MP
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From: "Garry Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: open ports
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 02:09:24 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <9dqk90$up2$02$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Claus Atzenbeck"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Frank Ranner wrote on Dienstag, 15. Mai 2001 03:51:
>
>> Use one of the Internet based scanner web sites to scan you
>> from 'out there' to see if your ports are visible.
>
> Do you have the URL of such a service
http://www.sdesign.com/securitytest
http://www.dslreports.com/scan
http://scan.sygatetech.com/
http://www.grc.com
--
Garry Knight
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Kerry Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Icecast server stats
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 11:18:08 -0600
Looking for a small script that will parse through the icecast server
logs and generate some data on the number of streams sent out in any
given time. If anyone has any leads, please let me know.
I'm sure we could write something that would do it, but why re-invent
the wheel if something is already out there.
Thanks.
Kerry
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| System Administrator KSL __ (801) 575-7771 |
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Niklas Gidion)
Subject: Re: Star Office on Linux discussion?
Date: 16 May 2001 17:17:51 GMT
* Christopher R. Carlen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wed, 16 May 2001 07:57:56 -0700:
> So I am looking for some usenet, mailing list, or other forum to discuss
> using Star Office.
If you can read german,
de.comp.office-pakete.staroffice
is your friend.
Posting some englisch question there now and again should be okay also (IMHO).
Greets,
Niklas
--
"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea:
massive, difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a
source of mind-boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it."
(Gene Spafford,1992) -------- enjoy :) -------- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Lou Lipnickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FTP question
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 17:51:50 GMT
Thanks, just wanted to confirm that regular MS FTP wouldn't do it.
Lou
Lou Lipnickey wrote:
> I am trying to get started with Mandrake and I need to FTP all the
> file/directories. Is there a way with the Win98 "FTP" command to
> transfer all the child directories and their files? I am doing :
>
> bin
> prompt
> mget *
>
> Its just getting the files, not the directories. Thanks in advance
>
> Lou
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From: Matthew Lybanon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Annoying Clock Problem
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 13:05:38 -0500
Every time I reboot my system, the clock displays GMT. I have to reset
it to local time (logging in as root); then it's fine until I reboot
again. I think the system was even "smart" enough to know when Daylight
Saving Time began and make the adjustment (though my memory may be
faulty on this point).
Following some earlier advice, I modified my /usr/share/zoneinfo file to
the following (it was only a minor change from what was there before):
UTC=false
ZONE="US/Central"
ARC=false
But that didn't solve my problem, and I simply have no idea where else
to look.
Here's information on my system:
Linux Mandrake release 7.0 (Air)
OS release 2.2.14-15mdk
processor type i686
I normally run Gnome, though I don't think that has anything to do with
it.
I'd appreciate any suggestions.
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| Mapping, Charting, & Geodesy Branch | |
| Naval Research Laboratory | (228) 688-5576 |
| Stennis Space Center, MS 39529 | (228) 688-4853 (fax) |
| USA | |
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From: "Christopher R. Carlen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Frustrated
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 10:05:23 -0700
Hi:
I have used Linux for 6 years. I try very hard to avoid using M$ for
various reasons. I am posting to vent some frustration. Perhaps others
are trying hard to do their work on Linux, and are frustrated too.
Rather than saying something like, "I tried to use Linux, and it was too
hard, so Linux sucks." (I hear people post like this often, after
meager attempts to use Linux.) I am not taking that approach, because I
understand the obstacles Linux faces, and has made so much progress in
the face of. Considering those, it is really a far more remarkable
system than M$ junk. But for those who develop for Linux, please listen
to the users. Because ultimately it comes down to users. I have the
intention of continuing to use Linux, because I want to be free. I am
willing to pay for quality software.
It is painful to use Linux to do work, because of the limited
applications. I mean word processing, drawing, etc. Sometimes I have
to do this office-type work. Other times I have to do scientific and
engineering work. That can be painful too. What I mean is,
applications for Linux frequently make me very frustrated.
Often people say that the free apps are better than the commercial
ones. Well, the fact is, that for doing work outside of the idealistic
college environment where I suspect these sentiments are most often
held, it is very difficult to do work, I mean professional level work,
with Linux apps. But not impossible. I hope it continues to get
better.
The two apps I use that are of excellent quality:
Mathematica (try to name a free app that can do what MMA does. Just
try. No, I'm sorry, MuPad, Octave, etc. while very useful, don't even
come close. Despite it's tremendous power, it is a little tricky to get
MMA running sometimes on Linux, but the program itself is very mature.)
Eagle (this mid-range professional schematic capture and PCB layout
program is very good, and the only PCB program that at this point can be
considered for professional work. Thank goodness Cadsoft decided to
develop for Linux, or I would have to use Windoze 80% of the time,
instead of the 5% I use it now.
I had to pay for these programs. A lot of money too.
I used to use Word Perfect for Win 3.1. It could do what I wanted, but
it sucked real bad, crashing all the time, and stupid bugs. I paid a
student price for Word Perfect 7.? for Linux, which was terrible. I
mean, try to do complicated things like set precise margins in mailing
labels, and god help you. Forget it. Here is a case of commercial
software of really poor quality, but of course they eventually made it
free for personal use, and why not, because if anybody knew before hand
how bad it was, they'd never pay for it.
Applixware which I also paid for was very good, although limited in
power compared to WordPerfect. But relatively bug free, so I have no
complaints.
Now I am trying Star Office. I expected it to be a very stable, mature,
and capable system. It is very capable, if it would only work
reliably. I have tried to do a drawing, then copy/paste the drawing
objects to a mailing label. I can't print it. It outputs a lengthy
postscript file, but a printer or postscript viewer show only a blank
page.
Disappointment. I wonder if M$ Office could do what I want? I would
try it except that I tried once to make labels in Word, and it was so
complicated I gave up. It seemed that I couldn't just get a page of
blank labels to appear, so I could just type manually. It wanted a
database or something to merge with. Ugh. The user interface in
Windoze in generable is so intolerably restrictive and disobedient that
this is a main reason I use Linux. Star Office allows me to manually
fill in a page of labels, but I can't print them. I wish I had time to
modify the couple million lines of source code, but I have to get these
labels done. I will find a workaround.
Perhaps this is just a necessary consequence of the incredible
complexity of these applications, that they will be filled with bugs.
It's probably the same if I use M$ Office or Star Office, or whatever.
So I'm not criticizing anyone's effort, just frustrated.
I don't believe computing appliances are the future. The whole
advantage of PCs is application integration. But I understand it is
incredibly complex.
--
_______________________
Christopher R. Carlen
Sr. Laser/Optical Tech.
Sandia National Labs
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From: "Eric en Jolanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.suse
Subject: Re: non-destructive repartitioning?
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 20:14:24 +0200
> Okay, I'm looking to repartition my hard drive. I'm currently
running
> Suse7.1 on a 30-Gb hard drive, partitioned into /boot, /, /usr, /home and
> /opt. I have 22Gb still available, but it's in the /usr and /home
> partitions, and I don't need that much.
Use either PartitionMagic or GNU's parted to correct this.
> What I'd like to do is allocate five gig or so to a DOS partition,
but is
> there any way to create partitions IN LINUX for windows?
Sure. fdisk can create the partitions, mkdosfs will format them.
Don't forget to reboot after you changed th epartitiontable, if fdisk tells
you
to do so.
Eric
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From: "Eric en Jolanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: harddisk full - help!!
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 20:17:23 +0200
> My harddisk is full (du shows 100% use) and removing even BIG files
> (like some 50 Mb) doesn't change a thing.
No way.
If you remove it, you'll get free space.
Did you perhaps alias rm?
try running "sync" after rm'ing those files.
> Anyone has a clue what I can do? I tried fsck, it doesn't find any
> error.
There's not much choice.
It's either full ,and you remove something, so you get space, or
it will stay full. I will not believe that removing files won't free up
space.
Eric
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From: Markku Kolkka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Annoying Clock Problem
Date: 16 May 2001 21:18:19 +0300
Matthew Lybanon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Every time I reboot my system, the clock displays GMT. I have to reset
> it to local time (logging in as root); then it's fine until I reboot
> again.
Did you set the _hardware clock_ to the correct local time, or just
the kernel clock? Use the hwclock command to set the hardware clock.
--
Markku Kolkka
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: bert buchholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Reloading a module
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 20:42:41 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SammyTheSnake wrote:
>
> IIRC there's been some discussion about hot-pluggable devices and suspend
> features which necessitate reinitialisation of drivers, it may be a
> 2.4.late issue, but I get the impression you might have to wait for linux
> 2.5 :(
>
Well, maybe so, I also read something about 2.5 and hot-pluggable, but
anyway, the way "Dances With Crows" (all Indians here, or what ;) advised
me was quite successful, not to say absolutely successful. I suppose, that
kernel 2.5 and later may have some advanced, auto-detecting of
hot-plugging. Hope so...
Bert
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From: "Bas Nedermeijer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: harddisk full - help!!
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 20:40:02 +0200
"Moritz von Heimendahl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> My harddisk is full (du shows 100% use) and removing even BIG files
> (like some 50 Mb) doesn't change a thing.
>
> Anyone has a clue what I can do? I tried fsck, it doesn't find any
> error.
Remove some more files. Check 'man mke2fs' (the -m option) to see why
> Desperately
>
> Moritz
- Bas Nedermeijer
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: My Linux Experience
Date: 16 May 2001 12:01:09 -0700
"SilentNight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "Jim Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9dpc8a$ad9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Having two-thirds of an old PC and realising that I could experiment with
> > Linux for free, I recently set out to see what I could achieve with it. I
> > chose to try Redhat 7.0 and bought a couple of hefty books to help me
> along.
> > Here is what I achieved and failed at:
...<snip>...
> > I don't write to seek help on my specific difficulties but to ask this
> > general question: are my experiences common? If they are then I would
> > conclude that Linux is far too difficult to use to gain wide-spread
> > acceptance outside professional server roles at its current stage of
> > development. If not then perhaps I have faulty hardware, a dodgy
> > distribution or a peculiar clouding of the mind where Linux is concerned.
> >
> > I'd be grateful to hear other people's comments.
> >
> >
>
> I have the same experience in last few months. I read a lot before really
> installing
...<snip>...
Since I'm just going through some minor, but baffling experiences, let
me add my two cents. I just posted (I think), an article asking for
help with PPP. I used emacs Gnus. I wasn't 'in' a particular
newsgroup at the time as I'd caught up on all of them, so I just tried
to use send. I don't see that article out anywhere yet, though it is
in the drafts folder, and message sent to alt.test.test that way went
out right away. I have always found man pages for newsreaders to be
among the more obscure documentation, and the gnus manual seems to
refer to a completely different newsreader than the one I use which
calls itself gnus. Fortunately, I know enough from using other
readers and from using the drop down menus, that I use it anyway
because I like it.
The problem I was trying to post about was using PPP. I have been using
a script that I hacked together years ago for making PPP connections to
ISP providers. I started with sirius.com which got bought up by a company
which didn't support linux so even though it 'worked' I had to resolve
any problems myself, and finally it no longer worked so I dropped them.
In parallel I used rahul.net and that still works but recently I built
up yet another computer and it's very similar to ragwind here, but I can't
get a PPP connection to work. I use the same external modem, same cable,
setserial reports identical info on the tty ports, the script is the same,
the OS was installed from the same distribution. It starts out doing the
handshake but after the password is sent I get a SIGHUP. I wonder,
suppose I didn't already have something working. What would I do? How
would I solve this as I can't seem to solve it when I have a working
system right next to it.
I came to linux from a unix background. I first installed linux back
in 1994 onto a laptop from a slackware distribution on 50 floppies.
I would say that, in all my years of experience and upgrades, connectivity
to the outside world has always been the most mysterious, 'black-art' like
aspect of my experience.
Some of these problems are not unique to linux. They actually have to
do with the way ISPs fine tune their stuff to the dominant software
and provide advice and help specific to users of the dominant
software.
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From: William Kendrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Got Linux? Get it free, May 20th!
Crossposted-To: ucd.general,ucd.life,ucd.cs.club,sac.announce,sac.general
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 19:07:42 GMT
The Linux Users' Group of Davis and the UC Davis Computer Club
will be holding another free "Linux Installfest" workshop.
When:
Sunday, May 20th
10:00am - 6:00pm
Where:
Engineering Unit II
Room 1131
1228 Bainer Hall Drive
UC Davis
Davis, California
Just bring your PC to us, and we'll help you install and configure the
Linux operating system on it... for FREE!
If you wish to bring in your PC, you must RSVP beforehand to reserve a space.
The RSVP form, and lots of useful information about Linux and Installfests,
are accessible on the web at:
http://www.lugod.org/linux/
LUGOD is a non-profit organization dedicated to the
Linux Operating System, and which meets twice a month in Davis, CA.
Please visit our website for details:
http://www.lugod.org/
-bill!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.lugod.org/
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